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Crausaum
Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.10.15 04:53:00 -
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In light of recent evidence that has been secured by The Cyrene Initiative through a source inside the Federation administration and through documents dead dropped to us we have decided to pursue a war upon the APEX Conglomerate for their actions in the Placid region and their abuses of trust.
Attempts to manipulate the residents of Placid into becoming the pawns of the Caldari State will not be tolerated. Evidence provided to us implicates the APEX Conglomerate as being party to a subversion of Federation justice in a cynical attempt to use the plight of the peoples of Placid to further the goals of the State.
Furthermore their past declaration of war against the Acheron Federation shows they will hide behind any excuse in order further the States goals of covertly attacking the Federation.
As such we intend commit war against the APEX Conglomerate until such time they no longer pose a threat to the peoples of the Federation or will act against Federation interests.
A short section of the documents that motivated Cyrene to adopt this stance are attached below
Quote: Federal Intelligence Office
CLASSIFIED JULY 25, 109
MEMORANDUM FOR MR. SOURO FOIRITAN PRESIDENTIAL BRANCH
Subject: Anti-Federal Operations
Enclosed for your consideration are papers prepared in response to your memorandum of July 22. These papers contain a complete listing of all ongoing and recent anti-Federation actions taken by groups inside Federation space and surrounding regions.
Apaset Orviegnoure Acting FIO Chairman
Enclosred: Papers on anti-Federal actions.
CLASSIFIED Downgraded at 15 year intervals; not automatically declassified.
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Crausaum
Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.10.15 04:53:00 -
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Edited by: Crausaum on 15/10/2007 04:56:22
Quote: CLASSIFIED -Page 18- Groups Involved: Sukuuvestaa Corporation, Illoren, APEX Conglomerate Localization: Placid Region, Syndicate Region Overview: Active attempts by Sukuuvestaa corporation to incite Intaki separatists and cause economic disruption to the Federation economy. Status: Action terminated by Federal Intelligence and Customs task force.
Background As I am sure you are no doubt aware the recent trend towards recession in the Caldari State has caused the Mega-Corporations to become more aggressive in their attempts to regain a stable foothold. Sukuuvestaa corporation is no exception but they have gone a step further and begun active attempts to harm the Federation's economy; which they view as the reason for their recession.
Federation Customs recently found the Serpentis Corporation to be smuggling a highly addictive new drug known as RISE into the Placid Region and began an investigation into the smuggling ring only to have their investigation interfered with by a group calling itself Illoren. During the investigation it became clear that the Illoren were intercepting Serpentis drug shipments but withholding these shipments from Federal Customs officers and thus hindering the investigation. Suspicions about the group began to mount when local newspapers reported the ineffectiveness of Federal officials and reported on the brave actions of local capusuleer groups, two of these being the Illoren and APEX Conglomerate. At this point Customs officers alerted the Federal Intelligence Office and an investigation into the capsuleer corporations involved with the interceptions. Through this it was learned that the Illoren were interfering with Federal officials in an attempt to create tensions between the citizens of Placid and the Federation. Close examination of the financial records of the Illoren group revealed significant amounts of funds being transfered to the Illoren from the Sukuuvestaa corporation through the use of certain pilots in the APEX conglomerate. The reason for the rather poor attempts to hide remains unclear at this time but is most likely to blame on Sukuuvestaa's relative lack of experience in anti-government actions.
Further details are available by reading the extended reports under the case files FIO-7594-1857-3184-0641-6742 and FCO-8923-2342-5457-3252-6322.
Outcome With the arrest of many of the Serpentis pilots involved in the smuggling ring and the very public expulsion of the Illoren from the Federation the window has closed on the Sukuuvestaa corporation's ability to capitalize on the rift in Placid/Federation relations it is unlikely they will attempt an operation in this area soon. Monitoring of the APEX Conglomerate continued until the expiration of the FIO's Concord warrant, some curious transactions were observed but due to the constraints of the warrant further investigations are impossible.
Possibly Retaliatory Measures Economic Actions ū As a business the Sukuuvestaa corporation is mainly interested in ensuring good returns to its shareholders and workers, as such economic actions are likely the the best way to ensure future observation of the bounds between -Page 18- CLASSIFIED
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Irias Salo
Caldari The Star Wolves Aunni Ti Tsuun Consortium
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Posted - 2007.10.15 06:17:00 -
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Well this is going to be interesting to watch.
Originally by: Ginger. There is no roleplay, there is only EVE
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Yulith Marek
Little Sapling
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Posted - 2007.10.15 06:21:00 -
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I hope those caldari show you a thing or two...except the pretty jean controlleur!
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Pulgor
Independence Autarchy
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Posted - 2007.10.15 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Yulith Marek I hope those caldari show you a thing or two...except the pretty jean controlleur!
Oh you're just mad because they threw you out.
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Thuul'Khalat
Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.15 07:42:00 -
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On behalf of the Acheron Federation I wish you the best of luck Crausaum. ---
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Ladel Teravada
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.10.15 07:59:00 -
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Edited by: Ladel Teravada on 15/10/2007 07:59:30 Out of personal curiosity.. Will this mean that Cyrene fleets will traverse Caldari space?
Commodore Ladel Teravada Executive Officer, Fleet Operations
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Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.10.15 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Crausaum ...a cynical attempt to use the plight of the peoples of Placid to further the goals of the State.
Umm... Wouldn't the fact that the people of Placid are in a "plight" sort of imply that the Federation is not taking care of their needs? And thus under a suppossedly democratic and humanitarian system, wouldn't they have the option of choosing somebody else that can take care of their needs?.. Or are the notions of liberty, freedom, and choice just pretty platitudes that the Federation spouts out to make itself look good?.. I'm not an overly huge fan of the State, nor one of APEX, but this war certainly seems a bit odd..
One might even call the war an attempt to deflect blame.. Blame for the utter ineptitude of the Federation in policing it's own territory.. Honestly, why should the actions of independent capsuleers even be required to stop a Serpentis smuggling organization?? Where was the Fed Navy or CONCORD police??.. And why would those capsuleers suddenly be blamed and ousted from Federation space after being successful??.. Perhaps to placate the Federation's wounded pride? To shovel the blame elsewhere and take the credit themselves?.. This war is a sham.. It's a blind to distract the short attention-span sheep that populate the Gallente welfare state.. It is the hypocrisy of the Gallente welfare state in full form..
I don't support the Caldari State.. APEX has long been at war with the Guristas organizations.. If anything, I should cheer this war whole-heartedly.. But I don't.. It's the action of a corrupt government that is all too similar to the Caldari State itself.. And that is something I could never support.. This spade needs to be called a spade.. This war appears to be nothing more than "a cynical attempt to use the plight of the peoples of Placid to further the goals of the [Federation]"..
Taxman III: Attack of the Blob
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John Tanashima
Caldari Ekchuah Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.10.15 08:19:00 -
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I note with regret that freedom of opinion is goodą as long as those damn Intakis keep their subservient place in the federation.
Has Apex fomented armed rebellion in Placid, or did they just express their views on the Intaki plight?
Can you please remind me how expressing ones view is a federal crime?
John Tanashima CEO, Contre-Amiral Ekchuah Incorporated |

PiF
Gallente TAKAGI Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.15 09:28:00 -
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This is confirming Admiral Takagi's analysis of Caldari political situation (Ref. previous TAKAGI Corp statements).
On behalf of the TAKAGI Corp, we wish you luck in your campaign and we are standing by, should you need our assistance.
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Usagi Tsukino
Caldari APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.15 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ladel Teravada Edited by: Ladel Teravada on 15/10/2007 07:59:30 Out of personal curiosity.. Will this mean that Cyrene fleets will traverse Caldari space?
They don't seem to have much choice, Commodore, as with the exception of a couple of Buzzard class scout ships doing some archeological work; we have no ships within Federation borders.
And if we do, they are operating there for their own personal reasons. ---
Usagi Tsukino // Security Director APEX Unlimited // Public Channel: APEXCOM |

Amaron Ghant
Caldari Ascent of Ages Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.15 11:30:00 -
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Oh this is too precious.
SF must be chortling all the way to the hanger deck. Cyrene and Apex eh?  |

Cypress Cavalero
The Steel Ravens
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Posted - 2007.10.15 11:37:00 -
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hmm, this alledged incurusion by the practial Sukuuvestaa Corporation is slightly concerning, whilst sukuu is known for its underhanded economic practises a millitant incursuion of such nature sund more like an extremist patriot factions doing. An investigation must be held into this matter to determine if this action was supported by the C.E.P, this could be the start of other factional support for the patriots cause and maybe the start of something big...
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.15 12:00:00 -
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I find it amusing Crausaum, that you see fit to publicise documentation from the Federal Intelligence Office that blatently has "CLASSIFIED" stamped all over it. No less on GalNet, a resource open to anyone and everyone.
I also find it amusing that you leave case file references clear as day in said documentation to further information regarding the subject.
Hopefully your OPSEC during the war will actually be ...well, perhaps it will exist in some way shape or form.
Federation "Loyalists" publically leaking "Classified" documentation from their own Intelligence office, no less documentation shared at the highest level, is somewhat amusing.
Keep working hard guys, hopefully you'll get as good as CAIN and bag a freighter full of your own citizens.
Now that would be golden.
>>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
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Cypress Cavalero
The Steel Ravens
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Posted - 2007.10.15 12:03:00 -
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well said mr verone this does smell of propaganda to me being as these "classified" documents have been leaked
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.10.15 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Vladimir Norkoff
One might even call the war an attempt to deflect blame.. Blame for the utter ineptitude of the Federation in policing it's own territory.. Honestly, why should the actions of independent capsuleers even be required to stop a Serpentis smuggling organization?? Where was the Fed Navy or CONCORD police??.. And why would those capsuleers suddenly be blamed and ousted from Federation space after being successful??.. Perhaps to placate the Federation's wounded pride? To shovel the blame elsewhere and take the credit themselves?.. This war is a sham.. It's a blind to distract the short attention-span sheep that populate the Gallente welfare state.. It is the hypocrisy of the Gallente welfare state in full form..
Basically you missed the fact that there is a 18 page document, that clearly uses barely one page to speak about the Caldari corporations that are involved in this situation.
The fingers are pointed inwards as well and while the actions for fixing the internal problems is not going to be published unless they are affected by it, for the external factors it doesn't have to be the same.
------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it. |

Jack Malus
Gallente The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.15 12:54:00 -
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Good luck CYI though I think APEX will be in need of it more.
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.10.15 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Keep working hard guys, hopefully you'll get as good as CAIN and bag a freighter full of your own citizens.
Now that would be golden.
We do intent to do that if you and your corpmates are the only ones in this vessel. Because otherwise we are more likely to stand by the protesters instead of standing against them.
Try harder next time.
------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it. |

Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2007.10.15 13:22:00 -
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In the past, Placid Reborn has often cooperated with APEX in the fight against piracy in Placid and does not agree with CYI's assessment of the situation. We tried to calm down the waves and did our best to prevent this war, but obviously were unable to do so.
Since we do not wish to take part in a war we do not see as justified, Placid Reborn has left The Cyrene Initiative and will try to remain neutral in this fight.
Corporation RP channel: "PlacidReborn" |

Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.10.15 14:06:00 -
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The specific charges here seem to be that mercenaries paid by Caldari megacorporations and the APEX Conglomerate were doing a job which Federation customs authorities were unwilling or unable to do, and through doing so assisting the economic and social development of the Placid region, an area of space long neglected by the Federation itself. The only "crime" that seems to have been committed by APEX or any other Caldari corporation in this particular incident is making Federal authorities look bad. We in the Reserve certainly hope this is not the full extent of the Cyrene Initiative's casus belli. If there are, in fact, more serious charges to be made, we hope that the Initiative will make those charges public -- certainly, if APEX or others were encouraging an armed rebellion against Federal authorities, that would be beyond the pale. However, the economic development of the Placid region, whether by domestic or foreign investment, is something of great importance to the Intaki people, the Federation, and the Caldari State; to declare war on a foreign corporation because they were investing in a neglected region of Federation space seems counterproductive from any point of view, as our esteemed counterparts from Placid Reborn have stated.
For the moment, the Reserve will maintain a neutral stance towards this particular conflict. However, we will be monitoring the situation closely and standing by to intervene should the situation warrant it. Tread lightly, Cyrene. The diplomatic situation between our two nations is tense as it is -- it is in the best interests of both the Federation and the State if the current peace can be maintained. -- CAPT Svetlana Scarlet CAIN Chief of Diplomatic Staff
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Tablaren
Kingdom of Kador Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.15 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Originally by: Verone
Keep working hard guys, hopefully you'll get as good as CAIN and bag a freighter full of your own citizens.
Now that would be golden.
We do intent to do that if you and your corpmates are the only ones in this vessel. Because otherwise we are more likely to stand by the protesters instead of standing against them.
Try harder next time.
Unless of course those protesters want help from Calderi, then you have to start killing people.
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.10.15 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tablaren
Originally by: Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Originally by: Verone
Keep working hard guys, hopefully you'll get as good as CAIN and bag a freighter full of your own citizens.
Now that would be golden.
We do intent to do that if you and your corpmates are the only ones in this vessel. Because otherwise we are more likely to stand by the protesters instead of standing against them.
Try harder next time.
Unless of course those protesters want help from Calderi, then you have to start killing people.
We don't believe in the enforcement of opinions Mr Tablaren. In that case we will stand by as neutrals monitoring the situation.
In case we do get between, it will be for the purpose of saving souls, not mercilessly killing civilians. People have a right to express their opinions (within the limits of the society laws) and should not be punished for that.
------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it. |

John Tanashima
Caldari Ekchuah Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.10.15 14:44:00 -
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Then I must repeat my question, with more force.
What crime other then disrupting the federal customs propaganda (which IS expressing an opinion) did APEX commit?
I have personally observed Inspector Xavier in action, and I can confirm that his thirst for political show is greater than his thirst for justice. Will you start a war for the injured ego of a corrupt officer?
The work done in Placid by Cyrene is admirable, you must have direct knowledge of the duality of Xavier, this brutal turn-around against your former partners hints at hidden and dark motives. Expose your grieves more clearly or be prepared to be considered hostile by more than APEX.
John Tanashima CEO, Contre-Amiral Ekchuah Incorporated |

Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.15 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Originally by: Verone
Keep working hard guys, hopefully you'll get as good as CAIN and bag a freighter full of your own citizens.
Now that would be golden.
We do intent to do that if you and your corpmates are the only ones in this vessel. Because otherwise we are more likely to stand by the protesters instead of standing against them.
Try harder next time.
Your argument is pointless, with little to no form of coherent thought to your statement.
Why would 80 capsuleers even feel the urge to fly in the hold of a freighter?
If you're going to try publically belittle me in some way, at least have the common sense to come up with a reasonable insult or something that remotely relates to the topic at hand. In retrospect, it's probably you who needs to try harder.
Alternatively if you'd like to speak to me in person, feel free to contact me at your discression. Veto Corp are after all, plying our trade in Federation spacelanes quite close to your beloved homeworld and base of operations.
For every badly structured and poor attempt at a jibe Cyrene pilots throw at us, another few hundred Federal Citizens or random travellers are killed for your insolence.
Ironic, satisfying and above all amusing.
Perhaps you can ask your masters to leak some FIO documents that are useful to us sometime too.
Verone laughs to himself as he cuts comms...
>>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
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Crausaum
Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.10.15 16:37:00 -
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To reaffirm our position on this war for those of you asking;
We are engaging in this war because of the APEX Conglomerates part in interfering with a Federal investigation and their prolonging of the RISE crisis. In addition the possibility that they are continuing such operations on other fronts unknown to us causes us great concern. Their previous refusals to stay out of the Placid region after their nature as a military force became clear in the Acheron/APEX war made it clear to us that only the application of force would cause the APEX conglomerate to reevaluate their policies.
As to our public display of classified Federal documents I can only speak personally and say that I care little for the crimes that the Federation administration deigns to hide from its own citizens. I can also say that I am glad that this infraction against the peoples of Placid came to light and that we are able to act on this information, to a limited degree.
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.10.15 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Originally by: Verone
Keep working hard guys, hopefully you'll get as good as CAIN and bag a freighter full of your own citizens.
Now that would be golden.
We do intent to do that if you and your corpmates are the only ones in this vessel. Because otherwise we are more likely to stand by the protesters instead of standing against them.
Try harder next time.
Your argument is pointless, with little to no form of coherent thought to your statement.
Why would 80 capsuleers even feel the urge to fly in the hold of a freighter?
If you're going to try publically belittle me in some way, at least have the common sense to come up with a reasonable insult or something that remotely relates to the topic at hand. In retrospect, it's probably you who needs to try harder.
Alternatively if you'd like to speak to me in person, feel free to contact me at your discression. Veto Corp are after all, plying our trade in Federation spacelanes quite close to your beloved homeworld and base of operations.
For every badly structured and poor attempt at a jibe Cyrene pilots throw at us, another few hundred Federal Citizens or random travellers are killed for your insolence.
Ironic, satisfying and above all amusing.
Perhaps you can ask your masters to leak some FIO documents that are useful to us sometime too.
Verone laughs to himself as he cuts comms...
I am not trying to insult you Verone. Unless you think that the only response to an insult is another insult. You are pirates we are trying to remove you from space, and thus we are not in friendly terms. Nothing more nothing less, insults towards anyone are not helping or showing anything good for the issuer.
------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it. |

Irias Salo
Caldari The Star Wolves Aunni Ti Tsuun Consortium
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Posted - 2007.10.15 17:09:00 -
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Well I see nothing wrong in Crausaum's clarification, as such ATTC shall remain neutral unles formally requested.
Originally by: Ginger. There is no roleplay, there is only EVE
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Naphtalia
The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.10.15 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Mithrantir Ob'lontra
<snip>I am not trying to insult you Verone. <snip> You are pirates we are trying to remove you from space, <snip>
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You are trying what? And failing that you feel that adding APEX to your target list will help your cause?
Recruitment - Guristas Associates
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.15 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mithrantir Ob'lontra
I am not trying to insult you Verone. Unless you think that the only response to an insult is another insult.
My initial response to your post was not an insult, it was simple statement of fact and speculation on the future.
If I was looking to insult you, I'd call you a Federate Whipping boy, a Pawn to a Corrupt Senate, and a moron.
However I'm not looking to insult you, so I won't call you that.
I trust I've clarified my point, Mr Ob'lontra.
>>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
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innot
Minmatar Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.10.15 18:00:00 -
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Good Luck Cyrene Initiative
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