Originally by: Cornucopian

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Originally by: Cornucopian

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Originally by: Malcanis

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"LOL, for once, we are in total agreement malcanis"

'For once'? I agree with quite a lot - most, even - of your posts. Even when I disagree with you, you generally make a good case.

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Hmmmmm..... your one of the few : I just recognised your name from another post and assumed. my bad :-)

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Was it one where I disagreed with you? None such spring to mind.

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Lets leave it at that and rejoice :-)

also lets hope Prism replies to us.....

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Originally by: CCP Prism X

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This topic is so full of fail >.<

ISK buyers promote the existence of ISK sellers. ISK sellers try to maximize their income per second and are competing with players for these resources. Suddenly a catch 22 situation arises because the sellers are well versed in the art of capitalising on the resources presented to them, strip mine them fairly quickly and thus leave less for you and me which in turn increases our need for quick ISK which we in turn might end up buying from them, hence further strengthening their position in this monopoly. That's just one reason of so many. I could bring up the 'What hurts CCP hurts EVE' or the basic 'Selling other peoples property is not cool, mkay?' or 'Too much ISK sales proliferation causes people to remain nubties with no understanding for the worth of ISK effectively dumbing the game down' and I could go on and on.

And what is this about implying that we're not caring about ISK sellers at all? Do you have some mysterious insight into what is happening here? Been reading our logs much perhaps? Or just pulling those facts out of the air? Mayhaps you have a better understanding of the nature of this fight than everyone who's been working on it since launch?

At any rate, you got one thing half right. ISK buyers are not just as bad as ISK sellers. They're a whole lot worse, they create the problem even though we've offered them a legal way of spending their salary on pretend money.

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Originally by: Grifanel Maeibae

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even if they generate resources for themselves they do so by removing those from the game. and eventually they buy something. so 10 isk sellers macro = 10 normal players provided they spend the same amount of time.

your logic is flawed.
if pointing out error in a dev's logic is a bannable offence, ignore whatever i just said.

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Originally by: CCP Prism X

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This topic is so full of fail >.<

ISK buyers promote the existence of ISK sellers. ISK sellers try to maximize their income per second and are competing with players for these resources. Suddenly a catch 22 situation arises because the sellers are well versed in the art of capitalising on the resources presented to them, strip mine them fairly quickly and thus leave less for you and me which in turn increases our need for quick ISK which we in turn might end up buying from them, hence further strengthening their position in this monopoly. That's just one reason of so many. I could bring up the 'What hurts CCP hurts EVE' or the basic 'Selling other peoples property is not cool, mkay?' or 'Too much ISK sales proliferation causes people to remain nubties with no understanding for the worth of ISK effectively dumbing the game down' and I could go on and on.

And what is this about implying that we're not caring about ISK sellers at all? Do you have some mysterious insight into what is happening here? Been reading our logs much perhaps? Or just pulling those facts out of the air? Mayhaps you have a better understanding of the nature of this fight than everyone who's been working on it since launch?

At any rate, you got one thing half right. ISK buyers are not just as bad as ISK sellers. They're a whole lot worse, they create the problem even though we've offered them a legal way of spending their salary on pretend money.

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Originally by: Leora Nomen

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When people talk about bots competing with players, they don't realize how much farmers are really going to compete with them if they are allowed to roam freely in game.

Farmers will go ahead and form some of the richest and most powerful corporations and alliances, powered by people who can play EVE 12+ hours a day and bots that can play all day long. I mean they can play just as well as the next player and even better if their salaries depend on it. Their numbers will also multiply. Next they will take your 0.0 stations, ores, and rats from you, corner all other operations that generate a lot of ISK per minute, and then try to sell you back this ISK they deprived you from in the first place for real life cash. If ISK selling is made legal that's exactly what is going to happen.

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