Originally by: testyonetwo

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You know your alliance has issues when KOS looks like a better choice.

Sorry to hear about that CA, welcome to the new east.

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Originally by: Nlewis

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Originally by: testyonetwo

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You know your alliance has issues when KOS looks like a better choice.

Sorry to hear about that CA, welcome to the new east.

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post with your main

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Originally by: testyonetwo

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Originally by: Nlewis

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Originally by: testyonetwo

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You know your alliance has issues when KOS looks like a better choice.

Sorry to hear about that CA, welcome to the new east.

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post with your main

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Does posting with my main make KOS have less iskfarmers? If so I'll think about it

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Originally by: dragonssbane

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No, it makes you look less of a spineless tinfoil hat wearing twit.

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Originally by: Berrik Radhok

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Edited by: Berrik Radhok on 04/10/2007 04:28:44

Originally by: Taj Zela

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Edited by: Taj Zela on 04/10/2007 02:13:25

Originally by: Berrik Radhok

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Originally by: Taj Zela

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Originally by: Berrik Radhok

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Originally by: Taj Zela

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Originally by: Berrik Radhok

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The destabilizing force is Milano and his cronies, who seem to think that diplomacy is best approached using the delicate tool of dynamite.

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personal assination + shooting blues without informing them?

And bob are the bad guys? How exactly are you any better?

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CA have had plenty of warning about letting in reds and ratting/mining in our space. There have been continuing issues with them for the past -six months-, starting when they let in -V- members, who promptly moved most of their crap out of our stations in Scalding Pass.

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I don't doubt CA is/was rubbish and a worthless ally, in fact I'm sure they are judging by their member corps. HOWEVER, when bob booted xelas everyone on your side had a lot to say about bob betraying them and all. I'm just saying it looks like a double standard is all.

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I must have missed the part where CA was our pet and held space only at our sufferance.

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semantics

Just another log of hypocrisy to toss on the goon bonfire.

Edit: Isnt the point of them being upset that they failed to take/hold space for you?

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CA was set to red because they continually violated our space to rat and mine after specifically agreeing not to, have let in enemies (-V- members and T'ang corp), and now want to fly with our enemies and shoot at our allies, all while remaining blue to us and retaining docking access to our stations.

Their failure to contribute significantly in the war over the past few months is a reason they are disliked by many goons (including myself), but not one of the ones they're being set red for.

To further draw a distinction between CA and Xelas alliance, Xelas paid BoB for the space they lived in. CA did not pay anything (and nor should they have; the pet system is stupid).

I am suprised that a CA member would voluntarily compare themselves to Xelas; Xelas was a joke of an 0.0 alliance. The only one that's more of a joke is RISE, which is evacuating essentially just because of 200 goons in recons and cloaked ships rather than any actual capital sieges.

Orangir, I suggest you take a look at the thread in space gbs. As soon as news got round about the standings reset, not an hour later, there was a big gang formed to go kill some CA. I've never seen that happen with anyone else we suddenly set red before.

There is a LOT of hatred for CA in Goonswarm right now.

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Originally by: Taj Zela

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Originally by: Berrik Radhok

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To further draw a distinction between CA and Xelas alliance, Xelas paid BoB for the space they lived in. CA did not pay anything (and nor should they have; the pet system is stupid).

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You know, you can repeat a lie as much as you want but that doesnt make it true. Xelas didnt pay bob rent. It has been said a billion + 1 times. Yet, you keep repeating your lies. Secondly, YOU charge rent, maybe not in isk but inkind with pos fuel. So, stop with the lies ok.

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Originally by: Death Church

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ok I clicked reply this time.

I think CA made the right move, to set all those idiots neutral or red, granted you are still neutral to us as we have enough blues. Plus you stayed blue to TCF far too long for any of the free alliances who ignored TCF "control of an NPC region" to really have too many friends there. You and the Sundering will still most likely be considered PETs to the worst alliance in game.

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Originally by: Berrik Radhok

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let's run down the list

-Xirt has been out forever
-Milano, who is Xirt's second, is an arrogant idiot
-Milano okayed allowing in people red to us such as T'ang, an isk farmer corp
-Milano wants to fly with people we have set red and shoot at our allies
-Milano gets sassy to our chief diplomat
-CA is largely a worthless sack of crap that hasn't contributed anything to the war since the destruction of LV, not least because they allowed in a bunch of ex -V- members so they could get their crap out of our stations

in summary Milano is a butt

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Originally by: Taj Zela

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Originally by: Berrik Radhok

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To further draw a distinction between CA and Xelas alliance, Xelas paid BoB for the space they lived in. CA did not pay anything (and nor should they have; the pet system is stupid).

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You know, you can repeat a lie as much as you want but that doesnt make it true. Xelas didnt pay bob rent. It has been said a billion + 1 times. Yet, you keep repeating your lies. Secondly, YOU charge rent, maybe not in isk but inkind with pos fuel. So, stop with the lies ok.

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Originally by: Berrik Radhok

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BOS and a few other corps that are now in Goonswarm...

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Originally by: Shiwan Khan

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Originally by: Berrik Radhok

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BOS and a few other corps that are now in Goonswarm...

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ermm...
/emote looks at corp/alliance ticker....yep, still Pandemic Legion

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Originally by: JERIC0

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To be honest I think CA screwed up about 6 - 9 months ago when we were fighting LV.

We have alot of strong corps in the alliance like BOS and Ars C etc.

We were activly helping the first stages of invasion of LV. sending up fleets of ships to LV space to join in the fun.

But the moment Xirt said he wanted to stay in GW and now hold any space I think it went down hill. Instead of holding stations in Detroid which would have been easier to defend he wanted to stay in GW and get camped in the station by COW.

That I believe is when most people started leaving. CA didn't have any ambitions then. Now I believe they are just trying to survive and the only way they can do that is join the people who are beating them left right and centre.

And as a fact GOONS offered everything to Curse. CA are the backstabbers. GOONS were trying to give us as many stations as we wanted. They done nothing but help us. Same as Red Alliance. I had respect for CA but dont anymore. Makes me ashamed I was part of it to be honest.

All I can say is I will always be loyal to Goons and Red, they saved my ass personally many times

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Originally by: Benvolio GrrrKrishnakk

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Edited by: Benvolio GrrrKrishnakk on 05/10/2007 09:39:29
This thread is pretty lol. The vast majority of goons don't care either way, as has already been said we've welcomed the CA corps who are actually interested in this war into our own alliance, and as such CA has devolved into an ineffectual non-entity.

Just for the record though, gents, we never left you out to dry. We sent fleets to protect your POS's when they were coming out of reinforced, but seeing as how your members couldn't be bothered to put together any support fleets to actually rep the POS's then there was just no point for us to hang around. As for the "TCF and RA and GS won't let us rat/mine anywhere", those were the terms that were agreed upon. More than once you gentlemen made agreements that you broke days later, and I am at least somewhat relieved that our diplomats will be freed from the onerous duty of sifting through the results of your greed.

If you guys want to ally with forces actively hostile to the RSF then fine, you weren't really doing anything anyway other than being a liability. I doubt joining our enemies will galvanise you anymore than having our support against BoB did.

Edit: I can't wait for Xirt to come back and see what you've done to his alliance.

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Originally by: James 315

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Goon logistics may have the most efficient manner of griefing BoB that there is:every Goon tower in a BoB system is a punch in BoB's stomach and a middle finger to Dianabolic's crew

Originally by: Admiral Feelgood

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Originally by: Cupdeez

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We had 8-10 POS online for about 2-3 months but we only received help once from GOON.

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Did this really happen because I think you're making this up entirely(the 2-3 months part).

I know I went down there and lost my battleship, we had a fleet logged off in that system to help you but you didn't have anyone to rep or defend your only surviving POS so it got destroyed and we lost most of our fleet.

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Originally by: DREDD

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They had 6 up in zs- for about 1-2mths and one in UTDH. CA did get help from goon in taking our jammer down over a 12 hr period, CA brought caps in tried to reinforce one logistical pos, we caught their dreads at said pos, and they simply dissapeared. The CA assault lasted about two weeks in total, during which time they got taken to bits every time they engaged except when they brought a mixed coalition gang which outnumbered us 2-1, which we still engaged. After that it was pretty laughable. The rest of the 2 month period was us riding the roflcopter about thinking about CA.

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Originally by: sharkyballs

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They had 6 up in zs- for about 1-2mths and one in UTDH. CA did get help from goon in taking our jammer down over a 12 hr period, CA brought caps in tried to reinforce one logistical pos, we caught their dreads at said pos, and they simply dissapeared. The CA assault lasted about two weeks in total, during which time they got taken to bits every time they engaged except when they brought a mixed coalition gang which outnumbered us 2-1, which we still engaged. After that it was pretty laughable. The rest of the 2 month period was us riding the roflcopter about thinking about CA.

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this is probably one of the more honest postes here and it's from the enemy. i lived out of one of those poses from the arrival of CA to the retreat. Goons helped CA once, maybe twice if you count a few pilots here and there. that's it. CA got backstabbed. plain and simple. CA allies always made life hard for them, but it wasn't till after the ZS camphaign that CA started saying **** off. and with good reason.

on the other hand, the only time CA really faced any real threat from DR is when BOB and Rise came to thier aid. Commander Solo left that part out. DR is going to be crushed when RSF rolls through there if that doesn't happen again.

BTW, thanks goons, i'm getting out of this war to go fight another war. reason: i'm now convinced the same as a lot of people are, your no better than what your fighting against.

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Originally by: Commander Solo

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lol?

You do know bob came down ONCE to assist in utdh after you called in the coalition right? You invaded us, we killed everything that you threw at us , we killed all of your pos bar the utdh one without bob support

To be honest i think the lack of clarity and truth in the post shows why you fail. You came to invade us, you brought 4+ alliances against a corp of 350 and you failed. Goon knocking out our jammer gave you the impetus, you did not take advantage of that.

Your allies came to assist you, dont be mad at them for your failings.

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Originally by: sharkyballs

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Originally by: Commander Solo

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lol?

You do know bob came down ONCE to assist in utdh after you called in the coalition right? You invaded us, we killed everything that you threw at us , we killed all of your pos bar the utdh one without bob support

To be honest i think the lack of clarity and truth in the post shows why you fail. You came to invade us, you brought 4+ alliances against a corp of 350 and you failed. Goon knocking out our jammer gave you the impetus, you did not take advantage of that.

Your allies came to assist you, dont be mad at them for your failings.

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you speak of my lack of clarity and truth? the UT tower was killed toward the end correct, the last tower standing was my corps until we sold most of it to your corp members and easily flew away from your systems. and it took you two months to do that. i'm not the one confused here on events that took place. that being said, you should be sure about your accusations because i know i saw bob and rise there more than once. i think your just mad because you know i'm right about what RSF will do to you. i just hope your preparing. i'm not mad at

GS, i'm just not going to participate anymore in something i don't believe in. big difference. have a nice day.

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Originally by: Taj Zela

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Originally by: dragonssbane

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No, it makes you look less of a spineless tinfoil hat wearing twit.

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dragonssbane
Caldari
State War Academy

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