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Miss Fiona
Gallente Nexus Trading guild
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Posted - 2007.10.12 13:09:00 -
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Edited by: Miss Fiona on 12/10/2007 13:13:33
Originally by: Oron Edited by: Oron on 12/10/2007 12:51:21
Of course this forum is mean. Its your competition, what did you expect? There is nothing better than stop a competition before it raise. All they need are some valid concernce to raise trust questions, and you gave them some decent points to do so.
In example the EGSEX lie. The EGSEX listings are viewable in public, your company is not listed. In example you sometimes say 60 ships a week and than 60 ships a month. Sometimes 32bil sometimes 35bil. Maybe a language issue - maybe. In addition the need for 32bil is questionable, cause if you build 2 ships per day for 500mil (and sell em at 200%+) you would need only 1bil to start of.
I dont say it's a scam - I talked to you and i had not a that bad impression from you (but its internet after all :), but it's smells like one and thats anoth to kill a IPO from someone who is'nt known yet.
If you would be so kind to send me your calculations about the building costs, I would still consider a medium scale investment. Would you?
yes the 60 Ships a week in the example was a mistake it should have said a month.
the 32 was in our chat, and you asked what if you invested 32b
so i used those numbers. and it was late, so the % calc got a bit mixed up ;)
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.12 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Fiona the plan is an example of what we whould like to do, it is not a exact run down of what we will do.
People invest in people who know, not in people who are just trying to figure it out. You are welcome to come back when you've finally gotten around to an actual plan.
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Oron
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.12 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: Oron on 12/10/2007 13:16:02 It would'nt be a bad advice you hire a "independent" and well known business advisor to help you to plan this business and to solve the trust issue. Somebody who do not invest but know and approve your plans would really help.
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Miss Fiona
Gallente Nexus Trading guild
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Posted - 2007.10.12 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Miss Fiona the plan is an example of what we whould like to do, it is not a exact run down of what we will do.
People invest in people who know, not in people who are just trying to figure it out. You are welcome to come back when you've finally gotten around to an actual plan.
we do have a very good plan.its not just not spelled out as good as it could be. im still working on this, and thanks alot for the help in doing it, so far.
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.12 17:48:00 -
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Fiona I have a way you can show you aren't a Starscream alt.
In the Curzon Dax poker channel you advised that it was a scam.
Now, I know for a fact (being a broker and having all logs available) that Miss Fiona has never played a poker game before. So I assume you have a different character you used for Poker.
If you can advise on which player you use on poker, it will show you aren't an alt of Starscream and people might reconsider.
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Miss Fiona
Gallente Nexus Trading guild
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Posted - 2007.10.12 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic Fiona I have a way you can show you aren't a Starscream alt.
In the Curzon Dax poker channel you advised that it was a scam.
Now, I know for a fact (being a broker and having all logs available) that Miss Fiona has never played a poker game before. So I assume you have a different character you used for Poker.
If you can advise on which player you use on poker, it will show you aren't an alt of Starscream and people might reconsider.
this is a bit out of topic, but i played 1 game where Curzon dax i belive got 5 winning hands or something like that in a row, and someone said it was a scam,and linked me the post, so i took a look, and wrote what happend to me. i hope your better with shares than you are with logs.
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Block Ukx
KDM Corp Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.10.12 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Fiona Edited by: Miss Fiona on 12/10/2007 12:59:30
The additional isk necessary to complete this venture will be provided through the shares issued via this IPO. There will be a total of 10 million shares,and those shares have a initial value of 1,000,000 isk (1 million)
We would love to see alot more invested than 30 billion as we can cover alot more Inventing and building.
10 million shares + 1,000,000 ISK = 10,000,000,000,000 ISK
You need to fix that. Noone is going to invest that kind of money.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.12 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Fiona this is a bit out of topic
No it is not. Are you going to answer the question though? Which toon did you use to play poker with? Originally by: Miss Fiona i hope your better with shares than you are with logs.
Insulting people who are asking questions is one of the classic "I'm a scammer" indicators. Did you research anything, anything at all?
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Kitex
Blacktag Test Labs
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Posted - 2007.10.12 19:06:00 -
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Fiona,
You posted in each of the threads I linked previously within minutes of General Starscream, in support of each of his oddball conspiracy theories. Within minutes on Sept 10, and again within minutes on Sept 12. Quite strange when your post history is a total of 3 posts. Add to that the fact that you spell and format your posts identically to his...
Unhappy coincidence? I think not.
Just stop. We aren't are dumb as you look.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.12 19:21:00 -
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Thread's been nuked.
Move along, Nothing more to see.
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Kitex
Blacktag Test Labs
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Posted - 2007.10.12 19:27:00 -
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For the public record, here's my incomplete list of Starscream alts:
Miss Fiona hongdingdong Cholera DaBombard Malin Folkungs
General Starscream and all of the above alts except hongdingdong were created within the same 2 week time period early this year. All of the above alts are now in Nexus Trading guild. He has used all of the above alts to post in support of his own truly kooky ideas in past threads. If the spelling and grammatical similarities are difficult to ignore, the history of posting within minutes of Starscream to back him up are impossible to ignore.
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2007.10.12 20:08:00 -
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Im disappointed. Usually scams are nuked on the first page based on the fact that the OPs name is a anagram of a murderer mentioned in a local indonesian newspaper.
It took you more then 3 pages this time. You fail.
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Miss Fiona
Gallente Nexus Trading guild
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Posted - 2007.10.12 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Miss Fiona this is a bit out of topic
No it is not. Are you going to answer the question though? Which toon did you use to play poker with? Originally by: Miss Fiona i hope your better with shares than you are with logs.
Insulting people who are asking questions is one of the classic "I'm a scammer" indicators. Did you research anything, anything at all?
i was hardly insulting him, just making a joke.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.12 21:31:00 -
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Your limited API key could at least establish that Miss Fiona isn't on the same account as Starscream; if you have no intention of scamming, you might as well post it. I'd also like to know what you think your build costs would be, to the nearest million isk. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats |

LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.12 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Fiona
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Miss Fiona this is a bit out of topic
No it is not. Are you going to answer the question though? Which toon did you use to play poker with? Originally by: Miss Fiona i hope your better with shares than you are with logs.
Insulting people who are asking questions is one of the classic "I'm a scammer" indicators. Did you research anything, anything at all?
i was hardly insulting him, just making a joke.
You STILL havent answered our questions General Starscam. Answer them, or just drop it already.
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Curzon Dax
Spaceship Holdings
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Posted - 2007.10.12 23:50:00 -
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Someone just linked this thread for me. =p
General Starscream (known scammer) has several alts that are worth keeping an eye out for:
-General Starscream -Miss Fiona (same IP address as General Starscream) -hongdingdong -Cholera DaBombard -Malin Folkungs
I haven't actually read this whole thread yet, but I bet that several of them show up. =p
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.13 04:54:00 -
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Kind of sad. Anyone with Nexus Trading Guild in their employment history is essentially black listed due to one jerk with alot of alts.
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Miss Fiona
Gallente Nexus Trading guild
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Posted - 2007.10.13 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Curzon Dax Someone just linked this thread for me. =p
General Starscream (known scammer) has several alts that are worth keeping an eye out for:
-General Starscream -Miss Fiona (same IP address as General Starscream) -hongdingdong -Cholera DaBombard -Malin Folkungs
I haven't actually read this whole thread yet, but I bet that several of them show up. =p
How would you even know my ip address?
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Curzon Dax
Spaceship Holdings
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Posted - 2007.10.13 19:52:00 -
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Miss Fiona, I know your IP address because you logged into the poker server to play a short game of poker. Remember that? Your IP address was the same as General Starscream's IP address - and hongdingdong. The other two alts of yours that I listed have amazingly similar posting styles, they've only posted in threads where you have posted and to back up your arguments.
So when..
1. You have the same IP address
2. You post in the same threads
3. You write the same.
4. You post one right after another.
It kind of gives a telling story.
Until now, Miss Fiona was an alt and I guess you tried to turn him into a main. At this point, I would biomass Miss Fiona in your shoes and start over with someone new.
Best of luck to your future scams / blackmailing attempts / etc.
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Miss Fiona
Gallente Nexus Trading guild
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Posted - 2007.10.13 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Curzon Dax Miss Fiona, I know your IP address because you logged into the poker server to play a short game of poker. Remember that? Your IP address was the same as General Starscream's IP address - and hongdingdong. The other two alts of yours that I listed have amazingly similar posting styles, they've only posted in threads where you have posted and to back up your arguments.
So when..
1. You have the same IP address
2. You post in the same threads
3. You write the same.
4. You post one right after another.
It kind of gives a telling story.
Until now, Miss Fiona was an alt and I guess you tried to turn him into a main. At this point, I would biomass Miss Fiona in your shoes and start over with someone new.
Best of luck to your future scams / blackmailing attempts / etc.
LOL ok curzon dax i dont know where your getting of at.
but it seems to be your a bit to into spying on other people.tracking there ips and such. this was over a month ago, so i dont know where you have this from. Hongdingdong was kicked out of the corp due to a post that lead me to belive he was a alt of a scammer. About the poker game post, i followd a link, where i posted after others, hardly proves anything.
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Curzon Dax
Spaceship Holdings
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Posted - 2007.10.13 23:27:00 -
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Miss Fiona, say what you will, but the truth remains the truth.
You, hongdingdong and General Starscream log into Poker Mavens from the same IP address. The server shows both the IP and MAC address that you are coming from.
I have no interest in your IPO scams or whatever; but I will bring truth to shed light on something cloudy like this.
Like I said - best of luck to your future endeavors - you were already shot down before I poked my head in here. Your other alts are pretty well known too.
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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order. United Connection's
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Posted - 2007.10.14 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Curzon Dax Your other alts are pretty well known too.
What are they? I would like to add them to the list.
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Kyoto Rose
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Posted - 2007.10.14 00:40:00 -
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Edited by: Kyoto Rose on 14/10/2007 00:41:01
Originally by: Miss Fiona Edited by: Miss Fiona on 14/10/2007 00:31:09 * Nexus Trading guild (NTG)
Contents
1) Introduction 2) Timeframe 3) Description of Offering 4) Estimated Earnings 5) Share Purchasing Information 6) Share Repurchasing Information 7) Extra info.
1) Introduction
I have been Trading and doing marketing for about 7 months. while building a corp.The corp have 25 people and 11 alts. And have gotten a idea bigger than our self! To make this come true we need help from you. Done a hard effort our self we have. to sell of all most everything we have to go for this our self. The corp see the huge profit margin that can be made, if this is done correct.
2) Timeframe
NTG offer 2 sets of options for investors, short and medium term.
*Short term goes over 3 months. Pay out is 50% and a buyback of 70% on each share
Medium term goes over 6 months with a 125% pay out.a buyback of 90% of the share price is offered.
*Terms apply to Short term. Share holders may not reinvest into the corp. if you chose to sell out after 3 months.
Share holders may ask for keeping your shares, and converting to the 6 month plan. but will not be paid more than 100% but the 90% buyback option will be open for you.
3) Description of Offering
To establish and maintain a Tech 2 ship production facility that will produce 60 ships per week will require approximately 30 billion isk of capital. This includes all invention costs, as well as raw materials to cover the first 60 ships. We have acquired, using my Corp assets, an initial supply of Data cores.
The additional isk necessary to complete this venture will be provided through the shares issued via this IPO. There will be a total of 10 million shares, and those shares have a initial value of 1,000,000 isk (1 million)
We would love to see alot more invested than 30 billion as we can cover alot more Inventing and building.
so theres no high on the ammount of shares that will be sold!
4) Estimated Earnings
Earnings will come from two main streams. The first will be the sale of Tech 2 ships. The second stream will be through the sale of components that we have stock piled and find a higher profit in selling than using for production.
We Expect to make about 200-250% on the sales. as we are doing a good job at buying very low.
This is per 60 ships which we hope to make each month. and have a new batch ready each month.
We aim to build big, and sell at the lowest price, due to our unique low building cost,our ships will be the lowest priced in any amount on sale.
there for we will sell more, and faster than alot of others. and be able to reinvest thees isk into a new batch, and keep going until, the last month, where we will look at what we should do in the future.
5) Share Purchasing Information
To purchase shares, send increments of 1,000,000 isk (1 million) to Miss Fiona along with an eve-mail with the number of shares you are requesting. After payment is confirmed you will be invited to join a mailing list in game as well as a Chat channel that will provide weekly updates and Special offers on the new ships.
6) Share Repurchasing Information
After six months,for Medium and 3 months for short. NTG will begin offering share repurchases. This plan will be guaranteed to all Shareholders if they wish to cash in there shares.
Share repurchases at 90% will only be offered on shares that have been held for 6 months
3 month plan shares will be bought back at 70%
ive never done a qft before, although who really knows what miss fiona changed before posting this back up.
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Miss Fiona
Gallente Nexus Trading guild
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Posted - 2007.10.14 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Curzon Dax Miss Fiona, say what you will, but the truth remains the truth.
You, hongdingdong and General Starscream log into Poker Mavens from the same IP address. The server shows both the IP and MAC address that you are coming from.
I have no interest in your IPO scams or whatever; but I will bring truth to shed light on something cloudy like this.
Like I said - best of luck to your future endeavors - you were already shot down before I poked my head in here. Your other alts are pretty well known too.
hong was kicked out of our corp, since we belived him to be a spy or a scammer of some sort.
but i am not the same person as them, you have a made a mistake about this curzon dax and your hurting my hole corp with this ip tracking and logging of people.
and on top of that, your wrong as well, so pls dont do this to people in the future. as your hurting other people for something they have not done.
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Dr Slurm
General Commodities
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Posted - 2007.10.14 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Fiona
Originally by: Curzon Dax Miss Fiona, say what you will, but the truth remains the truth.
You, hongdingdong and General Starscream log into Poker Mavens from the same IP address. The server shows both the IP and MAC address that you are coming from.
I have no interest in your IPO scams or whatever; but I will bring truth to shed light on something cloudy like this.
Like I said - best of luck to your future endeavors - you were already shot down before I poked my head in here. Your other alts are pretty well known too.
hong was kicked out of our corp, since we belived him to be a spy or a scammer of some sort.
but i am not the same person as them, you have a made a mistake about this curzon dax and your hurting my hole corp with this ip tracking and logging of people.
and on top of that, your wrong as well, so pls dont do this to people in the future. as your hurting other people for something they have not done.
This is where we take a moment to examine incentive.
There is nothing gained by Curzon Dax by announcing your IP being logged some where else and it matching another known scammer.
There is something gained by you disputing and denying that the other known scammer is in fact yourself.
The incentive in this situation is for you, Miss Fiona, to distort the truth. The chances of you having the same IP address as someone else are improbable. The chances of you having the same IP address as someone else who plays EVE are even more improbable. The chances of having the same IP and MAC address are slim to none.
Best advice, give up. You're a craptastic scammer. <sig>
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Miss Fiona
Gallente Nexus Trading guild
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Posted - 2007.10.14 00:56:00 -
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and just how do you know he has nothing to gain?
But the point is that he dont have my ip adress. hes making this up, or have made a mistake and mixed up some ip addreses.
He is mistaken since i am not thees people he talks about.
im not even of same gender.
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Hads Snappingturtle
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Posted - 2007.10.14 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Fiona im not even of same gender. or live in the same country.[/quote
Prove it.
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Mehixa
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Posted - 2007.10.14 01:03:00 -
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Please add a disclaimer to the top of your OP that states that this IPO has been closed, and that it only serves as a historical reference at this point.
I'd hate for a new comer to get confused here.
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Dr Slurm
General Commodities
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Posted - 2007.10.14 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Fiona Edited by: Miss Fiona on 14/10/2007 00:59:07 and just how do you know he has nothing to gain?
But the point is that he dont have my ip adress. hes making this up, or have made a mistake and mixed up some ip addreses.
He is mistaken since i am not thees people he talks about.
im not even of same gender. or live in the same country.
He doesn't have anything to gain because you are two otherwise unconnected people.
As for getting IP addresses it isn't that hard and you yourself admit to playing poker. So he definitely has your ip address.
And consequently I have it now also. <sig>
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Miss Fiona
Gallente Nexus Trading guild
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Posted - 2007.10.14 01:19:00 -
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Edited by: Miss Fiona on 14/10/2007 01:21:49 I played in that poker room one time.
lol and thats not my ip address.
and if it where you would be in alot of trubbel. i think you should read the eula.
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