Originally by: RedFall

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How dare you try to argue my point with your so called "evidence". I don't need any, I have truthiness on my side.

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"I donÆt see the point in re-renting from BOB, Period, its obvious they cant keep their end of the bargain."

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Originally by: Garregus

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royofca will be so happy.

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Originally by: SpaceMoose

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Wait, So it turns out the RISE directors were lying to their members about still paying rent to bob after all? WHAT A SURPRISE!

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Originally by: Lucius Ventrue

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Nice metagame - really isnt a game of gamble if you got the other card players lookin at your hand eh?

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Originally by: Angelus Damelon

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Originally by: Garregus

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royofca will be so happy.

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He tried to help the RISE rank-and-file, he really did.

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Originally by: rycar

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Devian 666 is awesome quote this if you're down

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Originally by: Natas Dog

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Posting in an epic thread. I wanted to keep you rise guys around, I really did.

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Originally by: FGxHalsey

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I'm not an official on this but I'm betting that all RISE needs to do in order to get their stuff out is to contact goon diplomats and arrange terms. Again, I'm not the official on this but I imagine it would be something like this.

1. Set BoB to neutral or hostile (your choice).
2. Leave Feythabolis

Most people don't seem to realize there is more than a choice between goons and BoB. All we ask of those who do not want anything to do with Goonswarm is to not get in the way.

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Originally by: FGxHalsey

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I'm not an official on this but I'm betting that all RISE needs to do in order to get their stuff out is to contact goon diplomats and arrange terms. Again, I'm not the official on this but I imagine it would be something like this.

1. Set BoB to neutral or hostile (your choice).
2. Leave Feythabolis

Most people don't seem to realize there is more than a choice between goons and BoB. All we ask of those who do not want anything to do with Goonswarm is to not get in the way.

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Originally by: LoKesh

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RISE is, as you say, 'considering our options.'

None of these options include abandoning our members, abandoning our many friends and allies or abandoning our quest to wipe Goon from the face of Eve.

You have access to our boards, you can read the entire critique of Roy's drivle... or isn't that the type of thing you'd like your masses to see?

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Originally by: LoKesh

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RISE is, as you say, 'considering our options.'

None of these options include abandoning our members, abandoning our many friends and allies or abandoning our quest to wipe Goon from the face of Eve.

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Originally by: LoKesh

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RISE is, as you say, 'considering our options.'

None of these options include abandoning our members, abandoning our many friends and allies or abandoning our quest to wipe Goon from the face of Eve.

You have access to our boards, you can read the entire critique of Roy's drivle... or isn't that the type of thing you'd like your masses to see?

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Originally by: LoKesh

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our quest to wipe Goon from the face of Eve.

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Originally by: Cringeley

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Originally by: LoKesh

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our quest to wipe Goon from the face of Eve.

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IT IS TO LAUGH.

What the **** have we ever done to you that wasn't a direct result of you choosing to ally with BoB? Your self righteousness is completely misplaced and you are suffering needlessly as a result. We have never sought war with Rise, only war with those who stand between us and BoB.

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Originally by: Swamp Ziro

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I'm pretty sure we do now

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Originally by: Chest McManbone

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Wait didn't we try to kill RISE when it was NORAD or have we gone through De-Remedialization and purged that part of our history?

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Originally by: Cringeley

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Originally by: Chest McManbone

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Wait didn't we try to kill RISE when it was NORAD or have we gone through De-Remedialization and purged that part of our history?

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That is oldthink, from before BoB scoured JQV.


But seriously, that's way back, and since then we pretty much fixed on killing the people who decided to remove us from the game (BoB) or kicked us while we were down just for laughs (LV). If RISE hadn't decided that all they really wanted in life was to endure BoB's endless personal abuse for the privilege of acting as a human speedbump for RSF, we wouldn't have any ill will towards them at all.

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Originally by: Chest McManbone

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Wait didn't we try to kill RISE when it was NORAD or have we gone through De-Remedialization and purged that part of our history?

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Originally by: Xipious Oash

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Originally by: Chest McManbone

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Wait didn't we try to kill RISE when it was NORAD or have we gone through De-Remedialization and purged that part of our history?

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That was like 1 week between "lets step outside of syndicate" and "can I shoot this station?". Hardly even counts in my mind.

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Originally by: Cringeley

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Let me do a little timeline for you, RISE

Mid 2006 BoB threaten to drive us from the game
Beginning of 2007 BoB leadership are revealed as cheaters
Early 2007 many players, including us, wage war on BoB

Now at what point in this sequence of events did you guys decide to become BoB's battered wife, and why do you hate us so much? We don't hate you, we just want BoB's scalp.

Seriously, I've been hearing this crap from you for MONTHS about how goons are evil hehe dumb evil goons goons suck. Guess what, we didn't do this to you. BoB has done this to you. It is BoB who ****ed off half the galaxy and precipitated a war that, in the end, they can't win. It is BoB who has been taking your money and giving you nothing in return that you couldn't have got by the sweat of your own brows if you had joined a proper cluster of equals like RSF-IAAAC. And yet you persist with this crap. "Oh ya definitely we stay with GBC never be blue to ebil goonies nevaaaaaar!".

There's an expression for what Molle has and will always take you for. USEFUL IDIOTS. You con yourselves because somehow you think that BoB have incredible e-honour and are really great guys and that one day if you screw up your little fists and stick out your little tongues as hard as you can that BoB is going to come down from on high and grant you freedom, or equality, or even the slightest shred of respect. IT IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

You want to know where respect and equality and freedom exist? On our side of the fence, where we have friends and allies instead of pets and slaves.

STOP ABUSING YOURSELVES. STOP SUPPORTING THOSE WHO HAVE ABUSED YOU.

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Originally by: Tevlent

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Edited by: Tevlent on 12/10/2007 04:30:36

Originally by: Cringeley

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Let me do a little timeline for you, RISE

Mid 2006 BoB threaten to drive us from the game
Beginning of 2007 BoB leadership are revealed as cheaters
Early 2007 many players, including us, wage war on BoB

Now at what point in this sequence of events did you guys decide to become BoB's battered wife, and why do you hate us so much? We don't hate you, we just want BoB's scalp.

Seriously, I've been hearing this crap from you for MONTHS about how goons are evil hehe dumb evil goons goons suck. Guess what, we didn't do this to you. BoB has done this to you. It is BoB who ****ed off half the galaxy and precipitated a war that, in the end, they can't win. It is BoB who has been taking your money and giving you nothing in return that you couldn't have got by the sweat of your own brows if you had joined a proper cluster of equals like RSF-IAAAC. And yet you persist with this crap. "Oh ya definitely we stay with GBC never be blue to ebil goonies nevaaaaaar!".

There's an expression for what Molle has and will always take you for. USEFUL IDIOTS. You con yourselves because somehow you think that BoB have incredible e-honour and are really great guys and that one day if you screw up your little fists and stick out your little tongues as hard as you can that BoB is going to come down from on high and grant you freedom, or equality, or even the slightest shred of respect. IT IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

You want to know where respect and equality and freedom exist? On our side of the fence, where we have friends and allies instead of pets and slaves.

STOP ABUSING YOURSELVES. STOP SUPPORTING THOSE WHO HAVE ABUSED YOU.

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This^^. Honestly, RISE don't you understand that the only reason we are attacking you right now is because you stand between us and BoB. BoB is all we care about and we will take out anyone in our way. If you ****** off somewhere else and didn't offer support to BoB do you really think we would waste our time chasing you around? No. All we want is BoB, that is what we have come for.

Maybe if you just try to think for even a moment, you would see that RoyofCA wasn't just feeding you worthless propaganda. He was feeding you the truth. You are so absorbed in you own little world that you don't even comprehend the facts.

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Originally by: Mortania

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stuff

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Originally by: LoKesh

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RISE is, as you say, 'considering our options.'

None of these options include abandoning our members, abandoning our many friends and allies or abandoning our quest to wipe Goon from the face of Eve.

You have access to our boards, you can read the entire critique of Roy's drivle... or isn't that the type of thing you'd like your masses to see?

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Originally by: Mortania

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This crusade against BoB is only a tool that Goons use to gather more greifers and alliances to their banner. The only true goal Goons have is to destroy EVE as a game. How can anyone who loves this game, or gaming in general, ally with that? It boggles my mind.

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Originally by: Mortania

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I was incredibly soured by the actions of CCP during the BPO debacle and BoB. We lost more than one key member because of it. Though no solid proof was shown that BoB leadership and CCPs asshat were in direct cahoots, where there is smoke there is fire.

Goons, on the otherhand have a leadership that has a published article that talks about how they are proud of their metagaming, their blatant cheating. Nearly all goons act like the stereotypical internet 13 year old asshats both in local, on these boards, and everywhere else on the internet.

BoB allowed their unfair connections and power to corrupt them, but got revealed and had the decency to at least pretend to be ashamed by it. Goon have created a similar amount of unfair connections and power and it isn't a corruption, for they revel in it.

Personally, I really dislike what happened with BoB and CCP. But, I find the very fiber of what Goons have professed to be to be distasteful to me as a real person. You have no honor as game players, you are proud greifers with no sense of boundaries for game and life. If Goons and their ilk are the future of EVE, I just won't play.

This is why I'm currently Blue.

I find a deep sadness that RA have allied with you. They are consumate gamers, filled with honor and they will always have my respect.

This crusade against BoB is only a tool that Goons use to gather more greifers and alliances to their banner. The only true goal Goons have is to destroy EVE as a game. How can anyone who loves this game, or gaming in general, ally with that? It boggles my mind.

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can I have your stuff?

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Originally by: Muro Deez

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Goons cheating?

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Originally by: The Mittani

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I look forward to more of your suffering. Pets such as you are execrable little creatures, and I loathe them more than I loathe BoB. You and yours beg for your rent money back from your masters, yet you haven't the spine or pride shuck off your yoke. Pathetic.

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Originally by: Nemo Omnes

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MC finished the North off. (Great job!)

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Originally by: Mortania

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I was incredibly soured by the actions of CCP during the BPO debacle and BoB. We lost more than one key member because of it. Though no solid proof was shown that BoB leadership and CCPs asshat were in direct cahoots, where there is smoke there is fire.

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Originally by: Mortania

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Goons, on the otherhand have a leadership that has a published article that talks about how they are proud of their metagaming, their blatant cheating. Nearly all goons act like the stereotypical internet 13 year old asshats both in local, on these boards, and everywhere else on the internet.

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Originally by: Mortania

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BoB allowed their unfair connections and power to corrupt them, but got revealed and had the decency to at least pretend to be ashamed by it. Goon have created a similar amount of unfair connections and power and it isn't a corruption, for they revel in it.

Personally, I really dislike what happened with BoB and CCP. But, I find the very fiber of what Goons have professed to be to be distasteful to me as a real person. You have no honor as game players, you are proud greifers with no sense of boundaries for game and life. If Goons and their ilk are the future of EVE, I just won't play.

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Originally by: Mortania

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This is why I'm currently Blue.

I find a deep sadness that RA have allied with you. They are consumate gamers, filled with honor and they will always have my respect.

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Originally by: Mortania

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This crusade against BoB is only a tool that Goons use to gather more greifers and alliances to their banner. The only true goal Goons have is to destroy EVE as a game. How can anyone who loves this game, or gaming in general, ally with that?

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Originally by: Muro Deez

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Originally by: Mortania

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stuff

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Two questions:

1) Goons cheating?

2) Unfair connections? I assume you're referring to the GIA, and it's not unfair if every other person is able to do it. It's not our fault if you're unable to run a spynet.

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Originally by: Mortania

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I was incredibly soured by the actions of CCP during the BPO debacle and BoB. We lost more than one key member because of it. Though no solid proof was shown that BoB leadership and CCPs asshat were in direct cahoots, where there is smoke there is fire.

Goons, on the otherhand have a leadership that has a published article that talks about how they are proud of their metagaming, their blatant cheating. Nearly all goons act like the stereotypical internet 13 year old asshats both in local, on these boards, and everywhere else on the internet.

BoB allowed their unfair connections and power to corrupt them, but got revealed and had the decency to at least pretend to be ashamed by it. Goon have created a similar amount of unfair connections and power and it isn't a corruption, for they revel in it.

Personally, I really dislike what happened with BoB and CCP. But, I find the very fiber of what Goons have professed to be to be distasteful to me as a real person. You have no honor as game players, you are proud greifers with no sense of boundaries for game and life. If Goons and their ilk are the future of EVE, I just won't play.

This is why I'm currently Blue.

I find a deep sadness that RA have allied with you. They are consumate gamers, filled with honor and they will always have my respect.

This crusade against BoB is only a tool that Goons use to gather more greifers and alliances to their banner. The only true goal Goons have is to destroy EVE as a game. How can anyone who loves this game, or gaming in general, ally with that? It boggles my mind.

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Originally by: Mortania

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It's not BoBs fault you are unable to gain friends with CCP. It is something anyone could do. Paint your metagaming however you like. It's the same thing as BoBs. So who is worse? The people who are corrupt or the people who see the corrupt people and choose to be MORE corrupt?

Finally, it's not that I am unable to run a spynet, I would never do such a thing. Nor would I have observers in the gallery of a poker game to spy on others cards to gain an unfair advantage. I enjoy the games and playing those games by the rules and seeing who can succeed in that manner. Anyone can cheat and win by going outside of the rules. That's like stealing candy from a baby, where is the satisfaction in cheating and winning? I find none.

If your contention is that CCP condones such actions, then I find that to be even a more despicable team up than the CCP/BoB team up.

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Originally by: Mortania

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Originally by: Mimedar

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You pay rent. Which is utterly pathetic by the way, regardless of which philosophical side you take in this. Your mere presence gets in our way by your willingness to subjugate yourself. Grow up and grow a pair.

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You pay rent as well. I note that the tax rate in your corp is 15%. I've heard rumors, but it may just be idle speculation, that all Goon members pay 10% to the alliance. Tax, rent, payment, bribe, etc. it's all just semantics.

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Originally by: Muro Deez

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Besides, do you honestly think that your idols don't do the same thing?

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Originally by: Muro Deez

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It's a part of the game, live with it or die.

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Originally by: Mortania

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Have fun cheating and winning.

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Originally by: Mortania

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Originally by: Muro Deez

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Besides, do you honestly think that your idols don't do the same thing?

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Maybe you missed the part about where I explain that you are the worse of the two evils. I don't idolize BoB, they are allies.

Originally by: Muro Deez

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It's a part of the game, live with it or die.

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It isn't, that's the whole point. It's metagaming. Because everyone cheats, it doesn't mean cheating is part of the game. It's still cheating. Have fun cheating and winning.

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Originally by: Mortania

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You pay rent as well. I note that the tax rate in your corp is 15%. I've heard rumors, but it may just be idle speculation, that all Goon members pay 10% to the alliance. Tax, rent, payment, bribe, etc. it's all just semantics.

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Originally by: Mortania

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Originally by: Muro Deez

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Besides, do you honestly think that your idols don't do the same thing?

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Maybe you missed the part about where I explain that you are the worse of the two evils. I don't idolize BoB, they are allies.

Originally by: Muro Deez

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It's a part of the game, live with it or die.

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It isn't, that's the whole point. It's metagaming. Because everyone cheats, it doesn't mean cheating is part of the game. It's still cheating. Have fun cheating and winning.

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Originally by: SpaceMoose

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Holy jesus, can people seriously be this naive?

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Originally by: Mortania

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Originally by: Mimedar

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You pay rent. Which is utterly pathetic by the way, regardless of which philosophical side you take in this. Your mere presence gets in our way by your willingness to subjugate yourself. Grow up and grow a pair.

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You pay rent as well. I note that the tax rate in your corp is 15%. I've heard rumors, but it may just be idle speculation, that all Goon members pay 10% to the alliance. Tax, rent, payment, bribe, etc. it's all just semantics.

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Originally by: Mortania

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Originally by: Muro Deez

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Besides, do you honestly think that your idols don't do the same thing?

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Maybe you missed the part about where I explain that you are the worse of the two evils. I don't idolize BoB, they are allies.

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Originally by: SpaceMoose

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Well guess who you have to thank for creating the metagame that is making your eve-time hell?
That's right, your "allies"

Holy jesus, can people seriously be this naive?

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Originally by: Mortania

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insane words

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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley

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Oh oh. Goon that thinks he has a clue spotted.

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Originally by: Chest McManbone

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Originally by: Mortania

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insane words

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My God.

It's a Dissonance Cascade.

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Originally by: LoKesh

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Goon internal releases contain many-many words that this forum won't let me print.

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Originally by: Chest McManbone

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Originally by: Mortania

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insane words

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My God.

It's a Dissonance Cascade.

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Originally by: LoKesh

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Apparently talking to the Goon collective brain about RISE is like explaing an sunrise to a blind man.

RISE enjoys a good fight. RISE prefers to fight with ships and modules. RISE enjoys making allies and keeping our word. RISE works on rationale thought and planning.

Goons enjoying winning. Goon prefers to manipulate game mechanics. Goon enjoys spamming the forums and twisting truths. Goon internal releases contain many-many words that this forum won't let me print.

We enjoy the battle, we respect our allies and we respect ourselves. If our members didn't trust their leadership, didn't want to fight side by side with BoB or didn't want to shoot goon - then they wouldn't be RISE. These facts and our ability to have repelled you for months seems to have drawn some unhealthy obsession by the Goon camp for RISE.

So...

NUTZ!

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Originally by: LoKesh

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Apparently talking to the Goon collective brain about RISE is like explaing an sunrise to a blind man.

RISE enjoys a good fight. RISE prefers to fight with ships and modules. RISE enjoys making allies and keeping our word. RISE works on rationale thought and planning.

Goons enjoying winning. Goon prefers to manipulate game mechanics. Goon enjoys spamming the forums and twisting truths. Goon internal releases contain many-many words that this forum won't let me print.

We enjoy the battle, we respect our allies and we respect ourselves. If our members didn't trust their leadership, didn't want to fight side by side with BoB or didn't want to shoot goon - then they wouldn't be RISE. These facts and our ability to have repelled you for months seems to have drawn some unhealthy obsession by the Goon camp for RISE.

So...

NUTZ!

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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley

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How's prepubescent live treating you Mittani, good to have you whine on the foreground once more.

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Originally by: LoKesh

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Apparently talking to the Goon collective brain about RISE is like explaing an sunrise to a blind man.

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Originally by: LoKesh

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RISE enjoys a good fight. RISE prefers to fight with ships and modules. RISE enjoys making allies and keeping our word. RISE works on rationale thought and planning.

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Originally by: LoKesh

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Goons enjoying winning. Goon prefers to manipulate game mechanics. Goon enjoys spamming the forums and twisting truths. Goon internal releases contain many-many words that this forum won't let me print.

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Originally by: LoKesh

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So...
NUTZ!

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Originally by: Enthes goldhart

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i dont read my forums any more i just read COAD evrything seams to get here these days....

have you ever tried to fight with no isk agaist overwelming odds?

and to evryone who plays eve... do u really really want goon to win this war?? i used to hear how bob were ebil but tbh goon are just annoying and i would rather have an evil guy controlling the world than an annoying guy

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Originally by: Enthes goldhart

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i dont read my forums any more i just read COAD evrything seams to get here these days....

have you ever tried to fight with no isk agaist overwelming odds?

and to evryone who plays eve... do u really really want goon to win this war?? i used to hear how bob were ebil but tbh goon are just annoying and i would rather have an evil guy controlling the world than an annoying guy

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Originally by: Enthes goldhart

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i dont read my forums any more i just read COAD evrything seams to get here these days....

have you ever tried to fight with no isk agaist overwelming odds?

and to evryone who plays eve... do u really really want goon to win this war?? i used to hear how bob were ebil but tbh goon are just annoying and i would rather have an evil guy controlling the world than an annoying guy

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Originally by: Mimedar

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Originally by: Enthes goldhart

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i dont read my forums any more i just read COAD evrything seams to get here these days....

have you ever tried to fight with no isk agaist overwelming odds?

and to evryone who plays eve... do u really really want goon to win this war?? i used to hear how bob were ebil but tbh goon are just annoying and i would rather have an evil guy controlling the world than an annoying guy

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You don't get it. It's not a fight over who controls all of 0.0, it's those who want to control all of 0.0(BoB, via SirMolle in an article in a respected publication no less) against those who don't want anyone controlling all of 0.0(RSF). Don't project the will of your masters upon your enemies.

Feel free to correct me, thus far apart from some poor trolling and posts, no one has. I'm an admitted idiot and new to the game. It should be easy.

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Originally by: LoKesh

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Apparently talking to the Goon collective brain about RISE is like explaing an sunrise to a blind man.

RISE enjoys a good fight. RISE prefers to fight with ships and modules. RISE enjoys making allies and keeping our word. RISE works on rationale thought and planning.

Goons enjoying winning. Goon prefers to manipulate game mechanics. Goon enjoys spamming the forums and twisting truths. Goon internal releases contain many-many words that this forum won't let me print.

We enjoy the battle, we respect our allies and we respect ourselves. If our members didn't trust their leadership, didn't want to fight side by side with BoB or didn't want to shoot goon - then they wouldn't be RISE. These facts and our ability to have repelled you for months seems to have drawn some unhealthy obsession by the Goon camp for RISE.

So...

NUTZ!

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Originally by: Enthes goldhart

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so you are saying as soon as bob is dead your gonna take there space then share it out then when you are board attack all your old allies?

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Originally by: Mimedar

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Originally by: Enthes goldhart

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so you are saying as soon as bob is dead your gonna take there space then share it out then when you are board attack all your old allies?

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The common cause, for the coalition, as I understand it, is the elimination of BoB as a space holding and influential power. Not the control of all of 0.0 under a rental agreement to the RSF.

When that's accomplished, and it's not exactly a goal that's due to be finished next week, I don't know what will happen. That's a ways off. Stop assuming we'll be as bad as BoB. Apart from being forum warriors, we're not as bad imho.

It's too late for RISE now, though, I believe. I'm just a newbie grunt though, so who knows.

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Originally by: Mortania

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Stop behaving worse, then. Probably would have made your lives easy if you had come onto the scene and just said, death to bob, and then went about your business. The outcry and determination against both BoB and CCP were near universal then.

It's why I don't believe that eliminating BoB is your goal. I don't think it's changed from what it was when the Goon was formed from somethingawful in the first place before BoB was revealed to be in cahoots with a member of CCP's staff. Griefplay. CCP/BoB just makes it easier to recruit.

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Originally by: Mimedar

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I'm talking to you in what I think is a pretty civil tone.

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Originally by: CCP Prism X

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This topic is so full of fail >.<

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Originally by: Mimedar

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I'm sorry, I'm just a rank and file goon amongst the many goons who have joined this game and haven't posted on eve-o(there are a ton of us, yet you tar us with the brush of a few)...

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Originally by: Devilish Ledoux

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Spy detected! Who are you working for, Mimedar, if that is your real name?

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Originally by: Mortania

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You're mistaking "you" for "You", when it's meant to be "Y'all".

As for stereotyping, it's what humans do. Goons paint all GBC with the same brush, all GBC say Goons are the same, etc. In fact, everyone plays this game the way they do for their own reasons.

I'm still having fun playing, or I wouldn't be here.

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Originally by: Lee Bian

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i hope thats not his real name that would be ridiculous

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Originally by: Enthes goldhart

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i dont read my forums any more i just read COAD evrything seams to get here these days....

have you ever tried to fight with no isk agaist overwelming odds?

and to evryone who plays eve... do u really really want goon to win this war?? i used to hear how bob were ebil but tbh goon are just annoying and i would rather have an evil guy controlling the world than an annoying guy

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Originally by: Cringeley

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the privilege of acting as a human speedbump for RSF

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I like that imagery. On the one hand it's almost valiant, like throwing yourself on the grenade for your brosefs. On the other hand, it's kind of like a puppy who gets kicked by its owner yet keeps coming back and you're all awww puppy

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Originally by: Mimedar

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[ I'll leave that to the fine posters in this forum, who are like, totally awesome, and stuff. Lulz.

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Originally by: Mortania

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Originally by: Mimedar

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Originally by: Enthes goldhart

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so you are saying as soon as bob is dead your gonna take there space then share it out then when you are board attack all your old allies?

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The common cause, for the coalition, as I understand it, is the elimination of BoB as a space holding and influential power. Not the control of all of 0.0 under a rental agreement to the RSF.

When that's accomplished, and it's not exactly a goal that's due to be finished next week, I don't know what will happen. That's a ways off. Stop assuming we'll be as bad as BoB. Apart from being forum warriors, we're not as bad imho.

It's too late for RISE now, though, I believe. I'm just a newbie grunt though, so who knows.

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Stop behaving worse, then. Probably would have made your lives easy if you had come onto the scene and just said, death to bob, and then went about your business. The outcry and determination against both BoB and CCP were near universal then.

It's why I don't believe that eliminating BoB is your goal. I don't think it's changed from what it was when the Goon was formed from somethingawful in the first place before BoB was revealed to be in cahoots with a member of CCP's staff. Griefplay. CCP/BoB just makes it easier to recruit.

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Originally by: Mortania

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It's not BoBs fault you are unable to gain friends with CCP. It is something anyone could do. Paint your metagaming however you like. It's the same thing as BoBs. So who is worse? The people who are corrupt or the people who see the corrupt people and choose to be MORE corrupt?

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Originally by: Cringeley

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Originally by: Mortania

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It's not BoBs fault you are unable to gain friends with CCP. It is something anyone could do. Paint your metagaming however you like. It's the same thing as BoBs. So who is worse? The people who are corrupt or the people who see the corrupt people and choose to be MORE corrupt?

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The people who run this game have fiduciary and fair trading responsibilities to run it fairly.

The people who play it do not have any responsibility to play it fairly, beyond the rules laid down by CCP, proven breaches of which can lead to players being banned from the game.

What BoB did was a corruption of the entire apparatus of the game at the personnel level. Anything goonfleet has been accused of falls at worst under the heading of borderline exploit (the portrait pack). Everything else is plain old social engineering and isn't illegal or against the rules anywhere.

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Originally by: Mortania

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Goons paint all GBC with the same brush, all GBC say Goons are the same, etc.

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I've no problem continuing to stay in the GBC.

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Originally by: VoculusI just cannot fathom why you RISE peeps act like such lemmings. BoB doesn't care about you. Can you tell me that's not true?

You don't ever have to like the Goons, or side with them, but FFS, stop spending your RL money on an MMO to enhance the gameplay of an alliance who doesn't know the meaning of the words respect, civility, sportsmanship, or ally.

It's your money, and your time, so make it your game. Stop being BoB's kitty litter box.[/quote

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If they want to fight, based out of space in the south, they pretty much have the choice of the RSF or BoB. Otherwise, it's NPC 0.0.

Not everyone can be as cool as Tri and go it alone yet. When/if the Coalition wins, things should change.

I've gained irrational exhuberance from not being corrected as a noob yet. :woop:

Originally by: Mimedar

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Edited by: Mimedar on 12/10/2007 09:39:37

Originally by: Voculus

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I just cannot fathom why you RISE peeps act like such lemmings. BoB doesn't care about you. Can you tell me that's not true?

You don't ever have to like the Goons, or side with them, but FFS, stop spending your RL money on an MMO to enhance the gameplay of an alliance who doesn't know the meaning of the words respect, civility, sportsmanship, or ally.

It's your money, and your time, so make it your game. Stop being BoB's kitty litter box.

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If they want to fight, based out of space in the south, they pretty much have the choice of the RSF or BoB. Otherwise, it's NPC 0.0.

Not everyone can be as cool as Tri and go it alone yet. When/if the Coalition wins, things should change.

I've gained irrational exhuberance from not being corrected as a noob yet. :woop:

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Originally by: Mortania

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Originally by: Muro Deez

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Besides, do you honestly think that your idols don't do the same thing?

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Maybe you missed the part about where I explain that you are the worse of the two evils. I don't idolize BoB, they are allies.

Originally by: Muro Deez

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It's a part of the game, live with it or die.

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It isn't, that's the whole point. It's metagaming. Because everyone cheats, it doesn't mean cheating is part of the game. It's still cheating. Have fun cheating and winning.

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Originally by: Sigmorhair

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While we are making up stuff to call cheating despite what CCP has actually said - I would like to declare donuts, kittens and anyone who ever kills me cheaters as well.

Ban everyone who ever kills me TIA!

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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley

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Originally by: Sigmorhair

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While we are making up stuff to call cheating despite what CCP has actually said - I would like to declare donuts, kittens and anyone who ever kills me cheaters as well.

Ban everyone who ever kills me TIA!

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Are you a mushroom stalker? I'm pretty sure flaccid limbs are not part of the plan.

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Originally by: Sigmorhair

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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley

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Originally by: Sigmorhair

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While we are making up stuff to call cheating despite what CCP has actually said - I would like to declare donuts, kittens and anyone who ever kills me cheaters as well.

Ban everyone who ever kills me TIA!

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Are you a mushroom stalker? I'm pretty sure flaccid limbs are not part of the plan.

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I'll pass on your offer. In fact, it sounds like cheating!

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Originally by: Mortania

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You pay rent as well. I note that the tax rate in your corp is 15%. I've heard rumors, but it may just be idle speculation, that all Goon members pay 10% to the alliance. Tax, rent, payment, bribe, etc. it's all just semantics.

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Originally by: CEO Pyrex

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When Bob is dead and sirmolles account is cancelled i plan to restart ASCN and shatter goons from within

Whos with me!!!???.....




oh......

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Originally by: Cringeley

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Let me do a little timeline for you, RISE

Mid 2006 BoB threaten to drive us from the game
Beginning of 2007 BoB leadership are revealed as cheaters
Early 2007 many players, including us, wage war on BoB

Now at what point in this sequence of events did you guys decide to become BoB's battered wife, and why do you hate us so much? We don't hate you, we just want BoB's scalp.

Seriously, I've been hearing this crap from you for MONTHS about how goons are evil hehe dumb evil goons goons suck. Guess what, we didn't do this to you. BoB has done this to you. It is BoB who ****ed off half the galaxy and precipitated a war that, in the end, they can't win. It is BoB who has been taking your money and giving you nothing in return that you couldn't have got by the sweat of your own brows if you had joined a proper cluster of equals like RSF-IAAAC. And yet you persist with this crap. "Oh ya definitely we stay with GBC never be blue to ebil goonies nevaaaaaar!".

There's an expression for what Molle has and will always take you for. USEFUL IDIOTS. You con yourselves because somehow you think that BoB have incredible e-honour and are really great guys and that one day if you screw up your little fists and stick out your little tongues as hard as you can that BoB is going to come down from on high and grant you freedom, or equality, or even the slightest shred of respect. IT IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

You want to know where respect and equality and freedom exist? On our side of the fence, where we have friends and allies instead of pets and slaves.

STOP ABUSING YOURSELVES. STOP SUPPORTING THOSE WHO HAVE ABUSED YOU.

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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WTS : Jump Bridging service. Expensive.

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Originally by: Blank Protection

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BoB is not going to help R.I.S.E and risking needles ship losses while also trying to keep FAT and 25s.

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Originally by: Zagum Darkfin

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To summarize:

Goons are asshats <--love that one
RISE talks to each other
BoB BoB BoB 6 BN BoB Pet Pet Bob
Goons spam is HUGE!! Someone call an exterminator!!

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Originally by: Zagum Darkfin

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To summarize:

Goons are asshats <--love that one
RISE talks to each other
BoB BoB BoB 6 BN BoB Pet Pet Bob
Goons spam is HUGE!! Someone call an exterminator!!

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Originally by: Zagum Darkfin

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To summarize:

Goons are asshats <--love that one
RISE talks to each other
BoB BoB BoB 6 BN BoB Pet Pet Bob
Goons spam is HUGE!! Someone call an exterminator!!

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Originally by: steamy

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thank you Hippoking for doing a Jacob on the goons

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Originally by: arghy steelwill

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Cant wait until BoB heres about this- will they give back oct. rent? or will they just give up on RISE since they cant even fight PL.

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Originally by: Wesley Baird

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Guess the little secret of you lot paying rent is finally out...wonder if your membership cares about its lying leaders! How many RISE pilots have angrily shouted "We dont pay rent!!!"

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Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn

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Originally by: Wesley Baird

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Guess the little secret of you lot paying rent is finally out...wonder if your membership cares about its lying leaders! How many RISE pilots have angrily shouted "We dont pay rent!!!"

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None. We all knew we paid rent. We all knew BoB prohibited us from mining certain moon. We all knew we would have to pay 5 Billion extra per month to anchor a capital ship assembly array.

The thing that RISE didn't know is that BoB wouldn't even come and attempt to save them when a huge invasion occured. We paid for BoB's capital fleet so that we could grow as an alliance until we could hold space with our own.

We defended Feythabolis for 9 months. RA camped our core systems with multiple POSes anchored for 5 months 23/7 and tore us a new *******, but we stood our ground as we knew the sovereingty changes would make maintaining their POSes in our space a *****, and when those changes went live, RA was gone. The entire time paying 6 billion per month and being told what we could moon mine and what we could anchor at our POSes yet they only came one time in an attempt to assist us in removing the RA poses, and they lost 2 dreads and a carrier in the attempt and never returned.

At least propogandize with indisputable facts.

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Originally by: Vyres

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I love it when the talk about defending Feythabolis for 9 months in EPIC battles when what they mean is having their core system locked down by 25 snigg and black ops members for months.

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Originally by: Vyres

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I love it when the talk about defending Feythabolis for 9 months in EPIC battles when what they mean is having their core system locked down by 25 snigg and black ops members for months.

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Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn

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Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 12/10/2007 17:20:52

Originally by: Wesley Baird

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Guess the little secret of you lot paying rent is finally out...wonder if your membership cares about its lying leaders! How many RISE pilots have angrily shouted "We dont pay rent!!!"

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None. We all knew we paid rent. We all knew BoB prohibited us from mining certain moon minerals. We all knew we would have to pay 5 Billion extra per month to anchor a capital ship assembly array. I do not think anyone in RISE was lied to by the leadership, but the tales of RISE "leadership" is an entirely different subject altogether.

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Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn

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Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 12/10/2007 17:28:37

Originally by: Vyres

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I love it when the talk about defending Feythabolis for 9 months in EPIC battles when what they mean is having their core system locked down by 25 snigg and black ops members for months.

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Unfortunately that was after I left, the 25 man gang locking down RHG-40. That never happened when I was around and therefore I have no knowledge about it, but you can search for me on the RISE killboard and go over some of the battles between Goons, RA, and RISE and see those epic battles where we killed 200 Goons and lost 3 ships.

But as it is with many Goon posters, you talk about stuff you have no knowledge about as you are not on the RISE killboard until about one month ago and only 4 times in total over a one week period.

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Originally by: Montasque

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If what you are saying is true that makes some members of RISE look not only dumb, but liars as well. Many members of RISE have stated in the past that they pay no rent to BoB, and that they are allies not renters. So they were either fooling them selves, or trying to fool the rest of us.

Either way, lol.

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Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke

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BoB and the Goons are EXACTLY the same from a tactical standpoint. They will do whatever it takes, within the EULA, to put the other down. The differance is, THE GOONS ARE DOING IT BETTER (currently).

The differance between BoB and the Goons, from an operational standpoint? BoB has more SP and an edge in logistics/material (ship quality, BPO's, industrial). The Goons, have more people.

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Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn

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Originally by: Montasque

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If what you are saying is true that makes some members of RISE look not only dumb, but liars as well. Many members of RISE have stated in the past that they pay no rent to BoB, and that they are allies not renters. So they were either fooling them selves, or trying to fool the rest of us.

Either way, lol.

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Generally RISE members are prohibited from posting on the forums. I myself, being a forum *****, have never once see a RISE post stating that they do not pay rent. I believe you are confused with Xelas and FIX. Please give me a link showing where a RISE member stated this, not that I really care, but just wanted to point out some more Goon bull****.

And you should trust me. I dislike Goons and (now) BoB equally.

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Originally by: Gloomrake Ono

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Originally by: Blank Protection

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BoB is not going to help R.I.S.E and risking needles ship losses while also trying to keep FAT and 25s.

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Trying to keep? serious?

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Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: LoKesh

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Apparently talking to the Goon collective brain about RISE is like explaing an sunrise to a blind man.

RISE enjoys a good fight. RISE prefers to fight with ships and modules. RISE enjoys making allies and keeping our word. RISE works on rationale thought and planning.

Goons enjoying winning. Goon prefers to manipulate game mechanics. Goon enjoys spamming the forums and twisting truths. Goon internal releases contain many-many words that this forum won't let me print.

We enjoy the battle, we respect our allies and we respect ourselves. If our members didn't trust their leadership, didn't want to fight side by side with BoB or didn't want to shoot goon - then they wouldn't be RISE. These facts and our ability to have repelled you for months seems to have drawn some unhealthy obsession by the Goon camp for RISE.

So...

NUTZ!

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The brave facade you try to put up delights me; it means we can drag out the agonies of your failing alliance for some time yet.

Don't flee to empire yet darling, I've only just begun to play.

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Originally by: Warsyn

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Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: LoKesh

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Apparently talking to the Goon collective brain about RISE is like explaing an sunrise to a blind man.

RISE enjoys a good fight. RISE prefers to fight with ships and modules. RISE enjoys making allies and keeping our word. RISE works on rationale thought and planning.

Goons enjoying winning. Goon prefers to manipulate game mechanics. Goon enjoys spamming the forums and twisting truths. Goon internal releases contain many-many words that this forum won't let me print.

We enjoy the battle, we respect our allies and we respect ourselves. If our members didn't trust their leadership, didn't want to fight side by side with BoB or didn't want to shoot goon - then they wouldn't be RISE. These facts and our ability to have repelled you for months seems to have drawn some unhealthy obsession by the Goon camp for RISE.

So...

NUTZ!

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The brave facade you try to put up delights me; it means we can drag out the agonies of your failing alliance for some time yet.

Don't flee to empire yet darling, I've only just begun to play.

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Try undoing the zipper first, i've heard it facilitates matters. *sigh* kids these days.

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Originally by: Misfitsa.

Dude, are you trying to flirt with Mittani?[/quote

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What...and dare risking the wrath of all of Goon??? Heaven forbid. That would be almost as crazy as...like...shooting at Goons just because you like to. Insane I tell you! Crazy! Who'd do it?!?!

Originally by: Warsyn

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Originally by: Misfitsa.

Dude, are you trying to flirt with Mittani?[/quote

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What...and dare risking the wrath of all of Goon??? Heaven forbid. That would be almost as crazy as...like...shooting at Goons just because you like to. Insane I tell you! Crazy! Who'd do it?!?!

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Do you know what the word flirt means?

Originally by: Misfitsa

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Originally by: Warsyn

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Originally by: Misfitsa.

Dude, are you trying to flirt with Mittani?[/quote

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What...and dare risking the wrath of all of Goon??? Heaven forbid. That would be almost as crazy as...like...shooting at Goons just because you like to. Insane I tell you! Crazy! Who'd do it?!?!

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Do you know what the word flirt means?

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If it's listed anywhere in the dictionary near 'sarcasm' then i'd guess we're both screwed .

Originally by: Warsyn

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What...and dare risking the wrath of all of Goon??? Heaven forbid. That would be almost as crazy as...like...shooting at Goons just because you like to. Insane I tell you! Crazy! Who'd do it?!?!

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Originally by: Natas Dog

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Edited by: Natas Dog on 12/10/2007 19:50:30

Originally by: Warsyn

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What...and dare risking the wrath of all of Goon??? Heaven forbid. That would be almost as crazy as...like...shooting at Goons just because you like to. Insane I tell you! Crazy! Who'd do it?!?!

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I've heard you don't need to pay 6 bil a month just to shoot at goons. Ask Cult of Where'd All Our Targets Go, Damage Mitigated By Jump Bridges, or any of the other corporations that shoot us every month for free. Even Privateers get a bargain basement price to shoot at goons in empire.

Edit: Fixed the quote ******ation you guys started.

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Originally by: Warsyn

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Well see...I don't pay 6bn a month. I pay a monthly due of 15million. Which takes about 20 minutes to make.

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Originally by: Phelan Driscoll

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Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 12/10/2007 20:10:47

Originally by: Warsyn

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Well see...I don't pay 6bn a month. I pay a monthly due of 15million. Which takes about 20 minutes to make.

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You guys pay a monthly due and taxes?

lol

ETA: I swear, what's it take to get a guy b& around here
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Originally by: Joeyboy

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Edited by: Joeyboy on 12/10/2007 21:00:09

Originally by: Phelan Driscoll

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Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 12/10/2007 20:10:47

Originally by: Warsyn

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Well see...I don't pay 6bn a month. I pay a monthly due of 15million. Which takes about 20 minutes to make.

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You guys pay a monthly due and taxes?

lol

ETA: I swear, what's it take to get a guy b& around here
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I'd rather spend 20 minutes making isk myself than hours mining ice. Then again, I get paid to blow up POS's.

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Originally by: Tevlent

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Edited by: Tevlent on 12/10/2007 21:02:40

Originally by: Joeyboy

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Edited by: Joeyboy on 12/10/2007 21:00:09

Originally by: Phelan Driscoll

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Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 12/10/2007 20:10:47

Originally by: Warsyn

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Well see...I don't pay 6bn a month. I pay a monthly due of 15million. Which takes about 20 minutes to make.

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You guys pay a monthly due and taxes?

lol

ETA: I swear, what's it take to get a guy b& around here
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I'd rather spend 20 minutes making isk myself than hours mining ice. Then again, I get paid to blow up POS's.

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Who said anything about mining ice?

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Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn

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Unfortunately that was after I left, the 25 man gang locking down RHG-40. That never happened when I was around and therefore I have no knowledge about it, but you can search for me on the RISE killboard and go over some of the battles between Goons, RA, and RISE and see those epic battles where we killed 200 Goons and lost 3 ships.

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Originally by: GT Maximus

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Yes, I've heard. Kills men by the hundreds, and if he were here he'd consume the English with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his ass. Rhaegor Stormborn is William Wallace.

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Originally by: Mortania

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Stop behaving worse, then. Probably would have made your lives easy if you had come onto the scene and just said, death to bob, and then went about your business. The outcry and determination against both BoB and CCP were near universal then.

It's why I don't believe that eliminating BoB is your goal. I don't think it's changed from what it was when the Goon was formed from somethingawful in the first place before BoB was revealed to be in cahoots with a member of CCP's staff. Griefplay. CCP/BoB just makes it easier to recruit.

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Originally by: DBPreacher

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For the moment, we are leaving syndicate but we will continue to monitor the GoonSwarm and should we feel that they have done anything of note in the game, we will destroy it.

I am sure that some of those remaining GoonSwarm members will be rejoicing at having survived this long against us but I can only ask you were you have been recently.

Keep watching Goons, because we will.

We will be back, with gangs, with fleets, with BoB.

We command your game now. As long as you remain in GoonSwarm, we make you play our way and nothing you say will really convince yourself that this isn't true.

All Too Easy.

dbp

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Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
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Unfortunately that was after I left, the 25 man gang locking down RHG-40. That never happened when I was around and therefore I have no knowledge about it, but you can search for me on the RISE killboard and go over some of the battles between Goons, RA, and RISE and see those epic battles where we killed 200 Goons and lost 3 ships.

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Yes, I've heard. Kills men by the hundreds, and if he were here he'd consume the English with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his ass. Rhaegor Stormborn is William Wallace.

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All my assets from 2+ years of play are in RHG, and I'm not planning to pull them out. It would be nice if we could rep cloning and repair facilities at all three stations before we leave, so people can at least update clones and repackage ships/mods.

I will make it my mission to kill Goons and KOS wherever possible. But, if we are left hanging by BloB, you won't believe my thread on COAD until you read it.

P.S. I've sent two notes now asking for our OCT rent back. ATM I think Purge and Lokesh need to get in on the act.

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Originally by: DrDooma

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From the title of this post I can only assume of off two things:
You are Scott Adams (author of Dilbert). In which case; respect. Or, your read his blog ôFind the Cognitive Dissonanceö and then titled your post after it.

Please be Scott, that would be so cool.

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Originally by: WildSide

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even though I would prefer to be as neutral as possible....I would rather see the "bob/mc+ect" side win than goons+etc...
Imagen 4.5k asshats++ running around spamming local and forum even more. boosting and cheastbeating. shooting that was supposed to be blue...since its "all just a game, so why not **** everyone up" mentality is their motto. inc ruining about every coad thread u can find.

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Originally by: WildSide

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even though I would prefer to be as neutral as possible....I would rather see the "bob/mc+ect" side win than goons+ect.
imagen 4.5k asshats++ running around spamming local and forum even more. boosting and cheastbeating. shooting that was supposed to be blue...since its "all just a game, so why not **** everyone up" mentalty is their motto. inc ruining about every coad thread u can find.

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Originally by: FreeMarket

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During his time in RISE, Rhaegor stepped up a lot to FC and won some really darn good fights for us. The RISE killboard shows that (and RISE was always good at keeping the killboard legit.) GT I don't remember you stepping up at all, I don't know why you would attack someone who did?

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Originally by: Tevlent

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Edited by: Tevlent on 12/10/2007 21:02:40

Originally by: Joeyboy

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Edited by: Joeyboy on 12/10/2007 21:00:09

Originally by: Phelan Driscoll

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Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 12/10/2007 20:10:47

Originally by: Warsyn

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Well see...I don't pay 6bn a month. I pay a monthly due of 15million. Which takes about 20 minutes to make.

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You guys pay a monthly due and taxes?

lol

ETA: I swear, what's it take to get a guy b& around here
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I'd rather spend 20 minutes making isk myself than hours mining ice. Then again, I get paid to blow up POS's.

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Who said anything about mining ice?

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Originally by: Annie Cruz

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fire59, you provide the best quotes.

yes, even

better than

dbp

-dbp

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Originally by: fire 59

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It's called waking up still drunk and barely being able to focus on the monitor let alone go into details. Also, you think that one forward slash is alot of forward slashes.

Interesting

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Originally by: Areena Shay

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No matter how you cut it up, Rise withstood your alliance of 5x the members. Conclusion = Goons suck.

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Originally by: LoKesh

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RISE is, as you say, 'considering our options.'

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Originally by: Kalkin84

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You're being treated consistanly worse than we were, why do you even CONSIDER relying on them?

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Originally by: fire 59

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Edit - Although it was funny when that one goon threatened to beat me up in rl so i said okay and the sheer speed of the backpedal and excuses was amusing

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Originally by: Phelan Driscoll

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Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 13/10/2007 21:58:29

Originally by: fire 59

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Edit - Although it was funny when that one goon threatened to beat me up in rl so i said okay and the sheer speed of the backpedal and excuses was amusing

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Why wouldn't they? You're probably really a serious danger to others and would hurt them. Like father like son, they say.

ETA: You really should try to be more like your dad.
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Originally by: Areena Shay

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I have never seen a more pathetic group of cry baby jerks than Goons. Seriously, you people are adults in real life? Is this where you come to act out all those childish things you feel you must do, but don't want to do in real life because the whole world will see you as the pathetic losers you are? Must be.

Well, kudos to you, it seems your 5000+ strong alliance has finally started to take some systems from a 700+ strong alliance and it only took you 10 months! Oh the tactical wonder. Oh the powerful pvp you seemingly wield with such success. Sad, but if you outnumbered your opponent 5 to 1, perhaps you can explain why you suck so bad it took you 10 months? Oh right, here comes the well we never really tried to invade Rise before. Good thing their killboard shows otherwise.

No matter how you cut it up, Rise withstood your alliance of 5x the members. Conclusion = Goons suck.

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Originally by: Dreznengul

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Originally by: Areena Shay

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I have never seen a more pathetic group of cry baby jerks than Goons. Seriously, you people are adults in real life? Is this where you come to act out all those childish things you feel you must do, but don't want to do in real life because the whole world will see you as the pathetic losers you are? Must be.

Well, kudos to you, it seems your 5000+ strong alliance has finally started to take some systems from a 700+ strong alliance and it only took you 10 months! Oh the tactical wonder. Oh the powerful pvp you seemingly wield with such success. Sad, but if you outnumbered your opponent 5 to 1, perhaps you can explain why you suck so bad it took you 10 months? Oh right, here comes the well we never really tried to invade Rise before. Good thing their killboard shows otherwise.

No matter how you cut it up, Rise withstood your alliance of 5x the members. Conclusion = Goons suck.

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Man, having a 5000 person alliance is so useful. Especially when they're a bunch of re tards and any system lags to hell when 300 of them get together to try and fire at something.

Also, how does this magic number of how long we've been fighting for? I saw 8 months a week ago, and it slowly worked it's way up to 10months. We definatly havn't been siegeing them for longer than a month, I guess they're talking about black ops going in and ******* with them.

Well, I guess those black op's guys are a lot better than bulk goons but if you cant break a 25man gate camp lock down on your home system with a 1000 person alliance you must really suck.

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Originally by: Cringeley

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Let me do a little timeline for you, RISE

Mid 2006 BoB threaten to drive us from the game
Beginning of 2007 BoB leadership are revealed as cheaters
Early 2007 many players, including us, wage war on BoB

Now at what point in this sequence of events did you guys decide to become BoB's battered wife, and why do you hate us so much? We don't hate you, we just want BoB's scalp.

Seriously, I've been hearing this crap from you for MONTHS about how goons are evil hehe dumb evil goons goons suck. Guess what, we didn't do this to you. BoB has done this to you. It is BoB who ****ed off half the galaxy and precipitated a war that, in the end, they can't win. It is BoB who has been taking your money and giving you nothing in return that you couldn't have got by the sweat of your own brows if you had joined a proper cluster of equals like RSF-IAAAC. And yet you persist with this crap. "Oh ya definitely we stay with GBC never be blue to ebil goonies nevaaaaaar!".

There's an expression for what Molle has and will always take you for. USEFUL IDIOTS. You con yourselves because somehow you think that BoB have incredible e-honour and are really great guys and that one day if you screw up your little fists and stick out your little tongues as hard as you can that BoB is going to come down from on high and grant you freedom, or equality, or even the slightest shred of respect. IT IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

You want to know where respect and equality and freedom exist? On our side of the fence, where we have friends and allies instead of pets and slaves.

STOP ABUSING YOURSELVES. STOP SUPPORTING THOSE WHO HAVE ABUSED YOU.

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Originally by: Enthes goldhart

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i dont read my forums any more i just read COAD evrything seams to get here these days....

have you ever tried to fight with no isk agaist overwelming odds?

and to evryone who plays eve... do u really really want goon to win this war?? i used to hear how bob were ebil but tbh goon are just annoying and i would rather have an evil guy controlling the world than an annoying guy

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Originally by: fire 59

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Edited by: fire 59 on 13/10/2007 12:29:02

Originally by: Annie Cruz

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fire59, you provide the best quotes.

yes, even

better than

dbp

-dbp

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Glad you like them son. I can't really return the favour because i don't think some of the younger folk want to read in detail how you laugh about someone commiting suicide and you finding it hilarious

Remember it's a game kids

Edit - Although it was funny when that one goon threatened to beat me up in rl so i said okay and the sheer speed of the backpedal and excuses was amusing

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Originally by: Areena Shay

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Conclusion = Goons suck.

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Originally by: fire 59

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Edited by: fire 59 on 13/10/2007 12:29:02

Originally by: Annie Cruz

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fire59, you provide the best quotes.

yes, even

better than

dbp

-dbp

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Glad you like them son. I can't really return the favour because i don't think some of the younger folk want to read in detail how you laugh about someone commiting suicide and you finding it hilarious

Remember it's a game kids

Edit - Although it was funny when that one goon threatened to beat me up in rl so i said okay and the sheer speed of the backpedal and excuses was amusing

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Originally by: Fallen Buckshot

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they are in Delve mostly not Feyth so much

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Originally by: Bu Jinkan

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Edited by: Bu Jinkan on 14/10/2007 08:28:37

Originally by: fire 59

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Edited by: fire 59 on 13/10/2007 12:29:02

Originally by: Annie Cruz

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fire59, you provide the best quotes.

yes, even

better than

dbp

-dbp

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Glad you like them son. I can't really return the favour because i don't think some of the younger folk want to read in detail how you laugh about someone commiting suicide and you finding it hilarious

Remember it's a game kids

Edit - Although it was funny when that one goon threatened to beat me up in rl so i said okay and the sheer speed of the backpedal and excuses was amusing

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That was Firstname Lastname and he was trolling you jesus christ how many times do we have to explain this? I don't want to have to post the chatlog (permanently archived on our wiki under "fire 59")

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Originally by: ForkInTheEye

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Originally by: Areena Shay

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Conclusion = Goons suck.

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quoting cuz i'm down

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Originally by: Ungdall

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Originally by: Phelan Driscoll

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Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 13/10/2007 21:58:29

Originally by: fire 59

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Edit - Although it was funny when that one goon threatened to beat me up in rl so i said okay and the sheer speed of the backpedal and excuses was amusing

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Why wouldn't they? You're probably really a serious danger to others and would hurt them. Like father like son, they say.

ETA: You really should try to be more like your dad.
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I get it.

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Originally by: Eskarina Grimm

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Originally by: Ungdall

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Originally by: Phelan Driscoll

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Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 13/10/2007 21:58:29

Originally by: fire 59

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Edit - Although it was funny when that one goon threatened to beat me up in rl so i said okay and the sheer speed of the backpedal and excuses was amusing

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Why wouldn't they? You're probably really a serious danger to others and would hurt them. Like father like son, they say.

ETA: You really should try to be more like your dad.
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I get it.

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Ok, i don't get it.

Can some1 help me out on this one?

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