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d026 THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:19:00 - [1] So finaly after probing this biatch out, i managed to complete it. It only took me 8 hours to scann and run it. It is probably the hardest plex i have ever seen. +10k dmg aoe and a nice cute 30bs spawn on top of you. And what did i get as reward? The overseer dropp: 1 x 150mm railgun, 200 Iron S, 1 x Prototype Cargo Scanner. Including the bounty i made like well over 50mil. 50 MIL FOR THE ******* HARDEST PLEX OUT THERE? Not even a overseer effect? Nothing? I can get +50 mil from a crappy Radar plex, i manage to scann thes out within 1h max + 1h max hacking. This is utterly crap CCP. +10/10 difficulty and not even a overseer effect. Small railguns from a 3928472839k hp structure dealing 10k kinetic damage? CCP BOOST THOSE PLEXES PLEASE!
d026 THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.09 00:21:00 - [2] AND the funniest thign is.. i just got a dg invul field in a 0.8 system while runing a lvl 4 guri vaganza while i was accumulating lp to be able to get me those nice scanning implants.. Thats so ******!
Great Artista Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.10.09 04:00:00 - [3] k _______ Do yuo liek stabbers? ◕◡◕
Jei'son Bladesmith The Storm Knights	Posted - 2007.10.09 05:50:00 - [4] Ya but look at the bright side.... .... .... .... ok i got nothin I ♥ Cake...☼☼☼...12 Seconds
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.10.09 06:38:00 - [5] Serpentis Provincial HQ is almost just as bad. Last time someone I knew ran it they got a Shadow Serpentis spawn at the end that only dropped a Large Shadow Serp Armor Repper, which is a crap faction mod. ----------------------------------------------------
KoolKrewl	Posted - 2007.10.09 09:39:00 - [6] Yay for new content brought to you by ccp????
d026 THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.09 10:22:00 - [7] Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith Ya but look at the bright side.... .... .... .... ok i got nothin well it was fun running it. posguns the ueber smartbom the nice 30bs boobytrap. but it just bothers me that for all the time, isk, risk (you wont be able to tank dis damage in a tII fited ship you need some juicy faction/deadspace tank or several logistics) involved, you do not even get a overseereffect like in the ded plexes..
Brixer Dai Dai Hai	Posted - 2007.10.09 11:09:00 - [8] Not trying to be a smartass or anything, but isn't this a plex type that might escalate ? In which case you might get a Shadow at the end of each location and deadspace loot at the final location.
d026 THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.09 11:45:00 - [9] Originally by: Brixer Not trying to be a smartass or anything, but isn't this a plex type that might escalate ? In which case you might get a Shadow at the end of each location and deadspace loot at the final location. Yeah you are right the HQ "can" escalate. I have yet to see a site that escalates tough. Also considering the difficulty of this site (its like 15/10 compared to the pith 10/10) you want to get something worthwhile. Also there are simpler ways to get faction spawns/items such as belt ratting, high sec lvl 4 missions and the new cosmic anomalies. What you have to take into account is also the following: + Chance to find the site + Probing (chance based can take hours) + Possible losses due to gate camps/probers (and you are at high risk flying a pimped out faction pve ship to those insanely hard sites:) + Possible losses due to plex difficulty + Chance of a Faction Spawn + Chance to get something worthwhile from the Faction spawn (not justa tag and 1k faction ammo) + Escalation chance + Chance to get another Faction Spawn. etc.. This is a lot of risk and effort just to have a slim probability of getting a usually not very expensive faction item you could acquire easily while doing less difficult tasks.
Veng3ance New Dawn Rising Synchr0nicity	Posted - 2007.10.09 15:28:00 - [10] I absolutely agree! Escalation sites have been broken since the day they **en came out! EVERY SINGLE 0.0 escalation plex I have run has been MUCH harder then a 10/10 complex. They should drop overseers items at the very least. Or one deadspace mod at the end of each escalation. I dont think this is un-reasonable at all, it can take upwards of 12 hours to find and complete even one escalation. And for a whole "expedition" it can take days of work. They should be worth more then level 4 missions at least! ** MISSIONS!
Reverend Revelator Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.10.09 18:32:00 - [11] What D026 completely fails to realize is that.... Nope, I got nothing here either. These plexes are stupid hard to do for stupid little reward, period. Fix would be nice. -- Dead People Laugh At The Murder Of Love --
Nixar	Posted - 2007.10.09 19:11:00 - [12] I'd be quite amused to see if anyone can make a valid counter point to the unbalance of exploration complexes.
eXtas 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.10.09 19:18:00 - [13] yeah you wont get anything out of them unless they escalate... dont know what the chance is nowdays but I gave up a long time ago got some nice pith stuff but it was like 1/30 that gave some loot... but it was still fun doing them without any idea what to expect and geting sent around 3 regions in hostile space -------- need new sig :(
ardik TunkbwahCorp	Posted - 2007.10.10 19:35:00 - [14] Originally by: Nixar I'd be quite amused to see if anyone can make a valid counter point to the unbalance of exploration complexes. Its a good idea, but CCP definitely need to make them much, much easier to find and the rewards more consistent.
Igetshotalot THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.10 22:25:00 - [15] Originally by: ardik Originally by: Nixar I'd be quite amused to see if anyone can make a valid counter point to the unbalance of exploration complexes. Its a good idea, but CCP definitely need to make them much, much easier to find and the rewards more consistent. Just make the reward appropriate. I just did a Guristas Military Complex. Imho those escalation sites are a lot of fun to do. Unfortunately i couldn't extract any useful loot -.-
d026 THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.11 00:51:00 - [16] Edited by: d026 on 11/10/2007 00:52:10 Me and Igetshotalot finished the Guristas Military Complex. It escalated several times before we hit the Dead End. We killed 4 Dread Guristas but unfortunately only 1 dropped a (cheap) faction item. The whole expedition took us like 10-15 hours. The rewards were as follows: Approx 50-60 mil in bounties for each. 1000 x Guristas Iron Charge L = 1 mil 3 x Dread Guristas Crystal Tag = 1 mil 1 x Dread Guristas Diamond Tag = 1 mil 1 x Dread Guristas Kinetic Defflection Amp = 15 mil I am aware that each of those Dreads could have dropped a invul field. But again the chance seems in favor of not getting anything at all.. Anyway this is a EXTREMELY BAD ISK/H ratio. Its not nearly as good as 1.0 LvL 3 whoring.. I really hope CCP looks into those escalation sites and buffs the reward. Even tough they are fun to do at the end you feel bitter not getting at least something worth for the time spent..
Kurst I Simtech Productions Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.11 12:06:00 - [17] What I'd like to know: has any of u ever been into a 10/10? Seriously, Prov HQ is a pain in the 4ss if u want to solo it, but easily doable with the help of only one more guy. I did it 3 or 4 times so far and didn't get an escalation or dread loot, but nevertheless it's fun But it shouldnt take u hours to find it, as it is a base 3 combat site afaik (I know, there is no "base x" for combat sites, but they seem to be differentiable by their base strength which seem to be 2,1 and 0.5 with sifts). However, Prov HQ is definitely a bit harder than a 6/10, but I also saw The Maze (10/10) for a few times, and compared to that, Prov HQ is a piece of cake. I'd really love to see Prov HQ or Military HQ (not sure about name, something with "military"...) escalate one day though Kurst I
d026 THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.11 12:22:00 - [18] Originally by: Kurst I What I'd like to know: has any of u ever been into a 10/10? Seriously, Prov HQ is a pain in the 4ss if u want to solo it, but easily doable with the help of only one more guy. I did it 3 or 4 times so far and didn't get an escalation or dread loot, but nevertheless it's fun But it shouldnt take u hours to find it, as it is a base 3 combat site afaik (I know, there is no "base x" for combat sites, but they seem to be differentiable by their base strength which seem to be 2,1 and 0.5 with sifts). However, Prov HQ is definitely a bit harder than a 6/10, but I also saw The Maze (10/10) for a few times, and compared to that, Prov HQ is a piece of cake. I'd really love to see Prov HQ or Military HQ (not sure about name, something with "military"...) escalate one day though Kurst I How do you run the HQ solo? I couldnt tank the dps as long as the Siege Sentrys are still alive. So i needed my osprey alt:) Mind sharing your setup/shiptype?
eXtas 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.10.11 13:13:00 - [19] its usually about ships and setups, personaly for for guristas exploration I run a ishtar that can tank something stupid like 3k kin damage.. and most stuff miss when it moves :) The Maze (10/10) was not hard at all after you find out to tank it with a plated smartbombing bs.. its all about the right setup and bringing some help if needed.. tho sharing the exploration loot and bountys will make lowsec rating more profitable :P atm you just have to accept that combat exploration is for fun and not any isk/gold mine -------- need new sig :(
Kurst I Simtech Productions Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.11 13:27:00 - [20] pain in the ass = not tankable in raven = warp out few times at least not for me, but i have to admit i stopped training caldari after 2 months and started gallente, but still use raven for PVE although my skills are mostly at 3 for caldari ships
ardik TunkbwahCorp	Posted - 2007.10.18 20:21:00 - [21] no exploration is meant to be time-consuming, unrewarding, hard to do, needing months of skills and challenging, it keeps competition down
Brixer Dai Dai Hai	Posted - 2007.10.21 20:35:00 - [22] In fact.. These plexes can't really be compared from one run to another. The rats who spawn are a bit random. I probed down a Sansha Military Complex and there where 16 Centus Dread Lords there. Not to hard to do I thought, but didn't have time to run it until the day after. Well.. The day aftet those Dread Lords had left and there was Centus Tyrants there instead. Almost got my dual repper domi ass wiped off the map, but got an oneiros friend helping me on the second run. 75M in bounties, 1 True Sansha BS spawn later we where done, no escalation. The point is.. You can't really know if you can solo these until you warp in to see what number the random generator selected.
Ma Eies	Posted - 2007.10.22 00:15:00 - [23] Don't waste your time with these plexes, there's almost no profit to be found, especially if you lose ships to the insane dps
Castor IV 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.10.22 02:16:00 - [24] We did Serpentis Provincial HQ just a few days ago, and I must say this was the first and last time I'm running this kind of plex. With the time to scan it down to completing it with 3-4 ppl (some ppl actually have a RL) it took us 10 hours. It had 5 escalations, and about 20-25 jumps all over fountain. The last escalation was insane, about 30+ battleships plus support, if ppl think a 10/10 is difficult they have never runned this thingy its crazy. Atleast we got something for the hard work. Had several Shadow serpentis spawns with some half ass lot and a final 30 million+ bounty officer that droped a Core X-type plate. I will not thank CCP for the lot since in my opinion its not worth the effort we had to put into this to complete this, but I will thank them for the logistic ships they do rock.
ardik TunkbwahCorp	Posted - 2007.10.22 02:53:00 - [25] Originally by: Castor IV We did Serpentis Provincial HQ just a few days ago, and I must say this was the first and last time I'm running this kind of plex. With the time to scan it down to completing it with 3-4 ppl (some ppl actually have a RL) it took us 10 hours. It had 5 escalations, and about 20-25 jumps all over fountain. The last escalation was insane, about 30+ battleships plus support, if ppl think a 10/10 is difficult they have never runned this thingy its crazy. Atleast we got something for the hard work. Had several Shadow serpentis spawns with some half ass lot and a final 30 million+ bounty officer that droped a Core X-type plate. I will not thank CCP for the lot since in my opinion its not worth the effort we had to put into this to complete this, but I will thank them for the logistic ships they do rock. No man, 10 hours is perfectly viable for whats basically some horrible L5 mission sites. It keeps competition down you see and if you dont want the loot jsut more for me
Castor IV 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.10.22 08:47:00 - [26] Originally by: ardik No man, 10 hours is perfectly viable for whats basically some horrible L5 mission sites. It keeps competition down you see and if you dont want the loot jsut more for me Well you are welcome to have them for your self, because with the lot they are dropping compared to the 10 hours it took to run it. I rather run a 10/10 in 1-2 hours or go through belts looking for officers.
ardik TunkbwahCorp	Posted - 2007.10.22 15:56:00 - [27] Originally by: Castor IV Originally by: ardik No man, 10 hours is perfectly viable for whats basically some horrible L5 mission sites. It keeps competition down you see and if you dont want the loot jsut more for me Well you are welcome to have them for your self, because with the lot they are dropping compared to the 10 hours it took to run it. I rather run a 10/10 in 1-2 hours or go through belts looking for officers. No you see it was sarcasm :x
Sino Necromonger	Posted - 2007.10.29 20:28:00 - [28] So, whith al this in mind, is it worth me even contemplating the Angel Provinical HQ??
Merrick Solipsus D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.30 04:50:00 - [29] I have run this plex twice in the last few days. I use a Rokh with BS5 and 2 kinetic hardeners. The big smartbomb barely registers on my shield. As far as rat damage, my alt running 2 remote reppers in his Basilisk can easily keep me alive. The Dread Gurista at the end is just like any other DG when it comes to chances with faction drops. My first run it dropped a 3 run DG Large Tower BPC. Second time was nothing. Personally I really like this plex.
Ammoina University of Caille	Posted - 2007.10.30 07:08:00 - [30] Its exploration. Sometimes it comes up sevens, sometimes it comes up snake eyes. Just because it came up snake eyes does not mean the plex needs a boost. Go roll the dice a few more times.

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