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Jita TradeAlt	Posted - 2007.10.08 23:55:00 - [1] Personally I really, really do not enjoy spending hours hitting scan to find what's basically mission sites and I've yet to find anyone that actually enjoys it. Honestly though, I really hate it the most since i discourages pvp even more in a game that badly needs more areas where pvp should be a significant component to the gameplay. Anyone here actually enjoy exploration apart from as a diversion from ratting/missions once in a while?
Jita TradeAlt	Posted - 2007.10.08 23:55:00 - [2] Personally I really, really do not enjoy spending hours hitting scan to find what's basically mission sites and I've yet to find anyone that actually enjoys it. Honestly though, I really hate it the most since i discourages pvp even more in a game that badly needs more areas where pvp should be a significant component to the gameplay. Anyone here actually enjoy exploration apart from as a diversion from ratting/missions once in a while?
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.10.08 23:58:00 - [3] This might be a crazy, out of the blue radical idea, but have you considered.... doing something else? Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.10.08 23:58:00 - [4] This might be a crazy, out of the blue radical idea, but have you considered.... doing something else? Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Alexis Machine Minmatar Ceraphite Technologies	Posted - 2007.10.08 23:59:00 - [5] I enjoy it.
Alexis Machine Minmatar Ceraphite Technologies	Posted - 2007.10.08 23:59:00 - [6] I enjoy it.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:00:00 - [7] I would rather see them do away with jita trade alts Originally by: Akita T No, it's a trap ! I can tell from some of the modules and from seeing quite a few traps in my time...
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:00:00 - [8] I would rather see them do away with jita trade alts Originally by: Akita T No, it's a trap ! I can tell from some of the modules and from seeing quite a few traps in my time...
I SoStoned	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:01:00 - [9] Future patches are slated to remove 'anomalies' into their own scan identity group and maintain all encounter scan grouptypes for all scanning rather than just the multispectral probe. I have also given up exploration due to the insane lengths of time to find anything. I am willing to accept one version of the current system - few first run results or insanely long scan times (145 seconds with top skills & rigs, or 97 seconds with a few billion worth of implants). One of these or the other is satisfactory, if annoying, but both and the inability to filter out useless 'encounter' sites makes exploration pointless IMO.
I SoStoned	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:01:00 - [10] Future patches are slated to remove 'anomalies' into their own scan identity group and maintain all encounter scan grouptypes for all scanning rather than just the multispectral probe. I have also given up exploration due to the insane lengths of time to find anything. I am willing to accept one version of the current system - few first run results or insanely long scan times (145 seconds with top skills & rigs, or 97 seconds with a few billion worth of implants). One of these or the other is satisfactory, if annoying, but both and the inability to filter out useless 'encounter' sites makes exploration pointless IMO.
Jita TradeAlt	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:09:00 - [11] Originally by: Alexis Machine I enjoy it. you enjoy hitting the scan button every 3-4 mins for a couple hours? and this as your only activity in a full screen'ed eve, not doing anything else but exploration?
Jita TradeAlt	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:09:00 - [12] Originally by: Alexis Machine I enjoy it. you enjoy hitting the scan button every 3-4 mins for a couple hours? and this as your only activity in a full screen'ed eve, not doing anything else but exploration?
Jimer Lins Gallente	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:11:00 - [13] Originally by: Jita TradeAlt Personally I really, really do not enjoy spending hours hitting scan to find what's basically mission sites and I've yet to find anyone that actually enjoys it. Honestly though, I really hate it the most since i discourages pvp even more in a game that badly needs more areas where pvp should be a significant component to the gameplay. Anyone here actually enjoy exploration apart from as a diversion from ratting/missions once in a while? I enjoy it immensely, it's about the only thing I do. Why do it if you don't enjoy it? Go do something else. I fail to see how it discourages PVP. -- EVE Glossary Exploration Video
Mirirar Solstice Systems Development Concourse	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:11:00 - [14] Originally by: Jita TradeAlt Personally I really, really do not enjoy spending hours hitting scan So don't. Do something else, and we'll continue with it.
Jimer Lins Gallente	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:11:00 - [15] Originally by: Jita TradeAlt Personally I really, really do not enjoy spending hours hitting scan to find what's basically mission sites and I've yet to find anyone that actually enjoys it. Honestly though, I really hate it the most since i discourages pvp even more in a game that badly needs more areas where pvp should be a significant component to the gameplay. Anyone here actually enjoy exploration apart from as a diversion from ratting/missions once in a while? I enjoy it immensely, it's about the only thing I do. Why do it if you don't enjoy it? Go do something else. I fail to see how it discourages PVP. -- EVE Glossary Exploration Video
Mirirar Solstice Systems Development Concourse	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:11:00 - [16] Originally by: Jita TradeAlt Personally I really, really do not enjoy spending hours hitting scan So don't. Do something else, and we'll continue with it.
Jita TradeAlt	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:13:00 - [17] Originally by: Jimer Lins Originally by: Jita TradeAlt Personally I really, really do not enjoy spending hours hitting scan to find what's basically mission sites and I've yet to find anyone that actually enjoys it. Honestly though, I really hate it the most since i discourages pvp even more in a game that badly needs more areas where pvp should be a significant component to the gameplay. Anyone here actually enjoy exploration apart from as a diversion from ratting/missions once in a while? I enjoy it immensely, it's about the only thing I do. Why do it if you don't enjoy it? Go do something else. I fail to see how it discourages PVP. locking peolpe up in incredibly hard to find deadspace pockets that no solo pvp'er is ever going to be able to scan down on his own? you don't see how that discourages pvp? Have you ever been killed in an exploration plex by a player? Thought so.
Jita TradeAlt	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:13:00 - [18] Originally by: Jimer Lins Originally by: Jita TradeAlt Personally I really, really do not enjoy spending hours hitting scan to find what's basically mission sites and I've yet to find anyone that actually enjoys it. Honestly though, I really hate it the most since i discourages pvp even more in a game that badly needs more areas where pvp should be a significant component to the gameplay. Anyone here actually enjoy exploration apart from as a diversion from ratting/missions once in a while? I enjoy it immensely, it's about the only thing I do. Why do it if you don't enjoy it? Go do something else. I fail to see how it discourages PVP. locking peolpe up in incredibly hard to find deadspace pockets that no solo pvp'er is ever going to be able to scan down on his own? you don't see how that discourages pvp? Have you ever been killed in an exploration plex by a player? Thought so.
Jimer Lins Gallente	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:16:00 - [19] Originally by: Jita TradeAlt Originally by: Jimer Lins Originally by: Jita TradeAlt Personally I really, really do not enjoy spending hours hitting scan to find what's basically mission sites and I've yet to find anyone that actually enjoys it. Honestly though, I really hate it the most since i discourages pvp even more in a game that badly needs more areas where pvp should be a significant component to the gameplay. Anyone here actually enjoy exploration apart from as a diversion from ratting/missions once in a while? I enjoy it immensely, it's about the only thing I do. Why do it if you don't enjoy it? Go do something else. I fail to see how it discourages PVP. locking peolpe up in incredibly hard to find deadspace pockets that no solo pvp'er is ever going to be able to scan down on his own? you don't see how that discourages pvp? Have you ever been killed in an exploration plex by a player? Thought so. Plenty of people scan down mission runners. The info on how to do it isn't hard to find. If you want easy targets, go for the mining plexes in lowsec. They're not deadspace and miners tend not to be able to put up a fight. -- EVE Glossary Exploration Video
Jita TradeAlt	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:22:00 - [20] Originally by: Jimer Lins Originally by: Jita TradeAlt Originally by: Jimer Lins Originally by: Jita TradeAlt Personally I really, really do not enjoy spending hours hitting scan to find what's basically mission sites and I've yet to find anyone that actually enjoys it. Honestly though, I really hate it the most since i discourages pvp even more in a game that badly needs more areas where pvp should be a significant component to the gameplay. Anyone here actually enjoy exploration apart from as a diversion from ratting/missions once in a while? I enjoy it immensely, it's about the only thing I do. Why do it if you don't enjoy it? Go do something else. I fail to see how it discourages PVP. locking peolpe up in incredibly hard to find deadspace pockets that no solo pvp'er is ever going to be able to scan down on his own? you don't see how that discourages pvp? Have you ever been killed in an exploration plex by a player? Thought so. Plenty of people scan down mission runners. The info on how to do it isn't hard to find. If you want easy targets, go for the mining plexes in lowsec. They're not deadspace and miners tend not to be able to put up a fight. i dont want easy targets, i want something worth killing. and why do people bother with mining exploration sites? there are more 0.0 belts of the best ores than you can count. killing mission runners usually takes a cov ops alt to do, everyone else in eve only takes a quick directional scan to kill. if there were stats then i'd be like 70% killed on gates or in belts, 29,9% at pos, 0,1% in mission/exploration deadspaces.
Alexis Machine Minmatar Ceraphite Technologies	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:23:00 - [21] Originally by: Jita TradeAlt Originally by: Alexis Machine I enjoy it. you enjoy hitting the scan button every 3-4 mins for a couple hours? and this as your only activity in a full screen'ed eve, not doing anything else but exploration? Um.. yes.
Jita TradeAlt	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:24:00 - [22] Originally by: Alexis Machine Originally by: Jita TradeAlt Originally by: Alexis Machine I enjoy it. you enjoy hitting the scan button every 3-4 mins for a couple hours? and this as your only activity in a full screen'ed eve, not doing anything else but exploration? Um.. yes. I guess there are people that enjoy watching their life tick away just because some developers wanted a timesink in their game..
Alexis Machine Minmatar Ceraphite Technologies	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:27:00 - [23] Originally by: Jita TradeAlt Originally by: Alexis Machine Originally by: Jita TradeAlt Originally by: Alexis Machine I enjoy it. you enjoy hitting the scan button every 3-4 mins for a couple hours? and this as your only activity in a full screen'ed eve, not doing anything else but exploration? Um.. yes. I guess there are people that enjoy watching their life tick away just because some developers wanted a timesink in their game.. Well.. some people mine.
Jita TradeAlt	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:27:00 - [24] Originally by: Alexis Machine Originally by: Jita TradeAlt Originally by: Alexis Machine Originally by: Jita TradeAlt Originally by: Alexis Machine I enjoy it. you enjoy hitting the scan button every 3-4 mins for a couple hours? and this as your only activity in a full screen'ed eve, not doing anything else but exploration? Um.. yes. I guess there are people that enjoy watching their life tick away just because some developers wanted a timesink in their game.. Well.. some people mine. Hah, those are macros buddy.
Alexis Machine Minmatar Ceraphite Technologies	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:33:00 - [25] lol. perhaps. But rest assured there are hundreds of players that actively mine. And do exploration. Just because you, personally, aren't interested in certain aspects of the game doesn't mean other people aren't. So.. Instead of saying "hey, I don't like to do this, lets just delete it!" how about we find a way to compliment each others play styles?
I SoStoned	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:34:00 - [26] Originally by: Jita TradeAlt locking peolpe up in incredibly hard to find deadspace pockets that no solo pvp'er is ever going to be able to scan down on his own? you don't see how that discourages pvp? Have you ever been killed in an exploration plex by a player? Thought so. Yes, I have. I have also scanned down people in exploration sites. It's difficult, but if you know how to do it you can scan them down about as quickly as you might a mission runner, or someone safespotted in normal space as long as they are not vigilant watching their local scanner.
Sirial Soulfly	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:35:00 - [27] Friend of mine enjoys it very much, he loves scanning down stuff in enemy territory
Jita TradeAlt	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:37:00 - [28] So you guys prefer wasting 20 minutes to 3 hours on probing down sites, instead of having them with beacon and static like it used to be?
Jimer Lins Gallente	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:38:00 - [29] Originally by: Jita TradeAlt So you guys prefer wasting 20 minutes to 3 hours on probing down sites, instead of having them with beacon and static like it used to be? Yes. -- EVE Glossary Exploration Video
bldyannoyed Un4seen Development	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:41:00 - [30] FFS man. People are telling you they like exploration. Surely that puts an end to your argument?

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