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Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.10.05 01:51:00 - [1] Edited by: Xen Gin on 05/10/2007 01:54:10 I've got a problem with certain graphical artefacts in the client. Nothing major, but I'm looking to resolve the issues. It seems to be centred around ship icons, the ones that appear at the top of the screen when you lock a ship, and the icons representing ships in the ship panel. The backgrounds are correct but the ship part of the image is transparent. There are also a few other things such as: Sliding Bars only have the widget (and the spacers in the right click menu have disappeared), Cargo Capacity et al appear greyed out, Space dust appears static, Bunkers and Barricades in missions only appear to have the lights texture displayed but are otherwise transparent. I've tried reinstalling EVE from a new download, Clearing the Cache, Tried changing the settings in the client, even using the 'advanceddevice' command. ditto in the ATI Control Panel. I just recently upgraded the mobo, CPU, RAM, GPU and PSU. I initially had Win Vista Ult installed, but moved back to XP. It was fine in Vista. But every other game I have is perfectly fine, its only EVE. System Details. GA-P35-DQ6 mobo, Intel Duo 2 Quad Core 6600, Sapphire HD 2900XT, Win XP Pro SP2, DX 9.0c, ATI Catalyst drivers 7.9 Resoultion Desktop and Client - 1440x900. GPU heat appears to be about 55c. Screenshots. Static Dust Transparent Locked Objects Crago Capacity Bars Transparent Locked Ships Client Graphical Settings + Missing Slide Hanger Panel Apologies if I've missed something its nearing 3am. Thanks for any help anyone can offer.
RnProphet	Posted - 2007.10.05 07:53:00 - [2] I could tell you right now that your problem is probably that shiny new ATI card. I just got myself a 2600XT and have all the same problems, plus lots of more in other games. However my card most likely had a defective RAM module causing my other various problems. Just my 2 cents. I've been waiting for someone else to have this problem so lets make this a constructive thread.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.10.05 08:05:00 - [3] Edited by: Xen Gin on 05/10/2007 08:05:55 Hmm, I'm not sure what it is, but I'm able to run things like Half Life 2 at maximum settings with 1440x900, and 16x AA and it runs perfect. I haven't had any other problems at all, and is fine in Vista. But, Yes, lets get this resolved.
Falkrich Swifthand	Posted - 2007.10.05 11:21:00 - [4] Edited by: Falkrich Swifthand on 05/10/2007 11:23:33 Edited by: Falkrich Swifthand on 05/10/2007 11:22:04 That's interesting, those are the exact same graphical glitches I see running eve under Wine on Ubuntu Linux (x86_64, 8800GTS gfx card). EDIT: Especially the 2nd-last one (missing sliders), and the broken ship images.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.10.05 11:41:00 - [5] Originally by: Falkrich Swifthand Edited by: Falkrich Swifthand on 05/10/2007 11:23:33 Edited by: Falkrich Swifthand on 05/10/2007 11:22:04 That's interesting, those are the exact same graphical glitches I see running eve under Wine on Ubuntu Linux (x86_64, 8800GTS gfx card). EDIT: Especially the 2nd-last one (missing sliders), and the broken ship images. The mystery deepens! Dun dun dunnn!
RnProphet	Posted - 2007.10.06 04:49:00 - [6] No one has any ideas? Well I'll bump it because I want a fix.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.10.06 14:07:00 - [7] Originally by: RnProphet No one has any ideas? Well I'll bump it because I want a fix. Indeed.
CFC Fodder Gallente R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2007.10.07 03:12:00 - [8] Have you tried other drivers (older, newer, possibly even third party)? Have you overclocked or underclocked GPU/RAM on your video card? Updated to the latest DirectX? Just to eliminate some possibilities.
RnProphet	Posted - 2007.10.07 06:53:00 - [9] I've tried newer and older drivers, not overclocled or undercloced. DirectX 9C whatever the latest distrbution is. It would be great if a Dev could pop in here who might know whats going on.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.10.07 16:32:00 - [10] Originally by: RnProphet I've tried newer and older drivers, not overclocled or undercloced. DirectX 9C whatever the latest distrbution is. It would be great if a Dev could pop in here who might know whats going on. Same here, not over or under clocking, DirectX 9.0c latest. And I've tried the drivers that come with the card, and updated and previous versions from ATI. I don't understand why it was flawless on Vista when the drivers were near identical.
CFC Fodder Gallente R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2007.10.07 18:54:00 - [11] Edited by: CFC Fodder on 07/10/2007 18:54:40 Oh no, try underclocking it on purpose. If it works underclocked, then you'd need to return the video card, as it would certainly be faulty. Okay then, have you ran a scandisk followed by defreag (optimally after the defrag you should have little or no fragmentation, by the way). Check also your temperatures (highly doubtful as well), and memory by using a memory checking program overnight.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.10.07 23:27:00 - [12] Originally by: CFC Fodder Edited by: CFC Fodder on 07/10/2007 18:54:40 Oh no, try underclocking it on purpose. If it works underclocked, then you'd need to return the video card, as it would certainly be faulty. Okay then, have you ran a scandisk followed by defreag (optimally after the defrag you should have little or no fragmentation, by the way). Check also your temperatures (highly doubtful as well), and memory by using a memory checking program overnight. Defragged and Chkdisked my drives, still there. Done the memory scan, was fine. ATI CCC doesn't allow me to under clock with it (I think).
asdfasdfsdfeeee	Posted - 2007.10.08 00:23:00 - [13] I have the exact same problem
xZarkwon Caldari V i r u s	Posted - 2007.10.08 00:24:00 - [14] Having the same problem. Sometimes i can't tell what im about to fight lol
CFC Fodder Gallente R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2007.10.08 03:28:00 - [15] I think I'm about tapped out. I know there's some pretty minor graphics settings within EVE. I know messing around once with one called Z something or other screwed up my install. Seems people who were having graphical problems in the past changed this and got it to work. Keep in mind, I changed it when mine had no graphics problems, and I couldn't play (textures corruption to the nth degree, really). I'm sorry I couldn't help much, but at least this gives a start to say that x and y were done. I hope some kind of dev or wonder genius shows up to help out.
Sleepkevert Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.10.08 10:55:00 - [16] I have the static dust problem also. But just when my ship is moving, and i'm looking at another (static or moving) object. Length of the stripes is relative to my ships speed. Don't have any of the other issues tough. C2D E6600 Asus P5B deluxe, 2 gig ram 8800GTX with latest drivers. Sign my sig
RnProphet	Posted - 2007.10.08 15:15:00 - [17] Looking at everything i think it is a driver issue, exept for the static dust, thet is just something the engine does.
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.10.08 20:51:00 - [18] Originally by: RnProphet Looking at everything i think it is a driver issue, exept for the static dust, thet is just something the engine does. It draws the dust based on how fast and what direction your ship is moving, not the object your looking at. It's not related to the other issues and it's normal. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.10.08 22:13:00 - [19] Originally by: Frug Originally by: RnProphet Looking at everything i think it is a driver issue, exept for the static dust, thet is just something the engine does. It draws the dust based on how fast and what direction your ship is moving, not the object your looking at. It's not related to the other issues and it's normal. Mine was actually static. My ship wasn't moving, neither was the object or the dust.
iCerberus The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.09 15:14:00 - [20] Same problems running WinXP :\| swapped to Vista and problems gone.. drives issue i guess so i have sent a nice long email to ATI and now lets wait and see... My views do not represent those of my corp or alliance.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.10.09 23:34:00 - [21] Originally by: iCerberus Same problems running WinXP :\| swapped to Vista and problems gone.. drives issue i guess so i have sent a nice long email to ATI and now lets wait and see... Is there anything on their website or support?
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.10.11 11:52:00 - [22] Edited by: Xen Gin on 11/10/2007 11:52:06 Still no answers??
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.10.12 02:21:00 - [23] Updated to 7.10 drivers and CCC, the errors still remain.
RnProphet	Posted - 2007.10.14 08:38:00 - [24] Well it's nice to see a soulution..... sigh. Sorry, I'm getting a little sick of the missing things. I'm pretty sure it is a z-buffer driver issue, but I have no way to tell and adjusting the settings doesn't help. It may also have something to do with geomotry instacing being locked in the on position for the new card. I may try third party modified driver, may help.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.10.14 15:04:00 - [25] Originally by: RnProphet Well it's nice to see a soulution..... sigh. Sorry, I'm getting a little sick of the missing things. I'm pretty sure it is a z-buffer driver issue, but I have no way to tell and adjusting the settings doesn't help. It may also have something to do with geomotry instacing being locked in the on position for the new card. I may try third party modified driver, may help. What solution? Vista isn't a solution
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.10.17 21:54:00 - [26] Anyone else come across a solution or this problem that can help?
xZarkwon Caldari V i r u s	Posted - 2007.10.22 02:59:00 - [27] Bump still having this problem. Tried omega drivers still nothing. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:52:00 - [28] Originally by: xZarkwon Bump still having this problem. Tried omega drivers still nothing. Yeah, Still nothing over here :(
Axos V	Posted - 2007.10.23 21:17:00 - [29] Unfortunatly ATIs drivers have caused issues for EVE for many years. I once had an issue also..... I had to manually create a driver set from various old and new ATI drivers. My advice.... with the delays in ATI implementing technology I'd replace it with a NVidia... they been using Shader Model v3 for years before ATI.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.10.24 01:15:00 - [30] Originally by: Axos V with the delays in ATI implementing technology I'd replace it with a NVidia No, I'm quite happy with this card running everything else perfectly except for a few bits of EVE. Maybe it will be resolved when Trinity is released.

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