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NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.25 12:57:00 - [31] Originally by: marakor BOB and allies has lost ground in none of its original systems but due to being over stretched they have lost a few systems in out lying districts. Now though they are closer to home and more consolidated we are seeing stiffer resistance. Also the fact that GOON are once again screaming for nerfs, now on fighter drones (previously on titans) as BOB/allies are using these fighter drones to counter the lag bomb blobs GOON are still using to swamp more skilled enemies. So as per usual BOB/allies come up with a skilled way to stop GOON and its lemming like tactics and GOON counters by screaming for a nerf instead of actualy trying to out think or skilfuly counter ingame BOB's tactics. GOON are also bringing a lot of noob ships and shuttles to aid in lagging out BOBS forces this says a lot about how covering the space they took is causing them problems with attendance and quality ship types in there large fleet operations. The fighting in the north also seems to have stalled but wheter this is due to the lul before the storm mentality or just a non-pos war nap i heard about a few weeks ago im not totaly sure. YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE DOING.
Tarantelita Ragna Rok Corp	Posted - 2007.09.25 18:09:00 - [32] Well, you shoulf turn the question around. Dont say that BoB has not lost any space, because ragoons have not eigther. Andits BoB that is the "big war machine" that have failed, not raggons. BoB have lost space, the region Omist, and alot of other sistems. Regrouping is one other word, pick whitch you like. The fact is this, to explain the war shortly, BoB is losin slowly. Thats why they have started to go away from they princibles and they are now recrouting "noobs". They did not do that befor when they where winning. But its there only change to change the war scean (to recroute mass noobs).
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.25 19:14:00 - [33] Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 25/09/2007 19:14:35 Originally by: marakor BOB and allies has lost ground in none of its original systems but due to being over stretched they have lost a few systems in out lying districts. Now though they are closer to home and more consolidated we are seeing stiffer resistance. Also the fact that GOON are once again screaming for nerfs, now on fighter drones (previously on titans) as BOB/allies are using these fighter drones to counter the lag bomb blobs GOON are still using to swamp more skilled enemies. So as per usual BOB/allies come up with a skilled way to stop GOON and its lemming like tactics and GOON counters by screaming for a nerf instead of actualy trying to out think or skilfuly counter ingame BOB's tactics. GOON are also bringing a lot of noob ships and shuttles to aid in lagging out BOBS forces this says a lot about how covering the space they took is causing them problems with attendance and quality ship types in there large fleet operations. The fighting in the north also seems to have stalled but wheter this is due to the lul before the storm mentality or just a non-pos war nap i heard about a few weeks ago im not totaly sure. I temporarily removed you from the blocked list to quote this nonsense and laugh at you. Now, back in the ignored. Edit- tell your friends at bob to post their capital lossmails
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.25 21:08:00 - [34] Summary off the top of my head: LV and friends have ceased to exist. Xelas was ejected by BoB and has ceased to exist. D2 has ceased to exist. Some of their friends have been relocated, others have disappeared. The North is now split fairly evenly between Old North alliances and Triumvirate & friends' unaligned (war-wise) territories. BoB pushed the Coalition all the way back to Tenerifis. The Coalition has since pushed BoB back to Feythabolis. Sure sounds like nothing has really happened to me... ------ Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.09.25 21:15:00 - [35] Originally by: Maraude Fury Edited by: Maraude Fury on 24/09/2007 23:58:41 It's like any war. One grou pushed so far forward, then they were pushed back. As supply lines get longer and longer, each side runs into supply troubles. But the honest truth is that the majority of people on each side are in this for the pew pew. Some good epic battles have been fought, some epic lag battles have been lost(Becuase we ALL know the Servers win all lag battles.) Billions upon billions of isk have been lost. Many have stated that they are winning, and the opposition looseing. But until one side breaks the will of the other, things will just grind back and fourth in the south. it's been like this for a long time, and will continue for a long time. It's why most of us play the game :) I don't know why, it's just a hunch, but I think this is an honest answer touching upon truth. --- Join BH-DL
Elder Bob GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.25 21:15:00 - [36] Marakor is a goon troll alt trying too hard.
Phaeton Prime Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.25 22:15:00 - [37] Edited by: Phaeton Prime on 25/09/2007 22:18:13 Edited by: Phaeton Prime on 25/09/2007 22:15:47 Pretty simple why the consensus is that BoB is losing. Corm and Rise are now the frontline. CORM will lose their space this week if the situation remains the same (it will). BoB abandoned attacking (unstoppable force? lol) and their new plan is to defeat IAC which hasn't yet happened. Fix was dying before BoB and MC and northern pals rushed in to save them. BoB/MC and friends (the GBC) goes on roadtrip against CVA and fails to succeed. BoB took in Finfleet to pad flailing participation numbers. BoB suffered some big defeats: Titan killed, large cap losses, members flying comedy setups (read T1 for BoB). RKK lost $300 billion to corp theft. Blacklight left. BoB isn't what it pretended to be and now everyone knows it. BoB can't rely on their "pets" to hold space and give a hilarious pep talk. BoB is stretched thin because territory just folds without them there and in the end they lose it anyway. OMIST. The GBC seems to be worthless without MC or BoB there to prop them up. Molle almost loses another Titan (instead they lose a dozen caps). People don't expect this to happen from the pillars of the MMORPG community. Pendulum is now firmly swinging into BoB's sack. What was omnipotence itself is finding itself impotent. ****'s about to get real.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2007.09.25 22:17:00 - [38] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 25/09/2007 19:14:35 Originally by: marakor BOB and allies has lost ground in none of its original systems but due to being over stretched they have lost a few systems in out lying districts. Now though they are closer to home and more consolidated we are seeing stiffer resistance. Also the fact that GOON are once again screaming for nerfs, now on fighter drones (previously on titans) as BOB/allies are using these fighter drones to counter the lag bomb blobs GOON are still using to swamp more skilled enemies. So as per usual BOB/allies come up with a skilled way to stop GOON and its lemming like tactics and GOON counters by screaming for a nerf instead of actualy trying to out think or skilfuly counter ingame BOB's tactics. GOON are also bringing a lot of noob ships and shuttles to aid in lagging out BOBS forces this says a lot about how covering the space they took is causing them problems with attendance and quality ship types in there large fleet operations. The fighting in the north also seems to have stalled but wheter this is due to the lul before the storm mentality or just a non-pos war nap i heard about a few weeks ago im not totaly sure. I temporarily removed you from the blocked list to quote this nonsense and laugh at you. Now, back in the ignored. Edit- tell your friends at bob to post their capital lossmails It saves me or some body else bumping it so thanks for that, although it was for ppl who did'nt know the truth not for you. And im not buddies with BOB im fighting them.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.09.25 22:26:00 - [39] Originally by: Phaeton Prime Blacklight left. Wow.. Blacklight left? Is that the game or just BoB?
Elder Bob GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.25 22:37:00 - [40] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Phaeton Prime Blacklight left. Wow.. Blacklight left? Is that the game or just BoB? Ask here.
snerdly snerd LTD	Posted - 2007.09.25 22:38:00 - [41] The game. Not related to the war, he was just tired. Shame. Blacklight was one of the few BoB members that's actually likable.
Elder Bob GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.25 22:41:00 - [42] Originally by: snerdly The game. Not related to the war, he was just tired. Shame. Blacklight was one of the few BoB members that's actually likable. There are a fair few BoB members who are likable, it's just that they're usually not the ones ranting on the forums. Blacklight is the only BoB management guy I liked though.
Mythrell Minmatar Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.09.25 22:44:00 - [43] Well most of this is due to POS war being extremely slow nowadays. It takes ages to gain any systems of importance so this war is going to be very long one. In north things are pretty settled, coalition is getting more wins than "bob pets" atm, compared to a situation 4-5 months ago where D2 died and razor was getting heavy system losses. Up here things are very small when compared to war in south, gangs of 30-150 have been shooting POS'ses into reinforced / killing them, only huge fleet battles were when BKG was sieged for a while with 700+ people in local, killing nodes. Another thing worth noting is the mess in drone regions where ex-blues shoot each other currently when they were part of the crusade earlier. I'm not even going to comment on southern war, it's crazy out there. There's reports of tons of capitals dying almost daily but that doesn't seem to effect either of the sides that much.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.09.25 23:29:00 - [44] Originally by: snerdly The game. Not related to the war, he was just tired. Shame. Blacklight was one of the few BoB members that's actually likable. Yeah that really is a shame... he is certainly one of my favourite people. Ofc he might always come back... they mostly do. I'm living proof. EVE is a hard habbit to kick.
Popsikle Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.09.25 23:34:00 - [45] Edited by: Popsikle on 25/09/2007 23:35:01 Originally by: Tarantelita Well, you shoulf turn the question around. Dont say that BoB has not lost any space, because ragoons have not eigther. Andits BoB that is the "big war machine" that have failed, not raggons. BoB have lost space, the region Omist, and alot of other sistems. Regrouping is one other word, pick whitch you like. The fact is this, to explain the war shortly, BoB is losin slowly. Thats why they have started to go away from they princibles and they are now recrouting "noobs". They did not do that befor when they where winning. But its there only change to change the war scean (to recroute mass noobs). Thats pretty much what I said. Nobody has really gained anything or lost anything worth while yet, at least for an extended amount of time. I just see alot of chest beating, and little results, and poor little old me gets confused! I fought in the north during the MC rampage up there with aftermath for a while then i kinda went AFG and now tri owns the space. You what are still where they were (well I guess they gained more space since before the war, but nothing recently) and the rest of the north (other then M.Pire) look to me to be old residents. One could say that Both war machines have failed because one side said one group wouldnt exist and the other said they would be in NOL by now. To the GS posters; The OP wasnt about what has happened in the whole war, its about whats happened in the last few months and why you guys are posturing so badly. I guess its just a moral thing, At least if you say you are winning over and over again you will forget thats its a stalemate ;p ____ <t20> i want to be in a manager potition at Hooters <SaraDawn> Garthagk, do you have it up ? <Garthagk> I can get it up anytime.
Tiggus Maximus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.26 00:03:00 - [46] What did you expect with the new sov changes? It takes a fair bit of time for sov to switch, and with cynojammers making defense easier it's no easy task if you have no foothold to begin with. People say they are losing because they are, just slowly and steadily, one system at a time.
Jacob Majestic GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.26 03:39:00 - [47] What makes you think there's a single forum that I can resist posting in? My alts will blot out the sun. ___ Originally by: steamy thank you Hippoking for doing a Jacob on the goons
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.09.26 13:11:00 - [48] Originally by: Jacob Majestic My alts will blot out the sun. Then we will post in the dark! .. sorry just had to...
Nlewis GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.26 13:20:00 - [49] Edited by: Nlewis on 26/09/2007 13:21:28 Originally by: marakor GOON are also bringing a lot of noob ships and shuttles to aid in lagging out BOBS forces this says a lot about how covering the space they took is causing them problems with attendance and quality ship types in there large fleet operations. you are a ****ty troll. everyone knows fighters are the new noob ships and shuttles
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The Illuminati.	Posted - 2007.09.26 15:15:00 - [50] Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 26/09/2007 15:15:48 Originally by: Nlewis Edited by: Nlewis on 26/09/2007 13:21:28 Originally by: marakor GOON are also bringing a lot of noob ships and shuttles to aid in lagging out BOBS forces this says a lot about how covering the space they took is causing them problems with attendance and quality ship types in there large fleet operations. you are a ****ty troll. everyone knows fighters are the new noob ships and shuttles Please show me the noob ship or shuttle that auto targets/fires and does the same damage as a fighter drone.
Nlewis GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.26 15:29:00 - [51] Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 26/09/2007 15:15:48 Originally by: Nlewis Edited by: Nlewis on 26/09/2007 13:21:28 Originally by: marakor GOON are also bringing a lot of noob ships and shuttles to aid in lagging out BOBS forces this says a lot about how covering the space they took is causing them problems with attendance and quality ship types in there large fleet operations. you are a ****ty troll. everyone knows fighters are the new noob ships and shuttles Please show me the noob ship or shuttle that auto targets/fires and does the same damage as a fighter drone. doing damage isn't the point. in this case it's about creating lag
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The Illuminati.	Posted - 2007.09.26 15:37:00 - [52] Originally by: Nlewis Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 26/09/2007 15:15:48 Originally by: Nlewis Edited by: Nlewis on 26/09/2007 13:21:28 Originally by: marakor GOON are also bringing a lot of noob ships and shuttles to aid in lagging out BOBS forces this says a lot about how covering the space they took is causing them problems with attendance and quality ship types in there large fleet operations. you are a ****ty troll. everyone knows fighters are the new noob ships and shuttles Please show me the noob ship or shuttle that auto targets/fires and does the same damage as a fighter drone. doing damage isn't the point. in this case it's about creating lag If it was just about causing lag BOB and buddies would use friggies noob ships and shuttles just like GOON do. Instead they use 12-18 million isk each worth of ftr drones that do high dmg and auto target if given aggro or if targeted and shot at, then continue to re-aquire and kill stuff.
Elder Bob GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.26 15:43:00 - [53] I have never actually seen a shuttle or a noob ship in combat - I've seen people using shuttles to get to an SMA and pick up a ship though, or to pick up a shuttle left there to get their pod home. Also, one ship + 13 fighters is much more efficient than 1 ship per player count if you want to cause lag, which we sure as **** don't. Why would you want to cause lag when it's your side in the ships worst affected, the ones without the autotargetting weapons?
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The Illuminati.	Posted - 2007.09.26 15:51:00 - [54] Originally by: Elder Bob I have never actually seen a shuttle or a noob ship in combat - I've seen people using shuttles to get to an SMA and pick up a ship though, or to pick up a shuttle left there to get their pod home. Also, one ship + 13 fighters is much more efficient than 1 ship per player count if you want to cause lag, which we sure as **** don't. Why would you want to cause lag when it's your side in the ships worst affected, the ones without the autotargetting weapons? You would'nt now BOB is using this tactic, so i suppose that is why so many goons have started calling for fighter drone nerfs.
Tiggus Maximus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.26 16:05:00 - [55] Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean You would'nt now BOB is using this tactic, so i suppose that is why so many goons have started calling for fighter drone nerfs. I think it's more accurate to say we want fighters to not cause game breaking lag. No one else in the game has used this many fighters in one place before to my knowledge, so why do you find it astonishing that goons are the ones reporting the problem? If bobbie did this against a different alliance I am pretty sure you would see the same complaint, or would they be happy with the node being unplayable?
Narciss Sevar Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.09.26 16:10:00 - [56] Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Originally by: Elder Bob I have never actually seen a shuttle or a noob ship in combat - I've seen people using shuttles to get to an SMA and pick up a ship though, or to pick up a shuttle left there to get their pod home. Also, one ship + 13 fighters is much more efficient than 1 ship per player count if you want to cause lag, which we sure as **** don't. Why would you want to cause lag when it's your side in the ships worst affected, the ones without the autotargetting weapons? You would'nt now BOB is using this tactic, so i suppose that is why so many goons have started calling for fighter drone nerfs. So your saying bob is using a tactic to create lag?
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The Illuminati.	Posted - 2007.09.26 16:14:00 - [57] Originally by: Narciss Sevar Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Originally by: Elder Bob I have never actually seen a shuttle or a noob ship in combat - I've seen people using shuttles to get to an SMA and pick up a ship though, or to pick up a shuttle left there to get their pod home. Also, one ship + 13 fighters is much more efficient than 1 ship per player count if you want to cause lag, which we sure as **** don't. Why would you want to cause lag when it's your side in the ships worst affected, the ones without the autotargetting weapons? You would'nt now BOB is using this tactic, so i suppose that is why so many goons have started calling for fighter drone nerfs. So your saying bob is using a tactic to create lag? read post 52
Pnuka Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.26 16:20:00 - [58] Bob doesn't have the numbers needed for shuttle lag.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The Illuminati.	Posted - 2007.09.26 16:21:00 - [59] Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Originally by: Narciss Sevar Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Originally by: Elder Bob I have never actually seen a shuttle or a noob ship in combat - I've seen people using shuttles to get to an SMA and pick up a ship though, or to pick up a shuttle left there to get their pod home. Also, one ship + 13 fighters is much more efficient than 1 ship per player count if you want to cause lag, which we sure as ** don't. Why would you want to cause lag when it's your side in the ships worst affected, the ones without the autotargetting weapons? You would'nt now BOB is using this tactic, so i suppose that is why so many goons have started calling for fighter drone nerfs. So your saying bob is using a tactic to create lag? read post 52 Originally by:** tiggus maximus I think it's more accurate to say we want fighters to not cause game breaking lag. No one else in the game has used this many fighters in one place before to my knowledge, so why do you find it astonishing that goons are the ones reporting the problem? If bobbie did this against a different alliance I am pretty sure you would see the same complaint, or would they be happy with the node being unplayable? So your saying that you will complain to ccp about fighter drones causing game breaking lag but do nothing about the noobships, t1 friggies and shuttles goon perposly bring to do exactly the same thing. GOONS in space still the focus then hey?.
Tiggus Maximus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.26 16:25:00 - [60] Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean So your saying that you will complain to ccp about fighter drones causing game breaking lag but do nothing about the noobships, t1 friggies and shuttles goon perposly bring to do exactly the same thing. GOONS in space still the focus then hey?. I'd love to see some proof of this first, then sure. Oh right, this is another urban legend that bobbie has been perpetuating so that might be difficult. Before you link the battle where like 50 noob ships were killed, remember to add that it was a fleet of all noob ships and hours after any serious engagement, just for fun. tia.

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