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Zagum Darkfin Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.12 16:10:00 - [121] To summarize: Goons are asshats <--love that one RISE talks to each other BoB BoB BoB 6 BN BoB Pet Pet Bob Goons spam is HUGE!! Someone call an exterminator!! ..i..
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 16:14:00 - [122] Originally by: Zagum Darkfin To summarize: Goons are asshats <--love that one RISE talks to each other BoB BoB BoB 6 BN BoB Pet Pet Bob Goons spam is HUGE!! Someone call an exterminator!! what?
Misfitsa Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 16:32:00 - [123] Originally by: Zagum Darkfin To summarize: Goons are asshats <--love that one RISE talks to each other BoB BoB BoB 6 BN BoB Pet Pet Bob Goons spam is HUGE!! Someone call an exterminator!! I have no idea what you are attempting to communicate here sir.
Jacob Majestic GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 16:32:00 - [124] Originally by: Zagum Darkfin To summarize: Goons are asshats <--love that one RISE talks to each other BoB BoB BoB 6 BN BoB Pet Pet Bob Goons spam is HUGE!! Someone call an exterminator!! were you reading a different caod 6 months ago? ___ Originally by: steamy thank you Hippoking for doing a Jacob on the goons
herasin Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.10.12 16:35:00 - [125] you know what i love about this when you see PL in your space,insert your name instead of RISE course we may get a fight out of others eh RISE
William DeMeo Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.10.12 17:13:00 - [126] Originally by: arghy steelwill Cant wait until BoB heres about this- will they give back oct. rent? or will they just give up on RISE since they cant even fight PL. WTF is that supposed to mean? Yarr
Rhaegor Stormborn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.10.12 17:18:00 - [127] Originally by: Wesley Baird Guess the little secret of you lot paying rent is finally out...wonder if your membership cares about its lying leaders! How many RISE pilots have angrily shouted "We dont pay rent!!!" None. We all knew we paid rent. We all knew BoB prohibited us from mining certain moon. We all knew we would have to pay 5 Billion extra per month to anchor a capital ship assembly array. The thing that RISE didn't know is that BoB wouldn't even come and attempt to save them when a huge invasion occured. We paid for BoB's capital fleet so that we could grow as an alliance until we could hold space with our own. We defended Feythabolis for 9 months. RA camped our core systems with multiple POSes anchored for 5 months 23/7 and tore us a new *****, but we stood our ground as we knew the sovereingty changes would make maintaining their POSes in our space a *, and when those changes went live, RA was gone. The entire time paying 6 billion per month and being told what we could moon mine and what we could anchor at our POSes yet they only came one time in an attempt to assist us in removing the RA poses, and they lost 2 dreads and a carrier in the attempt and never returned. At least propogandize with indisputable facts. Rhaegor Stormborn** Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread
Vyres Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 17:22:00 - [128] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Originally by: Wesley Baird Guess the little secret of you lot paying rent is finally out...wonder if your membership cares about its lying leaders! How many RISE pilots have angrily shouted "We dont pay rent!!!" None. We all knew we paid rent. We all knew BoB prohibited us from mining certain moon. We all knew we would have to pay 5 Billion extra per month to anchor a capital ship assembly array. The thing that RISE didn't know is that BoB wouldn't even come and attempt to save them when a huge invasion occured. We paid for BoB's capital fleet so that we could grow as an alliance until we could hold space with our own. We defended Feythabolis for 9 months. RA camped our core systems with multiple POSes anchored for 5 months 23/7 and tore us a new *****, but we stood our ground as we knew the sovereingty changes would make maintaining their POSes in our space a ***, and when those changes went live, RA was gone. The entire time paying 6 billion per month and being told what we could moon mine and what we could anchor at our POSes yet they only came one time in an attempt to assist us in removing the RA poses, and they lost 2 dreads and a carrier in the attempt and never returned. At least propogandize with indisputable facts. I love it when the talk about defending Feythabolis for 9 months in EPIC battles when what they mean is having their core system locked down by 25 snigg and black ops members for months.
Natas Dog Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 17:27:00 - [129] Originally by: Vyres I love it when the talk about defending Feythabolis for 9 months in EPIC battles when what they mean is having their core system locked down by 25 snigg and black ops members for months. You forgot all the capitals sacrificed on their gates before sniggops got their hands on them. They had some balls of steel, before they were put in a vice and squashed flat. I know I had fun on pretty much every slosh op I was involved in where we crashed the RIT gate. _______________________________________________________________ He who laughs last... is usually the one the joke was about.
Rhaegor Stormborn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.10.12 17:28:00 - [130] Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 12/10/2007 17:28:37 Originally by: Vyres I love it when the talk about defending Feythabolis for 9 months in EPIC battles when what they mean is having their core system locked down by 25 snigg and black ops members for months. Unfortunately that was after I left, the 25 man gang locking down RHG-40. That never happened when I was around and therefore I have no knowledge about it, but you can search for me on the RISE killboard and go over some of the battles between Goons, RA, and RISE and see those epic battles where we killed 200 Goons and lost 3 ships. But as it is with many Goon posters, you talk about stuff you have no knowledge about as you are not on the RISE killboard until about one month ago and only 4 times in total over a one week period. Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread
Montasque GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 17:29:00 - [131] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 12/10/2007 17:20:52 Originally by: Wesley Baird Guess the little secret of you lot paying rent is finally out...wonder if your membership cares about its lying leaders! How many RISE pilots have angrily shouted "We dont pay rent!!!" None. We all knew we paid rent. We all knew BoB prohibited us from mining certain moon minerals. We all knew we would have to pay 5 Billion extra per month to anchor a capital ship assembly array. I do not think anyone in RISE was lied to by the leadership, but the tales of RISE "leadership" is an entirely different subject altogether. If what you are saying is true that makes some members or RISE look not only dumb, but liars as well. Many members of RISE have stated in the past that they pay no rent to BoB, and that they are allies not renters. So they were either fooling them selves, or trying to fool the rest of us. Either way, lol.
Vyres Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 17:32:00 - [132] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 12/10/2007 17:28:37 Originally by: Vyres I love it when the talk about defending Feythabolis for 9 months in EPIC battles when what they mean is having their core system locked down by 25 snigg and black ops members for months. Unfortunately that was after I left, the 25 man gang locking down RHG-40. That never happened when I was around and therefore I have no knowledge about it, but you can search for me on the RISE killboard and go over some of the battles between Goons, RA, and RISE and see those epic battles where we killed 200 Goons and lost 3 ships. But as it is with many Goon posters, you talk about stuff you have no knowledge about as you are not on the RISE killboard until about one month ago and only 4 times in total over a one week period. Fair enough touche.
Rhaegor Stormborn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.10.12 17:34:00 - [133] Originally by: Montasque If what you are saying is true that makes some members of RISE look not only dumb, but liars as well. Many members of RISE have stated in the past that they pay no rent to BoB, and that they are allies not renters. So they were either fooling them selves, or trying to fool the rest of us. Either way, lol. Generally RISE members are prohibited from posting on the forums. I myself, being a forum ***, have never once see a RISE post stating that they do not pay rent. I believe you are confused with Xelas and FIX. Please give me a link showing where a RISE member stated this, not that I really care, but just wanted to point out some more Goon bull. And you should trust me. I dislike Goons and (now) BoB equally. Rhaegor Stormborn** Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread
MC McMic GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 17:35:00 - [134] Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke BoB and the Goons are EXACTLY the same from a tactical standpoint. They will do whatever it takes, within the EULA, to put the other down. The differance is, THE GOONS ARE DOING IT BETTER (currently). The differance between BoB and the Goons, from an operational standpoint? BoB has more SP and an edge in logistics/material (ship quality, BPO's, industrial). The Goons, have more people. Actually, we have more people AND better logistics, if not materials. Ability to jump bridge =/= good logistics. Also, I like the idea of a "RISE Foreign Minister". Soon Lokesh will be the ambassador to RIT from Empire without even moving his office.
Vyres Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 17:39:00 - [135] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Originally by: Montasque If what you are saying is true that makes some members of RISE look not only dumb, but liars as well. Many members of RISE have stated in the past that they pay no rent to BoB, and that they are allies not renters. So they were either fooling them selves, or trying to fool the rest of us. Either way, lol. Generally RISE members are prohibited from posting on the forums. I myself, being a forum ***, have never once see a RISE post stating that they do not pay rent. I believe you are confused with Xelas and FIX. Please give me a link showing where a RISE member stated this, not that I really care, but just wanted to point out some more Goon bull. And you should trust me. I dislike Goons and (now) BoB equally. To be fair do you know how many crap post goon threads that rise could have said. I have seen said post as well I just cant remeber where and when out of the thosands of threads but dose it seem so unlikely that one out of 900 people could be mistaken and post about it. Anyway it dosent matter because everything we post is goon bull**.
Bluebear8 Orion Ore International Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:12:00 - [136] Originally by: Gloomrake Ono Originally by: Blank Protection BoB is not going to help R.I.S.E and risking needles ship losses while also trying to keep FAT and 25s. Trying to keep? serious? We didn't receive BoB's rental payment. 12 Billion /mo. due! An eviction notice will surely follow.
Oofig VanDoogan The Knighthawks FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.12 18:20:00 - [137] QUICK SEND A FLEET TO THE TRIANGLE TO SAVE SOME FACE Here be carebears!
Warsyn Caldari InQuest Ascension R i s e	Posted - 2007.10.12 19:16:00 - [138] Originally by: The Mittani Originally by: LoKesh Apparently talking to the Goon collective brain about RISE is like explaing an sunrise to a blind man. RISE enjoys a good fight. RISE prefers to fight with ships and modules. RISE enjoys making allies and keeping our word. RISE works on rationale thought and planning. Goons enjoying winning. Goon prefers to manipulate game mechanics. Goon enjoys spamming the forums and twisting truths. Goon internal releases contain many-many words that this forum won't let me print. We enjoy the battle, we respect our allies and we respect ourselves. If our members didn't trust their leadership, didn't want to fight side by side with BoB or didn't want to shoot goon - then they wouldn't be RISE. These facts and our ability to have repelled you for months seems to have drawn some unhealthy obsession by the Goon camp for RISE. So... NUTZ! The brave facade you try to put up delights me; it means we can drag out the agonies of your failing alliance for some time yet. Don't flee to empire yet darling, I've only just begun to play. Try undoing the zipper first, i've heard it facilitates matters. sigh kids these days.
Misfitsa Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 19:19:00 - [139] Originally by: Warsyn Originally by: The Mittani Originally by: LoKesh Apparently talking to the Goon collective brain about RISE is like explaing an sunrise to a blind man. RISE enjoys a good fight. RISE prefers to fight with ships and modules. RISE enjoys making allies and keeping our word. RISE works on rationale thought and planning. Goons enjoying winning. Goon prefers to manipulate game mechanics. Goon enjoys spamming the forums and twisting truths. Goon internal releases contain many-many words that this forum won't let me print. We enjoy the battle, we respect our allies and we respect ourselves. If our members didn't trust their leadership, didn't want to fight side by side with BoB or didn't want to shoot goon - then they wouldn't be RISE. These facts and our ability to have repelled you for months seems to have drawn some unhealthy obsession by the Goon camp for RISE. So... NUTZ! The brave facade you try to put up delights me; it means we can drag out the agonies of your failing alliance for some time yet. Don't flee to empire yet darling, I've only just begun to play. Try undoing the zipper first, i've heard it facilitates matters. sigh kids these days. Dude, are you trying to flirt with Mittani?
Warsyn Caldari InQuest Ascension R i s e	Posted - 2007.10.12 19:21:00 - [140] Originally by: Misfitsa. Dude, are you trying to flirt with Mittani?[/quote What...and dare risking the wrath of all of Goon??? Heaven forbid. That would be almost as crazy as...like...shooting at Goons just because you like to. Insane I tell you! Crazy! Who'd do it?!?!
Misfitsa Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 19:26:00 - [141] Originally by: Warsyn Originally by: Misfitsa. Dude, are you trying to flirt with Mittani?[/quote What...and dare risking the wrath of all of Goon??? Heaven forbid. That would be almost as crazy as...like...shooting at Goons just because you like to. Insane I tell you! Crazy! Who'd do it?!?! Do you know what the word flirt means?
Warsyn Caldari InQuest Ascension R i s e	Posted - 2007.10.12 19:31:00 - [142] Originally by: Misfitsa Originally by: Warsyn Originally by: Misfitsa. Dude, are you trying to flirt with Mittani?[/quote What...and dare risking the wrath of all of Goon??? Heaven forbid. That would be almost as crazy as...like...shooting at Goons just because you like to. Insane I tell you! Crazy! Who'd do it?!?! Do you know what the word flirt means? If it's listed anywhere in the dictionary near 'sarcasm' then i'd guess we're both screwed .
Natas Dog Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 19:49:00 - [143] Edited by: Natas Dog on 12/10/2007 19:50:30 Originally by: Warsyn What...and dare risking the wrath of all of Goon??? Heaven forbid. That would be almost as crazy as...like...shooting at Goons just because you like to. Insane I tell you! Crazy! Who'd do it?!?! I've heard you don't need to pay 6 bil a month just to shoot at goons. Ask Cult of Where'd All Our Targets Go, Damage Mitigated By Jump Bridges, or any of the other corporations that shoot us every month for free. Even Privateers get a bargain basement price to shoot at goons in empire. Edit: Fixed the quote ******ation you guys started. _______________________________________________________________ He who laughs last... is usually the one the joke was about.
Warsyn Caldari InQuest Ascension R i s e	Posted - 2007.10.12 20:03:00 - [144] Originally by: Natas Dog Edited by: Natas Dog on 12/10/2007 19:50:30 Originally by: Warsyn What...and dare risking the wrath of all of Goon??? Heaven forbid. That would be almost as crazy as...like...shooting at Goons just because you like to. Insane I tell you! Crazy! Who'd do it?!?! I've heard you don't need to pay 6 bil a month just to shoot at goons. Ask Cult of Where'd All Our Targets Go, Damage Mitigated By Jump Bridges, or any of the other corporations that shoot us every month for free. Even Privateers get a bargain basement price to shoot at goons in empire. Edit: Fixed the quote ******ation you guys started. Well see...I don't pay 6bn a month. I pay a monthly due of 15million. Which takes about 20 minutes to make. Then I spend another 40 minutes or so making ammo money for the month to shoot at Goons. It's good stuff. Would take me 10 times as long to earn that kinda cash back in Cloud Ring ;). Not to mention I wouldn't be able to then read all the Goon whines about Rise. See? Win win!
Natas Dog Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 20:07:00 - [145] Good point, I enjoy seeing all the goon whining about RISE too, well worth the 15 mil a month. Excuse me while I go look for goons whining about RISE, ever. _______________________________________________________________ He who laughs last... is usually the one the joke was about.
Phelan Driscoll GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 20:10:00 - [146] Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 12/10/2007 20:10:47 Originally by: Warsyn Well see...I don't pay 6bn a month. I pay a monthly due of 15million. Which takes about 20 minutes to make. You guys pay a monthly due and taxes? lol ETA: I swear, what's it take to get a guy b& around here _______________ Are GoonSwarm ever going to be allowed to build up in any way in 0.0 space again? No.
Joeyboy Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.10.12 21:00:00 - [147] Edited by: Joeyboy on 12/10/2007 21:00:09 Originally by: Phelan Driscoll Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 12/10/2007 20:10:47 Originally by: Warsyn Well see...I don't pay 6bn a month. I pay a monthly due of 15million. Which takes about 20 minutes to make. You guys pay a monthly due and taxes? lol ETA: I swear, what's it take to get a guy b& around here _______________ I'd rather spend 20 minutes making isk myself than hours mining ice. Then again, I get paid to blow up POS's.
Tevlent GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 21:03:00 - [148] Edited by: Tevlent on 12/10/2007 21:02:40 Originally by: Joeyboy Edited by: Joeyboy on 12/10/2007 21:00:09 Originally by: Phelan Driscoll Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 12/10/2007 20:10:47 Originally by: Warsyn Well see...I don't pay 6bn a month. I pay a monthly due of 15million. Which takes about 20 minutes to make. You guys pay a monthly due and taxes? lol ETA: I swear, what's it take to get a guy b& around here _______________ I'd rather spend 20 minutes making isk myself than hours mining ice. Then again, I get paid to blow up POS's. Who said anything about mining ice?
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.12 21:10:00 - [149] Originally by: Tevlent Edited by: Tevlent on 12/10/2007 21:02:40 Originally by: Joeyboy Edited by: Joeyboy on 12/10/2007 21:00:09 Originally by: Phelan Driscoll Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 12/10/2007 20:10:47 Originally by: Warsyn Well see...I don't pay 6bn a month. I pay a monthly due of 15million. Which takes about 20 minutes to make. You guys pay a monthly due and taxes? lol ETA: I swear, what's it take to get a guy b& around here _______________ I'd rather spend 20 minutes making isk myself than hours mining ice. Then again, I get paid to blow up POS's. Who said anything about mining ice? People either A) think the FTZ is still active in goonspace, which it is not, or B) they think because we once tried to work out a rental system for like a month we have lost all authority to make fun of other people for renting. Yeah I know it's weird.
GT Maximus Absolutely No Return The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.10.12 21:45:00 - [150] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Unfortunately that was after I left, the 25 man gang locking down RHG-40. That never happened when I was around and therefore I have no knowledge about it, but you can search for me on the RISE killboard and go over some of the battles between Goons, RA, and RISE and see those epic battles where we killed 200 Goons and lost 3 ships. Yes, I've heard. Kills men by the hundreds, and if he were here he'd consume the English with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his ass. Rhaegor Stormborn is William Wallace.

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