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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.11 12:10:00 -
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WAS AWESOME!
OMG at Valve's new cinematic physics engine 
OMG at some of the new environments and backdrops 
I'm gonna refrain from posting storyline spoilers but I can't wait for the third Episode of the trilogy myself   
Anyone else finished it, and what did you think?
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Gamer4liff
Caldari Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2007.10.11 12:11:00 -
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Well I had the ending spoiled for me somewhat, but I still thought it was very good, although I almost wish the one who died and came back had stayed dead.
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.11 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Gamer4liff Well I had the ending spoiled for me somewhat, but I still thought it was very good, although I almost wish the one who died and came back had stayed dead.

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Daelorn
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.10.11 12:22:00 -
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Edited by: Daelorn on 11/10/2007 12:24:13 I'm on the strider part still 
I wish I had a better computer, even on 700 something x 400 something my laptop still struggles on some parts. I really need to build a computer 
This post contains much sadness due to the crapness of my computer    
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.11 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Daelorn Edited by: Daelorn on 11/10/2007 12:24:13 I'm on the strider part still 
I wish I had a better computer, even on 700 something x 400 something my laptop still struggles on some parts. I really need to build a computer 
This post contains much sadness due to the crapness of my computer    
The section with the striders was the hardest tbh... I got bumloved by hunters so many times it was unreal.
There's a REALLY easy trick to it though, when you put your mind to it that pretty much negates the strider's escorts.
That is, if you can outsmart the AI... it's pretty damn good at times. 
>>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.10.11 12:31:00 -
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Im playing it when I get home from work.
Was it as short as episode one? 
Im really starting to dislike Valve, I dont want a game that you can never finosh. A game that releases a new 'episode' every two years or so. I thought the HL2 ending was 'wtf' so I was really looking forward to ep:one, and ep:one had a 'wtf' ending as well. I want to finish Half life, not play a***** teaser every 24 months.
Stupid valve
/rant off
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.11 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill Im playing it when I get home from work.
Was it as short as episode one? 
Im really starting to dislike Valve, I dont want a game that you can never finosh. A game that releases a new 'episode' every two years or so. I thought the HL2 ending was 'wtf' so I was really looking forward to ep:one, and ep:one had a 'wtf' ending as well. I want to finish Half life, not play a***** teaser every 24 months.
Stupid valve
/rant off
The Episodes are a trilogy. Rumour has it that they're to flesh out the middle of the story, and try new techniques and technologies before Half Life 3.
HL2 didn't really have a messed up ending, it just left the characters at a cliffhanger... Episode 1, I agree was short.
Episode 2 is a bit longer and there's an assload more storyline development in it... you find out a LOT about the links between some of the characters, and of course the role of the infamous "G-MAN" with is Black Mesa briefcase starts to get fleshed out.
Pretty sweet tbh, but you'll have to finish it to find out details... it's better that way 
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.11 13:21:00 -
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I'm not reading this thread because I KNOW they'll be spoilers
D/Ling though, 95% done... /me gets out to push it faster  -----
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.10.11 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
HL2 didn't really have a messed up ending, it just left the characters at a cliffhanger..
Yeah that was the wtf part about it. I was on my knees pulling my hair out when it ended 
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Asestorian
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.10.11 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: Asestorian on 11/10/2007 15:26:32 I absolutely loved Episode 2. Best Half Life yet in my opinion.
It got the balance between difficulty and fun just right, and didn't hang around with a single type of enemy for too long. One of things I hated about the previous outings was the huge amount of zombies, just zombies everywhere. Whilst there are zombies here as well, they are mixed with other stuff most of the time. Much more entertaining.
It was also great to get out of City 17 at last, which let Valve really have a go at some interesting places and do some interesting things. And damn did they make the most of it.
The story was continued nicely, and although it doesn't really answer many questions, I still felt satisfied that I knew a bit more about what was going on. I also think that it wasn't too short, which let me complete it uninterrupted in a day, which really helps.
Actually the only thing that was wrong with it was the loading in between the different sections, that's about the only bad point there is for me.
So then, Episode 2 = win.
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.10.11 15:44:00 -
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Downloading at 36 kb/s
I knew I should have preloaded it
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Fink Angel
Caldari The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.10.11 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Fink Angel on 11/10/2007 16:14:59
Originally by: Death Kill Im really starting to dislike Valve, I dont want a game that you can never finosh. A game that releases a new 'episode' every two years or so.
That's like not liking a TV series beacuse after episode one, it's not all done and dusted. Or a film might be part of a trilogy.
I'm all for anything that brings games more into line with storylines (and voice acting etc!) worthy of a book, movie or TV show.
Edit: Erm, not voice acting like a book, obv! 
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.10.11 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Fink Angel
That's like not liking a TV series beacuse after episode one, it's not all done and dusted. Or a film might be part of a trilogy.
Only ITS NOT a tv series, and ITS NOT a film thats a part of a triology. Its...a....game.
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.11 16:34:00 -
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Worst. Episode. Ever.
Nah, it was awesome  ---
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Asestorian
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.10.11 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill
Originally by: Fink Angel
That's like not liking a TV series beacuse after episode one, it's not all done and dusted. Or a film might be part of a trilogy.
Only ITS NOT a tv series, and ITS NOT a film thats a part of a triology. Its...a....game.
But that doesn't mean it can't have a long story to tell, and then tell it in parts.
I assume you'd prefer a game that took 20 years to make and was 20 hours long instead right?
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.11 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill
Originally by: Fink Angel
That's like not liking a TV series beacuse after episode one, it's not all done and dusted. Or a film might be part of a trilogy.
Only ITS NOT a tv series, and ITS NOT a film thats a part of a triology. Its...a....game.
I used to like you, Death Kill. I really did. But that is the most moronic thing I've ever heard anyone say.
What's different between a Book and a Film? One's textual, and one's visual / audible. What's different between a Film and a TV Show? One's a whole lot longer than another, and the latter usually tells a series of short stories into one large story. What's different between a Film and a Video Game (such as episode 2)? One's not interactive, the other one is.
There is no difference in the way that they all have a story, a plot, characters. The difference is the way the stories are conveyed to the audience. So don't be going 'ITS A GAME SO IT CANT TELL A STORY OR BE INSIGHTFUL ETC ETC!1!11!'. You sound worse than that ******** guy who has a vendetta against video games. ---
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Menkaure
Amarr Vanitas Corp.
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Posted - 2007.10.11 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Menkaure on 11/10/2007 18:13:00
Just finished. 
Best episode yet!
Loving valves facial/body animation stuff.... They get more and more impressive with every subsequent chapter. Alyx stopping to catch her breath, idly sitting down on a rock when nothings going on.... her expressions when magnusson is saying thanks to you are brilliant. Even the look of love she gives her father, and the admiration on her face when she looks at you. Absolutely incredible.
Well past the uncanny valley, that. Lots of developers can learn from them (and here's hoping CCP do with ambulation)
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.10.11 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Death Kill on 11/10/2007 18:18:52
Originally by: Asestorian
But that doesn't mean it can't have a long story to tell, and then tell it in parts.
I assume you'd prefer a game that took 20 years to make and was 20 hours long instead right?
Nah man. I'd prefer a game thats made and lets me complete it. Valve is milking the cow with this episode rubbish. There is NO logical reason to why they couldnt make the game in lets say 2 parts.
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.11 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill Edited by: Death Kill on 11/10/2007 18:18:52
Originally by: Asestorian
But that doesn't mean it can't have a long story to tell, and then tell it in parts.
I assume you'd prefer a game that took 20 years to make and was 20 hours long instead right?
Nah man. I'd prefer a game thats made and lets me complete it. Valve is milking the cow with this episode rubbish. There is NO logical reason to why they couldnt make the game in lets say 2 parts.
Other than the fact that they planned a trilogy from the first game?
Star-wars could have been made in one movie, but it would have been ****  ---
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.10.11 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
I used to like you, Death Kill. I really did. But that is the most moronic thing I've ever heard anyone say.
What's different between a Book and a Film? One's textual, and one's visual / audible. What's different between a Film and a TV Show? One's a whole lot longer than another, and the latter usually tells a series of short stories into one large story. What's different between a Film and a Video Game (such as episode 2)? One's not interactive, the other one is.
the difference is, that a book or a movie wont leave you hanging. Episode one was just a few hours long.... thats rubbish.
Valve is milking the cow.
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There is no difference in the way that they all have a story, a plot, characters. The difference is the way the stories are conveyed to the audience. So don't be going 'ITS A GAME SO IT CANT TELL A STORY OR BE INSIGHTFUL ETC ETC!1!11!'. You sound worse than that ******** guy who has a vendetta against video games.
Oh poppycock. You are just an acne infected 16 year old. Comeback when you hit puberty.
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First Stotherd
Caldari Winds of Dawn Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.10.11 18:25:00 -
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The story is great, the ending... unexpected...
Graphics are awesome, the rocket launch was cool... the strider explosions nice and graphic. The facial expressions were awesome, and the G-Man Zoom ins looked the best ever.
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.11 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: lofty29 on 11/10/2007 18:33:27
Originally by: Death Kill the difference is, that a book or a movie wont leave you hanging. Episode one was just a few hours long.... thats rubbish.
Valve is milking the cow.
Again; not all books come in single installments. Hl2 ended on a cliff-hangar after explaining what happened in City17. It was the start of the story, with a sub-story contained. Episode 1 detailed your escape from City17, and the destruction of the citadel. Two sub-stories while furthering the main story. Episode 2 detailed your closure of the Super-Portal and travel to White Forest, while furthering the main story and providing you information about the G-Man.
The episodes are quite short, but they're very very well made and explain A LOT of the story. If they weren't there, how do you suggest valve includes all the information we have learned in them into Half-Life 3, hmm? It would be one hell of a task.
And your comment about leaving you hanging - that's a good thing. It makes you want more, and shows that valve actually have good writers.
Don't know much about media products, do you DK?  ---
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.11 18:39:00 -
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I honestly prefer longer games in intervals rather than episodic type stuff! A game i can complete in one go is too short for me! took me 3 days to complete HL2 so episode one took me all of a few hours, not to say i dont like them, they are brilliant! But All the same i probably would have preferred it to go HL1 HL2 HL3.
that being said i generally play more RTS that FPS so i might be carrying that opinion over! --------------------------------------------
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Kyozoku
Mutiny.
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Posted - 2007.10.11 18:46:00 -
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I started playing through half life 1 for the first time today and it's better than everything in the orange box put together. 
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.10.11 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 Again; not all books come in single installments. Hl2 ended on a cliff-hangar after explaining what happened in City17. It was the start of the story, with a sub-story contained. Episode 1 detailed your escape from City17, and the destruction of the citadel. Two sub-stories while furthering the main story. Episode 2 detailed your closure of the Super-Portal and travel to White Forest, while furthering the main story and providing you information about the G-Man.
The episodes are quite short, but they're very very well made and explain A LOT of the story. If they weren't there, how do you suggest valve includes all the information we have learned in them into Half-Life 3, hmm? It would be one hell of a task.
And your comment about leaving you hanging - that's a good thing. It makes you want more, and shows that valve actually have good writers.
Don't know much about media products, do you DK? 
Actually I do my dear lofty loft. I do.
valve has taken a certain freedom no other company has ever done before, and I fear they will start a new trend where you cant complete a game no, you are forced to wait 2 years+ in order to see the light in the tunnel.
Good writers? system shock and Deus EX are prefectly good examples that you can create something legendary without ******* your fanbase. systemshock>HL2
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.11 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill Actually I do my dear lofty loft. I do.
valve has taken a certain freedom no other company has ever done before, and I fear they will start a new trend where you cant complete a game no, you are forced to wait 2 years+ in order to see the light in the tunnel.
Good writers? system shock and Deus EX are prefectly good examples that you can create something legendary without ******* your fanbase. systemshock>HL2
Valve are ******* their fanbase now are they? How does that work? They're producing the best FPS games out there, and are damn good at doing it. They also listen to their community alot through their forums.
Deus Ex was legendary, as was SS, and there's no disputing that. I'm just wondering why you think they have to make a single game and please your stupid, unattentive ass when they're trying to do something different. This whole episodic gaming thing was an experiment for Valve, and its popular. Very popular. I like it, as do 95% of the community. Why do you feel that the game has to fit into some kind of 'Death Kill Regulations' to be good hmm? ---
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.11 19:07:00 -
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You should remember to take into account the percentage of the fan base that actually visits the forums. --------------------------------------------
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.11 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mtthias Clemi You should remember to take into account the percentage of the fan base that actually visits the forums.
Those who do get listened to. It's not as if valve restricts access to their forums, even though they're more laggy than a 1000 man fleet fight  ---
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.11 19:13:00 -
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DK
are you saying you would prefer the HL series as 1 game or just the episodes?
because that might have been tooo long u know? --------------------------------------------
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.11 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mtthias Clemi DK
are you saying you would prefer the HL series as 1 game or just the episodes?
because that might have been tooo long u know?
Try explaining the transition from HL1 to HL2 during one game, too.
It would be so...failtrain. ---
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