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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.02.23 08:11:00 -
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5km range? Man, if people decloack after jumping in their further than that, so this thing is pretty worthless.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 09:21:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Rage on 23/02/2004 09:25:05
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OMG you just shot yourself in the foot.
First off you just admitted that the price you would be willing to sell at after more get on the market, at 40m. So you just tolde everyone that you are ripping people off at 3x the price of these things. Is anyone gonna buy them from you? Not a chance.
You should of tried 60m and sold alot of them while you had the chance but once the bp gets out there no one in there right mind will deal with you. At 60m if you sold just 3 a day it would of been over 60m profit over the 40 m price you claim you'll eventually sell for. But no, you shoot yourself in the foot and wasted a ton of potential profit.
WTG brains
You know I am not arguing with you people. 40m if reverse engineering is in play, if you can build the massive amounts of Tech 2 components with BPs, if you have the skills to make them, if you have multiple prints (sloooow production). Think about it 2/3 of a battleshipÆs hit-points.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 09:23:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Rage on 23/02/2004 09:34:12
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5km range? Man, if people decloack after jumping in their further than that, so this thing is pretty worthless.
Yes if you have no clue where to place it. I bet your enemies know where to place it for you. Maybe they need a discount. 
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.02.23 09:50:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Rage on 23/02/2004 09:34:12
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5km range? Man, if people decloack after jumping in their further than that, so this thing is pretty worthless.
Yes if you have no clue where to place it. I bet your enemies know where to place it for you. Maybe they need a discount.
Jumpin at the gate is random you nitwit.
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Darklogan
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Posted - 2004.02.23 10:00:00 -
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TomB > the cost to make a strong 40km radius warp disruptor are ~50 mill isk in mineral price alone
No other comment needed. 
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Jim Bond
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Posted - 2004.02.23 10:06:00 -
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Maybe you mean 120 million for the original BP, but this is still overpriced as far as im concerned.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 10:06:00 -
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I think someone mentioned the bigest warp dist field was 50 mill......
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 10:24:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Rage on 23/02/2004 10:28:23
Edited by: Steel Rage on 23/02/2004 10:26:11
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TomB > the cost to make a strong 40km radius warp disruptor are ~50 mill isk in mineral price alone
No other comment needed.
Ok... Time will tell if that pans out there is much overhead here. You will also notice the part >>>in mineral price alone<<<.
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Martinus Crimson
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Posted - 2004.02.23 10:30:00 -
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Edited by: Martinus Crimson on 23/02/2004 10:33:50
We are all gonna laugh in your face now ... cause the word in Lum is some-one got the med BP and is selling em for 80 mil ... there you go with your worthless small warpdisruptors at 120mill ... you will never sell one now the med BP is out. And they are selling at 80mil.. will update here when i got more info on it.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 10:44:00 -
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Edited by: Martinus Crimson on 23/02/2004 10:33:50
We are all gonna laugh in your face now ... cause the word in Lum is some-one got the med BP and is selling em for 80 mil ... there you go with your worthless small warpdisruptors at 120mill ... you will never sell one now the med BP is out. And they are selling at 80mil.. will update here when i got more info on it.
Ok please laugh in my face when that happens  . I will wait it out lmao.
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Bili
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Posted - 2004.02.23 11:23:00 -
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The disruptors cost 120 million and they are a real pain to make. You can buy them at Amarr. The prices will never get much lower because of the time and materials used in them.
can't you up the price to 1.2 Billion? after all its only pirates want to use this, so screw them over as much as you can.
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.02.23 11:27:00 -
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sad news.
5M for small one: useable for piracy.
this prizes are ridiculous. pirates who argued against the automatic anti-warp field at each gates have been badly screwed. again.
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.02.23 11:28:00 -
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can't you up the price to 1.2 Billion? after all its only pirates want to use this, so screw them over as much as you can.
you sir, are an idiot.
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Steel Rage
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Posted - 2004.02.23 11:47:00 -
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sad news.
5M for small one: useable for piracy.
this prizes are ridiculous. pirates who argued against the automatic anti-warp field at each gates have been badly screwed. again.
The radius is 10 if you place 4 you will probably own that gate. You guys are a bunch of wieners. Prices will go down some day and that 80 million for a medium field is a lie and if it is not the guy is selling at a veeery small margin. You guys waste millions of isk on mods that give you a marginal advantage all the time. I will just laugh if the prices go super low on these the pirates will gank you wieners left and right.
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.02.23 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: McWatt on 23/02/2004 11:56:54
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The radius is 10 if you place 4 you will probably own that gate. You guys are a bunch of wieners. Prices will go down some day and that 80 million for a medium field is a lie and if it is not the guy is selling at a veeery small margin. You guys waste millions of isk on mods that give you a marginal advantage all the time. I will just laugh if the prices go super low on these the pirates will gank you wieners left and right.
as a "wiener" i m not happy with your use of the word.
the claim that pirates use expensive modules shows that you know "very little" .
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Saera Ezliha
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Posted - 2004.02.23 11:56:00 -
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Quite reasonable price in my opinion .
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Technolisa
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Posted - 2004.02.23 13:13:00 -
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The disruptors cost 120 million and they are a real pain to make. You can buy them at Amarr. The prices will never get much lower because of the time and materials used in them.
show us a BluePrint Screanshot... so we can see howmuch mineralls it require....
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HitGirl
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Posted - 2004.02.23 13:17:00 -
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120m is not even the mineral requirements for Large, Large is at 50m in mineral cost!
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Machiavelli7
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Posted - 2004.02.23 14:26:00 -
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Sure mineral cost might be 50mill-ish for a large one, but have you guys stopped to think about the component costs? This could quite easily triple or quadruple the total cost. I think it's dangerous and unfair taking TomB's quote literally there..
Steel Rage is getting attacked for no reason IMO, and while i'm sure we'll all find out the exact requirements sooner or later, he has the BP now of an *essential* combat item. If you want it pay his prices.
Hate to say it but we've all just got to get used to tech2 distribution being carried out in this way. I'm pretty sure when the first tech2 cruisers appear at (my guess) 200mill each the flaming will be even more insane 
Also, i don't remember seeing so much abuse when miner2's were being sold at 2mill a pop. Ppl seemed to grin and bear it back then.
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Dark Nyte
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Posted - 2004.02.23 14:52:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Nyte on 23/02/2004 14:56:48
Edited by: Dark Nyte on 23/02/2004 14:53:08
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TomB > the cost to make a strong 40km radius warp disruptor are ~50 mill isk in mineral price alone
No other comment needed.
Actually thats is like saying:
a raven costs 20,000,000 in mega alone but the rest puts it over 100,000,000
it means that one part of the construction process ie the minerals is worth 50 million but that does not include the componets that may or may not be needed to build it ? so none of you apart from the ppl with blueprint have the faintest idea what its worth!!!
Just look at how much interceptors are being sold for? and look at how much minerals there are in those? so where does the cost come from?
Give the guy a break? don't like the price don't buy the item simple as that!!! if hes got the BP he can sell it for what ever price he wants, Pirates don't seem to care much about other peoples wallets, implants or how hard they worked for what they got so why should a Industrialist be any less ruthless ?
your kinda lucky that someone is producing the item at all, There is a logic to sitting on the BP and not producing just so the enermy (the only ppl who need this equipment) don't get to use it on you!!!!
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Kin Hanyerec
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Posted - 2004.02.23 15:27:00 -
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it's not an unreasonable price... as long he is the only one to produce it, he can .
you should try to make some deals with pirates corps and large alliances . you will sell a lot more than by the market
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Marcus Grisbius
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Posted - 2004.02.23 16:18:00 -
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I know! I can ask for a screenshot! That way I can screw him over and make sure I pay slightly above mineral/component price rather than what I'd actually be willing to pay.
/end sarcasm
C'mon folks, have you sent an email over to Coca-Cola and asked them what their formula is to see whether or not it was worth buying it at that price? It doesn't matter if the cost of building it is anywhere near the price it's being sold for. Stop trying to set a impose a value for their products. Their time and effort to build as well as acquire the bp is theirs to value. If it's worth that much to you, buy it. If not, then let them wait it out and drop the price to a point where you can afford it. Or you could always put in the effort to get the bp.
Remember that computers in 90's cost as much or more than they do now but did half as much as they do today. Technology prices go down after a while, this will too. But if you absolutely have to be the first kid on the block to have one, you'll throw in the money. |
Cell Satimo
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Posted - 2004.02.23 16:51:00 -
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While 120mil might be too much, 20m might get some takers.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2004.02.23 17:13:00 -
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Dont forget that npcs drop these items as well so they will leak on to the market at greatly reduced costs soon enough as well.
120mil? Sounds like somone is trying to pull of a trick like the Miner II's.
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Naal Morno
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Posted - 2004.02.23 17:16:00 -
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Well, to shut you ALL up...
Tell me what is mineral price of local hull conversion cargo expander and then tell me please market price... or these XL CL-5 shield boosters you buy, or named guns, or....whatever YOU SELL to other people...
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Kalok
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Posted - 2004.02.23 17:30:00 -
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Steel Rage I can't tell you enough how glad I am you are selling it for 120 MILJ.
Luve ya baby and keep it up. Enjoy the bump.
Greetz, Kalok.
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.02.23 17:49:00 -
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This makes me want to pod all you nubs.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.23 17:49:00 -
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While 120mil might be too much, 20m might get some takers.
Pathetic. You try to impose YOUR prices on this guy? As for npc drops, LOL yeah right.
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.02.23 18:47:00 -
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Can you post what it needs to be produced. I might be able to help you out...
..or convo me in game
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Reah
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Posted - 2004.02.23 19:55:00 -
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lol this thread is so full of idiots its hillarious, why do ppl expect that they should be able to buy everythign at production cost + a little more based on the production costs as profit for the seller?
this aint how things work, in eve, and mostly not in RL either..
Eve has a free market, witch means u can demand the price u want, and how mutch u will offer for something..
this means steel rage can demand 1bil if he wants per item.. its nothign wrong in it, i dont see why ppl are *****ing and whining, if u dont wanna pay the price go buy at someone else.. or dont buy it at all
why should Steel rage have to justify his prices? dont like it? dont buy it, if he prices the item too high he might not sell as many as he'd like, or mabye he does? mabye he is actually selling them at the rate hes able to produce them, if so hes only being smart, afaik hes the only one with a BP, so there might be some willing to pay the 120mil for the item, it can still be quite effective if used properly.. if hes making more than hes producing atm im sure he will lower the price when he gets a surplus etc.
go cry somewhere else  , im tired to read about how everyone who has a monopoly is raping everyone else, try to keep in mind those BP's are expencive, production costs dosent only include the minerals needed to make 1 item..
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