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fuze
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Posted - 2007.10.09 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Really? We're anti-goon, since when?
I'd say, more like pro-geek.  |

Seren Novae
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Posted - 2007.10.09 15:05:00 -
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I listen to your show while I'm at work & I love it! Very entertaining.
Would be great to have interviews with CEOs, Director's or Eve personalities on corporate management, FC basics, how to fight wars in Empire & 0.0, what to look for when joining a corp, how to manage POS's, Eve-Voice protocol, what to do while being chased or bubbled, using the scanner etc...this is stuff I'd love to learn more about from the experts.
I'd also like to hear more anecdotes, when did you know you're 'hooked', what corps have you been in -how were they different, how has your experience and goals of Eve changed over time. It might also be interesting to have mini-debates eg. scamming is good/bad for Eve, should players be less anonymous/accountable, how would you improve blob warfare -topics often on the forum but short on intelligent & civil discussion.
I'd also be happy to listen to mini sci-fi stories perhaps which good voice acting *ahem* ^^. Failing that, tales of adventure & intrigue will suffice.
Keep up the good work!
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Seeheld
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.09 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink Really? We're anti-goon, since when?
When ever RSF or Goons in general are discussed it is always with the "LOL TECH1 Frigates" argument. You barely discuss the fact that RA/AAA/IAC knocked out your Titan within months of its unveiling. Mostly just a "well at least we use it"
There is no talk of the war in the south, you fail to mention that BoB has all but abandoned their pets to our incoming masses. k-9 is lost, CORM are on the run, RISE hasn't been able to use their stations in the RIT triangle for weeks and your own Alliance leader is fed up with BoB and their whole "chasing two rabbits" Look I get it your in MC, I just think there needs to be some more balance, if you want to be so neutral report from the other side too.
I like the podcast, I wouldn't be posting here and giving you this bump or downloaded the last 15 episodes if I didn't. I just wish people would get off the idea that goons are nothing but noobs in tech1 frigates or that we have to run behind RA's skirts every time a battle doesn't go our way. We run behind their skirts because there is generally vodka back there .
All right I've said my peace.
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Urban Mongral
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.09 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Seren Novae I listen to your show while I'm at work & I love it! Very entertaining.
Would be great to have interviews with CEOs, Director's or Eve personalities on corporate management, FC basics, how to fight wars in Empire & 0.0, what to look for when joining a corp, how to manage POS's, Eve-Voice protocol, what to do while being chased or bubbled, using the scanner etc...this is stuff I'd love to learn more about from the experts.
I'd also like to hear more anecdotes, when did you know you're 'hooked', what corps have you been in -how were they different, how has your experience and goals of Eve changed over time. It might also be interesting to have mini-debates eg. scamming is good/bad for Eve, should players be less anonymous/accountable, how would you improve blob warfare -topics often on the forum but short on intelligent & civil discussion.
I'd also be happy to listen to mini sci-fi stories perhaps which good voice acting *ahem* ^^. Failing that, tales of adventure & intrigue will suffice.
Keep up the good work!
Ummmm right, I guess I should book the next month or so off work to produce all that
Only kidding, theres some really good ideas there, we will see what we can do in the time available ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Barny Rouble
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Posted - 2007.10.09 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Seeheld
Originally by: Winterblink Really? We're anti-goon, since when?
When ever RSF or Goons in general are discussed it is always with the "LOL TECH1 Frigates" argument. You barely discuss the fact that RA/AAA/IAC knocked out your Titan within months of its unveiling. Mostly just a "well at least we use it"
There is no talk of the war in the south, you fail to mention that BoB has all but abandoned their pets to our incoming masses. k-9 is lost, CORM are on the run, RISE hasn't been able to use their stations in the RIT triangle for weeks and your own Alliance leader is fed up with BoB and their whole "chasing two rabbits" Look I get it your in MC, I just think there needs to be some more balance, if you want to be so neutral report from the other side too.
I like the podcast, I wouldn't be posting here and giving you this bump or downloaded the last 15 episodes if I didn't. I just wish people would get off the idea that goons are nothing but noobs in tech1 frigates or that we have to run behind RA's skirts every time a battle doesn't go our way. We run behind their skirts because there is generally vodka back there .
All right I've said my peace.
Does anyone have any cheese to go with this? 
Why not just be proud of your achievements (with Tech 1 Frigates)! 
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Seeheld
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.09 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Barny Rouble Does anyone have any cheese to go with this? 
Why not just be proud of your achievements (with Tech 1 Frigates)! 
I don't think that was a whine, I'm just pointing out the inaccuracies and bias that I see. All I'm asking for is a balanced show with reports from both sides.
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.09 17:22:00 -
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You guys should have some kind of recruitment/corporation running feature. I'm sure much of your listeners would enjoy that. Myess. ------------ Whiners - Unite! | Posting and You Tarminic - Forum Warfare Specialist. |

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.09 17:39:00 -
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oh noes! in my edit my point was lost and misunderstood! winterblink I was trying to say...
if you talk about goonies in a positive light at all you'll be called for hating bob. if you speak on BoB with any sort of positive light your anti-goon.
take eve TV for example when people got ****ed about too much BoB and then got ****ed about Goonies all in the span of a week.
there we go, that's much better. you can't make everybody happy I guess. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |

Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.09 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Seeheld I don't think that was a whine, I'm just pointing out the inaccuracies and bias that I see. All I'm asking for is a balanced show with reports from both sides.
Personally I didn't take it as a whine, and I don't think anyone else should either.
We talked about the south (well south-ish) to some extent, there's just not much in the way of new news happening. Nothing omgwtf!-like, anyway. Yes I'm in MC, and as such I get news from a particular perspective. But I also keep as much of an ear to the ground as I can on other affairs. Want your stuff covered? Tell the world about it more, since I'm not going to put alts in every major alliance to siphon news.
For the record, this last postcast, I'm pretty sure I was the one who pointed out the fact that tech1 frigates aren't the order of the day anymore. Still on the menu maybe, just not on the specials board.
Anyway, we can only cover what we hear about, and won't cover stuff we can't (to a reasonable extent) confirm as accurate.
Well that's my stance anyway. English people are weird though, so I make no excuses for Urban.
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DJTempest3K
Eve Radio Corporation Eve Radio Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.09 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Seren Novae I listen to your show while I'm at work & I love it! Very entertaining.
Would be great to have interviews with CEOs, Director's or Eve personalities on corporate management, FC basics, how to fight wars in Empire & 0.0, what to look for when joining a corp, how to manage POS's, Eve-Voice protocol, what to do while being chased or bubbled, using the scanner etc...this is stuff I'd love to learn more about from the experts.
I'd also like to hear more anecdotes, when did you know you're 'hooked', what corps have you been in -how were they different, how has your experience and goals of Eve changed over time. It might also be interesting to have mini-debates eg. scamming is good/bad for Eve, should players be less anonymous/accountable, how would you improve blob warfare -topics often on the forum but short on intelligent & civil discussion.
I'd also be happy to listen to mini sci-fi stories perhaps which good voice acting *ahem* ^^. Failing that, tales of adventure & intrigue will suffice.
Keep up the good work!
Whilst the podcast is great (Yes Urban & Winterblink, I do listen ) - it does only last for an hr or so a week.... anyone who wants to bring news etc to the airwaves could always drop me a line at EVE-Radio 
I'll stop thread hijacking now.... General Manager Gaming Radio Network www.gamingradio.net |

Seeheld
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.09 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Seeheld I don't think that was a whine, I'm just pointing out the inaccuracies and bias that I see. All I'm asking for is a balanced show with reports from both sides.
Personally I didn't take it as a whine, and I don't think anyone else should either.
We talked about the south (well south-ish) to some extent, there's just not much in the way of new news happening. Nothing omgwtf!-like, anyway. Yes I'm in MC, and as such I get news from a particular perspective. But I also keep as much of an ear to the ground as I can on other affairs. Want your stuff covered? Tell the world about it more, since I'm not going to put alts in every major alliance to siphon news.
For the record, this last postcast, I'm pretty sure I was the one who pointed out the fact that tech1 frigates aren't the order of the day anymore. Still on the menu maybe, just not on the specials board.
Anyway, we can only cover what we hear about, and won't cover stuff we can't (to a reasonable extent) confirm as accurate.
Well that's my stance anyway. English people are weird though, so I make no excuses for Urban.
No new news? How about the fact that CORM have been completely removed from their stations? I don't think I heard any mention of that?
I understand you can only really report on what you know about and since MC isn't really a factor ATM in the "deep south" (hehe) you don't have a full picture of what is going on. You could have mentioned the fact that MC lost its hold in the north though, I didn't hear anything about that.
Maybe you should look for some other sources of news besides just COAD, have you guys tried asking around for quotes, non-opsec information and such? I'm pretty sure if you would have asked CORM they could have confirmed that they blew up their own Cap Ship Array thinking the ships would then just come spilling out like some kind of spaceship pinata
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Derboff
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Posted - 2007.10.09 18:26:00 -
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As always wonderful pod cast, witty fun and diverting. Keep up all the good work.
I love your take on the news as it but I have a grumble... what was that terrible Dalek impersonation at the start. It was worse then the mexician accent from a few weeks ago... Project it... Project the EX-TERRR-MMMIN-AAATE... XXXX - TERRRR-MINNNN-AAATE
(sorry I am very protective about who or proper sci-fi as I call it )
Serious keep it up.. I will listen to you stop I promise.
Wibble wibble, flan and cheese
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.09 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Seeheld No new news? How about the fact that CORM have been completely removed from their stations? I don't think I heard any mention of that?
I understand you can only really report on what you know about and since MC isn't really a factor ATM in the "deep south" (hehe) you don't have a full picture of what is going on. You could have mentioned the fact that MC lost its hold in the north though, I didn't hear anything about that.
Maybe you should look for some other sources of news besides just COAD, have you guys tried asking around for quotes, non-opsec information and such? I'm pretty sure if you would have asked CORM they could have confirmed that they blew up their own Cap Ship Array thinking the ships would then just come spilling out like some kind of spaceship pinata
I could have sworn there was something about the whole CORM thing in this podcast. I can't remember though. That and my brain is half mush right now thanks to work.
CAOD's not the perfect place for news (I wonder who we have to thank for that, hmm? :D) but it's a decent barometer for what areas are worthy of attention. We're also more than willing to add details provided by players about things we've mentioned that may not have been fully fleshed out, as I've stated we can't be everywhere at all times. Well I know I can't, but Urban sometimes can after he eats two bites of a special Magic Haggis he makes (the secret is lots of herbs and fungii).
I guess what I'm saying is, we're not inflexible. :P
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Seeheld
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.09 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink I could have sworn there was something about the whole CORM thing in this podcast. I can't remember though. That and my brain is half mush right now thanks to work.
CAOD's not the perfect place for news (I wonder who we have to thank for that, hmm? :D) but it's a decent barometer for what areas are worthy of attention. We're also more than willing to add details provided by players about things we've mentioned that may not have been fully fleshed out, as I've stated we can't be everywhere at all times. Well I know I can't, but Urban sometimes can after he eats two bites of a special Magic Haggis he makes (the secret is lots of herbs and fungii).
I guess what I'm saying is, we're not inflexible. :P
You did talk about CORM blowing up their Cap Ships but you did it in a way to say "oh we don't really believe this" and Urban made some comment about the Weekly World News and such. All I'm saying is that I bet people would be willing to give you their story but you have to ask. Just but a little bit more :effort:
Anyway keep it up, I do enjoy the podcast (despite your bias ) but I think you guys can do better.
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Urban Mongral
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.09 18:49:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Seeheld
Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Seeheld I don't think that was a whine, I'm just pointing out the inaccuracies and bias that I see. All I'm asking for is a balanced show with reports from both sides.
Personally I didn't take it as a whine, and I don't think anyone else should either.
We talked about the south (well south-ish) to some extent, there's just not much in the way of new news happening. Nothing omgwtf!-like, anyway. Yes I'm in MC, and as such I get news from a particular perspective. But I also keep as much of an ear to the ground as I can on other affairs. Want your stuff covered? Tell the world about it more, since I'm not going to put alts in every major alliance to siphon news.
For the record, this last postcast, I'm pretty sure I was the one who pointed out the fact that tech1 frigates aren't the order of the day anymore. Still on the menu maybe, just not on the specials board.
Anyway, we can only cover what we hear about, and won't cover stuff we can't (to a reasonable extent) confirm as accurate.
Well that's my stance anyway. English people are weird though, so I make no excuses for Urban.
No new news? How about the fact that CORM have been completely removed from their stations? I don't think I heard any mention of that?
I understand you can only really report on what you know about and since MC isn't really a factor ATM in the "deep south" (hehe) you don't have a full picture of what is going on. You could have mentioned the fact that MC lost its hold in the north though, I didn't hear anything about that.
Maybe you should look for some other sources of news besides just COAD, have you guys tried asking around for quotes, non-opsec information and such? I'm pretty sure if you would have asked CORM they could have confirmed that they blew up their own Cap Ship Array thinking the ships would then just come spilling out like some kind of spaceship pinata
Well firstly while we do have informants in various corps who we talk to regally. This week unfortunately, as we mentioned in the show, we have been stupidly busy with RL work. Even with normal work schedules its still impossible for us to keep up with everything though. Nobody has ever claimed that WDA is the definitive source of all news in EVE (that's why we have the disclaimer in the first paragraph of every set of show notes)
Of course we would like to have dozens of informants and become "the BBC news" of EVE. In fact there is so much going on in New Eden, I think that somebody doing a daily news show would be an entirely practical proposition.
However its only practical for the people with the time and the access to do it properly and frankly that's not going to be Blinky or myself unless we can work out how to earn a living from the podcast. I'm pretty damn sure thats not going to happen!
However if you (or anyone else for that matter) wants to send us information about whats going on in your bit of EVE, please do. You can convo me in game if you want, send me eve mails or send emails to podcast(at)winterblink(dot)com and we will be sure to check them out.
(oh if anyone wants to employ us to do the podcast full time, get in touch) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hurry up and make me that sig you promised Winterblink! |

jam6549
Cold Blooded Killers
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Posted - 2007.10.09 20:03:00 -
[46]
kool 
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Micia
Minmatar N.A.S.A. Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2007.10.09 23:41:00 -
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lol Daleks. 
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Originally by: WarKain Vitest Oh and there is currently a titan tring to kill me in M-OEE8. Help 
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K Kinnison
Gallente Galactic Patrol Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.10 03:22:00 -
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Edited by: K Kinnison on 10/10/2007 03:23:21 A quick question for Urban...
Why do you keep pronouncing Tritanium as "Tritium" ???? I don't know a lot of the pronounciations in EVE, such as I thought Gallente was pronounced without the "E" at the end, but surely the "AN" in Tritanium is pronounced???
Just wondered!
K K.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.10 05:02:00 -
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Originally by: K Kinnison Edited by: K Kinnison on 10/10/2007 03:23:21 A quick question for Urban...
Why do you keep pronouncing Tritanium as "Tritium" ???? I don't know a lot of the pronounciations in EVE, such as I thought Gallente was pronounced without the "E" at the end, but surely the "AN" in Tritanium is pronounced???
Just wondered!
K K.
Hmmm... EVE pronounciations... sounds like an amusing topic to engage Urban in conversation about during the next podcast. :D
PS: I say it like "gallentay", not "gallent" like some weirdos do.
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K Kinnison
Gallente Galactic Patrol Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.10 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Hmmm... EVE pronounciations... sounds like an amusing topic to engage Urban in conversation about during the next podcast. :D
PS: I say it like "gallentay", not "gallent" like some weirdos do.
I suppose I always thought Gallente was maybe an old French word, and without the E acute at the end, it would be pronounced "Gallent" ! But it could be either way. I'd like to hear how Urban argues that the "AN" in tritanium is silent though :)
K K.
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Marahk T'or
Hand Of Muritor
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Posted - 2007.10.10 05:35:00 -
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The one that gets me is the whole "zero zero" vs. "nought point nought" thing. 
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When a government fails the people, a New Republic must be forged.
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Urban Mongral
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.10 07:30:00 -
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Edited by: Urban Mongral on 10/10/2007 07:30:01
Originally by: K Kinnison
Originally by: Winterblink
Hmmm... EVE pronounciations... sounds like an amusing topic to engage Urban in conversation about during the next podcast. :D
PS: I say it like "gallentay", not "gallent" like some weirdos do.
I suppose I always thought Gallente was maybe an old French word, and without the E acute at the end, it would be pronounced "Gallent" ! But it could be either way. I'd like to hear how Urban argues that the "AN" in tritanium is silent though :)
K K.
I use my usual "I prononce everything wrong" argument ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hurry up and make me that sig you promised Winterblink! |

Norwood Franskly
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Posted - 2007.10.10 08:06:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Tarminic You guys should have some kind of recruitment/corporation running feature. I'm sure much of your listeners would enjoy that. Myess.
Yeah you guys could charge people isk to have ads in your podcast :) I can picture it now the next weeks start up instead of the usual gag we get Winterblink in he's "serious" voice: "Today's warp drive active is bought to you by those good folks in corp x, whether you fly a battlship or a frigate x offers cheap deals on used space ships"...
Seriously though I think if you'd charged corps to advertise for recruits during your show people would probably take you up on it, partially solves Urban's problem about finding people to pay him to do the pod-cast too 
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Malcum Blakhurst
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Posted - 2007.10.10 11:38:00 -
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I do believe that in the tanking guide in episode #14 Urban stated that the shield compensation skills increase the resistances of your shield by a percentage. This is not entirely accurate as what they actually do is increase the percentage benefit gained from using passive hardeners by 5% and active hardeners by 3% (when not actively hardening).
/me sets off a small concussion grenade which by shear fluke provides enough force to 'nudge' the WDA post back to the first page.
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Imperius Blackheart
Caldari Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.10 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: Imperius Blackheart on 10/10/2007 13:35:02 Great to have you guys back, thank you.
One small inaccuracy that i'm 99% sure i'm right on that I noticed mentioned a few times. Wreck bumping IIRC was solved a patch or two ago, and now wrecks don't stop you alligning. The bumping that must have gone on of the MC titan I imagine was fast ships ramming it. I think that it would allign as if wrecks weren't there.
But that does raise another issue, while I have been in gangs that have used bumping to kill capitals, knocking them away from outposts the thing can confuses me is Vagabond/Crow etc knocking a Thanatos out of the way. Ships smaller or the same size as its fighters drones pushing it out of the way rather than bouncing off it. The physics of that one is something I have trouble suspending the belief of in game.
Well like I said thanks for the podcast and its great to have you back and doing your thing, I hope real life remains managable :)
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.10 13:37:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Imperius Blackheart Edited by: Imperius Blackheart on 10/10/2007 13:35:02 Great to have you guys back, thank you.
One small inaccuracy that i'm 99% sure i'm right on that I noticed mentioned a few times. Wreck bumping IIRC was solved a patch or two ago, and now wrecks don't stop you alligning. The bumping that must have gone on of the MC titan I imagine was fast ships ramming it. I think that it would allign as if wrecks weren't there.
But that does raise another issue, while I have been in gangs that have used bumping to kill capitals, knocking them away from outposts the thing can confuses me is Vagabond/Crow etc knocking a Thanatos out of the way. Ships smaller or the same size as its fighters drones pushing it out of the way rather than bouncing off it. The physics of that one is something I have trouble suspending the belief of in game.
Well like I said thanks for the podcast and its great to have you back and doing your thing, I hope real life remains managable :)
Well the bumping thing I was speaking about was ship bumping. Urban's the one hung up on wreck bumping. :)
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.10 14:08:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Imperius Blackheart Edited by: Imperius Blackheart on 10/10/2007 13:35:02 Great to have you guys back, thank you.
One small inaccuracy that i'm 99% sure i'm right on that I noticed mentioned a few times. Wreck bumping IIRC was solved a patch or two ago, and now wrecks don't stop you alligning. The bumping that must have gone on of the MC titan I imagine was fast ships ramming it. I think that it would allign as if wrecks weren't there.
But that does raise another issue, while I have been in gangs that have used bumping to kill capitals, knocking them away from outposts the thing can confuses me is Vagabond/Crow etc knocking a Thanatos out of the way. Ships smaller or the same size as its fighters drones pushing it out of the way rather than bouncing off it. The physics of that one is something I have trouble suspending the belief of in game.
Well like I said thanks for the podcast and its great to have you back and doing your thing, I hope real life remains managable :)
Well the bumping thing I was speaking about was ship bumping. Urban's the one hung up on wreck bumping. :)
good to know then that in the oatch notes wreck bumping was taken out a while ago :) ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |

Urban Mongral
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.10 16:56:00 -
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God dammit, looks like the apology of the week section will be huge this week! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hurry up and make me that sig you promised Winterblink! |

Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.10 17:41:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Urban Mongral God dammit, looks like the apology of the week section will be huge this week!
Might as well start recording it now, and just add as you go through the week reading this thread. :D
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Nox'Beldrath
Mayven Omni Gestalt
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Posted - 2007.10.10 17:58:00 -
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I will be accepting apologies in monetary form. 10mil per word. ____________ M.O.G. Army |
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