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BhallSpawn
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Posted - 2007.10.06 13:13:00 -
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Yes, I said it.
I specifically made a caldari only character, I now have a total of 30 million skill points and tried to make a pure racial based character.
But it seems CCP has had it decided to make caldari suck ass in pvp.
Not sure why they did this.
But I'm not very happy...
It seems I'm almost forced to cross train into another race in order to pvp well.
Tried of this crap.
only ships I see as competitive in pvp for caldari is drake\scorpion\rokh\recon ships(everyone has a good one)
That only leaves hawk(sucks)raven(sucks)missles in general(sucks)ferox(sucks)..
need I go on?
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Zosana
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Posted - 2007.10.06 13:14:00 -
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Moa - Blows.
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Alvin Elte
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Posted - 2007.10.06 13:15:00 -
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well you suck since your caldari.
you sir suck balls
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2007.10.06 13:15:00 -
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On the bright side you can breeze through lvl 4 missions real easy and make some decent isk 
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iiOs
Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2007.10.06 13:16:00 -
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yea, caldri kinde blow, specily solo
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000Hunter000
Gallente
Magners Marauders
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Posted - 2007.10.06 13:21:00 -
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Well seeing how u hate ur own racial ships...
Can i have them?
CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
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Death Kill
Caldari
direkte
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Posted - 2007.10.06 13:25:00 -
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OP is 50% right.
Caldari sucks for PVP but is good for PVE.
When it comes to pvp :
Scorpion sucks ass, its supposed to be an all out EW platform but a frig with a damp can disable it.
The raven is a joke. It can tank fairly well but its no match against other bs's 1vs1. Its DPS is crap.
Rhook is ok if you wear a telescope. you cant choose your battles, your enemy wont warp in at 200km
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Boomershoot
Caldari
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
Deus Ex.
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Posted - 2007.10.06 13:26:00 -
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manticore, moa, crow, nighthawk, vulture, chimera, wyvern, leviathan
yeah, it's not much :|
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maCH'EttE
Veto.
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Posted - 2007.10.06 13:30:00 -
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How about the Crow? I also like the Cerberus quite a lot, and looking into potential Eagle setups (I don't fly one yet) it looks fairly promising, as does the Nighthawk. I just finished training for Recons and haven't had a chance to play with them yet, but from what I've seen, they can be extremely effective.
Caldari do suck for solo work though and it would be nice if this were looked at, but I don't imagine it will be.
 Originally by: Devil Hanzo (ISD)
I got pwned! 
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Snake Doctor
Paradox v2.0
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Posted - 2007.10.06 13:33:00 -
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Uhhh----
Rokh, fully fitted, decent pvp.
Raven, not stupidly fitted, great pvp support.
Scorp, Awesome fleet support.
Caracal- learn how to use it, it's a good, cheap pvp'r
Moa - blows
If you know what you're doing, you can easily take a Domi in a Hawk or Harpy. I killed a Brutix in a Hawk a while back.
What we really need to get you is a t2 shuttle.
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iiOs
Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2007.10.06 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Snake Doctor
Uhhh----
Rokh, fully fitted, decent pvp.
Raven, not stupidly fitted, great pvp support.
Scorp, Awesome fleet support.
Caracal- learn how to use it, it's a good, cheap pvp'r
Moa - blows
If you know what you're doing, you can easily take a Domi in a Hawk or Harpy. I killed a Brutix in a Hawk a while back.
What we really need to get you is a t2 shuttle.
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Miss Ore
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Posted - 2007.10.06 13:39:00 -
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Why dont you train Gallente has your second race choise just like I did? 
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Boomershoot
Caldari
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
Deus Ex.
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Posted - 2007.10.06 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Ore
Why dont you train Gallente has your second race choise just like I did?
umh, lol
keep seeing caldari ppl training for gallente, may be that gallente pvp rocks with drones
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Death Kill
Caldari
direkte
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Posted - 2007.10.06 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Snake Doctor
Rokh, fully fitted, decent pvp.
Yeah from a distant.
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Raven, not stupidly fitted, great pvp support.
Support? You mean your missiles will hit before your gang kills primary?
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Scorp, Awesome fleet support.
And thats that.
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Caracal- learn how to use it, it's a good, cheap pvp'r
caracal is cool.
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If you know what you're doing, you can easily take a Domi in a Hawk or Harpy. I killed a Brutix in a Hawk a while back.
What we really need to get you is a t2 shuttle.
I dont think its you knowing what you are doing. Its more the pilots you fought being morons.
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Arana Tellen
Gallente
The Blackguard Wolves
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.10.06 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill
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Raven, not stupidly fitted, great pvp support.
Support? You mean your missiles will hit before your gang kills primary?
Support, as in anti support in this case perhaps?
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Goumindong
Amarr
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.06 14:04:00 -
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Caldari is fine, there are a few minor ship specific issues[caracal needs another low slot, moa and ferox need more turrets, eagle needs another role(but not more dps), and some general issues [siege/ham PG use is too high, missiles in general move too slowly], but other than that there isnt really anything bad about the ships, it mainly comes down to people who think they can pvp in the same way they pve, or that dont understand the power of hit points and the power of electronic warfare.
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Zaxslann
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Posted - 2007.10.06 14:11:00 -
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Hey, it could be worse, at least you didn't pick an ugly Achura face.
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Bosie
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.06 14:25:00 -
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Caldari ships tend to have set roles that they play very well. Yes this tends to not include DPS machine but the roles they do play they excel at. Flying Caldari is like playing the cleric in D&D.
"There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word,
which means more to me than any other.
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Stitcher
Caldari
legion of qui
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.06 14:29:00 -
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used properly, Caldari ships can rule the field. The operative section of that statement, however, was "used properly."
There's definitely a place for hardcore tanking vessels in any fleet - you want something that can soak up the firepower and buy time for its friends to do some real damage. The Caldari are possibly some of the best damage sponges in the game, well able to soak up ridiculous quantities of firepower before going down, if outfitted properly. I've seen drakes easily handle the combined firepower of multiple command ships - it took the arrival of a carrier to break its tank.
it's my firm opinion that no particular race "sucks" too hard next to their counterparts. Sure, the Amarrians have damage output issues, and the Caldari have a problem with delayed DPS, but they compensate by having the tougher resistance tanks.
The trick is to learn what works, then do it as hard as you possible can.
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The game is not the problem.
The problem is that you are not adapting to the game.
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Tommiles
Gallente
valiant shadows
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Posted - 2007.10.06 14:35:00 -
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caldari ships suck, are you on ***** BhallSpawn ?
its amarr ships that suck maybe you need to go try them out and you will find out that caldari ships are not that bad
i had lots of fun doing pvp with them
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DJ P
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Posted - 2007.10.06 14:36:00 -
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One advice.
Do not go to PVP with your Caldari ship fitted for ratting. After that Caldari has some very good specialised ships.
Especialy Eagle and Drake and must for roaming cheap cost gangs.
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Brackun
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.10.06 14:45:00 -
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I came to the conclusion a while ago that Caldari is for PvE and Gallente is for PvP, but that's thinking in absolute. I can have some pretty decent 1v1's in my Raven though, so it's not all that bad.
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Phoenix Lord
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.06 14:55:00 -
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TBH the only race that is really hurting right now is Amarr. Every other race kick ass easily, if the pilot knows how to fly the ship.
You CANNOT say Ravens are bad in PVP... i have guys in my corp that are crazy with them. Maybe theyre not as good for large fleets, due to the missile travel time, but they can dominate in small gangs. You guys can fit a tank in the mids and damage mods in the lows, gallente cant :(
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Zana Kito
Antares Fleet Yards
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.06 15:00:00 -
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Eve is not balanced around 1v1 pvp. No, it's true!
This is like gallente whining about how drone ships are useless in fleet fights.. or blasters are useless cos people can kite them.
Caldari are the best in the pve game. They perform great in gangs and fleets. Take a look at major alliance killboard and you'll see a lot of ships involved in fleet ops are caldari. Just because some of you want to be great at everything does not mean caldari suck..  |
Lea Re
Dirty Labs
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Posted - 2007.10.06 15:04:00 -
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omg, yet another 'caldari suck' thread
which is not the case. my first char was gallente/minnie. then i had a break from eve, sold the char. after .5 year i reactivated my caldari alt. my first thought after pvping a bit was... 'omg, caldari suck big time'
over time i learned how to use caldari ships. they arent best at pvp but they do not suck
raven - when in gang, start shooting at secondary instead of primary if you know your missiles won't hit
caracal - awesome cheap ship. paperthin tank but few damping caracals are deadly
rokh - great 250 sniper
rook - small gang beauty. just fit racial jammers
drake - amazing tank. with 1k dps tanked on lowest resist without any faction gear you can't complain
crow - a hell of an inty
nighthawk - gotta love it
and then youve got moa and eagle
oh... and cerberus. i hate pvping in it but with 2 cargo expanders it has got over 1k m3 cargo space making it the most beatiful small low sec hauler ever ;)
if you think caldari suck at pvp, look at what burn eden does with ravens
and to someone mentioning that amarr suck at pvp: watch cown videos
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Phoenix Lord
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.06 15:06:00 -
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Never said amarr sucked at PVP. Just said theyre hurting the most right now, as in its harder for them than every one else. But still possible.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.06 15:10:00 -
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Caldaris and missiles are good at pvp.
The last alliance tournament has shown it.
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maCH'EttE
Veto.
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Posted - 2007.10.06 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
The last alliance tournament has shown it.
Not exactly the best comparison to 'real' PVP.
Originally by: Devil Hanzo (ISD)
I got pwned!
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Snake Doctor
Paradox v2.0
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Posted - 2007.10.06 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill
Originally by: Snake Doctor
Rokh, fully fitted, decent pvp.
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Yeah from a distant.
No, you can fit 8 of anything you like in those slots. Use them wiseley.
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Raven, not stupidly fitted, great pvp support.
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Support? You mean your missiles will hit before your gang kills primary?
I've had some very successful fights with a raven. No one says you have to put missiles in every slot.
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Scorp, Awesome fleet support.
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And thats that.
You must not fly one much. Scorpions can act as logistics bs's in the best way with a good fit.
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Caracal- learn how to use it, it's a good, cheap pvp'r
caracal is cool.
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If you know what you're doing, you can easily take a Domi in a Hawk or Harpy. I killed a Brutix in a Hawk a while back.
What we really need to get you is a t2 shuttle.
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I dont think its you knowing what you are doing. Its more the pilots you fought being morons.
Hrmm. The last one sounds like a dig at me, but I can assure you I know what I'm doing + the other pilot might be a moron. Always a good combination to have.
It just sounds a lot like you asked us for an opinion by posting and just don't like the answers you're getting.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.06 15:52:00 -
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Like they say, it's not the size of the missile that counts, but how you use it
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