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LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.12 04:42:00 - [31] Just the fact that this sir have been advertising for this in the blueprints and ships channel in best general starscam style makes me wanna say scam. Proud nublet of more public ISK than * CAP4U - The Plan
Kitex Blacktag Test Labs	Posted - 2007.10.12 04:51:00 - [32] Edited by: Kitex on 12/10/2007 04:52:01 There are plenty of good reasons not to invest in this that have already been pointed out in this thread. Here is the absolute best reason not to invest: Miss Fiona is an alt of General Starscream This is shown to almost certainly be the case in the two threads below: Thread 1 Thread 2 The threads are long and boring. Read them if you want, but you can take my word for it. Edit: Just noticed Lavista's post above. Very prophetic of you, sir. Blacktag - Buy ships / Fittings / Drones / Ammo in BULK with Delivery!
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:11:00 - [33] Hehe that's gold. I have had a few dealings with Starscream being a broker on the poker channel. I didn't put the two together (didn't bother checking posting history). Anyway, will my questions be answered Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:12:00 - [34] I even know why this can be the case. I think i had general starscam muted from the ships and blueprints channel after several petitions. So now he cant spam with general starscam anymore, thus this character. And just the fact that the writing style of Miss fionia is so spot on with general starscams, well, you make up your mind yourself. Proud nublet of more public ISK than * CAP4U - The Plan
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:17:00 - [35] Originally by: Kitex The threads are long and boring. Read them if you want, but you can take my word for it. OMFG You were right, VERY LONG and VERY BORING. And yes, this person is General Starscam. It has to be. There is no way that there are two people this (censored) in the human gene pool. The odds on that are like... some klutz dropping a stapler on his keyboard just as he's entering some market orders. 15 or 20 times in a row that is. It's A GIRL!!!!!
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:26:00 - [36] Edited by: LaVista Vista on 12/10/2007 05:26:36 Oh, and just the name of the corp in this thread is disturbing, this isnt wow, n00b. Go back to wow and steal epic items from all the other ..... over there. We dont have guilds in eve, we have corporations. Proud nublet of more public ISK than * CAP4U - The Plan
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:30:00 - [37] Miss Fiona messaged me in game to try and find out what I thought was wrong with this great plan! Also wanted me to tell her all the grammar errors, lol. I explained there was no way she would get 30 billion. She said they didn't really need 30 billion but they just wanted it so they could build tons more ships that way. I don't know if it's a scam still but geeze... anyone who invests is throwing their money down the toilet imo. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:41:00 - [38] Originally by: LaVista Vista We dont have guilds in eve, we have corporations. Tsk, tsk, tsk. How "eve provincial" you are. Corporation is only the name of the game mechanic. Not the standard by which all groupings of players are to be judged. Some are guilds, some are fraternities, some are communes. Takes all kinds in Eve. This one is just one of the bad kind. It's A GIRL!!!!!
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.12 05:50:00 - [39] Originally by: Shar Tegral How "eve provincial" you are. Corporation is only the name of the game mechanic. Not the standard by which all groupings of players are to be judged. Some are guilds, some are fraternities, some are communes. Takes all kinds in Eve. This one is just one of the bad kind.[/justify] I could add fellowship to the alternate naming abilities of a generic corporation but fear people may think I have played Lord of the rings online! Oh crap. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:14:00 - [40] Lol... this is rich. Just checked in game on Miss Fiona and it appears the NTG is listed on EGSEX already. That's some fast and amazing work indeed. And her english is quite good there. But, this lie (about EGSEX) does it for me. SCAM It's A GIRL!!!!!
Genbukan Best Buy INC	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:26:00 - [41] Miss Fiona I can contest to how harsh the feedback can be from these boards. I will give you a quick pointer, do some homework. You truly need to make some partnerships in game before you attempt any time soon with a revision. Also you might want to consider a security option to help ease the minds of a potential scam. However I think you have already lost the opportunity of most investors interest.
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.12 06:58:00 - [42] Originally by: Genbukan Miss Fiona I can contest to how harsh the feedback can be from these boards. I will give you a quick pointer, do some homework. You truly need to make some partnerships in game before you attempt any time soon with a revision. Also you might want to consider a security option to help ease the minds of a potential scam. However I think you have already lost the opportunity of most investors interest. Did you read the whole thread? Its a clear scam. Proud nublet of more public ISK than * CAP4U - The Plan
Genbukan Best Buy INC	Posted - 2007.10.12 07:02:00 - [43] Yeah! I know it's clearly marked a scam. Just wanted to give some feedback.
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.12 07:04:00 - [44] Originally by: Genbukan Yeah! I know it's clearly marked a scam. Just wanted to give some feedback. So when someone tries to rob you on the street, and he fails, you also go: "If you had brought a gun, i would have given you my money"? Proud nublet of more public ISK than * CAP4U - The Plan
Genbukan Best Buy INC	Posted - 2007.10.12 07:07:00 - [45] Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Genbukan Yeah! I know it's clearly marked a scam. Just wanted to give some feedback. So when someone tries to rob you on the street, and he fails, you also go: "If you had brought a gun, i would have given you my money"? HAHA! Just my newb kindness. However I would not invest in this clearly. Even if it were reposted.
Daeva Vios Ardent Adversary Anvil.	Posted - 2007.10.12 08:57:00 - [46] I guess I don't quite agree that it's kind to help a scammer become more proficient at scamming. If they're not bright enough to figure out how to do it on their own and not get caught at it, they don't deserve any money at all.
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.12 10:01:00 - [47] I realise I'm a bit late, but he's completely off if he thinks these are going to cost 500m each to build, and even more so if he calls that a very cheap price. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
Miss Fiona Gallente Nexus Trading guild	Posted - 2007.10.12 11:10:00 - [48] This is not a scam, you People are just mean, trying to destory others hard work.i worked very hard with the first post,and i hoped for som good feedback,So we could make my plans better. But insted you all think that the post was final,this is not the case we are working hard with the feedback we get. im not General Starscream. the adverts in blueprint channels is to try to get peoples attention. Some of you people are just sick, this is out of game, theres no need to troll and be mean about it. to those whom do help with Feedback thanks alot it helps alot.
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.12 11:27:00 - [49] Edited by: LaVista Vista on 12/10/2007 11:30:11 Edited by: LaVista Vista on 12/10/2007 11:27:49 Originally by: Miss Fiona This is not a scam, you People are just mean, trying to destory others hard work.i worked very hard with the first post,and i hoped for som good feedback,So we could make my plans better. But insted you all think that the post was final,this is not the case we are working hard with the feedback we get. im not General Starscream. the adverts in blueprint channels is to try to get peoples attention. Some of you people are just sick, this is out of game, theres no need to troll and be mean about it. to those whom do help with Feedback thanks alot it helps alot. Try harder, please. You dont manage to prove us wrong, but please do prove us wrong. Until then, you are general starscam. Proud nublet of more public ISK than * CAP4U - The Plan
Miss Fiona Gallente Nexus Trading guild	Posted - 2007.10.12 11:29:00 - [50] That is why the post was made, to get Feedback on how our plan would be presented in good format and style. The profit margins are based on alot of work,for how mutch the minerls and invention cost will be. 1* Yes we have tought about competition. that is why we seek investors so we can be bigger than alot of people. The aim is to built cheeper than everyone else, and in a large scale, so we can undercut them on the market. 2* That is true the data cores are factored into it. 3* The succsess rate is factored inn at a 25% invention chance. 4* Have skills to invent, and build all the ships. 5* Plan on using a high sec pos for this, and are talking with someone to make a corp and setup the pos, then giving our corp controll of it, and forming and alliance. 6* Yes i do trust all my corpmates, but there will only be a handfull of people that has accsess to the bpc and bpo. no others are allowed to post here but me. 7* Giving Security is hard im doing the best i can to answer all post, and giving out that security. i wont say our bsniess is better than anyone else, we are just trying to make it. trust in EvE is on your own toughts, so if you dont trust us after we give out the info we can, thats ok. We have not done any huge notable things,this is the start of our first big thing. the business plan is ready, but the way it should best be presented is not.
Miss Fiona Gallente Nexus Trading guild	Posted - 2007.10.12 11:30:00 - [51] Originally by: Shadarle Miss Fiona messaged me in game to try and find out what I thought was wrong with this great plan! Also wanted me to tell her all the grammar errors, lol. I explained there was no way she would get 30 billion. She said they didn't really need 30 billion but they just wanted it so they could build tons more ships that way. I don't know if it's a scam still but geeze... anyone who invests is throwing their money down the toilet imo. yes this is true, you seemed like you knew what you where talking about, so i asked for some help.
Daeva Vios Ardent Adversary Anvil.	Posted - 2007.10.12 11:30:00 - [52] Look, Starscream, you got called out. You got caught. There's no point trying to fight this anymore. Everyone here knows that Miss Fiona is your alt, and the scam isn't going to go off as you were hoping. Stop trying to defend yourself, it's just sad.
Miss Fiona Gallente Nexus Trading guild	Posted - 2007.10.12 11:32:00 - [53] Edited by: Miss Fiona on 12/10/2007 11:32:14 LaVista Vista i dont know why i have the same writing style as someone else. but i am not this person of wich you and others speak of. he is a know scammer, and i would not have deelings with such people.
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.12 11:32:00 - [54] Edited by: LaVista Vista on 12/10/2007 11:32:58 If you allow me to oversee the whole operation, we can sort something out. But i will have to lock down the assets. Proud nublet of more public ISK than * CAP4U - The Plan
Miss Fiona Gallente Nexus Trading guild	Posted - 2007.10.12 11:33:00 - [55] Originally by: LaVista Vista If you allow me to oversee the whole operation, we can sort something out. What do you mean oversee? in what way?
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.12 11:33:00 - [56] Originally by: Miss Fiona Originally by: LaVista Vista If you allow me to oversee the whole operation, we can sort something out. What do you mean oversee? in what way? I lock down the operation in my corp, and you get access to use it, but you cant take out the BPO's etc. Proud nublet of more public ISK than * CAP4U - The Plan
Miss Fiona Gallente Nexus Trading guild	Posted - 2007.10.12 11:41:00 - [57] Edited by: Miss Fiona on 12/10/2007 11:41:23 Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Miss Fiona Originally by: LaVista Vista If you allow me to oversee the whole operation, we can sort something out. What do you mean oversee? in what way? I lock down the operation in my corp, and you get access to use it, but you cant take out the BPO's etc. And how would this work? you mean i should give you accsess to our bpo, so you could take them? theres no chance of that happening, its to big of a risk,
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.12 12:13:00 - [58] Originally by: Miss Fiona Edited by: Miss Fiona on 12/10/2007 11:41:23 Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Miss Fiona Originally by: LaVista Vista If you allow me to oversee the whole operation, we can sort something out. What do you mean oversee? in what way? I lock down the operation in my corp, and you get access to use it, but you cant take out the BPO's etc. And how would this work? you mean i should give you accsess to our bpo, so you could take them? theres no chance of that happening, its to big of a risk, Wow. You really do need to do some more homework. When we talk about risk here, you have admited you haven't done a big operation before. La Vista holding BPO's is less of a risk than the risk of you actually trying to run this business. You can still use the BPO's, but you can't run off with them when your business tanks. We're not mean here, we're being honest and pointing out the flaws. It is rough, and the Market isn't very forgiving. Consulting, IPO Template, and Stock/Bond definitions.
Daeva Vios Ardent Adversary Anvil.	Posted - 2007.10.12 12:54:00 - [59] Edited by: Daeva Vios on 12/10/2007 12:54:08 You really haven't done this before, have you? And no, we're not all competitors. Not even close. Most of us are just interested in seeing that our money is used intelligently to yield returns and not stolen. There are methods for preventing this, and you're seeing those methods being used. I would like to see the market succeed. It will not succeed if scammers believe they can get away with a lot of isk. It will also not succeed if it's run by individuals with as little experience and knowledge (readily obtainable through research) as Miss Fiona.
Miss Fiona Gallente Nexus Trading guild	Posted - 2007.10.12 12:56:00 - [60] Edited by: Miss Fiona on 12/10/2007 13:04:01 yes im still correcting the things the plan is an example of what we whould like to do, it is not a exact run down of what we will do.

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