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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.10 12:46:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 10/10/2007 12:46:33
So...basically...it's a guy, saying all things but PVP should be removed? 
Must be monday...i hate mondays...
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Theo Samaritan
Gallente
Pheonix Reborn
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Posted - 2007.10.10 13:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Jita TradeAlt
Originally by: Theo Samaritan
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You think waiting 5 times as long as necessary for a probe result is "work" over just a complete waste of time?
Considering I use the time for more than just sitting on my ass waiting for the probes to finish, yes I do see it as work. I have a small army of newbies to train and organise 
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Zarack Spitstoor
Caldari
Lewis and Clark Exploration
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Posted - 2007.10.10 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: gaz widdow
Imgine space as it should be empty dark cold and lonley you reach the borders of known space you scan find a abnormaity ok you go check it out its a natural wormhole pretty much how eve started. You go through and theres a system not on anyones map but yours, being as your the first to find it, now the wormhole isnt stable so it moves around say after every dt and it has a limited number of how many times it could be used before it colapses.
To impliment this it would mean the building of stargates which I think as been on the cards for a while now and ships that has jump drive abilites. Strange how we have those now and more comming.
I like part of this idea but I also quite like how exploration works now and I'd hate to see it dumbed down to the point where sites could be farmed. I like the randomness of exploring, and the sense of freedom from going anywhere I want, but never really sure where I will end up.
Removing exploration wont stop people who want to explore, before having any probe skills I still liked knowing what people were hiding in systems. As for pvp, some people have expressed an interest in using my probe skills in that context so people do have fun with both.
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Green Cobra
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Posted - 2007.10.10 15:37:00 -
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As I see it the main issue with exploration for complexes is:
1. In most cases scanning down a site takes more isk in probes than you get in rewards.
2. There is no way of seeing if the signature is a 1/10 or a 5/10 plex. 
Solutions:
1. Some kind of change in the dificulty to scan down a site from what DED rating.
2. A option to scan with multiprobe for a special type of signature, like scanning for 4/10 plexes.
Same ideas whould be good for all types of exploration sites. |
Zarack Spitstoor
Caldari
Lewis and Clark Exploration
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Posted - 2007.10.10 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Green Cobra
1. In most cases scanning down a site takes more isk in probes than you get in rewards.
I think I'd like to see the rewards beefed up so this is no longer the case.
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Jita TradeAlt
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Posted - 2007.10.10 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Allan Robertson
Originally by: Jita TradeAlt
Personally I really, really do not enjoy spending hours hitting scan to find what's basically mission sites and I've yet to find anyone that actually enjoys it. Honestly though, I really hate it the most since i discourages pvp even more in a game that badly needs more areas where pvp should be a significant component to the gameplay.
Anyone here actually enjoy exploration apart from as a diversion from ratting/missions once in a while?
Then don't do it, I know many people who have got millions of ISK from exploration.
You know what, I wouldn't really mind that much if it wasn't for the fact that it puts carebears in carefree deadspace pockets where i cant kill them. Eve is a pvp game first and foremost after all.
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2007.10.10 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jita TradeAlt
Originally by: Allan Robertson
Then don't do it, I know many people who have got millions of ISK from exploration.
You know what, I wouldn't really mind that much if it wasn't for the fact that it puts carebears in carefree deadspace pockets where i cant kill them. Eve is a pvp game first and foremost after all.
I look forward to your upcoming thought-provoking threads on eliminating missions, cloaks, Local, hisec, NPC corps, logouts, and stations with great interest.
In the meantime, choose that nifty "Ships" group in your scanner. I hear people are using it to scan ships and kill carefree carebears.
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Jonak
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.10 19:32:00 -
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After all of that training I don't even explore anymore. The changes that came with the Rev II patch has made it pretty worthless in my opinion. I throw out a probe every so often but I have yet to ever get a mag or radar hit. Not in hi sec. Not in low sec. Just bad luck I guess. 
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Naran Darkmood
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.10 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jita TradeAlt
Personally I really, really do not enjoy spending hours hitting scan to find what's basically mission sites and I've yet to find anyone that actually enjoys it. Honestly though, I really hate it the most since i discourages pvp even more in a game that badly needs more areas where pvp should be a significant component to the gameplay.
Anyone here actually enjoy exploration apart from as a diversion from ratting/missions once in a while?
Yes, please scrap all this scanning crap and give me my nvulnaerable low sec missions again. I hate PvP [/sarcasm off]
Originally by: jongalt
perhaps PvP is to be taken literally? Player vs. Player (no plural, but quite the Singular) instead of AvA (alliance vs. alliance), or CvC (corp vs corp).
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.10 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jita TradeAlt
You know what, I wouldn't really mind that much if it wasn't for the fact that it puts carebears in carefree deadspace pockets where i cant kill them. Eve is a pvp game first and foremost after all.
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Zarack Spitstoor
Caldari
Lewis and Clark Exploration
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Posted - 2007.10.10 23:06:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Jita TradeAlt
You know what, I wouldn't really mind that much if it wasn't for the fact that it puts carebears in carefree deadspace pockets where i cant kill them. Eve is a pvp game first and foremost after all.
hehe. this does sound like a "get those noobs out here where i can pwn them" post. As a 100% explorer I'm very interested in getting into lowsec, I cant wait. I'm also interested in using my skills to help friends hunt down troublesome players and scout ahead. 
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MT Numerator
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Posted - 2007.10.11 00:40:00 -
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Now that we all know the OP is just whining missing the days of easy money/loot, this thread has served its purpose.
Someone should lock it and put it out of its misery. 
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Jita TradeAlt
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Posted - 2007.10.22 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: MT Numerator
Now that we all know the OP is just whining missing the days of easy money/loot, this thread has served its purpose.
Someone should lock it and put it out of its misery.
or maybe hes trying to point out to people that the time/reward factor in exploration is on average silly(shut up about your friend of a friend that once got this cool thing in an exploration plex, it's not enough to pull up the average) and since some of us have lives then taking a few hours to hit scan in an internet spaceship game is silly, while static plexes where actually fun! Gosh, fun in a game?!
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.10.22 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jita TradeAlt
Originally by: MT Numerator
Now that we all know the OP is just whining missing the days of easy money/loot, this thread has served its purpose.
Someone should lock it and put it out of its misery.
or maybe hes trying to point out to people that the time/reward factor in exploration is on average silly(shut up about your friend of a friend that once got this cool thing in an exploration plex, it's not enough to pull up the average) and since some of us have lives then taking a few hours to hit scan in an internet spaceship game is silly, while static plexes where actually fun! Gosh, fun in a game?!
I, too, feel that the risk -v- reward is a little skewed, as is the time -v- reward. As CCP moves away from static spawns and toward dynamic exploration sites, it's imperative that they work to make exploration more efficient and consistent.
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