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Zubakis
Bambooule TALIONIS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2007.10.10 12:21:00 -
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Do you think that size of guns is proportinal to size of ship-models?
Somehow when i look for example at the Megathron, i get the feeling that this thing cant hurt me with its mini guns. And when i look at the Moros and see it's big-fat-massive guns, i get an impression of pain.
I would love to see some bigger gun batteries on the subcapital ship models. This will probably make the ships more scary.
What do you think about it?
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Cenelia
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Posted - 2007.10.10 12:27:00 -
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wanna see scary? fit some bs sized guns on a frigate(yes theye cant be put online and you cant undock but you do get to see scary in the statino :o) -
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Firkragg
Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.10.10 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Cenelia wanna see scary? fit some bs sized guns on a frigate(yes theye cant be put online and you cant undock but you do get to see scary in the statino :o)
Dont forget you can put capital size guns on :) It basically looks like a gun blob :D
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enymphia
The Movement
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Posted - 2007.10.10 12:39:00 -
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that megathron has electrons so he cant hurt you :P - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - |

Terianna Eri
Amarr STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.10 12:42:00 -
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I actually think that for the megathron, the problem is that the turrets are placed rather randomly on the hull.
I always thought, before I actually saw one in space, that the five green dots on the front port and front starboard sides of the ship were five turret hardpoints, and that the other two were on the little wings (where they are now)
Look at, say, an armageddon or a maelstrom, and the turrets look bigger - or at least, look more like they belong.
just my opinion ofc. __________________________________
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2007.10.10 13:01:00 -
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Well, on a Rifter (or any other frigate and even destroyer for that matter), the turrets look nicely sized and mostly nicely placed.
Cruisers are so-so - a bit larger AND better placed (I'd go for better placed first!) would be nicer to look at. Then again, preety much all cruiser turrets look like some sort of silly pistols bolted on the hull and randomly placed (i'd like something that screams 'turret', not 'pistol').
On battlecruisers / battleships, guns look very small.
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Zubakis
Bambooule TALIONIS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2007.10.10 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Cenelia wanna see scary? fit some bs sized guns on a frigate(yes theye cant be put online and you cant undock but you do get to see scary in the statino :o)
Ok, i tried it:
Ishkur with big guns
Deimos with big guns
-- Zuba |

Caldorous
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.10 13:47:00 -
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Small turrets size vs frigate size => fine
Medium turrets size vs cruiser size => the turrets are a little small
Large turrets size vs bs size => where did the supposedly BFG's go? -----------------------------
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Ekscalybur
Caldari Templar Services Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.10 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Ekscalybur on 10/10/2007 14:13:47 I complained about this before as well. I feel as though my Megathron does not have battleship sized guns, but instead, the crew roll down windows and fire their pistols (sideways for extra gangsta' style points). But I'm sure what happened in my whine will happen here. Apparently someone actually worked out the math, and the guns on the battleships are actually in proper scale with comparisons to the ships.
This just means they need to make the guns bigger, don't change any stats, just make them bigger. When a Megathron fires a broadside, it should look like the Mega should heave sideways from the force of the blast. Much in the same way an Iowa class Battleship heaves sideways several feet when firing a broadside despite weighing several thousands of tons.
Of course, it should only look like it should do that. I doubt there is much recoil from a blaster/rail gun.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.10 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ekscalybur I complained about this before as well. I feel as though my Megathron does not have battleship sized guns, but instead, the crew roll down windows and fire their pistols (sideways for extra gangsta' style points). But I'm sure what happened in my whine will happen here. Apparently someone actually worked out the math, and the guns on the battleships are actually in proper scale with comparisons to the ships.
This just means they need to make the guns bigger, don't change any stats, just make them bigger. When a Megathron fires a broadside, it should look like the Mega should heave sideways from the force of the blast. Much in the same way an Iowa class Battleship heaves sideways several feet when firing a broadside despite weighing several thousands of tons.
Of course, it should only like it should do that. I doubt there is much recoil from a blaster/rail gun.
Careful putting recoil into the game, you don't want those poor tempests falling apart when they fire off those 1400mms __________________________________
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Sc0rphion
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Posted - 2007.10.10 14:36:00 -
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If you have a Big gun... You will have many Caldari/mimmatar girls after you ;)
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mentalmonkey
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.10 14:49:00 -
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yeah the megathron could really do with some of her guns being relocated, if you built a ship you wouldnt just slap guns on at random, they should be like the geddons, in thoose hubs. Is there a real reason why they arnt? it would look way better with 5 in the front ones and 2 in the back ones, actually look like batterys of guns ripping them apart.
"Its the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that defines who you are" |

XrayZ
Euphoria Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.10 15:24:00 -
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size doesnt matter 
lol
sup zuba o/ --------------------------------------
<3 Godlesswanderer } eve-gfx team. |

Aramendel
Amarr North Face Force
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Posted - 2007.10.10 15:35:00 -
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Gun sizes on frigates are fine. Gun sizes on Dreads are fine.
Gun sizes on cruisers & BCs are way too small. Gun sizes on BSs are WAY WAY too small.
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Sc0rphion
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Posted - 2007.10.10 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: XrayZ size doesnt matter 
lol
sup zuba o/
That is a woman lie.. To make they couple satisfy
Indeed Size does matter
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XrayZ
Euphoria Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.10 15:48:00 -
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Edited by: XrayZ on 10/10/2007 15:51:03
Originally by: Sc0rphion
Originally by: XrayZ size doesnt matter 
lol
sup zuba o/
That is a woman lie.. To make they couple satisfy
Indeed Size does matter
they¦ve all lied to me  --------------------------------------
<3 Godlesswanderer } eve-gfx team. |

Sc0rphion
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Posted - 2007.10.10 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: Sc0rphion on 10/10/2007 15:53:51
Originally by: XrayZ
Originally by: Sc0rphion
Originally by: XrayZ size doesnt matter 
lol
sup zuba o/
That is a woman lie.. To make they couple satisfy
Indeed Size does matter
lol, u dont see the sarcasm in my post?
or do i have to write like "[sarkaZm] kege [/sarkaZm]" ?
Ehrmmm What ? WHy childs always anwer with agressions when they feel overOwned ?? !! (when they think)
Do i need to put Sarcasm in my words too?.. Or you think the post its about D_I_C_K_S and C_U_N_T_S ? Why do u feel with the need of posting in defense? if not offend you
Flame mode on: !! Well if you felt offended maybe was for ur [Sarcasm]Gun size[Sarcasm]
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
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Posted - 2007.10.10 15:58:00 -
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also remember camera sets at different range dependant on your ship size... look at battleshipguns in a frigate and you see the size - human nature and optical illusions I guess - I'm a nice guy!!
MOA is NOT UGLY!!! It's A FREAK SHOW!!!! |

Soultaker Angel
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Posted - 2007.10.10 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: XrayZ Edited by: XrayZ on 10/10/2007 15:51:03
Originally by: Sc0rphion
Originally by: XrayZ size doesnt matter 
lol
sup zuba o/
That is a woman lie.. To make they couple satisfy
Indeed Size does matter
they¦ve all lied to me 
not clever the way that you edited you post for not be owned You are OWNED.
PD NOw we all know that you have a small thing
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XrayZ
Euphoria Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.10 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Sc0rphion Edited by: Sc0rphion on 10/10/2007 15:53:51
Originally by: XrayZ
Originally by: Sc0rphion
Originally by: XrayZ size doesnt matter 
lol
sup zuba o/
That is a woman lie.. To make they couple satisfy
Indeed Size does matter
lol, u dont see the sarcasm in my post?
or do i have to write like "[sarkaZm] kege [/sarkaZm]" ?
Ehrmmm What ? WHy childs always anwer with agressions when they feel overOwned ?? !! (when they think)
Do i need to put Sarcasm in my words too?.. Or you think the post its about D_I_C_K_S and C_U_N_T_S ? Why do u feel with the need of posting in defense? if not offend you
Flame mode on: !! Well if you felt offended maybe was for ur [Sarcasm]Gun size[Sarcasm]
yes, im a child... and post with flame mode. but as a "grown up" u might want to post in "grown up mode".
anyhoo... what i wanted to say with my "size doesnt matter" post was that even thou guns are small they dish out some serious dmg :) and it sounded kinda...well.. u know... that size doesnt matter with the stuff u was thinking about *perv* :P
oh, btw, ur fast looking at the posts, i edited it a few sec later, props to u m8.
lets see how big of a [sarcasm] gun [/sarcasm] u have.
kthnxbye. --------------------------------------
<3 Godlesswanderer } eve-gfx team. |

XrayZ
Euphoria Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.10 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Soultaker Angel
Originally by: XrayZ Edited by: XrayZ on 10/10/2007 15:51:03
Originally by: Sc0rphion
Originally by: XrayZ size doesnt matter 
lol
sup zuba o/
That is a woman lie.. To make they couple satisfy
Indeed Size does matter
they¦ve all lied to me 
not clever the way that you edited you post for not be owned You are OWNED.
PD NOw we all know that you have a small thing
ye, i got owned, pretty bad aswell... but hey, its internet :) my boots are shaking 
and the size is relative :P --------------------------------------
<3 Godlesswanderer } eve-gfx team. |

Mekk Azal
November Night Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.10 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Zubakis
Originally by: Cenelia wanna see scary? fit some bs sized guns on a frigate(yes theye cant be put online and you cant undock but you do get to see scary in the statino :o)
Ok, i tried it:
Ishkur with big guns
Deimos with big guns
Now Thats a frigate-sized ship!
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Red Harvest
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Posted - 2007.10.10 16:43:00 -
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Or just look at the Machariel. The ship is so big that the large guns look like some sort of antennas. 
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Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.10.10 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Zubakis
Originally by: Cenelia wanna see scary? fit some bs sized guns on a frigate(yes theye cant be put online and you cant undock but you do get to see scary in the statino :o)
Ok, i tried it:
Ishkur with big guns
Deimos with big guns
The ones on the Ishkur look silly. The Deimos looks badass (maybe the guns are slightly too big).
But you're right, guns on battleships look dumb. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI |

FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2007.10.10 18:21:00 -
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I agree that the guns on the Battleships don't appear to be the proper size, but I like the placement on the Megathron.
The Federation Navy Comet looks awesome with 125mm railguns. ------------
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Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.10.10 18:32:00 -
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Now this is fear inspiring.
Also, quit using eve-files.com for image sharing, it's annoying. Try Image Shack. No interruption-based ads. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI |

WarlockX
Amarr Free Trade Corp Kinetic Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.10 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: WarlockX on 10/10/2007 18:51:23
Originally by: Zubakis
Originally by: Cenelia wanna see scary? fit some bs sized guns on a frigate(yes theye cant be put online and you cant undock but you do get to see scary in the statino :o)
Ok, i tried it:
Ishkur with big guns
Deimos with big guns
The size of the turrets on the deimos in the screen shot is the size all turrets should be proportionatly.
But compared to real life ships those guns are still tiny.
Real Life Battleship vid from youtube
Notice how the guns take up the entire width of the battleship.
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2007.10.10 20:28:00 -
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Right, but do the RL battleships contain a sublight engine pushing 100 million kilos of weight to 1/3rd or more of the speed of sound and a warp drive to push it faster than the speed of light, a shield generator that generates a shield the equivalent of multiple of those RL battleships stacked behind each other, the power plant to generate the energy needed for this?
From frigate to cruiser to battleship each ship is about 10 times bigger then the previous class. The e.g. railguns however go from 150mm to 250mm to 425mm. If they were to scale up the same way as the ships did they would have to be 150mm, 1,500mm and 15,000mm. A railgun with a 15 meter/50 feet diameter barrel would be a bit silly. The kinetic energy contained in a 50 feet slug fired by a railgun would/should instantly obliterate anything we fly.
Quote: Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2007.10.10 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Washell Olivaw Right, but do the RL battleships contain a sublight engine pushing 100 million kilos of weight to 1/3rd or more of the speed of sound and a warp drive to push it faster than the speed of light, a shield generator that generates a shield the equivalent of multiple of those RL battleships stacked behind each other, the power plant to generate the energy needed for this?
From frigate to cruiser to battleship each ship is about 10 times bigger then the previous class. The e.g. railguns however go from 150mm to 250mm to 425mm. If they were to scale up the same way as the ships did they would have to be 150mm, 1,500mm and 15,000mm. A railgun with a 15 meter/50 feet diameter barrel would be a bit silly. The kinetic energy contained in a 50 feet slug fired by a railgun would/should instantly obliterate anything we fly.
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Mr Bodacious
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.10.10 22:25:00 -
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When you warp, you don't go past the speed of light, because if you did, you'd either travel back in time or instantly be obliterated. according to theories, that is :)
1 au =/= 1 LY... WAAYYY far off.
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