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Lord Evangelian
Gallente LEAP Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: sapanda1102222
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: sapanda1102222 It is clear that you were never wronged. Lots of people still think ****** was a wonderful guy today, mostly those that believe they were unaffected by his evil ideas.
Godwin's Law, Auto-fail 
This has nothing to do with likenesses to him and everything to do with those thinking the total opposite of the truth or in other words thinking something is great because they have not felt the bad sides of it.
I my self am black, from what your saying I should say the slave trade was a good think because I didn't feel the pain of my ancestors. It was a terrible wrong of that time.
But I will tell you it was a good thing though many choose to only think of the bad. Picture this a world with out America, Canada, Australia, South Africa, India, the Caribbean, plus all of the other parts of the British Empire. With out it they would not be there in their current state.
But we are going off topic. The main topic here is shielding CCP's name from the constant scrutiny of its player base through its own selfish attitude towards the game. |

Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:36:00 -
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considering the ass you have made of yourself on the forums, I'm not suprised they are ignoring you 
but just to be sure, pics or it didn't happen
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 04/11/2007 21:34:44 *EDIT* You know what, Tortun has this one under control...*
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: sapanda1102222
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: sapanda1102222 It is clear that you were never wronged. Lots of people still think ****** was a wonderful guy today, mostly those that believe they were unaffected by his evil ideas.
Godwin's Law, Auto-fail 
This has nothing to do with likenesses to him and everything to do with those thinking the total opposite of the truth or in other words thinking something is great because they have not felt the bad sides of it.
Thus you are comparing CCP to ******, by saying that CCP's actions are comparable to ******'s actions and Germany's non-jewish population is being compared to the EVE population not affected by the nerf. Still auto-fail. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in pink Forum Warfare |

Lord Evangelian
Gallente LEAP Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:38:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Evangelian on 09/11/2007 01:39:19
Originally by: sapanda1102222
Originally by: Lord Evangelian All I ask is that you show them some respect and think about your actions in and out of game and how it effects the rest of the playerbase.
If I am to show respect then I demand respect. Not answering an important and properly labeled petition for over 72 hours is clear lack of respect. Answering another petition of the same nature with the words to wait for the queue in 5 minutes only underlines the disrespect.
This is my point, are you forgetting how ever many other thousand people are in the game as well as you. Compassion to the GMs for actually answering it.
Picture when the servers go down how the forums are jam packed with angry subscribers wanting answers, thats the day in the life of a GM that we can actually see.
How many times would you thank CCP for reimbursing your ship, ISK ect
How many times would you whine if you didn't get it. Thats what you need to be thinking about. |

sapanda1102222
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme considering the ass you have made of yourself on the forums, I'm not suprised they are ignoring you 
but just to be sure, pics or it didn't happen
You are a troll.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:40:00 -
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WELL D'UH 
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 04/11/2007 21:34:44 *EDIT* You know what, Tortun has this one under control...*
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sapanda1102222
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Evangelian Edited by: Lord Evangelian on 09/11/2007 01:39:19
Originally by: sapanda1102222
Originally by: Lord Evangelian All I ask is that you show them some respect and think about your actions in and out of game and how it effects the rest of the playerbase.
If I am to show respect then I demand respect. Not answering an important and properly labeled petition for over 72 hours is clear lack of respect. Answering another petition of the same nature with the words to wait for the queue in 5 minutes only underlines the disrespect.
This is my point, are you forgetting how ever many other thousand people are in the game as well as you. Compassion to the GMs for actually answering it.
Picture when the servers go down how the forums are jam packed with angry subscribers wanting answers, thats the day in the life of a GM that we can actually see.
How many times would you thank CCP for reimbursing your ship, ISK ect
How many times would you whine if you didn't get it. Thats what you need to be thinking about.
How can some petitions be answered in 15 minutes and others not answered for 72 hours. If you don't see a problem with this then I have nothing more to say to you.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: sapanda1102222 How can some petitions be answered in 15 minutes and others not answered for 72 hours. If you don't see a problem with this then I have nothing more to say to you.
I'd say billing/stuck petitions are a bit more important than reimbursement petitions, wouldn't you? They have multiple queues depending on the priority of the petition.
Look dude, I'm sorry that CCP hasn't properly powdered your ass or replaced your CNR yet, but if you think coming here and making an ass of yourself on the forums is going to help, you're deranged. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in pink Forum Warfare |

sapanda1102222
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: sapanda1102222
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: sapanda1102222 It is clear that you were never wronged. Lots of people still think ****** was a wonderful guy today, mostly those that believe they were unaffected by his evil ideas.
Godwin's Law, Auto-fail 
This has nothing to do with likenesses to him and everything to do with those thinking the total opposite of the truth or in other words thinking something is great because they have not felt the bad sides of it.
Thus you are comparing CCP to ******, by saying that CCP's actions are comparable to ******'s actions and Germany's non-jewish population is being compared to the EVE population not affected by the nerf. Still auto-fail.
Maybe in your limited understanding I am. What I am actually comparing is the peoples reactions and simply giving two extremes. I could have said that those people who did not get e coli in their broccoli last week can not possibly understand why those who did are suing the store. Is that better for you? I'll go edit all my posts and you can do the same if you feel that this is a better comparison to the unaffected players reactions.
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Lord Evangelian
Gallente LEAP Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: sapanda1102222
Originally by: Lord Evangelian Edited by: Lord Evangelian on 09/11/2007 01:39:19
Originally by: sapanda1102222
Originally by: Lord Evangelian All I ask is that you show them some respect and think about your actions in and out of game and how it effects the rest of the playerbase.
If I am to show respect then I demand respect. Not answering an important and properly labeled petition for over 72 hours is clear lack of respect. Answering another petition of the same nature with the words to wait for the queue in 5 minutes only underlines the disrespect.
This is my point, are you forgetting how ever many other thousand people are in the game as well as you. Compassion to the GMs for actually answering it.
Picture when the servers go down how the forums are jam packed with angry subscribers wanting answers, thats the day in the life of a GM that we can actually see.
How many times would you thank CCP for reimbursing your ship, ISK ect
How many times would you whine if you didn't get it. Thats what you need to be thinking about.
How can some petitions be answered in 15 minutes and others not answered for 72 hours. If you don't see a problem with this then I have nothing more to say to you.
At what point did I say there was nothing wrong with it, I simply suggested rather than whining have some compassion to the GM for even answering it.
The only way I can depict this to you so you can see what I mean.
Example: -
You walk into a shop on a Saturday afternoon on the highstreet, and there is no one to serve you, all the clerks are busy. You take it upon yourself to stamp your foot and make a seen because you want you Buzzlightyear action figure NOW!
All I'm saying is to just have some understanding that they may be busy, no one to see to your petition.
I have waited 3 weeks to get reimbursed for my Navy Raven on a bug on a mission that allowed them to attack at 7AU. You can search the forums I did not make a whine about it. |

sapanda1102222
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: sapanda1102222 How can some petitions be answered in 15 minutes and others not answered for 72 hours. If you don't see a problem with this then I have nothing more to say to you.
I'd say billing/stuck petitions are a bit more important than reimbursement petitions, wouldn't you? They have multiple queues depending on the priority of the petition.
That is ironic. This is a billing issue and an account issue. It should be near the top of the queue. There are players that get reimbursement petitions for frigates answered faster.
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Look dude, I'm sorry that CCP hasn't properly powdered your ass or replaced your CNR yet, but if you think coming here and making an ass of yourself on the forums is going to help, you're deranged.
I'm not bein an arse. I'm sorry if you believe that I think posting my thoughts on the forums would somehow resolve a petition issue. You must be deranged.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: sapanda1102222 That is ironic. This is a billing issue and an account issue. It should be near the top of the queue. There are players that get reimbursement petitions for frigates answered faster.
And your ranting on the forum isn't going to make it take any longer. Have you try e-mailing kieron, the community manager? I'd say that doing that is infinitely more productive than whining on the forums.
Quote: I'm not bein an arse. I'm sorry if you believe that I think posting my thoughts on the forums would somehow resolve a petition issue. You must be deranged.
You're not posting your ideas - that implies a reasonable perspective made without allowing your emotions to taint the tone of your post. This is clearly not the case, you're ranting. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in pink Forum Warfare |

sapanda1102222
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:49:00 -
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Edited by: sapanda1102222 on 09/11/2007 01:48:56
Originally by: Lord Evangelian
At what point did I say there was nothing wrong with it, I simply suggested rather than whining have some compassion to the GM for even answering it.
The only way I can depict this to you so you can see what I mean.
Example: -
You walk into a shop on a Saturday afternoon on the highstreet, and there is no one to serve you, all the clerks are busy. You take it upon yourself to stamp your foot and make a seen because you want you Buzzlightyear action figure NOW!
All I'm saying is to just have some understanding that they may be busy, no one to see to your petition.
I have waited 3 weeks to get reimbursed for my Navy Raven on a bug on a mission that allowed them to attack at 7AU. You can search the forums I did not make a whine about it.
Did you eventually get an appropriate reimbursement? My issue gets even more complicated every day I don't get an answer. You losing a ship means you could still have borrowed from a trusting friend and went and done something else in the game you payed for. In my situation I can not do anything except post here so here I am.
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sapanda1102222
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: sapanda1102222 That is ironic. This is a billing issue and an account issue. It should be near the top of the queue. There are players that get reimbursement petitions for frigates answered faster.
And your ranting on the forum isn't going to make it take any longer. Have you try e-mailing kieron, the community manager? I'd say that doing that is infinitely more productive than whining on the forums.
This is hilarious. That is the first thing I did after waiting 36 hours. Quote:
Quote: I'm not bein an arse. I'm sorry if you believe that I think posting my thoughts on the forums would somehow resolve a petition issue. You must be deranged.
You're not posting your ideas - that implies a reasonable perspective made without allowing your emotions to taint the tone of your post. This is clearly not the case, you're ranting.
I said thoughts. Ideas would imply I were giving some sort of solution. I am describing my situation so all know such situations exist.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:56:00 -
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Because everyone knows, the guy that got banned obviously has a legitimate whine!
You have nothing better to do that **** around the boards and whine because you can't log in to cheat 
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 04/11/2007 21:34:44 *EDIT* You know what, Tortun has this one under control...*
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Evangelian
Other Suscribers That Care! > Tarminic > Bimjo > Betrenth > Le Skunk > Angela Toren > Benilopax
LOL!
Ive been outed as a fanboi.
SKUNK
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.09 02:00:00 -
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oddly I haven't? 
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 04/11/2007 21:34:44 *EDIT* You know what, Tortun has this one under control...*
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Lord Evangelian
Gallente LEAP Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.09 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme oddly I haven't? 
Find me a quote I will add you. --------------
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.09 02:08:00 -
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I've got millions! what kind do you want exactly? 
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 04/11/2007 21:34:44 *EDIT* You know what, Tortun has this one under control...*
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Lord Evangelian
Gallente LEAP Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.09 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme I've got millions! what kind do you want exactly? 
Showing that you care about EVE and support CCP rationally.... --------------
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sapanda1102222
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Posted - 2007.11.09 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Evangelian
Originally by: Tortun Nahme I've got millions! what kind do you want exactly? 
Showing that you care about EVE and support CCP rationally....
I support CCP rationally.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.09 02:17:00 -
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pssh rationally
never mind then 
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 04/11/2007 21:34:44 *EDIT* You know what, Tortun has this one under control...*
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Lord Evangelian
Gallente LEAP Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.09 02:20:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Evangelian on 09/11/2007 02:21:04 Edited by: Lord Evangelian on 09/11/2007 02:20:44
Originally by: sapanda1102222
Originally by: Lord Evangelian
Originally by: Tortun Nahme I've got millions! what kind do you want exactly? 
Showing that you care about EVE and support CCP rationally....
I support CCP rationally.
No troll intended, but you didn't seem to earlier, you seemed to only see it from you point of view, not taking into consideration the other players and the over worked GM Dev force.
EDIT: Going out for a midnight stroll/smoke, lets just hope the river hasn't flooded yet... --------------
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sapanda1102222
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Posted - 2007.11.09 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Evangelian Edited by: Lord Evangelian on 09/11/2007 02:21:04 Edited by: Lord Evangelian on 09/11/2007 02:20:44
Originally by: sapanda1102222
Originally by: Lord Evangelian
Originally by: Tortun Nahme I've got millions! what kind do you want exactly? 
Showing that you care about EVE and support CCP rationally....
I support CCP rationally.
No troll intended, but you didn't seem to earlier, you seemed to only see it from you point of view, not taking into consideration the other players and the over worked GM Dev force.
EDIT: Going out for a midnight stroll/smoke, lets just hope the river hasn't flooded yet...
Did you read the part about having a response within 15 minutes telling me not to make multiple petitions? Explain that. The solution to my problem takes as long as it does to close a petition give or take a few seconds.
I have no qualms with CCP about the game itself and thats the number one reason for me even posting. I will not roll over and thank CCP once my issue resolves itself a week later.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.09 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: sapanda1102222 The GMs arent interested in dealing fairly with harassment accusations and ignore you when you prove to them that there wasn't any. Why should we help newbs? The game deserves to die if the GMs don't attempt to fix their mistakes.
source
I was SO waiting for that opportunity 
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 04/11/2007 21:34:44 *EDIT* You know what, Tortun has this one under control...*
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Ariel Darklight
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.11.09 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: Ariel Darklight on 09/11/2007 20:23:27
Originally by: Lord Evangelian Bitter-Sweet-EVE Online Lets take a look at this for a moment, the current situation with EVE, and flavour of the months is: -
-CCP are killing EVE online -They keep ænerfingÆ things that donÆt need to be changed -Why is this game becoming such a grind for ISK, Reward, Ships and Supremacy
Has any one stopped and looked at the things being nerfed at the moment, or in the past for that matter? After doing so has any one looked at the whines that preceded the nerfs? My point is it is not CCP that is ruining the game. All flames aside, no offences meant, it is you, the loyal member base.
For lack of a better word, your æWhine CloakÆ comes out BEFORE the nerfing takes place. If you look CCP are just doing there job to keep their member base happy, doing what they do best responding to the complaints to their paying customers. As a result the very thing that is making this game so unique and playable (The fact the Developers listen), is what is ruining the game.
For example: -
---- Lets take 3 groups of different types of EVE online player: - Group A û The ôNatural Born Winnersö. A small group of players who find fits that are not in the factory manual. They will revolutionise the form of combat, mining, salvaging or any other aspect of the game to there favour by ôThinking out side of the boxö
Group B û The ôEasily Swayedö. The people who will support and try something that is good that will help them work. These are generally the Masses of EVE Online made up of new and old players alike.
Group C û The ôSquaresö. The general majority of EVE Online player who will do things by the book. They sat through the old 7 hour tutorial who think mining is the only way to make money, until they get bored and do what ever next it said to do. Or will generally wonder around EVE with less that 50 Million ISK in there pocket because they find it hard to make money in what ever role they choose but will never understand how people can make money faster or in more quantity than them. They are also determined not to adapt. ----
Now that we have the groups hereÆs the summary of what will happen: - - Group A finds something new that gives an advantage in game (i.e. Nos-Domi/Myrm, Nano-Phoon, Blaster-Thron/Trix/Rax, Passive-Drake). - Group A experiments with the new find and kills a lot of Group B/C. - Group B adopts Group As fitting and starts to gain equal supremacy. - Group C see that they do not stand a chance and are reluctant to change game play tactics. They start to whine on the forum. - Group C spend months persistently whingeing until they get recognising from the developers who now think there is a problem with the game. - After months of analysing the game logs and complaints they change the game.
That is what happens, look over old forum post if you like, go to EVE Search and look up Overpowered and see the content that comes up, 1300+ pages when I looked.
So again guys, as I have previously mentioned ôIÆm not jumping aboard the bandwagon express to whinesvile!ö. I would please request that you donÆt either because thatÆs what is ruining the game for everyone, you demand Developer intervention so they come. Do you think they would change the game so much if you didnÆt request it? I will leave you with that thought.
One of the more accurate posts on the evolution of eve.
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Lord Evangelian
Gallente LEAP Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.21 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Evangelian on 21/11/2007 00:30:19 The Countdown to Trinity If none of you have seen the amazing EYE Candy that our beloved DEV Team have sent us, click here now! If youÆre not excited and havenÆt used tissues to mop up the mess yet, after seeing the clarity and detail on those ships you will be.
Unconfirmed, but I have heard rumours of the release being 27th November 2007. That is not long away, and if your anything like me you will be anxiously awaiting to see how some of your ships will turn out. IÆm not just talking about some of the trademark ships like the Rifter, Incursus or the mighty Megathron. IÆm talking about the fantabulous (IÆm Not ***) faction/pirate/tech 2 versions of the ships.
I would also like to take this moment to wish CCP luck with the deployment. You have been good so far sticking to your server uptimes, even re-opening earlier which is always a bonus. Lets hope you can keep it up and have another smooth deployment to add to your repertoire.
Three Cheers, fittingly for Trinity -------------- My Pro-CCP Post |

Felysta Sandorn
Caldari System-Lords Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.11.21 01:28:00 -
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What about my Amarr thread?
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Wu Jiun
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Posted - 2007.11.21 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Evangelian And he improved the German economy for a time until it imploded in his face because he lost the battle of Brittan. You forget the fact that for those years of war he also united the entire world to combat his wrongs. He wasn't a bad person just was miss guided and did wrong things one of them being genocide.
Please read that sentence again and tell me you are not an idiot. Trivilization of genocide 4tl. You should be nerfed.
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2007.11.21 03:06:00 -
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Nice post +1
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