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Kyreax
Deepspace Exploration Biscuit Repair Associates
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Posted - 2007.09.27 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: Kyreax on 27/09/2007 18:43:12 Edited by: Kyreax on 27/09/2007 18:31:28 I know it seems tough given the insane dps of their torpedos, but what would you try?
Me: I have all Cap skills to V Gallente BS V Maxed drone damage - Ogre II's x 5 (475 dps) Repair Systems V crap gunnery skills, but advanced weapon upgrades IV shabby ecm skills
These players are ALWAYS using Bane Torpedos (I scan them out a lot), so I need a tank for Explosive Damage. They are also rather noobish, the oldest char is 4 months old. They dont use drones it seems. Weird.
It can be T2, although I'm assuming I'm going to lose it trying this, so no faction gear.
Ideas?
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Terianna Eri
Amarr STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.27 18:35:00 -
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Have you also been cargoscanning them to see what kind of torpedoes they're carrying?
You never know, they may be carrying all sorts but only using explosive.
Failing that: Hi: guns, cloak to sneak up? Mid: mwd/web/scram/injector/whatever Lows: tank, 3x explosive hardeners, 1x thermic hardener for drones Rigs: tank rigs
I dunno how good their missile skills can be if the oldest char is 4 months old... that's, what, only 4-5m sp? Probably not looking at more than 1200 dps which, if it's all explosive, shouldn't be too hard to tank.
Just some thoughts (i'm not a domi pilot after all) __________________________________
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Perfect Diamond
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Posted - 2007.09.27 18:38:00 -
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I say drop the dominix for an nano ishatar with t2 heavy drones.
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Kyreax
Deepspace Exploration Biscuit Repair Associates
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Posted - 2007.09.27 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri Have you also been cargoscanning them to see what kind of torpedoes they're carrying?
Good point. But these guys are a bunch of macro haulers in a big group, all with badly translated chinese names. The only thing Ive ever seen them use is Banes.
And I can't fly a nano-Ishtar, sadly.
Oh, one more assumption: this is usually a station-based fight...they baited me with a single battleship to tank the sentry guns in lowsec, then as soon as I opened fire...out come the other battleships to pwn me. I did manage to kill the bait ship though, even though he was stabbed and 1600mm plated to the max.
You think around 1200 dps max? ---------------------------------------------------
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Perfect Diamond
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Posted - 2007.09.27 18:52:00 -
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I've played this undocking game way to much. I'm actually surprised you were able to kill the bs b4 it was able to dock. If they get smart and dock anytime they get low on armor, then there is no way to kill it on station.
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Cutie Chaser
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.27 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kyreax
...these guys are a bunch of macro haulers in a big group, all with badly translated chinese names...
...they baited me with a single battleship to tank the sentry guns in lowsec, then as soon as I opened fire...out come the other battleships to pwn me....
Either thats the best macro in the world, or you've got a group of 3 people actively trying to kill you who happen to have badly translated chinese names.
Macros don't bait you into fights and kick your arse. There is someone behind that keyboard.
*** Thats a Templar, the amarr fighter. Its a combat drone used by carriers. |

Liang Nuren
The Refugees
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Posted - 2007.09.27 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Cutie Chaser
Originally by: Kyreax
...these guys are a bunch of macro haulers in a big group, all with badly translated chinese names...
...they baited me with a single battleship to tank the sentry guns in lowsec, then as soon as I opened fire...out come the other battleships to pwn me....
Either thats the best macro in the world, or you've got a group of 3 people actively trying to kill you who happen to have badly translated chinese names.
Macros don't bait you into fights and kick your arse. There is someone behind that keyboard.
Heh, heh, heh. My name is badly translated chinese. 
Liang
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DanKills
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Posted - 2007.09.27 19:08:00 -
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This is gonna sound really crazy...
But you could put up a Shield tank that can easily tank all that explosive damage.
If you fill up your low slots with Capacitor Power Relays/Flux Coils, you can actually permarun a shield tank capable of tanking 1300 dps (explosive).
Food for thought.
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DanKills
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Posted - 2007.09.27 19:10:00 -
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Oh oh also just so you know torpedoes do like NO damage to anyone moving faster than 300 m/s.
Much easier than learning shield tanking skills =P
A good afterburner, maybe an overdrive injector and you should be pretty much immune to torp fire.
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Cutie Chaser
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.27 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Heh, heh, heh. My name is badly translated chinese. 
Liang
Yeah, and because it is you are obviously just a well-designed macro whose purpose is to come to the boards and steal our lulz and sell them on ebay.
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Liang Nuren
The Refugees
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Posted - 2007.09.27 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Cutie Chaser
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Heh, heh, heh. My name is badly translated chinese. 
Liang
Yeah, and because it is you are obviously just a well-designed macro whose purpose is to come to the boards and steal our lulz and sell them on ebay.
Exactly! 
Liang
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Marsh Mellows
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Posted - 2007.09.27 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Perfect Diamond I say drop the dominix for an nano ishatar with t2 heavy drones.
Lol.. word!.. I litterally attacked 12 ravens and a scorp.. killed the scorp, 2 ravens, a cormorant, a drake (damped him) and the rest fled. Lol i even looted. Noobs didn't shoot my drones and there torps couldn't do a darn thing.
These guys were also Chinese farmers i beleive. I attacked them a few times actually.
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Amuko
Amarr Happy Little Roid Huggers
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Posted - 2007.09.27 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Marsh Mellows
Originally by: Perfect Diamond I say drop the dominix for an nano ishatar with t2 heavy drones.
Lol.. word!.. I litterally attacked 12 ravens and a scorp.. killed the scorp, 2 ravens, a cormorant, a drake (damped him) and the rest fled. Lol i even looted. Noobs didn't shoot my drones and there torps couldn't do a darn thing.
These guys were also Chinese farmers i beleive. I attacked them a few times actually.
Proof or stfu 
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Liang Nuren
The Refugees
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Posted - 2007.09.27 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Marsh Mellows
Originally by: Perfect Diamond I say drop the dominix for an nano ishatar with t2 heavy drones.
Lol.. word!.. I litterally attacked 12 ravens and a scorp.. killed the scorp, 2 ravens, a cormorant, a drake (damped him) and the rest fled. Lol i even looted. Noobs didn't shoot my drones and there torps couldn't do a darn thing.
These guys were also Chinese farmers i beleive. I attacked them a few times actually.
Stories like this are what got the nano-phoon nerfed.
Liang
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Cutie Chaser
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.27 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Stories like this are what got the nano-phoon nerfed.
Liang
No, horrible brokenness got the nano-phoon nerfed. Stories like this just got it nerfed sooner.
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Cool Goose
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Posted - 2007.09.27 20:00:00 -
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If the oldest character is only 4 months old then you can kill them pretty fast if you keep them from warping away. Let's be serious in 4 months you can't have decent skills at all. I'll bet that they don't even have all the missle slots filled :).
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.09.27 21:23:00 -
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Could've always gone DiscoDomi with 5 Garde Is deployed 20km away. 2 cap injectors, MWD, a full resists + 1600mm plates build, 4 heavy named SBs-it fits. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars. |

Gamesguy
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.27 21:29:00 -
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Discodomi could work, if you activate the smarties in sequence(1 each second) you stand a good chance of blowing up most of the torpedos before they hit you.
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Liang Nuren
The Refugees
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Posted - 2007.09.27 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Gamesguy Discodomi could work, if you activate the smarties in sequence(1 each second) you stand a good chance of blowing up most of the torpedos before they hit you.
I'd agree with Cruise - but I dunno about with Torps... I'd need to test that vs a corpmate or two before I agreed. =D
When is D00M going to lower their SP requirement to 15M SP so I can join? 
Liang
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Gamesguy
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.27 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Gamesguy Discodomi could work, if you activate the smarties in sequence(1 each second) you stand a good chance of blowing up most of the torpedos before they hit you.
I'd agree with Cruise - but I dunno about with Torps... I'd need to test that vs a corpmate or two before I agreed. =D
When is D00M going to lower their SP requirement to 15M SP so I can join? 
Liang
Defenders did about 75 damage IIRC, and it takes 3 defenders to down a torp, a large smartbomb deals 300 damage, which should be enough.
As for your 2nd question, never.
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Kyreax
Deepspace Exploration Biscuit Repair Associates
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Posted - 2007.09.27 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Cutie Chaser Either thats the best macro in the world, or you've got a group of 3 people actively trying to kill you who happen to have badly translated chinese names. Macros don't bait you into fights and kick your arse. There is someone behind that keyboard.
Yes, I meant to say chinese courier isk lp farmers, not macroers. 99% of the time they're flying about minding their own business in their haulers and shuttles, gathering lps to convert to items to sell for isk to sell for cash... *whew* They're making some serious bank in little time. There's at LEAST 30 of them working together.
OK, so I've got the following...I'll take little to no damage if I move with a good AB on (above 300 m/sec) and tank for Explosive I should be fine.
Any views on ECM bursts? I know their target speed is low because they all fit at least one WCS. ---------------------------------------------------
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Kyreax
Deepspace Exploration Biscuit Repair Associates
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Posted - 2007.09.27 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Perfect Diamond I've played this undocking game way to much. I'm actually surprised you were able to kill the bs b4 it was able to dock. If they get smart and dock anytime they get low on armor, then there is no way to kill it on station.
Well, it opened fire first, so he couldn't redock. Stupid me returned fire without realizing that his mates were inside waiting to undock and pwn me. So then I couldn't redock either...nor run when they scrambled me. They seem almost organized, or I'm really terrible at PvP. Probably the latter. ---------------------------------------------------
It's a Templar, an Amarr Fighter used by Carriers. |

Liang Nuren
The Refugees
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Posted - 2007.09.27 21:37:00 -
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Edited by: Liang Nuren on 27/09/2007 21:37:40
Originally by: Gamesguy
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Gamesguy Discodomi could work, if you activate the smarties in sequence(1 each second) you stand a good chance of blowing up most of the torpedos before they hit you.
I'd agree with Cruise - but I dunno about with Torps... I'd need to test that vs a corpmate or two before I agreed. =D
When is D00M going to lower their SP requirement to 15M SP so I can join? 
Liang
Defenders did about 75 damage IIRC, and it takes 3 defenders to down a torp, a large smartbomb deals 300 damage, which should be enough.
As for your 2nd question, never.
Hmm, yeah you may be right about the SB's.
And TBH, I probably wouldn't want to join D00M if they didn't have that SP limit. There's nothing like flying with experienced players. Ah well, I'm patient. :p
Liang
Edit: Clarity
Yarr? |

madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.09.27 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 27/09/2007 21:37:40
Originally by: Gamesguy
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Gamesguy Discodomi could work, if you activate the smarties in sequence(1 each second) you stand a good chance of blowing up most of the torpedos before they hit you.
I'd agree with Cruise - but I dunno about with Torps... I'd need to test that vs a corpmate or two before I agreed. =D
When is D00M going to lower their SP requirement to 15M SP so I can join? 
Liang
Defenders did about 75 damage IIRC, and it takes 3 defenders to down a torp, a large smartbomb deals 300 damage, which should be enough.
As for your 2nd question, never.
Hmm, yeah you may be right about the SB's.
And TBH, I probably wouldn't want to join D00M if they didn't have that SP limit. There's nothing like flying with experienced players. Ah well, I'm patient. :p
Liang
Edit: Clarity
Notify: You cannot activate your smartbomb, plz move 5 km from the station.
/emote moves 25 km from the station. woohoo im out of range! oh darn... NERF STATIONSIZE! _________________________________________________ Breetime
A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |

Liang Nuren
The Refugees
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Posted - 2007.09.27 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap
Notify: You cannot activate your smartbomb, plz move 5 km from the station.
/emote moves 25 km from the station. woohoo im out of range! oh darn... NERF STATIONSIZE!
Station based fights are pointless unless you have the damage to pop them in 30 seconds flat.
Liang
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.09.27 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: madaluap
Notify: You cannot activate your smartbomb, plz move 5 km from the station.
/emote moves 25 km from the station. woohoo im out of range! oh darn... NERF STATIONSIZE!
Station based fights are pointless unless you have the damage to pop them in 30 seconds flat.
Liang
OK...Calm down, this is merely attempt 3 to post something, the forums keep eating posts here. 
kk, what i replied to was:
Originally by: Kyreax
Oh, one more assumption: this is usually a station-based fight...they baited me with a single battleship to tank the sentry guns in lowsec, then as soon as I opened fire...out come the other battleships to pwn me. I did manage to kill the bait ship though, even though he was stabbed and 1600mm plated to the max.
I know station fights suck, thats why i hate/left empire. _________________________________________________ Breetime
A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |

Liang Nuren
The Refugees
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Posted - 2007.09.27 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: madaluap
Notify: You cannot activate your smartbomb, plz move 5 km from the station.
/emote moves 25 km from the station. woohoo im out of range! oh darn... NERF STATIONSIZE!
Station based fights are pointless unless you have the damage to pop them in 30 seconds flat.
Liang
OK...Calm down, this is merely attempt 3 to post something, the forums keep eating posts here. 
kk, what i replied to was:
Originally by: Kyreax
Oh, one more assumption: this is usually a station-based fight...they baited me with a single battleship to tank the sentry guns in lowsec, then as soon as I opened fire...out come the other battleships to pwn me. I did manage to kill the bait ship though, even though he was stabbed and 1600mm plated to the max.
I know station fights suck, thats why i hate/left empire.
Yeah, I wasn't upset. Sorry, its sometimes easy to misinterpret things on the inter-webs. =)
Liang
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Jackal79
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Posted - 2007.09.27 23:20:00 -
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If they're smart yer dead. But if they're farmers, you'll probably get one and the others will flee.
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Gamesguy
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: madaluap
Notify: You cannot activate your smartbomb, plz move 5 km from the station.
/emote moves 25 km from the station. woohoo im out of range! oh darn... NERF STATIONSIZE!
Station based fights are pointless unless you have the damage to pop them in 30 seconds flat.
Liang
OK...Calm down, this is merely attempt 3 to post something, the forums keep eating posts here. 
kk, what i replied to was:
Originally by: Kyreax
Oh, one more assumption: this is usually a station-based fight...they baited me with a single battleship to tank the sentry guns in lowsec, then as soon as I opened fire...out come the other battleships to pwn me. I did manage to kill the bait ship though, even though he was stabbed and 1600mm plated to the max.
I know station fights suck, thats why i hate/left empire.
NPC stations have sentry guns that shoot you if you smartbomb someone within 150km of the station, its freaking ********.
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Asteryos
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Posted - 2007.09.28 06:48:00 -
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Highs: 5 Heavy Neutrons II Meds: MWD, web, warp dis, heavy cap booster II x2 Lows: LAR II x2, kin/expl/therm II, eanm II, dmg control II (maybe swap out the eanm II for another expl hardener but i wouldnt take the risk :o) rigs: 2x aux nano pumps, 1 nanobot acc.
Drones (Ogres & Berserkers etc etc)
Or just take some friends into the frenzy, im willing to help if its close :D.
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