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Kaldaine GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.03 23:46:00 - [61] Originally by: Prydeless 6. Vile Rat is an egotistical asshat Vile Rat is indeed a noob and a butt. Imp was really cool and I saw them all the time but CA started recruiting -V- pilots and all sorts of wiered corps and was never the same. TCF and RA are cool beans tho so I have no problem sticking with them.
Ungdall Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.03 23:52:00 - [62] Edited by: Ungdall on 03/10/2007 23:52:30 If anyone sees Xirt, tell him we'll waive the 3 months rule for him. also FREE EPSILON from the drudgery of life
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.04 00:22:00 - [63] Edited by: Berrik Radhok on 04/10/2007 00:23:18 Originally by: Aleksandr Cirtus Goons put us in a role we are not reputable for, leave your little toy POS wars out of CA. Oh, so you want all the benefits of being blue without any of the obligations? Quote: It was Goonswarm that failed in underestimating and misunderstanding the asset that was CA. What 'asset'? Since all your good corps joined GS you guys havn't done anything but let in old enemies of ours, violate our space by mining and ratting where you're not supposed to be, and camp NOL-M9. Quote: After that, Goonswarm's other 2 tiered allies TCF and RA presume to deny us our right to reside in NPC space? What is wrong with the picture when alliances can lay claim to NPC space? Those with the power to claim it, do so. If you can't understand this simple fact, perhaps ebasez is more your speed. Quote: CA didn't pretend to do that, we just wanted a stable HQ (away from the Sov. bs) to play OUR game. Again we have it-- obligations to your allies mean nothing to you. Quote: The fact is: CA was SHAFTED by you all, and I used to carry untold amounts of respect for RSF and friends until they failed to respect us as an entity, no matter how different. Lack of respect loses friends. Damn straight. You displayed a great lack of respect for Redswarm Federation when you let in our enemies, repeatedly violated agreements concerning our space, and judged yourself more important than people who can actually contribute capital ships to this war. Quote: As far as my current alignment is concerned, I'll shoot the ** outta BoB if they show their faces in GW/Curse, I realign myself to reflect where in-game I LIVE, BREATHE, AND FIGHT for MY existence, where the politics of EVE can kiss my *** a$$. Well, you're sure going to be doing a lot of fighting when all the people you've ed off for months and months show up to get their pound of flesh. Quote: I hate how pervasive this alliance political drama is, that it can carry into NPC space. Be warned, the southern coalition is starting to become that which they hate the most, disrespecting and unappreciative of the foundations that assisted in their births. Big words for someone who hasn't had any kills on our board since January. That puts another nail in your claims of being a valuable ally-- you havn't been flying with us, while RA and TCF have been. Quote: I'm disappointed in everyone in this game who is being dragged down from the righteousness that is friendship, honour, respect, and fun, all for the biggest e-peen fight of the god-damned millenium. I would leave this game, but it's the only one in the world that has forced me to think outside the box, and if I have to fight every single one of you destabilizing forces, I WILL. The destabilizing force is Milano and his cronies, who seem to think that diplomacy is best approached using the delicate tool of dynamite. Quote:** My thoughts are my own, and screw you who paint my individual opinion on others as well. If only you practiced what you preached and didn't serve up this huge load of crap for the rest of us to read.
Taj Zela Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh	Posted - 2007.10.04 00:44:00 - [64] Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd Originally by: Taj Zela Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd Originally by: NOK NOK I would like to welcome CA into -V- & Talionis. games about fun guys and i notice alot of people lose sight of this and let all this diplomacy crap get in the way. hoep to be flying with u guys soon.. especially the CA guy two posts above you. Quote: Corporation specialising in; Trade Manufacturing Player Courier Missions NPC missions Mining if you had to look that up; that means you had no idea who this corp or alliance is. THAT is pretty funny. Yeah, its pretty funny that I: A: don't know you B: never heard of you C: played eve since jan-04 D: all of the above
Taj Zela Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh	Posted - 2007.10.04 00:48:00 - [65] Originally by: Berrik Radhok The destabilizing force is Milano and his cronies, who seem to think that diplomacy is best approached using the delicate tool of dynamite. personal assination + shooting blues without informing them? And bob are the bad guys? How exactly are you any better?
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.04 00:52:00 - [66] Originally by: Taj Zela Originally by: Berrik Radhok The destabilizing force is Milano and his cronies, who seem to think that diplomacy is best approached using the delicate tool of dynamite. personal assination + shooting blues without informing them? And bob are the bad guys? How exactly are you any better? CA have had plenty of warning about letting in reds and ratting/mining in our space. There have been continuing issues with them for the past -six months-, starting when they let in -V- members, who promptly moved most of their crap out of our stations in Scalding Pass.
Taj Zela Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh	Posted - 2007.10.04 01:30:00 - [67] Originally by: Berrik Radhok Originally by: Taj Zela Originally by: Berrik Radhok The destabilizing force is Milano and his cronies, who seem to think that diplomacy is best approached using the delicate tool of dynamite. personal assination + shooting blues without informing them? And bob are the bad guys? How exactly are you any better? CA have had plenty of warning about letting in reds and ratting/mining in our space. There have been continuing issues with them for the past -six months-, starting when they let in -V- members, who promptly moved most of their crap out of our stations in Scalding Pass. I don't doubt CA is/was rubbish and a worthless ally, in fact I'm sure they are judging by their member corps. HOWEVER, when bob booted xelas everyone on your side had a lot to say about bob betraying them and all. I'm just saying it looks like a double standard is all.
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.04 01:43:00 - [68] Originally by: Taj Zela Originally by: Berrik Radhok Originally by: Taj Zela Originally by: Berrik Radhok The destabilizing force is Milano and his cronies, who seem to think that diplomacy is best approached using the delicate tool of dynamite. personal assination + shooting blues without informing them? And bob are the bad guys? How exactly are you any better? CA have had plenty of warning about letting in reds and ratting/mining in our space. There have been continuing issues with them for the past -six months-, starting when they let in -V- members, who promptly moved most of their crap out of our stations in Scalding Pass. I don't doubt CA is/was rubbish and a worthless ally, in fact I'm sure they are judging by their member corps. HOWEVER, when bob booted xelas everyone on your side had a lot to say about bob betraying them and all. I'm just saying it looks like a double standard is all. I must have missed the part where CA was our pet and held space only at our sufferance.
CHAOS100 Momentum. The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.10.04 02:10:00 - [69] I didn't know CA felt like becoming 'an hero' --------------
Taj Zela Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh	Posted - 2007.10.04 02:13:00 - [70] Edited by: Taj Zela on 04/10/2007 02:13:25 Originally by: Berrik Radhok Originally by: Taj Zela Originally by: Berrik Radhok Originally by: Taj Zela Originally by: Berrik Radhok The destabilizing force is Milano and his cronies, who seem to think that diplomacy is best approached using the delicate tool of dynamite. personal assination + shooting blues without informing them? And bob are the bad guys? How exactly are you any better? CA have had plenty of warning about letting in reds and ratting/mining in our space. There have been continuing issues with them for the past -six months-, starting when they let in -V- members, who promptly moved most of their crap out of our stations in Scalding Pass. I don't doubt CA is/was rubbish and a worthless ally, in fact I'm sure they are judging by their member corps. HOWEVER, when bob booted xelas everyone on your side had a lot to say about bob betraying them and all. I'm just saying it looks like a double standard is all. I must have missed the part where CA was our pet and held space only at our sufferance. semantics Just another log of hypocrisy to toss on the goon bonfire. Edit: Isnt the point of them being upset that they failed to take/hold space for you?
CardboardSword42 Applied Eugenics	Posted - 2007.10.04 02:34:00 - [71] Originally by: Aleksandr Cirtus abridged What exactly is the new Curse reputable for except sucking horribly? I was flying with CoW in AE when we pushed you guys out of Great Wildlands and to be quite honest, you were horrible. And for an alliance that "LIVE, BREATHE, AND FIGHT for MY existence" you guys have horrible stats (not that these are everything, but it's still embarassing. Plus for someone who doesn't like politics you sure seem to be ****ed about having a lot more targets now :@ I'm Ex-Biomass, that makes me cool But now I'm KOS and that makes me cooler 8)
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.04 02:57:00 - [72] Lol, this thread delivers. Originally by: consider telos ..then we had a fight and he was so dead and then I like became champion of eve and then ccp gave me a medal and a t-shirt and asked me to go out with him on a date to mcD'
Local Her0 Minmatar La Mancha Corp	Posted - 2007.10.04 03:23:00 - [73] oh the drama - awesomness got some quick question: who is CA? what do they stand for? what do they do? where do they live? who is their leader? and how does it feel to be buried alive?
Dylan Rhade Caldari UK Corp	Posted - 2007.10.04 03:33:00 - [74] I also find it quite funny that CA are NOW preaching honour,integrity and righteousness. Yet they have been allied with GS for about 10 months gg CA D If my views represent the views of my corporation and alliance, then you, sir/madam, are a spoon
Orangir GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.04 03:41:00 - [75] Just so you guys know the only person creating drama here is Berrik and the rest of Goonswarm is kinda like meh. I've always thought CA were pretty chill, and the fact that they at least helped out with the war was nice. In the end they decided to side with our enemies and shoot our allies though, so I don't see why they didn't expect us to set them red. As for complaining about being hung out to dry in ZS- though, that's ridiculous. CA came down on their own accord to help out with the war effort. At the time we were retaking Omist and establishing a foothold in Feyth, which was keeping us quite busy, yet I still remember many occasions where we flew out to help CA with their POSes, only to be let down when they brought in a single carrier to rep them. We didn't have the time to babysit CA's tower for the 12 hours it would have taken to rep, so we left to do more important things.
Ungdall Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.04 03:45:00 - [76] If it makes you guys feel any better, there are several groups goons would like to turn neutral far more than you guys.
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.04 04:25:00 - [77] Edited by: Berrik Radhok on 04/10/2007 04:28:44 Originally by: Taj Zela Edited by: Taj Zela on 04/10/2007 02:13:25 Originally by: Berrik Radhok Originally by: Taj Zela Originally by: Berrik Radhok Originally by: Taj Zela Originally by: Berrik Radhok The destabilizing force is Milano and his cronies, who seem to think that diplomacy is best approached using the delicate tool of dynamite. personal assination + shooting blues without informing them? And bob are the bad guys? How exactly are you any better? CA have had plenty of warning about letting in reds and ratting/mining in our space. There have been continuing issues with them for the past -six months-, starting when they let in -V- members, who promptly moved most of their crap out of our stations in Scalding Pass. I don't doubt CA is/was rubbish and a worthless ally, in fact I'm sure they are judging by their member corps. HOWEVER, when bob booted xelas everyone on your side had a lot to say about bob betraying them and all. I'm just saying it looks like a double standard is all. I must have missed the part where CA was our pet and held space only at our sufferance. semantics Just another log of hypocrisy to toss on the goon bonfire. Edit: Isnt the point of them being upset that they failed to take/hold space for you? CA was set to red because they continually violated our space to rat and mine after specifically agreeing not to, have let in enemies (-V- members and T'ang corp), and now want to fly with our enemies and shoot at our allies, all while remaining blue to us and retaining docking access to our stations. Their failure to contribute significantly in the war over the past few months is a reason they are disliked by many goons (including myself), but not one of the ones they're being set red for. To further draw a distinction between CA and Xelas alliance, Xelas paid BoB for the space they lived in. CA did not pay anything (and nor should they have; the pet system is stupid). I am suprised that a CA member would voluntarily compare themselves to Xelas; Xelas was a joke of an 0.0 alliance. The only one that's more of a joke is RISE, which is evacuating essentially just because of 200 goons in recons and cloaked ships rather than any actual capital sieges. Orangir, I suggest you take a look at the thread in space gbs. As soon as news got round about the standings reset, not an hour later, there was a big gang formed to go kill some CA. I've never seen that happen with anyone else we suddenly set red before. There is a LOT of hatred for CA in Goonswarm right now.
Johnny ReeRee The ReeRee Brigade	Posted - 2007.10.04 04:32:00 - [78] THAT PESKY CA -- WHY COULDN'T THEY JUST DO WHAT THEY WERE TOLD TO DO BY THE GREAT AND POWERFUL GOON?!
Bein Glorious GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.04 04:35:00 - [79] Originally by: Berrik Radhok There is a LOT of hatred for CA in Goonswarm right now. not really, they just have to chill out and that gang was formed out of momentary boredom
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.04 04:57:00 - [80] By the way, Johnny, I don't know why you're posting here as I'm pretty sure 90% of CAOD uses the blocker and has you on ignore (including myself).
Vile rat GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.04 07:12:00 - [81] Originally by: Prydeless 6. Vile Rat is an egotistical asshat.
Justin Cray GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.04 12:13:00 - [82] Originally by: Berrik Radhok By the way, Johnny, I don't know why you're posting here as I'm pretty sure 90% of CAOD uses the blocker and has you on ignore (including myself). a) get out of epsilon b) free Schlieren, Academion, FNLN Nordisch by Nature
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.04 12:25:00 - [83] Originally by: Taj Zela i need attention
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.04 17:19:00 - [84] Lets get a few things in the open. CA has been fighting BOB for over 4 years and will continue to do so. TCF told us we could not rat or mine in 98% of Curse. ICA told us we could not rat or mine in 100% of its space Goons told us we could use some systems but had to leave if a Goon asked(Never worked) RA told us all their systems where off limits. RA told us all Complex where off limits. When we tried to make money we could not because outbreak, -v-, foundation, reck, evoke and others could fly down and gank us with out an problem cause we only had 5 systems in curse we could mine or rat hunt which none of them were dead end systems. We where always fighting them losing ships but never really able to make any money to replace capital loses we took in the LV fight. We tried over and over to get some access to space but everyone kept telling us no. Then our members started to leave our alliance for Goons and KOS because well we have space you can mine and hunt in JOIN US. On top of that CA was suppose to get 0-W after we helped take that system but GOON and Battlestars made a special arrangement behind our back to join GOON and take 0-W for them selfÆs. SUPER! CA just looked the other way screwed again. Not only that but battlestars took 1/3 of CA our assets cause they felt they deserved it. GO FIGURE. We go down to ZS to help KOS take some systems in Fethy agaist Rise/Digital with promised help cause we know alone we are not all the powerfull as of right now. We had 8-10 POS online for about 2-3 months but we only received help once from GOON. Yeah we know you had a fight going on in another system some of the time but when you didnÆt have anything going on you didnÆt feel like helping us at all. Then our members got an offer from KOS and we started losing more corps. GO FIGURE screwed again by another friend. We come back to HLW to rebuild and instead of a hostile person killing people trying to make money in 1 of 5 of the systems we can mine or hunt in RA comes in and starts ganking our members. Go figure another friendly Screwing us VERY NICE!! CA at this point is down to about 300 members maybe 200 now and on the verge of just becoming VOTF which is fine with me. We had an offer from the ûv- and church guys to fly with them and mine and hunt anywhere we wanted in GW with little resistance other then foundation. (no one else would give us anything we tried over and over) I even tried to join ûAAA- but they rejected my application although it was one of my alts cause Cupdeez will always stay in VOTF. Now the Goon members and rest of our old so called friends are all ****ed at us? Good cause we have not been very happy with any of you for the last 6 months especially TCF. Not sure really why Goons care if CA sets everyone natural besides ûv- and church. We are pretty much going back to our old CA days where we donÆt have many friends cause the friends always seem to fck you the best. OÆyeah PS. I know we made a few mistakes along the way but every makes mistakes. Xirt move on recruiting the ûv- guys right after we took the station but $ht happens.
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.04 17:26:00 - [85] OÆyeah milano is not 2nd in command he was just our diplomat. He worked hard at trying to make everyone happy but things just didnÆt work out. This game is suppose to be fun and we have not had any fun for the past 6 months so this is an attempt to make the game fun again. Any old friends who want to harp on us don't bother look to your leaders cause this was brought on by them.
Taj Zela Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh	Posted - 2007.10.04 17:34:00 - [86] Originally by: Berrik Radhok To further draw a distinction between CA and Xelas alliance, Xelas paid BoB for the space they lived in. CA did not pay anything (and nor should they have; the pet system is stupid). You know, you can repeat a lie as much as you want but that doesnt make it true. Xelas didnt pay bob rent. It has been said a billion + 1 times. Yet, you keep repeating your lies. Secondly, YOU charge rent, maybe not in isk but inkind with pos fuel. So, stop with the lies ok.
Johnny ReeRee The ReeRee Brigade	Posted - 2007.10.04 17:42:00 - [87] Is anyone surprised? Goons absorbed the people they wanted from CA, then screwed them, then posted private diplomatic conversations in a mocking CAOD thread. Why not? Why shouldn't the goons feel free to make all the decisions about who CA admits, where they go and what they do? What are friends for? But right, goonies are all about freedom and fofofofo and would never treat "friends" the way ebil BoB does! After all, CA was only there beside goonies for months when things were harder than they are now. Way to go goonies, and mad props for bringing it!
Admiral Feelgood GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.04 17:44:00 - [88] Originally by: Cupdeez We had 8-10 POS online for about 2-3 months but we only received help once from GOON. Did this really happen because I think you're making this up entirely(the 2-3 months part). I know I went down there and lost my battleship, we had a fleet logged off in that system to help you but you didn't have anyone to rep or defend your only surviving POS so it got destroyed and we lost most of our fleet.
Hudsonn Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.10.04 18:10:00 - [89] Originally by: Cupdeez Lets get a few things in the open. CA has been fighting BOB for over 4 years and will continue to do so. TCF told us we could not rat or mine in 98% of Curse. ICA told us we could not rat or mine in 100% of its space Goons told us we could use some systems but had to leave if a Goon asked(Never worked) RA told us all their systems where off limits. RA told us all Complex where off limits. When we tried to make money we could not because outbreak, -v-, foundation, reck, evoke and others could fly down and gank us with out an problem cause we only had 5 systems in curse we could mine or rat hunt which none of them were dead end systems. We where always fighting them losing ships but never really able to make any money to replace capital loses we took in the LV fight. We tried over and over to get some access to space but everyone kept telling us no. Then our members started to leave our alliance for Goons and KOS because well we have space you can mine and hunt in JOIN US. On top of that CA was suppose to get 0-W after we helped take that system but GOON and Battlestars made a special arrangement behind our back to join GOON and take 0-W for them selfÆs. SUPER! CA just looked the other way screwed again. Not only that but battlestars took 1/3 of CA our assets cause they felt they deserved it. GO FIGURE. We go down to ZS to help KOS take some systems in Fethy agaist Rise/Digital with promised help cause we know alone we are not all the powerfull as of right now. We had 8-10 POS online for about 2-3 months but we only received help once from GOON. Yeah we know you had a fight going on in another system some of the time but when you didnÆt have anything going on you didnÆt feel like helping us at all. Then our members got an offer from KOS and we started losing more corps. GO FIGURE screwed again by another friend. We come back to HLW to rebuild and instead of a hostile person killing people trying to make money in 1 of 5 of the systems we can mine or hunt in RA comes in and starts ganking our members. Go figure another friendly Screwing us VERY NICE!! CA at this point is down to about 300 members maybe 200 now and on the verge of just becoming VOTF which is fine with me. We had an offer from the ûv- and church guys to fly with them and mine and hunt anywhere we wanted in GW with little resistance other then foundation. (no one else would give us anything we tried over and over) I even tried to join ûAAA- but they rejected my application although it was one of my alts cause Cupdeez will always stay in VOTF. Now the Goon members and rest of our old so called friends are all ****ed at us? Good cause we have not been very happy with any of you for the last 6 months especially TCF. Not sure really why Goons care if CA sets everyone natural besides ûv- and church. We are pretty much going back to our old CA days where we donÆt have many friends cause the friends always seem to fck you the best. OÆyeah PS. I know we made a few mistakes along the way but every makes mistakes. Xirt move on recruiting the ûv- guys right after we took the station but $ht happens. Welcome back to GW. ___________________________
testyonetwo	Posted - 2007.10.04 18:54:00 - [90] You know your alliance has issues when KOS looks like a better choice. Sorry to hear about that CA, welcome to the new east.

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