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PauZotoh Zhaan Teylas Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.28 08:10:00 - [1] Ok, this game become more and more pointless wit suicde gangs. becouse there;s no way to prevent them from happening and stupid gm responds that get a scout wont help you becouse they wont insta pop scouts. 2007.09.28 07:55 Victim: PauZotoh Zhaan Alliance: NONE Corp: Teylas Inc. Destroyed: Iteron Mark V System: Uedama Security: 0.5 Involved parties: Name: Syllvana (laid the final blow) Security: 1.1 Alliance: oooh Shiny Corp: Maza Nostra Ship: Armageddon Weapon: Mega Pulse Laser II and his friend in ... npc corp Tini'a took loot so explain me how to prevent from happening it? I had shield extenders, and dont tell me to get freighter. You can say im whining, but you would too if you lose stuff you worked hard for it for few weeks. And why best loot always survive when I die? You cant protest haulers in hi sec, they you can asweel change hi sec to low sec. Too bad I paid for my account for next 3 month, becouse I dont see point playing this game anymore.
JeanPaul Sartre 26th of July Movement	Posted - 2007.09.28 08:14:00 - [2] First in 12045567783th suicide gank thread! -- Quote: If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.
Minmatar Alt Minmatar	Posted - 2007.09.28 08:15:00 - [3] Edited by: Minmatar Alt on 28/09/2007 08:15:05 Dam you beat me to it, oh and in before the flamage. hands burn cream to OP you be needing this. ---My Unjacked Sig Space---Can't Touch This Does Hammer Slide--- A Veldspar dies every 2 minutes, Donate money to me to help fund my rightous cause to stop further Veldspar Massacres.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.28 08:16:00 - [4] Edited by: Akita T on 28/09/2007 08:18:05 Suicide ganking is a DESIRED game mechanic. It will never be "fixed", and nothing will ever be done to "prevent" it. Only the victims hate it. Don't be a victim. ___ HOW to NOT be a victim ? EASY ! Never carry MUCH more value in goods as value of ISK loss to whoever can kill you. _ [CNVTF] is recruiting \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.09.28 08:17:00 - [5] Did you have any resist mods along with those extenders? A single 50% EM hardner would have probably saved you as your base is 0%.. Even a fat hp tank will fall in a blink to mega pulse lasers with no resists at all to back it up.. Oh.. And just how much isk value did your cargo have? Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Stork DK Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2007.09.28 08:17:00 - [6] Edited by: Stork DK on 28/09/2007 08:18:25 It was your fault... This is not Hello Kitty Online EDIT: Oh and can i have your stuff? -------------- Who dares to mod my sig?!
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.28 08:20:00 - [7] Originally by: PauZotoh Zhaan Destroyed: Iteron Mark V [...] so explain me how to prevent from happening it? I had shield extenders, and dont tell me to get freighter. Freighter ? Not needed. But an Occator/Viator would have been a good idea. _ [CNVTF] is recruiting \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained
Lucky 8 Minmatar	Posted - 2007.09.28 08:23:00 - [8] Prop to Ohhh Shiny for "bringing it" to empire! -- Originally by: Nicho Void This thread is like a chum slick for forum alt trolls.
Fswd	Posted - 2007.09.28 08:25:00 - [9] Edited by: Fswd on 28/09/2007 08:26:26 Waaaaah i am am moron who thinks autopiloting through empire with a multimillion cargo through empire is a smart thing to do. Oh, and: here --- Free exotic dancers for mods that mod my sig Snip Please do not discuss moderation in your signature. -Yipsilanti ([email protected]) <-- freebie for you

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2007.09.28 08:35:00 - [10] Real men fly shuttles Did you find Chribba's LoveCan ?

Postlatta Mouseanon Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.09.28 08:36:00 - [11] Originally by: PauZotoh Zhaan Ok, this game become more and more pointless wit suicde gangs. becouse there;s no way to prevent them from happening and stupid gm responds that get a scout wont help you becouse they wont insta pop scouts. 2007.09.28 07:55 Victim: PauZotoh Zhaan Alliance: NONE Corp: Teylas Inc. Destroyed: Iteron Mark V System: Uedama Security: 0.5 Involved parties: Name: Syllvana (laid the final blow) Security: 1.1 Alliance: oooh Shiny Corp: Maza Nostra Ship: Armageddon Weapon: Mega Pulse Laser II and his friend in ... npc corp Tini'a took loot so explain me how to prevent from happening it? I had shield extenders, and dont tell me to get freighter. You can say im whining, but you would too if you lose stuff you worked hard for it for few weeks. And why best loot always survive when I die? You cant protest haulers in hi sec, they you can asweel change hi sec to low sec. Too bad I paid for my account for next 3 month, becouse I dont see point playing this game anymore. Damn Dude... sorry. I happen to agree with you. However, having moved into 0.0 Alliance space I have to tell you it's safer than being in empire. Just FYI.
Syrin Wildfire Laboratrories	Posted - 2007.09.28 08:41:00 - [12] Suicide ganking has always been here, why fix it now for you ? Suicide kestrels rocked
RaTTuS BIG Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.09.28 08:42:00 - [13] Occator \| Viator will help here, Suicide crews loose their ships -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve & RaTTuS Home
Jezala Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.09.28 08:46:00 - [14] It'll help us a lot to understand why you were victimized if you can tell us what you were carrying and what got destroyed.
Anson Halleck Lost Eden	Posted - 2007.09.28 08:53:00 - [15] Suicide ganking is OK, as long as few problems are fixed: a) attackers don't get insurance I think this one does not need any explanation, getting insurance for loss caused by law enforcement after you committed crime is plain stupid b) attackers get higher security hits It should be harder to repetitively use same characters for suicide attacks in high security space. CONCORD has some records, don't they? c) attacker's partners are attacked by CONCORD for stealing loot I guess this is point where most of people won't agree. From my point of view, suicide ganking in empire should be possible and valid tactic for causing loss to your victim - by destroying their ships and part of cargo. But it should not be possible to profit from it by stealing victim's property under sight of police officers. In other words, let people sucidide gank to cause damage and losses, but not for profit. Not in high security space.
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.09.28 08:58:00 - [16] Originally by: PauZotoh Zhaan so explain me how to prevent from happening it? I had shield extenders, and dont tell me to get freighter. Get a transport ship. You already have gallente industrial V, so it shouldn't be much of an issue for you. Or a tanked battleship, or get a friend in logistic to remote you, or make several trips to haul your stuff, there's a plethora of ways to avoid getting ganked. You got lazy and stupid, carrying hundreds of millions in a easily ganked ship, and you paid for it. ------------------------------------------ What is Oomph? It the sound Amarr players makes when they get kicked in the ribs.
Cyberman Mastermind	Posted - 2007.09.28 09:01:00 - [17] Originally by: RaTTuS Suicide crews loose their ships But they still get insurance,reducing the actual loss.
Meirre K'Tun Causing Trouble	Posted - 2007.09.28 09:04:00 - [18] Edited by: Meirre K''Tun on 28/09/2007 09:05:02 Edited by: Meirre K''Tun on 28/09/2007 09:04:49 Originally by: Anson Halleck Suicide ganking is OK, as long as few problems are fixed: a) attackers don't get insurance I think this one does not need any explanation, getting insurance for loss caused by law enforcement after you committed crime is plain stupid b) attackers get higher security hits It should be harder to repetitively use same characters for suicide attacks in high security space. CONCORD has some records, don't they? c) attacker's partners are attacked by CONCORD for stealing loot I guess this is point where most of people won't agree. From my point of view, suicide ganking in empire should be possible and valid tactic for causing loss to your victim - by destroying their ships and part of cargo. But it should not be possible to profit from it by stealing victim's property under sight of police officers. In other words, let people sucidide gank to cause damage and losses, but not for profit. Not in high security space. so you say: let them attack you in highsec, but don't make it profitable at all? that's bullsh... I think, as someone already stated, this is not hello kitty online. split your stuff up in 3-4 runs or transport it in a BS. or just stay out of jita, might help as well ;)
Ladyah Liandri A GmbH	Posted - 2007.09.28 09:10:00 - [19] Originally by: Anson Halleck Suicide ganking is OK, as long as few problems are fixed: a) attackers don't get insurance I think this one does not need any explanation, getting insurance for loss caused by law enforcement after you committed crime is plain stupid /signed Quote: b) attackers get higher security hits It should be harder to repetitively use same characters for suicide attacks in high security space. CONCORD has some records, don't they? I think the current sec hits are hard enough. Quote: c) attacker's partners are attacked by CONCORD for stealing loot I guess this is point where most of people won't agree. From my point of view, suicide ganking in empire should be possible and valid tactic for causing loss to your victim - by destroying their ships and part of cargo. But it should not be possible to profit from it by stealing victim's property under sight of police officers. In other words, let people sucidide gank to cause damage and losses, but not for profit. Not in high security space. Woot ??? That'd be just weird in oh so many ways. And on a side note: isn't that the 746th thread about this issue? Sorry OP - t'was your own fault.
Xtreem Gallente Naughty 40 Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.28 09:11:00 - [20] how much you lose?
Shevar Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.09.28 09:17:00 - [21] The solution is to transport less then a few hundred million ISK worth of stuff in a squishie ship like a transport, industrial or freighter. If you want to carry around huge ammounts use a tanked battleship with a few warpcore stabs. --- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
Jake Devlin Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.09.28 09:17:00 - [22] Originally by: Anson Halleck But it should not be possible to profit from it by stealing victim's property under sight of police officers. Please realize that CONCORD are not the police and never have been. The purpose of the organization is to prevent large scale warfare between the major factions. Guns don't kill people, bubbles do
Ghaelsto Kakram	Posted - 2007.09.28 10:00:00 - [23] Originally by: Xtreem how much you lose? Eleventy millions?
Izo Azlion Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.09.28 10:01:00 - [24] Originally by: PauZotoh Zhaan Ok, this game become more and more pointless wit suicde gangs. becouse there;s no way to prevent them from happening and stupid gm responds that get a scout wont help you becouse they wont insta pop scouts. 2007.09.28 07:55 Victim: PauZotoh Zhaan Alliance: NONE Corp: Teylas Inc. Destroyed: Iteron Mark V System: Uedama Security: 0.5 Involved parties: Name: Syllvana (laid the final blow) Security: 1.1 Alliance: oooh Shiny Corp: Maza Nostra Ship: Armageddon Weapon: Mega Pulse Laser II and his friend in ... npc corp Tini'a took loot so explain me how to prevent from happening it? I had shield extenders, and dont tell me to get freighter. You can say im whining, but you would too if you lose stuff you worked hard for it for few weeks. And why best loot always survive when I die? You cant protest haulers in hi sec, they you can asweel change hi sec to low sec. Too bad I paid for my account for next 3 month, becouse I dont see point playing this game anymore. I'd ask for your stuff, but you dont have any left. Sorry, but I have little to no sympathy. Izo Azlion. ---
Anson Halleck Lost Eden	Posted - 2007.09.28 10:09:00 - [25] Originally by: Jake Devlin Originally by: Anson Halleck But it should not be possible to profit from it by stealing victim's property under sight of police officers. Please realize that CONCORD are not the police and never have been. The purpose of the organization is to prevent large scale warfare between the major factions. Well many of them have the word "police" in their names... but yeah I realize they are not regular police force. However I find it very strange, that they come to kill attacker and then watch how attacker's partner collect the loot.
Cornucopian Gallente Orias Fringe Enterprises United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.28 10:19:00 - [26] to the op: STFU AND POST IN ONE OF THE 1923468273468207501853 OTHER THREADS. stfu hot cup of STFU take the hint sesame stfu stfu NOOB arnie says: and in closing: STOP POSTING ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer." Originally by: Royaldo complete win by Cornucopian!
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2007.09.28 10:32:00 - [27] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 28/09/2007 10:36:20 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 28/09/2007 10:35:50 Originally by: PauZotoh Zhaan Victim: PauZotoh Zhaan Alliance: NONE Corp: Teylas Inc. Destroyed: Iteron Mark V System: Uedama Security: 0.5 Involved parties: Name: Syllvana (laid the final blow) Security: 1.1 Alliance: oooh Shiny Corp: Maza Nostra Ship: Armageddon Weapon: Mega Pulse Laser II Well, you must've been carrying something really shiny to sacrifice a T2-fit Armageddon (now, that along with paying for insurance does in fact constitute a bit of ISK investment to kill you)... You were carrying too much money in your cargo hold for the tank you have, and then probably autopiloting, weren't you? ;) Edit: oh, yes. Can I have whatever is left of your stuff? Edit#2: I forgot - it's much funnier to flame you if we know what you lost, you know.
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.09.28 10:41:00 - [28] Originally by: Postlatta Mouseanon However, having moved into 0.0 Alliance space I have to tell you it's safer than being in empire. Just FYI. Please tell me where so I can go and straighten out your delusions about 0.0.
Major Death Caldari Space Salvage Incorperated	Posted - 2007.09.28 10:47:00 - [29] Couple of questions, 1. Were you AFK at the time? 2. What was in the cargo? (Someone sacrificed a T2 fitted BB to get it) My original sig was 'Enjoy lag free play in a dynamic space MMORPG'. It was removed for lack of EVE content! ;)
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.28 10:49:00 - [30] CCP says suiciding in highsec and then using a 2nd character to pick it up is a desired game mechanic and would not change Btw, a nanoed viator would be nigh impossible to gank. Unless, of course, you were afk.

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