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Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.09.30 20:51:00 - [1] I just bought a character for 14 billion isk, the character, now transfered to me has low security status, -3.9. This was not mentioned anywhere by the seller, the rules states he has to mention the security status, if i had known it was that low i wouldn't have bought it. Does anyone know what i can do now? I want my isk back.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.30 20:53:00 - [2] Not sure, but with that name and outfit, i have another business "proposal" for you hands over address But seriously, contact CCP, case goes as it goes. Nothing more really can be done. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.09.30 20:54:00 - [3] You could try selling that char for 15 billion Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking Originally by: TheDagda click For the love of the jovians stops necroing
ElCoCo KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.30 20:59:00 - [4] If you realy, realy want that char, then you can rat a bit. You should bring the sec upto -1,9 in a couple of days. However, if you want, it would be easy to file a petition since having a low sec status is bad for the char's price so you have grounds for getting scammed. Check your chatlogs again though... it might be "slightly" mentioned (I've seen it happen heh)...
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:02:00 - [5] Originally by: ElCoCo If you realy, realy want that char, then you can rat a bit. You should bring the sec upto -1,9 in a couple of days. However, if you want, it would be easy to file a petition since having a low sec status is bad for the char's price so you have grounds for getting scammed. Check your chatlogs again though... it might be "slightly" mentioned (I've seen it happen heh)... Nah he didn't mention it anywhere atall, shocked to log it in and see this, it's no good for me, i plan to use this character in empire space and i'm not about to spend a long time grinding it up. I also paid a lot more than it is worth considering the low status.
Die Unknown Amarr New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:05:00 - [6] Damn.. 14bil. How many SP do you get for that? Btw, don't honour tank you ship, mmkay? --------------------------------------------- I fit an Expanded Cargohold II on all my ships to hold my honour
Jojo Yohan Gallente Cskillzone DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:13:00 - [7] First off the rules do not state that he must mention the sec status, its more like a guideline. Sec status is public so if he did follow the rule that he must use the character being sold as the thread starter you should have checked. To be perfectly honest it was probably just an oversight by you. The best thing you can do if you don't want it is to sell it. -3.9 doesn't take that long to get up to -1.9.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:14:00 - [8] maybe the isk you used wasn't legit? so you don't want to ask CCP? also why would you use a 14bil isk sp character in high sec? your going to get very bored very fast.... it will take you like a year to grinding up 14 bil isk. that doesn't seem wroth it. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room...
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:15:00 - [9] nevermind, gm sorted it for me.
Jojo Yohan Gallente Cskillzone DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:20:00 - [10] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy nevermind, gm sorted it for me. Care to elaborate? I'm kind of hoping that he said **** off.
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:20:00 - [11] Originally by: Jojo Yohan Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy nevermind, gm sorted it for me. Care to elaborate? I'm kind of hoping that he said **** off. Let's just say everything was reversed.
Jojo Yohan Gallente Cskillzone DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:21:00 - [12] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Originally by: Jojo Yohan Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy nevermind, gm sorted it for me. Care to elaborate? I'm kind of hoping that he said ** off. Let's just say everything was reversed. Now lets just say that's bull**.
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:23:00 - [13] Originally by: Jojo Yohan Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Originally by: Jojo Yohan Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy nevermind, gm sorted it for me. Care to elaborate? I'm kind of hoping that he said ** off. Let's just say everything was reversed. Now lets just say that's bull**. Were you involved in the scam or something? You don't sell a character without mentioning the -3.9 security status, it's against the auction rules.
End Yourself Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:28:00 - [14] Edited by: End Yourself on 30/09/2007 21:28:19 Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Were you involved in the scam or something? You don't sell a character without mentioning the -3.9 security status, it's against the auction rules. Oh my grinding missions > brain cells --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Jojo Yohan Gallente Cskillzone DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:29:00 - [15] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Originally by: Jojo Yohan Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Originally by: Jojo Yohan Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy nevermind, gm sorted it for me. Care to elaborate? I'm kind of hoping that he said ** off. Let's just say everything was reversed. Now lets just say that's bull. Were you involved in the scam or something? You don't sell a character without mentioning the -3.9 security status, it's against the auction rules. Quote:** A) There are several things that buyers expect to be listed in character sales, these are: # The total number of skillpoints the character has and what is currently being training # The characters attributes and any implants you might have # Assets that are included in the sale # Location of the character # The characters security status, standings and loyalty points # Any killrights / bounty # Full breakdown of character skills (See below for details) That is the only place where it says sec status, and it is under guidelines. I sincerely doubt that every auction includes standings and loyalty points of every corp. I'm not involved in this or any other scam but this blatant bending of the rules because of your ignorance is absolutely stupid. If you did a show info on this character you could have seen his sec status. You decided not to.
000Hunter000 Gallente Magners Marauders	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:33:00 - [16] Erm.. and u did not check the char before purchase because?... CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
Jojo Yohan Gallente Cskillzone DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:38:00 - [17] Originally by: 000Hunter000 Erm.. and u did not check the char before purchase because?... Ignorance?
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:39:00 - [18] Trolls are out in force tonight.
Jojo Yohan Gallente Cskillzone DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:43:00 - [19] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Trolls are out in force tonight. Not a troll, just saying that you should have done your research. You obviously assumed that he had a positive sec status even though you didn't bother to check. The "rule" that was broken is not a rule. It is a set of encouraged guidelines. I think the GM made the wrong decision and I hope the owner decides to escalate the petition to someone more suited.
PKenO	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:47:00 - [20] Due to the investment involved, I can understand why CCP might be more lenient. But the other day I heard a shocker in alliance. A guy got his battleship moved to a 0.3 station by a GM after his corp's outpost fell to invaders. The scary thing is, he didn't seem to understand how that was a complete abuse of GM role. Oh boohoo, you can't dock? Don't dock at losable stations then! I suspect this occured back in the days of escrow, but still. Messed up.
000Hunter000 Gallente Magners Marauders	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:47:00 - [21] Hurray someone called me a troll CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:50:00 - [22] I think CCP should make it so you can only be a GM if you over 1 year old and have a sec status of less than -5.5. It shows that the person really understands Eve and won't take any of this stupid crap. Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking Originally by: TheDagda click For the love of the jovians stops necroing
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:51:00 - [23] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 30/09/2007 21:51:31 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny I think CCP should make it so you can only be a GM if you over 1 year old and have a sec status of less than -5.5. It shows that the person really understands Eve and won't take any of this stupid crap. Hmh. Yeah 'cause we all know the "real" players and "adults" are in the pewpew section of the game Or was that "the first people to judge others are in the pewpew", oh well. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Adm Tecumseh Caldari The Templars Knights	Posted - 2007.10.01 01:16:00 - [24] I am confident that sec status is supposed to be disclosed in the thread as well as wallet balance and known killrights etc. If this is the case and the sec status wasn't disclosed then it violates the rules and CCP will have to reverse the transaction.
Starfired	Posted - 2007.10.01 01:20:00 - [25] Edited by: Starfired on 01/10/2007 01:20:24 I'm inclined to believe it's your own fault for not asking. Besidies -3.9 is high, you could have gotten stuck with -10, or near it.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.01 02:03:00 - [26] holy crud, I just checked your posting history, you have spent nearly 30 bil buying characters in the last week, nothing says isk buyer like a loose alt 1987.08.31 00:29:09 Combat Your Smooth Criminal perfectly strikes Annie, wrecking for A Crescendo.
Dr Ming Mindworks	Posted - 2007.10.01 02:13:00 - [27] Since you sound new, I'll give you a spot of advice. Some of the best ship setups require using weapons from other races. I'd strongly suggest that you make sure to buy a character that can fly Ravens and use T2 large beam lasers. Laser Ravens are amazingly overpowered right now.
vile56 Nubs. D-L	Posted - 2007.10.01 02:40:00 - [28] i lost a ship to a guy that had -3.9 sec status do i get my ship back? cause had i know he was -3.9 i would have docked -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sig removed. Is in appropriate for the forums. mail us with a link if you want to know why -Kaemonn ([email protected])
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.10.01 03:34:00 - [29] Originally by: Jojo Yohan That is the only place where it says sec status, and it is under guidelines. I sincerely doubt that every auction includes standings and loyalty points of every corp. I'm not involved in this or any other scam but this blatant bending of the rules because of your ignorance is absolutely stupid. If you did a show info on this character you could have seen his sec status. You decided not to. Quoted for absolute freaking truth that hurts the OP badly. _ Caldari N.V.T.F. is recruiting...
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.10.01 05:02:00 - [30] Originally by: Dr Ming Since you sound new, I'll give you a spot of advice. Some of the best ship setups require using weapons from other races. I'd strongly suggest that you make sure to buy a character that can fly Ravens and use T2 large beam lasers. Laser Ravens are amazingly overpowered right now. Ming speaks the truth. Load up the lows with damage mods and the mids with some good ewar gear, and you've pretty much got a solo God ship. I'd suggest a CNR and faction mods if you really wanna eke out every last bit of DPS.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.10.01 05:20:00 - [31] As for the ewar, obviously, target painters. They totally pwn. I mean, the best named target painter initials spell PWNAGE, how much more of an obvious hint can you get ? _ Caldari N.V.T.F. is recruiting...
Ungdall Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.01 05:23:00 - [32] Thread redeemed would read again A+++
Xaldor	Posted - 2007.10.01 06:25:00 - [33] Originally by: Dr Ming Since you sound new, I'll give you a spot of advice. Some of the best ship setups require using weapons from other races. I'd strongly suggest that you make sure to buy a character that can fly Ravens and use T2 large beam lasers. Laser Ravens are amazingly overpowered right now. lol WTF?! Why would you stick lasers on a Raven when the ship bonuses are for missiles?!
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.10.01 06:27:00 - [34] Originally by: Xaldor Originally by: Dr Ming Since you sound new, I'll give you a spot of advice. Some of the best ship setups require using weapons from other races. I'd strongly suggest that you make sure to buy a character that can fly Ravens and use T2 large beam lasers. Laser Ravens are amazingly overpowered right now. lol WTF?! Why would you stick lasers on a Raven when the ship bonuses are for missiles?! Because it's unexpected, and lasers are overpowered. Duh. I used to get It. Then It changed. Now I don't even know what It is.
Krist Valentine Amarr Freelancing Opportunists	Posted - 2007.10.01 06:47:00 - [35] Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Xaldor Originally by: Dr Ming Since you sound new, I'll give you a spot of advice. Some of the best ship setups require using weapons from other races. I'd strongly suggest that you make sure to buy a character that can fly Ravens and use T2 large beam lasers. Laser Ravens are amazingly overpowered right now. lol WTF?! Why would you stick lasers on a Raven when the ship bonuses are for missiles?! Because it's unexpected, and lasers are overpowered. Duh. Yeah, it's really pretty obvious when you think about it. Although I do much prefer my Dual Light Pulse Laser II Megathron - it's absolutely ******* perfect for owning frigs. - - - - - Hey, it's obscene and it's green and it's automatic - I know how to make it seem like it's your fault.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.10.01 06:50:00 - [36] Everybody knows siege-mode Moros with civilian rails and Hornet IIs is the true frigate killer _ Caldari N.V.T.F. is recruiting...
Kayna Eelai	Posted - 2007.10.01 07:08:00 - [37] OP is obviously a ISK ebay buyer, a noob, blind, stupid, a liar or all of em together.
Digital Solaris Latrocinium Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.01 07:18:00 - [38] Originally by: Kayna Eelai OP is obviously a ISK ebay buyer, a noob, blind, stupid, a liar or all of em together. Yet he provide quality entertainment!
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 09:05:00 - [39] I've never bought any isk in my life. I've also played EVE long enough to make most of you trolls look like noobs.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2007.10.01 09:10:00 - [40] imo the least I would have done if buying a char is to "show info" on it beofore the purchase, no matter if the seller say character has this or that security status or has standing X or Y towards Z. Good it worked out though but really a matter for the customer support if any. Did you find Chribba's LoveCan ?

Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 09:11:00 - [41] Originally by: Tortun Nahme holy crud, I just checked your posting history, you have spent nearly 30 bil buying characters in the last week, nothing says isk buyer like a loose alt You "checked" this did you? How did you come to this conclusion? I bought one character for 14 bill and due to an issue the transaction was reversed. I also bought another character for 10 bill. 14 + 10 - 14 = 30? Your math rules.
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 09:18:00 - [42] Originally by: MITSUK0 wow 14bil, does it have: I Win lvl5? 14 bill isn't much to be honest with you, but i can see how a noob might think it is.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.10.01 09:20:00 - [43] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy I've never bought any isk in my life. I've also played EVE long enough to make most of you trolls look like noobs. Well I've played EVE since 1999, so there. (Really, wag your e-peen any harder and it'll fall off.)
Lord MuffloN Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.10.01 09:20:00 - [44] I agree to the "trolls" here Wendy Mcbendy is an idiot for not checking it him/herself and shouldn't have gotten back the money. Originally by: Jago Kain If they ever decide to award a Nobel Prize for Emo, Lord MuffloN is a sure fire winner of the first on
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 09:20:00 - [45] Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy I've never bought any isk in my life. I've also played EVE long enough to make most of you trolls look like noobs. Well I've played EVE since 1999, so there. (Really, wag your e-peen any harder and it'll fall off.) Sure you have.
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 09:24:00 - [46] Forum mods, feel free to lock this troll-infested post, there's no need for the trolling to continue.
flexd Caldari The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.01 09:36:00 - [47] Rat? Stop nerfing my sig you bastards! =[
Some Caldari Caldari Shadow Warrioz	Posted - 2007.10.01 09:42:00 - [48] Money > Sense? ------------ Originally by: Banana Torres Gurls are overrated, they nick your money and hurt your ears. Just so you can have limited access to their soft and squishy bits.
Buyerr	Posted - 2007.10.01 09:46:00 - [49] some one tryid to scam got busted and payid. that's about it. don't be a ***head that is the moral of the story. every post in this tread after the "gm sorted it". shouldn't be here. sits back and waits for lock*
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.10.01 10:04:00 - [50] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy I've never bought any isk in my life. I've also played EVE long enough to make most of you trolls look like noobs. Are you ladiesman217?
Haakon Jarl Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.10.01 10:09:00 - [51] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Forum mods, feel free to lock this troll-infested post, there's no need for the trolling to continue. Ebayer alert! In it for the state
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 10:27:00 - [52] Originally by: Haakon Jarl Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Forum mods, feel free to lock this troll-infested post, there's no need for the trolling to continue. Ebayer alert! The GM's can feel free to fully look through my wallet and all related characters wallets. They probably did so anyway considering what just happend with the 14 billion isk. I am requesting that a mod locks this thread because it is now constantly being trolled.
RigelKentaurus Flying Reblochons Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2007.10.01 10:33:00 - [53] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy I am requesting that a mod locks this thread because it is now constantly being trolled. What did you expect after claiming it was a scam, although you were the one making the mistake here. _________ Someday, EVE might look like this.
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 10:36:00 - [54] Originally by: RigelKentaurus Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy I am requesting that a mod locks this thread because it is now constantly being trolled. What did you expect after claiming it was a scam, although you were the one making the mistake here. Really? I claimed it was a scam? Do you just make this stuff up in your head or what? I'm absolutely certain I never claimed it was a scam. I also made a point to the GM when i petitioned that I didn't think it was a scam but just someone who made an error in not listing the sec status, so therefore i hope he doesn't get punished as a scammer.
RigelKentaurus Flying Reblochons Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2007.10.01 10:38:00 - [55] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Were you involved in the scam or something? You don't sell a character without mentioning the -3.9 security status, it's against the auction rules. Quoted so that you can't edit it. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=605252&page=1#13 _________ Someday, EVE might look like this.
level80uberruler	Posted - 2007.10.01 10:41:00 - [56] Edited by: level80uberruler on 01/10/2007 10:41:07 Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Really? I claimed it was a scam? And people claim you ebay because you spend 14 bill without actually looking at what you are buying. No one spends 14 bill without looking.
Sirial Soulfly	Posted - 2007.10.01 10:42:00 - [57] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Originally by: RigelKentaurus Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy I am requesting that a mod locks this thread because it is now constantly being trolled. What did you expect after claiming it was a scam, although you were the one making the mistake here. Really? I claimed it was a scam? Do you just make this stuff up in your head or what? I'm absolutely certain I never claimed it was a scam. I also made a point to the GM when i petitioned that I didn't think it was a scam but just someone who made an error in not listing the sec status, so therefore i hope he doesn't get punished as a scammer. Every post you make makes you look more stupid
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.10.01 10:44:00 - [58] Edited by: Amarria Black on 01/10/2007 10:44:13 Originally by: RigelKentaurus Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Were you involved in the scam or something? You don't sell a character without mentioning the -3.9 security status, it's against the auction rules. Quoted so that you can't edit it. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=605252&page=1#13 Aaaaand that's an owning. Can't e-peen wag your way out of this one, Wendy. Oh, and post with your recently purchased main.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.10.01 10:45:00 - [59] Well, you DID claim it's "in the rules", when it's actually just in the "recommended guidelines". You also made the mistake of not checking it yourself, when it would have been trivial to. THEN you appealed to a GM to reverse YOUR mistake's effects, sugar-coated it nicely so it works, and he reverted the transaction. I just hope he ALSO reverted the 20$ charge made to the other player. ___ This is akin to somebody accidentally entering an extra zero in a buy order, or falling for a WTB contract scam with negative ISK, or any other numbers of things where YOU make a mistake and you "pay" for it... AND afterwards petitioning it to get it returned, and worst, GETTING it returned. That's why people are angry at you. For getting extra-nice treatment when you didn't deserve it. Well, you could say they're jealous, but that's going to far. The GM shouldn't have reverted the transaction, as it was entirely your fault. You should have been forced to live with the consequences, yet you got preferential treatment just because you could talk your way out of it and impress a weak-willed GM. _ Caldari N.V.T.F. is recruiting...
Izo Azlion Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.10.01 10:53:00 - [60] Just like the common cold, there is no cure for stupidity. OP shouldnt have gotten their money back. Infact, if I had GM powers, I'd have just lowered the characters sec by another 1.0 every time they complained. be nice having to NPC back from -10, wouldnt it? Still, whats done is done. Izo Azlion. ---
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 11:01:00 - [61] Originally by: RigelKentaurus Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Were you involved in the scam or something? You don't sell a character without mentioning the -3.9 security status, it's against the auction rules. Quoted so that you can't edit it. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=605252&page=1#13 That was just to get at the troll to be honest, he trolled me, i trolled him back. Doesn't make any difference since i made sure to tell the gm i didn't think it was a scam and i also didn't say it was a scam in my OP.
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 11:02:00 - [62] Originally by: level80uberruler Edited by: level80uberruler on 01/10/2007 10:41:07 Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Really? I claimed it was a scam? And people claim you ebay because you spend 14 bill without actually looking at what you are buying. No one spends 14 bill without looking. I'm sorry to hear that you think that way, i guess it's hard when you're poor to understand how someone could have so much isk that they could spend 14 bill without checking that.
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 11:03:00 - [63] Oooh look i make a slight error and all the spectator trolls come flooding from the waterworks to say there bit, typical.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.10.01 11:04:00 - [64] Edited by: Akita T on 01/10/2007 11:08:05 So, you admitted you made a mistake and nicely asked for your money back, and the GM was just the right amount of stupid+nice to give it back to you... does that about cover it ? Oh, and you were ignorant enough to NOT know this shouldn't have happened and gladly advertised the successfull reversion of the process in the forum, for everybody to see.... basically, flaunting your preferential treatment by the GM. If you got special treatment, you might as well just shut up about it. I wouldn't be surprised if this gets escalated by somebody to Internal Affairs, and you get the character back and ISK gone again. No, I won't be the one petitioning this to IA, I'm not evil enough. But some of the people you annoyed with your attitude in here just might. _ Caldari N.V.T.F. is recruiting...
annoing Amarr	Posted - 2007.10.01 11:08:00 - [65] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy I'm sorry to hear that you think that way, i guess it's hard when you're poor to understand how someone could have so much isk that they could spend 14 bill without checking that. And as you have so much isk that 14bil is nothing, why the hell are you in here whining about it? Someone as rich as you can go and make another 14bil in a few minutes and buy another one on ebay...ooops meant forums.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.10.01 11:09:00 - [66] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy That was just to get at the troll to be honest, he trolled me, i trolled him back. Doesn't make any difference since i made sure to tell the gm i didn't think it was a scam and i also didn't say it was a scam in my OP. The "just kidding" defense stops being applicable when you turn 7. So either your mother should be monitoring your internet use and probably shouldn't be allowing you to play EVE, or you're going to have to do better than that. Fess up. You spent a few hundred on eBay. That's the only way you'd be flippantly throwing around 14 bil ISK while simultaneously being capable of forming full sentences.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.10.01 11:12:00 - [67] Does it really matter where the money came from ? I say screw that, it doesn't. Oh, I get it, we're talking about that so we don't have to discuss GM actions. Which is not allowed. Kind of. Right ? _ Caldari N.V.T.F. is recruiting...
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.10.01 11:17:00 - [68] Can someone petition this to IA? Im at work so I cant. Call to arms!!!
Scott Ryder Infestation.	Posted - 2007.10.01 11:28:00 - [69] you failed, you should have checked the sec status before buying. Its no rule that says that the seller must provide info on low sec status. Its a guideline
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 11:41:00 - [70] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 01/10/2007 11:09:30 So, you admitted you made a mistake and nicely asked for your money back, and the GM was just the right amount of stupid+nice to give it back to you... does that about cover it ? Oh, and you were ignorant enough to NOT know this shouldn't have happened and gladly advertised the successfull reversion of the process in the forum, for everybody to see.... basically, flaunting your preferential treatment by the GM. If you got special treatment, you might as well just shut up about it. I wouldn't be surprised if this gets escalated by somebody to Internal Affairs, and you get the character back and ISK gone again. No, I won't be the one petitioning this to IA, I'm not evil enough. But some of the people you annoyed with your attitude in here just might. Technically, the GM didn't make a mistake, he just bent the rules in your favor. But rule bending can be a tricky thing to do, especially with the recent scandals. If a character has low security status and you are selling it i expect you to mention it, since it was not mentioned i didn't think there was an issue, there was several characters i was choosing between which didn't help. The seller should have noted the bad sec status and this wouldn't have happend.
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 11:44:00 - [71] Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy That was just to get at the troll to be honest, he trolled me, i trolled him back. Doesn't make any difference since i made sure to tell the gm i didn't think it was a scam and i also didn't say it was a scam in my OP. The "just kidding" defense stops being applicable when you turn 7. So either your mother should be monitoring your internet use and probably shouldn't be allowing you to play EVE, or you're going to have to do better than that. Fess up. You spent a few hundred on eBay. That's the only way you'd be flippantly throwing around 14 bil ISK while simultaneously being capable of forming full sentences. If anyone buys isk on ebay it's probably you, you seem hellbent obsessed with the terms "isk and ebay", probably need to make yourself feel better about your isk buying by trying to make out that everyone else does it also.
Kalazar Amarr Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.10.01 11:53:00 - [72] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 01/10/2007 11:09:30 So, you admitted you made a mistake and nicely asked for your money back, and the GM was just the right amount of stupid+nice to give it back to you... does that about cover it ? Oh, and you were ignorant enough to NOT know this shouldn't have happened and gladly advertised the successfull reversion of the process in the forum, for everybody to see.... basically, flaunting your preferential treatment by the GM. If you got special treatment, you might as well just shut up about it. I wouldn't be surprised if this gets escalated by somebody to Internal Affairs, and you get the character back and ISK gone again. No, I won't be the one petitioning this to IA, I'm not evil enough. But some of the people you annoyed with your attitude in here just might. Technically, the GM didn't make a mistake, he just bent the rules in your favor. But rule bending can be a tricky thing to do, especially with the recent scandals. If a character has low security status and you are selling it i expect you to mention it, since it was not mentioned i didn't think there was an issue, there was several characters i was choosing between which didn't help. The seller should have noted the bad sec status and this wouldn't have happend. Why? So that you wouldn't have to gasp go INGAME and check the character's security status before spending 14bil on it (which you obviously care about, seeing as you petitioned to get it back). I don't care where you got the ISK from. Fact remains you shouldn't have got it back for your own idiocy. I hope the poor bugger who sold you that character gets their (real life) money back for the transfer fee. Did you think of that before coming crying to the forums and squealing "Scam! Scam! I'll have to spend a weekend 0.0 ratting up my sec status from -3.9!"? Probably not, you just sat there feeling self-righteous. And then of course you have the audacity to cry "troll" when people call you out on your own mistakes. Personally I'd have just told you to stop being a 'tard and actually check what you're spending your 14bil on next time. ----------------------------------------------
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.10.01 12:06:00 - [73] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy If a character has low security status and you are selling it i expect you to mention it, since it was not mentioned i didn't think there was an issue, there was several characters i was choosing between which didn't help. The seller should have noted the bad sec status and this wouldn't have happend. Have you SAID character security rating is an issue in that auction ? I doubt it ! Has he intentionally hidden the security status ? Maybe yes, maybe no, we'll never know. Were you dissapointed that something wasn't as you THOUGHT it would be ? Yes. Was it mandatory to mention ? No. Were any rules broken ? No. Could you have checked the sec status yourself at any time ? Yes. Have you ? No. Your mistake ? Yes. Should you be refunded for your mistake ? No. Were you refunded for your mistake ? Yes. See the problem ? Apparently, no. _ Caldari N.V.T.F. is recruiting...
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 12:26:00 - [74] Guide to Selling and Buying Characters for ISK [READ ME FIRST] There are new Rules for trading characters for isk. Q) Ok, I have chosen, what else do i need? The characters security status, standings and loyalty points Now that's sorted, you can find another thread to continue getting your jollies from, i know the trolls here need to constantly search out new threads where they can get involved in something that is totally nothing to do with them, make arguments and try to make a winz0r every now and then, this is your daily highlight afterall. Have fun trolling.
Panthothen principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.01 12:29:00 - [75] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Guide to Selling and Buying Characters for ISK [READ ME FIRST] There are new Rules for trading characters for isk. Q) Ok, I have chosen, what else do i need? The characters security status, standings and loyalty points Now that's sorted, you can find another thread to continue getting your jollies from, i know the trolls here need to constantly search out new threads where they can get involved in something that is totally nothing to do with them, make arguments and try to make a winz0r every now and then, this is your daily highlight afterall. Have fun trolling. And i suppose your sooo above everyone else here?
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2007.10.01 12:29:00 - [76] People buying characters have no character and deserve to feel cheated by default.
Talmssar Caldari Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2007.10.01 12:30:00 - [77] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Originally by: level80uberruler Edited by: level80uberruler on 01/10/2007 10:41:07 Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Really? I claimed it was a scam? And people claim you ebay because you spend 14 bill without actually looking at what you are buying. No one spends 14 bill without looking. I'm sorry to hear that you think that way, i guess it's hard when you're poor to understand how someone could have so much isk that they could spend 14 bill without checking that.[/q] You must be just stupid then if you dont check out where you spend 14b. If I would be drunk and went after some stupid decisions, should I get compensated as I was inresponsible state of condition? And is that state bad as stupidy as you got compensated.. No,I¦m not jealous or something, it is just wrong how other people do not see ruling to be same for all. -they read rules when they suit for em- I just prefer that all have good time here.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.10.01 12:44:00 - [78] Things you MUST list are things that the buyer has no way of checking, namely exact character name (and ID), skills and ISK balance. You CAN list things like implants plugged into various clones or LPs with corps, to justify an increase in price. You WILL be punished if you lie about any of the above to get MORE ISK for a character, based on that lie. Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Guide to Selling and Buying Characters for ISK [READ ME FIRST] Note the use of the word "MUST" in the initial section (i.e. things you HAVE to do) vs. things you could add to an auction text, things that the buyer MIGHT want to know, so you don't have to ANSWER to his questions when/if he asks them. Even if he WILLINGLY failed to mention his security status there, he was still breaking no rules, as security status can be easily verified (since he WAS forced to post character name, and from that you can view his sec. status)... and there is no justification for your refund getting granted. _ Caldari N.V.T.F. is recruiting...
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 13:06:00 - [79] What is it with trolls on the EVE forums being absolutely intent to stir up trouble? The seller accepts what happend as long as he gets refunded for the character transfer, he'll then reauction the character and transfer it again, so CCP would be losing nothing and he loses nothing, problem solved. I also think they should add the security status thing into the offical rules so things like this don't happen again.
Logi3 Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.10.01 13:11:00 - [80] This thread made me laugh! ----
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.10.01 13:13:00 - [81] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy up trouble? The seller accepts what happend as long as he gets refunded for the character transfer So why didn't you SAY so from the start ? That changes *EVERYTHING* ! _ Caldari N.V.T.F. is recruiting...
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.01 13:18:00 - [82] Honestly, I could care less about the seller or the GMs or what they do. It is just fun to make fun of you for being so stupidly pathetic. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 13:26:00 - [83] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy up trouble? The seller accepts what happend as long as he gets refunded for the character transfer So why didn't you SAY so from the start ? That changes *EVERYTHING* ! Some of the trolls from this thread already found the sell order thread where the seller said this so they already know, which brings me back to what i said, this thread is full of trolls intent on stiring up trouble, perhaps they are children or perhaps they have their own real life issues, who knows.
Von Richtofen Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.10.01 13:35:00 - [84] If you grow your character and play the game instead of ebaying and skipping the learning process, you learn this little trick called "show info" (the "ratting" and "missioning" tricks are a little more advanced, but in time you'll figure it out).
Azia Burgi Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2007.10.01 13:42:00 - [85] This sounds very very suspect. Also you need to learn to not rise to the bait. If you weren't trolling back the trolling would stop and thus this thread would vanish off the front page and into obscurity. Next you fancy handing out 14 billion willynilly please remember us poor carebears and donate the ISK to a worthy cause like... me. Azia Burgi http://azia.geekandproud.co.uk BP Profit Calculator
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 13:42:00 - [86] Originally by: Von Richtofen If you grow your character and play the game instead of ebaying and skipping the learning process, you learn this little trick called "show info" (the "ratting" and "missioning" tricks are a little more advanced, but in time you'll figure it out). I've played EVE since release, you learn this little trick called "posting with an alt character" however it is very advanced, but in time you will figure it out.
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 13:44:00 - [87] Originally by: Azia Burgi This sounds very very suspect. Also you need to learn to not rise to the bait. If you weren't trolling back the trolling would stop and thus this thread would vanish off the front page and into obscurity. Next you fancy handing out 14 billion willynilly please remember us poor carebears and donate the ISK to a worthy cause like... me. One time i admit i shouldn't have risen to the bait, it was on the first page before all the trolling started, the guy who said "i hope the gm told you to f*** off" - I should have ignored him, oh well, now he can get his loljollies from trolling here.
MrBadidea Caldari The Children of Lilith	Posted - 2007.10.01 13:48:00 - [88] Originally by: Kalazar Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 01/10/2007 11:09:30 So, you admitted you made a mistake and nicely asked for your money back, and the GM was just the right amount of stupid+nice to give it back to you... does that about cover it ? Oh, and you were ignorant enough to NOT know this shouldn't have happened and gladly advertised the successfull reversion of the process in the forum, for everybody to see.... basically, flaunting your preferential treatment by the GM. If you got special treatment, you might as well just shut up about it. I wouldn't be surprised if this gets escalated by somebody to Internal Affairs, and you get the character back and ISK gone again. No, I won't be the one petitioning this to IA, I'm not evil enough. But some of the people you annoyed with your attitude in here just might. Technically, the GM didn't make a mistake, he just bent the rules in your favor. But rule bending can be a tricky thing to do, especially with the recent scandals. If a character has low security status and you are selling it i expect you to mention it, since it was not mentioned i didn't think there was an issue, there was several characters i was choosing between which didn't help. The seller should have noted the bad sec status and this wouldn't have happend. Why? So that you wouldn't have to gasp go INGAME and check the character's security status before spending 14bil on it (which you obviously care about, seeing as you petitioned to get it back). I don't care where you got the ISK from. Fact remains you shouldn't have got it back for your own idiocy. I hope the poor bugger who sold you that character gets their (real life) money back for the transfer fee. Did you think of that before coming crying to the forums and squealing "Scam! Scam! I'll have to spend a weekend 0.0 ratting up my sec status from -3.9!"? Probably not, you just sat there feeling self-righteous. And then of course you have the audacity to cry "troll" when people call you out on your own mistakes. Personally I'd have just told you to stop being a 'tard and actually check what you're spending your 14bil on next time. This is what (possibly) annoys me most. The fact of the matter is, somebody didn't bother checking the Sec Status of the character, nor asking the seller. You petitioned. You got your ISK back. Thing is, the guy selling the character probably didn't get his transfer fee back, and most likely now has lost that character to a ban on the account it was transferred from. --- MrBadidea's ePeen strikes YOUR EGO Wrecking for EMOCIDE
Savant Hayt	Posted - 2007.10.01 13:53:00 - [89] According to OP. troll/trolling is the new marklar. How many times can you use that word in the same sentence? hah
Felysta Sandorn Caldari System-Lords Insurgency	Posted - 2007.10.01 14:04:00 - [90] The person selling a character is not obliged to show his security status, it is merely a suggestion, and added as an item people want to know when buying characters. When making the purchase, you obviously didn't want to know the security status of the character, else you would have asked. If you believed the character sale to be a scam, you would not have entered in to bidding in the first place. An intelligent person who was interested in the character would have asked the question 'What security status is the character in question?' Had the seller then responded saying it was above -1.9, then you would be right in petitioning for your money back. You did no such thing however, therefore should not have the right to demand reimbursement... It's like buying a film, then taking it back to the store saying 'Yeah, I bought this film yesterday and watched it, but you didn't tell me it had cars in it. I don't like cars and therefore demand my money back.' Your behaviour in this matter is disgraceful, as is the decision by the GM that reimbursed you. Personally, if I were a GM, I would have responded with the following: "The seller is not obliged to show his security status, it is your duty to look it up before purchase. If you do not like what you have purchased with your ISK, I suggest you take it up with the seller. Our hands are tied in this matter and we cannot reimburse your ISK." Also, having played the game as long as you say you have, you undoubtedly have access to deep 0.0 or a high quality level 4 agent in a lowsec area where you can get your security status up to -1.9 in a day or two. The way you resorted straight to whining however is pathetic, and shows that you're a spoilt little child (also evident in the way you speak to other forum members). The fact that you do not post with your main also shows that you know this and don't want to get berated by your corp mates. If your character(s) were in my corp, I would kick you as soon as I could. I emplore the GMs to look on this case with some scrutiny and perhaps change their minds from the clearly mistaken decision they first made. Latest Video, Click Here!
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Elite	Posted - 2007.10.01 14:08:00 - [91] Wendy is a bobalt, he is allowed to get help from the GMs. My 2 pennies. Welcome to EvE
Wendy Mcbendy	Posted - 2007.10.01 14:10:00 - [92] Originally by: MrBadidea Originally by: Kalazar Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 01/10/2007 11:09:30 So, you admitted you made a mistake and nicely asked for your money back, and the GM was just the right amount of stupid+nice to give it back to you... does that about cover it ? Oh, and you were ignorant enough to NOT know this shouldn't have happened and gladly advertised the successfull reversion of the process in the forum, for everybody to see.... basically, flaunting your preferential treatment by the GM. If you got special treatment, you might as well just shut up about it. I wouldn't be surprised if this gets escalated by somebody to Internal Affairs, and you get the character back and ISK gone again. No, I won't be the one petitioning this to IA, I'm not evil enough. But some of the people you annoyed with your attitude in here just might. Technically, the GM didn't make a mistake, he just bent the rules in your favor. But rule bending can be a tricky thing to do, especially with the recent scandals. If a character has low security status and you are selling it i expect you to mention it, since it was not mentioned i didn't think there was an issue, there was several characters i was choosing between which didn't help. The seller should have noted the bad sec status and this wouldn't have happend. Why? So that you wouldn't have to gasp go INGAME and check the character's security status before spending 14bil on it (which you obviously care about, seeing as you petitioned to get it back). I don't care where you got the ISK from. Fact remains you shouldn't have got it back for your own idiocy. I hope the poor bugger who sold you that character gets their (real life) money back for the transfer fee. Did you think of that before coming crying to the forums and squealing "Scam! Scam! I'll have to spend a weekend 0.0 ratting up my sec status from -3.9!"? Probably not, you just sat there feeling self-righteous. And then of course you have the audacity to cry "troll" when people call you out on your own mistakes. Personally I'd have just told you to stop being a 'tard and actually check what you're spending your 14bil on next time. This is what (possibly) annoys me most. The fact of the matter is, somebody didn't bother checking the Sec Status of the character, nor asking the seller. You petitioned. You got your ISK back. Thing is, the guy selling the character probably didn't get his transfer fee back, and most likely now has lost that character to a ban on the account it was transferred from. If the character is banned and it is back on his account then tell me how is he selling it again? I specifically said to the GM that i didn't think it was a scam but just someone who forgot.
Kayna Eelai	Posted - 2007.10.01 14:11:00 - [93] Edited by: Kayna Eelai on 01/10/2007 14:14:23 Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Originally by: MITSUK0 wow 14bil, does it have: I Win lvl5? 14 bill isn't much to be honest with you, but i can see how a noob might think it is. probably coz noobs dont buy ISK on ebay you prooved how stupid you are when you spend X billions on something without even checking first with a simple "right click->show info" or maybe... maybe you actually DID check, but hoped to trick CCP to change your security rating for you, with some lame excuse, but the in the end the only thing you got was a "rollback". oh and PS: if you claim to be so OMG PRO and play since release... have the balls to post on your main (not a ebayed one please), otherwise just STFU.
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2007.10.01 14:28:00 - [94] Are you the guy who made the decision to hand Northern Rock a "Get Out Of Trouble Free" card?
Limp Wrist	Posted - 2007.10.01 14:32:00 - [95] its me, im da isk buyer in da op
Nicho Void Gallente Hyper-Nova	Posted - 2007.10.01 14:47:00 - [96] It's page four, but I can't resist. 1. Stop buying characters, you sad pathetic man. Play the ******* game for yourself. 2. I'm willing to bet this character you bought was used as a suicide ganking alt. ---------------
MITSUK0	Posted - 2007.10.01 14:53:00 - [97] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy Originally by: MITSUK0 wow 14bil, does it have: I Win lvl5? 14 bill isn't much to be honest with you, but i can see how a noob might think it is. lol I was being sarcastic dear a little jab at you trying to buy your way to the top:) Plus how many noobs have RnD alts like mitsuk0 here? If 14bil is not much to you why are you *****ing? Just buy another char for a stupidly inflated price.
Drykor Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.01 15:06:00 - [98] Originally by: Felysta Sandorn The person selling a character is not obliged to show his security status, it is merely a suggestion, and added as an item people want to know when buying characters. When making the purchase, you obviously didn't want to know the security status of the character, else you would have asked. If you believed the character sale to be a scam, you would not have entered in to bidding in the first place. An intelligent person who was interested in the character would have asked the question 'What security status is the character in question?' Had the seller then responded saying it was above -1.9, then you would be right in petitioning for your money back. You did no such thing however, therefore should not have the right to demand reimbursement... It's like buying a film, then taking it back to the store saying 'Yeah, I bought this film yesterday and watched it, but you didn't tell me it had cars in it. I don't like cars and therefore demand my money back.' Your behaviour in this matter is disgraceful, as is the decision by the GM that reimbursed you. Personally, if I were a GM, I would have responded with the following: "The seller is not obliged to show his security status, it is your duty to look it up before purchase. If you do not like what you have purchased with your ISK, I suggest you take it up with the seller. Our hands are tied in this matter and we cannot reimburse your ISK." Also, having played the game as long as you say you have, you undoubtedly have access to deep 0.0 or a high quality level 4 agent in a lowsec area where you can get your security status up to -1.9 in a day or two. The way you resorted straight to whining however is pathetic, and shows that you're a spoilt little child (also evident in the way you speak to other forum members). The fact that you do not post with your main also shows that you know this and don't want to get berated by your corp mates. If your character(s) were in my corp, I would kick you as soon as I could. I emplore the GMs to look on this case with some scrutiny and perhaps change their minds from the clearly mistaken decision they first made. QFE
Tharsgaard Caldari Fukd up Beyond all Reckognition	Posted - 2007.10.01 15:09:00 - [99] Shtposting in an epic shtpost ---------------
Tanaka Atsuko Gallente Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2007.10.01 17:42:00 - [100] ha ha being a pirate is fun tho empire sucks any way . GET AN ALT lol or pretend your an isk farmer and get a cloaking logoffski raven . i suggest you ask goons goe good prices on logoffski ravens they seem to have alot Drizzt Do'Urden will pwn joo
Athiven SkyWolf	Posted - 2007.10.01 18:46:00 - [101] Edited by: Athiven SkyWolf on 01/10/2007 18:47:05 in a few weeks she will come whining that she bought another but that she was not knowing people buying chars don't get much consideration and are still seen as newbies and will ask trade to be reversed. Don't ask her to post with her main, this is what she tries to buy...
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.01 19:29:00 - [102] Originally by: Athiven SkyWolf Edited by: Athiven SkyWolf on 01/10/2007 18:47:05 in a few weeks she will come whining that she bought another but that she was not knowing people buying chars don't get much consideration and are still seen as newbies and will ask trade to be reversed. Don't ask her to post with her main, this is what she tries to buy... I'm betting on another "TRICKED AND KILD BY LOFTY29" thread... CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.02 00:51:00 - [103] op of the auction thread did NOT say he was ok with it, he told you to **** off for trolling his auction thread 1987.08.31 00:29:09 Combat Your Smooth Criminal perfectly strikes Annie, wrecking for A Crescendo.
vile56 Nubs. D-L	Posted - 2007.10.02 01:36:00 - [104] Originally by: Wendy Mcbendy I also think they should add the security status thing into the offical rules so things like this don't happen again. yes /signed how dare they expect us to 'show info' vagabonds,ruffians,republicans thats what they are -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sig removed. Is in appropriate for the forums. mail us with a link if you want to know why -Kaemonn ([email protected])
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2007.10.02 01:43:00 - [105] Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 02/10/2007 01:46:56 Originally by: Akita T As for the ewar, obviously, target painters. They totally pwn. I mean, the best named target painter initials spell PWNAGE, how much more of an obvious hint can you get ? I don't care about the rest of the topic, I totally didn't know this, and I've used them for a year and a half now. omfg,, I lol'ed in RL. Just double checked, the others also make up PWN, PWNT and PWND Uh,,, carry on,,, Improve Market Competition!
Nicocat Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.10.02 14:49:00 - [106] Support for sterilization of the mentally handicapped ITT. ---------------- Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY Down with alts! One character per account per IP!
Frug Zenithal Harvest 101010 Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.02 15:18:00 - [107] I fully support and endorse this newbie OP having 14 billion isk to blow on a character while lacking the common sense to show info on said character in game. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Lord Dynastron Mystical Knights Legionnaire Services Ltd.	Posted - 2007.10.02 15:41:00 - [108] Where did you get 14 billion isk? Do you already have some high level characters? I was just curious if you are building a mini-fleet or ? As far as getting the trade reveresed, the GM must have smelled scam or perhaps the seller agreed to reverse the trade himself! See, nobody ever assumes the smoothest scenario. I think of GMs like cops, they can ask nicely for you to do something to keep the peace,,, maybe that is what happened? I am not sure why everybody cares so much. I only care, because I am getting all caught up in everybody else caring. Then,, I sit here thinking wth?
Primnproper	Posted - 2007.10.02 16:05:00 - [109] Oh god the trolls One question for you all... Are you a GM or do you know what the GMs policies in this situation are? No? THEN SHUT THE **** UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haakon Jarl Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.10.02 17:05:00 - [110] Originally by: Primnproper Oh god the trolls One question for you all... Are you a GM or do you know what the GMs policies in this situation are? No? THEN SHUT THE ** UP!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ebay is bad mkay? Posting with your alt doesnt change that. In it for the state**

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