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Turin
Caldari Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.24 17:37:00 -
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Lets be fair here though. The pilot died because he was an idiot, not because of some breakthru in tactics X13 used or anything. Had this guy been on the ball, he would still have his mothership. What an idiot.
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ZaKma
Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.24 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: gordon cain
Originally by: WildSide well...
he should had just 1 rep setup(he had 2) 2 cap relay,maybe even 3. +cap rechargers+ccc t2+t1
Wouldnt have mattered at all.
Battle report will follow once we get it done.
Gordon
You know, I give you props for killing him. However if he was cap fit it would have mattered. Do some number crunching and you'll see.
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Ventosus
x13
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Posted - 2007.09.24 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: ZaKma You know, I give you props for killing him. However if he was cap fit it would have mattered. Do some number crunching and you'll see.
Incorrect fit or rigs, either way he died.
at least he died fighting, killed som of ours, didnt log, and no smack in local. and he kept fighting to the very last minute, instead some of thoose d-synced mom kills. Maybe the poor fellow decided to stick and fight our limited numbers.
............... I will win Eve
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Lord Dynastron
Mystical Knights Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.09.24 18:12:00 -
[274]
Nice!!
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.24 18:13:00 -
[275]
Pleaaase give us the fraps so i can stop refreshing this page and work a bit here for a change!
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Macmuelli
Gallente Gallente Mercantile Exchange Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.09.24 18:13:00 -
[276]
gratz for a " nonpossible called kill"
"Ein jeder ernte Ruhm auf seine Weise.....Gunnar von Hlidarendi "
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ZaKma
Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.24 18:14:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Ventosus
Originally by: ZaKma You know, I give you props for killing him. However if he was cap fit it would have mattered. Do some number crunching and you'll see.
Incorrect fit or rigs, either way he died.
at least he died fighting, killed som of ours, didnt log, and no smack in local. and he kept fighting to the very last minute, instead some of thoose d-synced mom kills. Maybe the poor fellow decided to stick and fight our limited numbers.
I understand that, and like I said.. respect for a plan well executed. However making blank statements that regardless of what he had fit, it wouldn't have mattered is.. well.. I'll let you use your imagination. 
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Jangizal
Caldari NYIT Gangstaz SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.24 18:21:00 -
[278]
Well done.
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Brunswick2
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.24 18:25:00 -
[279]
<3 zakma
Tbh, this doesn't prove that there's nothing wrong with motherships in low sec, all it proves is that Ender was incompetent and should've never had a ms.
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MonkSEALPup
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.09.24 18:26:00 -
[280]
Originally by: ZaKma
I understand that, and like I said.. respect for a plan well executed. However making blank statements that regardless of what he had fit, it wouldn't have mattered is.. well.. I'll let you use your imagination. 
I agree with you, but I hope your playful banter with X13 goes on a little furhter. The more I see your sig, the better. It makes me all tingley in places I didn't know existed. Best sig on the forums, bar none.
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Ventosus
x13
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Posted - 2007.09.24 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: ZaKma However making blank statements that regardless of what he had fit, it wouldn't have mattered is.. well.. I'll let you use your imagination. 
Zakma, You are asuming stuff. Maybe the universe contains information than apparent to the eye. ;) lets hold this here. to many if and if's.
............... I will win Eve
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ZaKma
Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.24 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ventosus
Originally by: ZaKma However making blank statements that regardless of what he had fit, it wouldn't have mattered is.. well.. I'll let you use your imagination. 
Zakma, You are asuming stuff. Maybe the universe contains information than apparent to the eye. ;) lets hold this here. to many if and if's.
Your corp mate is also asuming that you would've killed him regardless what his fitting were. My point being, your plan clearly was better than him and his ship. However it might not have worked on a different setup ship or a different pilot. That's all I'm saying. EVE is full of if's. 
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Deva Blackfire
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.24 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Araqnid
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
But if he didnt cyno out, well... he died :) Ofc he could have tried using alt/friend to double web him so he can insta-warp (same as freighters), but this is a bit bump-direction dependant.
WTB web that works on a MS 
Good point :)
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Don ZOLA
Caldari Omniscient Order Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.24 18:50:00 -
[284]
grats :)
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Sith Bandon
Viper Squad
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Posted - 2007.09.24 20:39:00 -
[285]
Good job on gettin another noob out of he's mom \o/
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Deekan Fox
The Kain Foundation Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.09.24 20:56:00 -
[286]
Well done and wheres the frapps we were promissed?
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.24 21:41:00 -
[287]
Originally by: Jags ****in idiot
And you can quote me on this
IF YOU ****S HAD GOT YER ARSE UP TO BRANCH YOU WOULDNT HAVE LOST YOUR MS.
Congrats on the kill , would love to know how he managed to lose it
Very nice. 
"How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli |

Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.24 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: zilllii that MS was quite a northern MS and not just a M.Pire one i heard 
paid for by Tri built by Morsus Mihi lost by M.Pire
if you think about it then its pretty funny 
except that The End isnt so happy atm i guess.
Wonder if he wants another...hmm...
"How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli |

Alias11
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.24 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Turin Lets be fair here though. The pilot died because he was an idiot, not because of some breakthru in tactics X13 used or anything. Had this guy been on the ball, he would still have his mothership. What an idiot.
Still, EVERY Supercapital dies because the pilot is doing something stupid. Whether it's logging your mothership into a losing fight at a gate or cloaking your titan 100k off a gate. It's really a matter of adding together how stupid the pilot is being and how smart the enemy gang is being to figure out how likely it is that poor bastard is going to die
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Oberkorn
x13
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Posted - 2007.09.25 05:19:00 -
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Edited by: Oberkorn on 25/09/2007 05:19:21
Quote:
Your corp mate is also asuming that you would've killed him regardless what his fitting were. My point being, your plan clearly was better than him and his ship. However it might not have worked on a different setup ship or a different pilot. That's all I'm saying. EVE is full of if's. 
Zakma û Trust me we put a lot of time into this. And maybe if he had done a Mr logoffski and avoid aggro before he gotten to the gate he may have survived. Let be realistic full uber caps reg. will only be used on titans. But Turin and Zakma and who else think that we where just lucky punks drops us a mail next time your ganking n00bs i low sec with your precious uber cap tank. And if you see a x13 member in local hes just mining. Trust me  _____________________________________ Got nothing to loose let's dance
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Captian Internet
Lead Bricks
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Posted - 2007.09.25 05:21:00 -
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Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: Turin Lets be fair here though. The pilot died because he was an idiot, not because of some breakthru in tactics X13 used or anything. Had this guy been on the ball, he would still have his mothership. What an idiot.
Still, EVERY Supercapital dies because the pilot is doing something stupid. Whether it's logging your mothership into a losing fight at a gate or cloaking your titan 100k off a gate. It's really a matter of adding together how stupid the pilot is being and how smart the enemy gang is being to figure out how likely it is that poor bastard is going to die
But on the scale of stupidity to lose in a LOWSEC MS. Is quite different compared to losing a MS to dictor swarms
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Sacul
Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.25 05:26:00 -
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0w c'mon we demand the beans spilled, the contract price announced and the groovy music to go with it!!!!!
im f5'ing every other 3 hours now.....
The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones!
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.25 06:33:00 -
[293]
Originally by: Oberkorn Edited by: Oberkorn on 25/09/2007 05:19:21
Quote:
Your corp mate is also asuming that you would've killed him regardless what his fitting were. My point being, your plan clearly was better than him and his ship. However it might not have worked on a different setup ship or a different pilot. That's all I'm saying. EVE is full of if's. 
Zakma û Trust me we put a lot of time into this. And maybe if he had done a Mr logoffski and avoid aggro before he gotten to the gate he may have survived. Let be realistic full uber caps reg. will only be used on titans. But Turin and Zakma and who else think that we where just lucky punks drops us a mail next time your ganking n00bs i low sec with your precious uber cap tank. And if you see a x13 member in local hes just mining. Trust me 
No one is denying that it was a well executed plan, the point is that a mothership in lowsec doesn't need a tank, and is much more survivable with a good cap regen; as your gang just proved. Once you have a mothership, it is safe to assume that you can afford something better than t2 cap rechargers/t2 cap relays, probably the only t2 fittings on a serious lowsec mothership are the capacitor control circuit II 
Why would you need a tank in low sec? You can permatank the sentries even with a battlecruiser... zakma is right, the mothership was poorly fitted, and everybody should thank x13 for weeding the weak and the stupid out of the game. 
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Ventosus
x13
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Posted - 2007.09.25 08:29:00 -
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Edited by: Ventosus on 25/09/2007 08:33:18
still working on fraps. here's an image from the event
The End's last 20 seconds
............... I will win Eve
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civari
Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.25 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ventosus Edited by: Ventosus on 25/09/2007 08:33:18
still working on fraps. here's an image from the event
The End's last 20 seconds
If the vid is gonna be like that it might get a bit boring.. Hope you remove some of those black boxes :D
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Arngorf
Minmatar x13
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Posted - 2007.09.25 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ventosus Edited by: Ventosus on 25/09/2007 08:33:18
still working on fraps. here's an image from the event
The End's last 20 seconds
You see? YOU SEE? IM THERE!!! (stupid killmail)
survived getting pownded by an army of fighters  ________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait i have untrashed this bug report and i will take care of it.
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ZaKma
Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.25 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Oberkorn Edited by: Oberkorn on 25/09/2007 05:19:21
Quote:
Your corp mate is also asuming that you would've killed him regardless what his fitting were. My point being, your plan clearly was better than him and his ship. However it might not have worked on a different setup ship or a different pilot. That's all I'm saying. EVE is full of if's. 
Zakma û Trust me we put a lot of time into this. And maybe if he had done a Mr logoffski and avoid aggro before he gotten to the gate he may have survived. Let be realistic full uber caps reg. will only be used on titans. But Turin and Zakma and who else think that we where just lucky punks drops us a mail next time your ganking n00bs i low sec with your precious uber cap tank. And if you see a x13 member in local hes just mining. Trust me 
Want to be realistic? If I went through the trouble to get a supercap to use it exclusively for lowsec camping, you could bet your ass off that I'd have a cap fitting on it. It's insane how much regen you can get with a proper setup.
I didn't say you were lucky punks, I congratulated you multiple times on your kill and your well executed plan.. yet you keep acting as if you would've killed any mom regardless of the fitting and the pilot with what you had. Anyway, I think people have seen my sig enough so I'll withdraw from the thread. 
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Strife Phoenix
Acerbus Vindictum
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Posted - 2007.09.25 10:11:00 -
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So The End, you still crying?
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JennyCraigSuccessStory
Hi Friend
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Posted - 2007.09.25 10:20:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Strife Phoenix So The End, you still crying?
apparantly he's quitting. One of his alts for sale.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=601087
And here's his post about leaving.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=197799
His reputation is worthless, he has no pvp skill, he blackmails people... no wonder he's gone. LMAO
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Ventosus
x13
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Posted - 2007.09.25 10:25:00 -
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Quote: Want to be realistic? If I went through the trouble to get a supercap to use it exclusively for lowsec camping, you could bet your ass
You are missing the point. Point beeing we knew that thoose ships where enough. period.
If you had fitted otherwise, we wouldt have that knowledge. period.
2 diffrent cases, one happened, another is theory.
and x13 stop discussing this with Zakma, thanks.
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