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James King Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.09.29 15:32:00 - [91] Originally by: Lord Dynastron Originally by: b00bs Originally by: Lord Dynastron There are only 4 things you can do I am afraid... Fly in a better (harder to kill) ship. This will not foolproof tho. Bring an escourt, and hope they can scoop your loot first.... Complain on the forums,, a lot. Quit. Sadly, this is the most effective of all methods. Enough people quit, CCP will get the point. yes it will No you can bring an escort and fight back Arent you a bit pathetic? And a coward You just a noob you when you can accept that you will move ahead. Hehe,,, gatta love an alt poster shouting 'coward'. Awesome! lol, agreed... see what i did there? lol a welcome alternative to eves jukebox
Idravco	Posted - 2007.09.29 15:33:00 - [92] Less Whining more Hauling plz .... I haven't scaned a ship worthy of a gank for over a hour now. btw no nerf needed, just stop giving us jucy targets and/or use ur brain (if there is anny).
DarkFenix Caldari Pilots Of Honour	Posted - 2007.09.29 18:11:00 - [93] OP thoroughly deserved getting ganked. Tech 1 hauler, enough cargo to make it worthwhile. If it's worth that much, use a transport ship. You've trained for an Itty 5, you've absolutely no excuse. Thank God such pathetic players are weeded out of Eve by some of the harsher game mechanics, or Eve would be a far more irritating and whiny place than it is now (hell, it's bad enough as is).
Ridley Scot Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.29 18:45:00 - [94] Edited by: Ridley Scot on 29/09/2007 18:47:11 Originally by: DarkFenix OP thoroughly deserved getting ganked. Tech 1 hauler, enough cargo to make it worthwhile. If it's worth that much, use a transport ship. You've trained for an Itty 5, you've absolutely no excuse. Thank God such pathetic players are weeded out of Eve by some of the harsher game mechanics, or Eve would be a far more irritating and whiny place than it is now (hell, it's bad enough as is). I agree with you, tech 2 helps. Posted by Tropic9: Originally by: Akita T Freighter ? Not needed. But an Occator/Viator would have been a good idea. You and the other members of the 'get a transport ship' club are funny. http://shiny.euphoria-released.com/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=744&scl_id=14 ----------------------------------------------- Stop buying ISK, you are killing the game !
Steve Hawkings	Posted - 2007.09.29 18:57:00 - [95] Originally by: Tropic9 Originally by: Steve Hawkings Originally by: Tropic9 Edited by: Tropic9 on 28/09/2007 10:57:10 Edited by: Tropic9 on 28/09/2007 10:56:39 Originally by: Akita T Freighter ? Not needed. But an Occator/Viator would have been a good idea. You and the other members of the 'get a transport ship' club are funny. http://shiny.euphoria-released.com/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=744&scl_id=14 you wouldnt be able to scan a stabbed viator though m8 so hush. What do stabs have to do with cargo scanning? And if you think that the ship that kills the hauler is the one that scans the potential target then you don't know much about suicide ganking. So hush yourself. tbh m8 ive made far more from it than you have. 11 billion and counting. and my bad i meant inertia stabs.
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.29 19:26:00 - [96] Hahahahahaaa . Darwin wins again
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.29 19:37:00 - [97] Don't carry gold bars around in a U-Haul truck.
Balcura	Posted - 2007.09.29 22:36:00 - [98] Originally by: Berrik Radhok Don't carry gold bars around in a U-Haul truck. You could, but the same thing would happen to it... LOL I have to say... I'm sorry about your loss, There ARE things you can do to stop/minimze it and you have to expect that people will kill you and take your stuff for profit. There are options... The biggest one I see most often is cargo expanders in the lows, sacrifice 1 expander and put a DC II in that bad boy to increase your chances. (yea you can't haul as much but chances are good you'll get it to the end goal more intact) Another is if you have small m3 items worth millions of isk (implants come to mind) use a shuttle and warp to 0 OR fly a properly tanked BS/cmd ship that can handle a little butt kickin. If you are forced to use a hauler, and you are shield takining it (Mammoth, Badger II and Bestower) all can fit a pretty good ACTIVE tank... your survival depends on your ability to draw the fight out over 60-90sec, if you last that long you win if not you loose. I have had a few times where a ganker attempts to kill my Bestower just to find it has pretty good resists, an active shield tank and 60% resists in structure. When you loose ships and stuff it hurts... find a way to make it happen less, become a "smarter" player and learn how to fit ships, even industrial ones well.
Ridley Scot Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.30 01:52:00 - [99] Originally by: Balcura Another is if you have small m3 items worth millions of isk (implants come to mind) use a shuttle Shuttle Shuttle 2 and Implants Good luck If thats how you transport your stuff, I hope you dont run out of it. ----------------------------------------------- Stop buying ISK, you are killing the game !
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.09.30 01:54:00 - [100] Originally by: Ridley Scot Originally by: Balcura Another is if you have small m3 items worth millions of isk (implants come to mind) use a shuttle Shuttle Shuttle 2 and Implants Good luck If thats how you transport your stuff, I hope you dont run out of it. LOL how long were they afk?
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.30 04:55:00 - [101] Originally by: Ridley Scot Originally by: Balcura Another is if you have small m3 items worth millions of isk (implants come to mind) use a shuttle Shuttle Shuttle 2 and Implants Good luck If thats how you transport your stuff, I hope you dont run out of it. Its called not being afk.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.30 05:25:00 - [102] Edited by: Akita T on 30/09/2007 05:28:01 Originally by: Akita T Originally by: PauZotoh Zhaan Destroyed: Iteron Mark V [...] so explain me how to prevent from happening it? I had shield extenders, and dont tell me to get freighter. Freighter ? Not needed. But an Occator/Viator would have been a good idea. Originally by: heheheh Just so you know, as you obviously dont, The setup used by the bomber in the OP would easily be able to take an occator or viator. Just so you know, there is more than ONE way to tank an OCCATOR (and it can be tanked to insane effective HP values to make suicide-ganking much less profitable in case it succeeds, or downright fail), and a VIATOR can be setup in such a way that you'd almost need a miracle to lock it at all in the first place. Operative word being "CAN". Originally by: Tropic9 You and the other members of the 'get a transport ship' club are funny. http://shiny.euphoria-released.com/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=744&scl_id=14 Oh, and look at that, EACH AND EVERY ONE of them deep space transports, not blockade runners, and all of them with generally CRAPPY setups... choke-full of expanded cargoholds and loads of valuable loot. I'm so sorry for the pilot who has no clue how to setup his EXPENSIVE ship with its even MORE EXPENSIVE cargo, for the job at hand. To put it this way... if you're flying a DST, you better have somewhere around 70-90k effective HP (a freighter has around 200k)... and if you're flying a BR, you better have an align time under 4 seconds and an Improved Cloak (and use it constantly, at each jump). That, or stop transporting stuff worth billions in a single freaking run. ___ Let me repeat this so it sinks in... THE PEOPLE THAT GET SUCCESFULLY SUICIDE-GANKED FOR THEIR LOOT AND ONLY FOR THEIR LOOT DESERVE IT. They are either stupid, sloppy, greedy, or any possible combination of those things. Those that get suicide-ganked "as revenge" by overwhelming force, when the attacker has (or better said, attackers have) no intention of making a profit from that in the first place... well, nothing you could have done here. _ [CNVTF] is recruiting \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained
Magnelien Caldari Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2007.09.30 16:50:00 - [103] Originally by: PauZotoh Zhaan Ok, this game become more and more pointless wit suicde gangs. becouse there;s no way to prevent them from happening and stupid gm responds that get a scout wont help you becouse they wont insta pop scouts. 2007.09.28 07:55 Victim: PauZotoh Zhaan Alliance: NONE Corp: Teylas Inc. Destroyed: Iteron Mark V System: Uedama Security: 0.5 Involved parties: Name: Syllvana (laid the final blow) Security: 1.1 Alliance: oooh Shiny Corp: Maza Nostra Ship: Armageddon Weapon: Mega Pulse Laser II and his friend in ... npc corp Tini'a took loot so explain me how to prevent from happening it? I had shield extenders, and dont tell me to get freighter. You can say im whining, but you would too if you lose stuff you worked hard for it for few weeks. And why best loot always survive when I die? You cant protest haulers in hi sec, they you can asweel change hi sec to low sec. Too bad I paid for my account for next 3 month, becouse I dont see point playing this game anymore. Oi if they want to sacrifice their ships its their decition and so be it... what are you gona do with the wardec's ? they are for the empire... are you gona remove their fun ? just so you can be "safe" in highsec... You say pointless... whats your mission in this game ? are you gona finish it ? it cant really be finished like most other games... but its about haveing fun, and stop whineing about someone who wants to loose his ship by ganking highsec ppl... -.-
Curzon Dax The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.30 17:48:00 - [104] If suicide gankers wouldn't get insurance for suicide ganking.... I would join the masses in laughing heartlessly at the victims.
Venec Rave Technologies Inc. YouWhat	Posted - 2007.09.30 17:58:00 - [105] baaawwwwwwww
Julius DarkWings The Burning Orphans Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.30 18:02:00 - [106] Originally by: Curzon Dax If suicide gankers wouldn't get insurance for suicide ganking.... I would join the masses in laughing heartlessly at the victims. I just laugh at silly people that whine! Also ganking these people is profitable without insurance. MUAHHHHHHHHAHHAHAHHHHH Jules
Snake Doctor Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.09.30 18:03:00 - [107] Motion to move to previous question... Rifter Flight Manual!
Achuramale	Posted - 2007.09.30 18:12:00 - [108] Originally by: Curzon Dax If suicide gankers wouldn't get insurance for suicide ganking.... I would join the masses in laughing heartlessly at the victims. I¦m all for removing insurance when Concord kills you if it shut ups the whiners. But the reason why suicide ganking is profitable isn't insurance its idiots flying hundreds of millions worth stuff afk and often in completely untanked t1 haulers. My last suicide kill was worth about 600mil, completely untanked itty 5 which I killed with my t1 brutix. Insurance I got - the cost of platinum insurance = about 15-20 mil isk I guess Only thing removing insurance is gonna hurt is ganking freighters which contrary to the whiners here is already million times harder to organize than solo ganking and 4/5 less profitable per member than just going out solo.
Cotton Tail Domination. League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.09.30 18:36:00 - [109] Flying around in a t1 hauler with parts of a slave implant set, ivention interfaces, over 100m in minerals + a whole load of salvage is never the best idea, you're just begging to be ganked if you don't take advantage of all the possible ways you're given to defend yourself. Sucks that you lost your stuff, but get over it and learn from your mistake.
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.30 18:50:00 - [110] Originally by: Achuramale Edited by: Achuramale on 30/09/2007 18:24:08 Originally by: Curzon Dax If suicide gankers wouldn't get insurance for suicide ganking.... I would join the masses in laughing heartlessly at the victims. I¦m all for removing insurance when Concord kills you if it shut ups the whiners. But the reason why suicide ganking is profitable isn't insurance its idiots flying hundreds of millions worth stuff afk and often in completely untanked t1 haulers. My last suicide kill was worth about 600mil, completely untanked itty 5 which I killed with my t1 brutix. Insurance I got - the cost of platinum insurance = about 15-20 mil isk I guess Only thing removing insurance is gonna hurt is ganking freighters which contrary to the whiners here is already million times harder to organize than solo ganking and 4 out of 5 times less profitable per member than just going out solo. In next week's episode: whiners find that removing insurance for concordokkers doesn't make them safe, and ask CCP to go round to your mom's house and shoot her. Adapt and overcome that! CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Entreri Finwe Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2007.09.30 20:32:00 - [111] Edited by: Entreri Finwe on 30/09/2007 20:32:15 Quote: 1. there is one death And cops don't kill robbers outright, not even murderers (unless it can't be avoided)... Quote: 2. pirates dont attack for ego This has nothing to do with this thread, all ganking discussed within are pirates attacking for money and shiny stuff... Quote: 3. known pirates are not allowed to just sit there (protected) by the police waiting for prey A robber that has been in prison, punished for a crime, can sit anywhere damn he wants... Quote: 4. known pirates dont get insurance claims paid on their loses when they fail at their job. The ingame insurance isn't really comperable (sp?) to a real life insurance... Quote: 5. pirates can estimate what exists in the hold of a ship, but can never really be sure. So? And? A mugger might see you take a nice pile of money out of the ATM but he can never be sure how much... Quote: 6. THERE ARE NO SPACESHIPS ON EARTH What about these? Originally by: jarack I de-synced in my bathroom once, now i have no where to wash my hands
Rudy Metallo The Bastards	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:22:00 - [112] Blockade runners cannot be killed by single suicide ganker. Unless you have 3 scrams in which case you cant lock it fast enough. But other than that, get over it. Say what?

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