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Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
609
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Posted - 2012.01.24 06:59:00 -
[61] - Quote
I don't believe you really possess the funds needed to do real damage.
To starve the nullrats out. You would have to spend billions by the minute. Because the buy orders for PLEX will pile on quickly after you hatch the scheme. And the stock brokers and other RL rich folks will take the opportunity to buy thousands of USD of PLEX.
No that money in my opinion is far far FAR FAR FARR!!! Better spent on purchasing EW ships for any future EW strike on third party mom fleets with stated intentions to harm incursion runners. |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
175
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Posted - 2012.01.24 07:13:00 -
[62] - Quote
Do it. it will be fun. But you wont. We all know that because you're just an incursionbear and your goal is growing your pile of ISK and not to spend it. You will never risk your fortune. |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed
RED.Legion
1268
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Posted - 2012.01.24 07:30:00 -
[63] - Quote
stoicfaux wrote:Darius III wrote:Tee hee. This thread trolls better than I do. With baited breath I will await your masterful plan to unfurl. Bated, man, bated. Also, here's a breath mint. Keep the roll.
Nah, he spelled it right. Little known fact, D3 keeps live worms in his mouth so he can always have baited breath... and be ready for trout season.
Single-Shard, Player Driven Sandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special in my eyes. |
Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
119
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Posted - 2012.01.24 07:31:00 -
[64] - Quote
Seeing how well empire bears are at coordinating global actions like voting candidates into the CSM this initiative surely will be a grand success. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
282
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Posted - 2012.01.24 07:32:00 -
[65] - Quote
Aineko Macx wrote:Seeing how well empire bears are at coordinating global actions like voting candidates into the CSM this initiative surely will be a grand success.
Not empty quoting.
http://i.imgur.com/cOmMP.gif |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed
RED.Legion
1268
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Posted - 2012.01.24 07:37:00 -
[66] - Quote
KrakizBad wrote:Aineko Macx wrote:Seeing how well empire bears are at coordinating global actions like voting candidates into the CSM this initiative surely will be a grand success. Not empty quoting.
Agreed.
Single-Shard, Player Driven Sandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special in my eyes. |
Tore Vest
156
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Posted - 2012.01.24 07:42:00 -
[67] - Quote
I dont have a ton of isk.... 
And i dont know a **** about the market
Highsec carebear... and proud of it |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
171
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Posted - 2012.01.24 08:03:00 -
[68] - Quote
mkint wrote:
After all, how do we know they did not sell those trillions for RMT?
lol@calling working around a broken game mechanic (as admitted to by CCP) an exploit. Next you're going to call clearing your cache, and updating your drivers an exploit!
Working around broken game mechanics for advantage IS an exploit.
I suppose you were not here when people duped moon goo by using a broken game mechanics? How did it end? |
Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
609
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Posted - 2012.01.24 08:18:00 -
[69] - Quote
Lexmana wrote:Do it. it will be fun. But you wont. We all know that because you're just an incursionbear and your goal is growing your pile of ISK and not to spend it. You will never risk your fortune.
I really hope the player wont. #1 He/she wont succeed as stated. And #2 If said funds existed it could fund enough EW ships T1 and T2 To deter anything but stated hostile mothership interdiction on the grand scale of sov battles which the enemy can't realistically maintain.
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KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
282
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Posted - 2012.01.24 08:21:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Lexmana wrote:Do it. it will be fun. But you wont. We all know that because you're just an incursionbear and your goal is growing your pile of ISK and not to spend it. You will never risk your fortune. I really hope the player wont. #1 He/she wont succeed as stated. And #2 If said funds existed it could fund enough EW ships T1 and T2 To deter anything but stated hostile mothership interdiction on the grand scale of sov battles which the enemy can't realistically maintain.
He wouldn't spend it on that either.
I find it truly astounding that STILL the incursion bears won't spend the miniscule amount of ISK on suicide ECM gankers to utterly shut down the interdiction. Especially if they're sitting on that type of money.
http://i.imgur.com/cOmMP.gif |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
175
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Posted - 2012.01.24 08:22:00 -
[71] - Quote
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Lexmana wrote:Do it. it will be fun. But you wont. We all know that because you're just an incursionbear and your goal is growing your pile of ISK and not to spend it. You will never risk your fortune. I really hope the player wont. #1 He/she wont succeed as stated. And #2 If said funds existed it could fund enough EW ships T1 and T2 To deter anything but stated hostile mothership interdiction on the grand scale of sov battles which the enemy can't realistically maintain.
He wont do your #2 either because ... you know ... the same reasons. And you wont either. |
Xiozor
League of Non-Aligned Worlds
Nulli Tertius
12
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Posted - 2012.01.24 08:25:00 -
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There's only one person in the Incursion community I can think of who is this insane and deluded. And yes. Spending 10 trillion ISK on PLEX in a vein protest is the sort of think he would do.
You bitter old bastard. If you were in a plane crash you would be the one who climbs (Wheels?) his way to the top of the wreckage, ignites the remaining kerosene and screams "WHY PROLONG IT!"
Luckily your rambling is so rabid and foaming at the mouth you wont be able to incite anyone to what would actually prove to be quite a damaging endeavour. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex
Cosmic Consortium
920
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Posted - 2012.01.24 08:26:00 -
[73] - Quote
Amarr Citizen 532532632 wrote:If you purchased all the Tritanium in Jita, Hek, Amarr and Dodixie for a week, how would that reflect in the prices of all the ships in EVE?
Tritanium is too readily available. Hit something harder to produce, something that is a bottleneck in the production.
Of course, if you do go the tritanium route I have a few trillion units sitting around that I haven't been bothered selling just yet.
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St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
408
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Posted - 2012.01.24 08:36:00 -
[74] - Quote
I nominate myself as a trusted third party for these tens of trillions of ISK in your pathetic market manipulation attempt honorable endeavor to save New Eden from heinous injustices. |
Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2012.01.24 08:36:00 -
[75] - Quote
Do it, we all want you to, just do it already.
This is like the pizza man being late, or your girlfriend... |
Chief Cheeba
The Janjaweed
11
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Posted - 2012.01.24 08:37:00 -
[76] - Quote
+1 for this idea
these idiot sociopaths have no understanding of economics (unlike yourself obviously) theyll never be able to withstand this onslaught of righteous isk!! bring them to their knees!!!! |
Killstealing
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
363
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Posted - 2012.01.24 08:40:00 -
[77] - Quote
come at me br0 |
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
40
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Posted - 2012.01.24 08:51:00 -
[78] - Quote
So the people in organized fleets who DOCK UP EVERYTHING whenever someone has an agression timer towards a 3 man industrial corp with no online members are magically going to have enough courage to trust a scheme with trillions of isk to make kestrels cost 30 million?
i can totally see this happening.
The Order of the Falcon or Hin +¡slenska f+ílkaor+¦a is a national Order of Iceland |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1225
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Posted - 2012.01.24 08:52:00 -
[79] - Quote
Lol
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Cass Lie
State War Academy
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.01.24 08:54:00 -
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Lets assume you have the means to somehow manipulate the markets against the old guard (you don't). If you decide to crash the tech market, PL/NC. may actually run out of guys to hand free titans to. Imagine the confused looks when all wishes are fulfilled, you wouldn't want such a sad state of affairs.
On the other hand, if you crash the mineral market, you might actually fix mining for some time. All miners would rejoice and sing their praises forever after. What are a couple of tens of trillions compared to that? |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
525
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Posted - 2012.01.24 09:01:00 -
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Amarr Citizen 532532632 wrote:
My proposal: Hold the markets ransom.
Hahahahahahaha.... ahahahhahaha...
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Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
366
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Posted - 2012.01.24 09:04:00 -
[82] - Quote
Dear prisoner #532532632
The plot, you have lost it.
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
baltec1
476
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Posted - 2012.01.24 09:25:00 -
[83] - Quote
Yes! buy all of my stuff and relist it at silly prices!
I promise I wont build more and also sell them for heaps more cash. |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe
Test Alliance Please Ignore
35
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Posted - 2012.01.24 09:26:00 -
[84] - Quote
Amarr Citizen 532532632 wrote:Well you carry on doing the Incursions for the social/fun/gameplay aspect and the ISK becomes irrelevant and just stockpiles up and up. But after running Incursions for 4-12 hours a day, on 2 accounts, for, let's say, 300 days to break for the days I wasn't able to get on, assuming that I am averaging 90m an hour (A more realistic number over the period of 6 hours+ after counting in fleet form up times, bios etc) how much ISK does that leave you with?
A lot.
You really have no clue on how rich those market-bears aren't you? |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1657
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Posted - 2012.01.24 09:52:00 -
[85] - Quote
Aineko Macx wrote:Seeing how well empire bears are at coordinating global actions like voting candidates into the CSM this initiative surely will be a grand success.
ice
burn |
Renturu
Tribal Spirit
Tribal Unity Alliance
134
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Posted - 2012.01.24 09:53:00 -
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You wanna make incursions less of an ISK Faucet?... MAKE THEM HARDER!
I remember when they started and there was no idea how the AI ran... ship losses by the **** tons. Now, everyone (even noobs in a healthy fleet with a good FC) run them with no more of an effort than a good LVL4 (AE anyone?).
Take the AI up a notch. make it more difficult for even the most seasoned pilots to handle. Then we'll see how much isk is taken each hour. Eventually, you'll begin to see the numbers dwindle.
Problem: And I know this, Only the Experienced pilots and, yes, mostly PVP'ers will be able to handle the AI upgrade. That's why you give the null sec-ers something to do. Some of the pilots I speak to come to the Incursions B/C the massive amount of ISK that can be made at no cost to them. Plus, Heavy alliances pretty much have outgrown their 0.0 homes. Anymore, its not of great interest to have massive fleet battles. Many (And those in this thread) have stated that 0.0 is "safer than high sec."
To me, that screams that there needs to be something exciting to go on in null; and it wont come from the player base in high sec. Give them harder incursions too... but pay out in 0.0 should be much higher.
Add to the high sec incursions, limited involvement... 5 times into theater per day and your done... Null sec, however, no limit.
It's clear to most outsiders reading the rages (See OP), however outlandish they may be (again, so OP), that high sec-ers have it too easy and are now bait B/C null sec-ers know how to blitz the high sec incursions. Seems to me, everyone is board in their own back yards...
IDK, just a thought, may be wrong/right.
If EvE WiS is Space Barbie, then I'm built like a Ken Doll:
Nothin' but 14 inches of T'aint;
Smooth, from front to butt!!! |
Long John Silver
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
37
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Posted - 2012.01.24 09:56:00 -
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Empty vessels make most noise, as the saying goes.
Walk the talk, or STFU.
Long John Silver | Pirate Alt-áand Forum Troll. |
Florestan Bronstein
United Highsec Front
The 99 Percent
396
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Posted - 2012.01.24 09:58:00 -
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Renturu wrote:Take the AI up a notch. make it more difficult for even the most seasoned pilots to handle. Then we'll see how much isk is taken each hour. Eventually, you'll begin to see the numbers dwindle.
the only way to achieve this is to add a lot of unpredictable/random behavior to the NPCs (and that creates real problems with making sure that each randomized version of the encounter is still killable)
otherwise it's only a matter of time until the first few pioneers have figured out optimal setups and written the guide - at which point the masses while be there again.
also don't underestimate the ability of incursion runners to stack certain fittings/ships - they had more than enough time to save some isk to get new specialized characters if necessary. |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
91
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Posted - 2012.01.24 10:01:00 -
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Tell you what. I've got nothing better to do than **** around with the markets while I'm waiting for skills to train, and I'm a relatively reckless individual who's lost plenty of ISK on foolish purchases that meant nothing. Pop the money(ISK) my way and I'll invest it for you and yours. I have no clue what I'm doing, so I'm quite sure I'll waste all of it in a foolhardy manner, and the markets will go completely nutbar over the wierd ******* spending. Could work for you. |
Renturu
Tribal Spirit
Tribal Unity Alliance
134
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Posted - 2012.01.24 10:03:00 -
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Florestan Bronstein wrote:Renturu wrote:Take the AI up a notch. make it more difficult for even the most seasoned pilots to handle. Then we'll see how much isk is taken each hour. Eventually, you'll begin to see the numbers dwindle. the only way to achieve this is to add a lot of unpredictable/random behavior to the NPCs (and that creates real problems with making sure that each randomized version of the encounter is still killable) otherwise it's only a matter of time until the first few pioneers have figured out optimal setups and written the guide - at which point the masses while be there again. also don't underestimate the ability of incursion runners to stack certain fittings/ships - they had more than enough time to save some isk to get new specialized characters if necessary.
Yeah, I see now, time is the only enemy and even then, it will fade.
I say this then, NERF all ISK sinks then. If you have little risk - little reward. High risk - high reward. There is a reason in 0.0 you can moon mine and not high sec. But, I also agree that there needs to be a means by which the low risk areas aren't over-run by the boys with the most/biggest toys.
If EvE WiS is Space Barbie, then I'm built like a Ken Doll:
Nothin' but 14 inches of T'aint;
Smooth, from front to butt!!! |
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