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Phelaen Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas	Posted - 2007.10.15 23:07:00 - [61] Congrats to the Establishment! i had the pleasure of flying with Hera a few times.. all in the drone regions i might add... yes yes its 0.0 well done lads insert sig here
Baxalusx GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.15 23:12:00 - [62] The only reason Hera survived for as long as it did in spite of seeing 0.0 action was because supercapitals were virtually unkillable prior to Rev 2. Much like BoB, its invincibility was taken away in a single patch and subsequently lost extremely quickly. Should these 4 new motherships leave lowsec with any regularity, I have no reason to believe they will fare any better given the Establishment's terrible post-Rev2 track record of supercapital survival. --------- im ghey xD
Davlin Lotze STK Scientific M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.16 00:30:00 - [63] Originally by: Dreznengul Only 4 motherships? really? Get with the times, this is how you camp low sec I'm aroused in IRL by this
Nomispanco Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.16 01:28:00 - [64] Edited by: Nomispanco on 16/10/2007 01:29:31 Originally by: titanstory Edited by: titanstory on 15/10/2007 16:29:25 camping low sec = noob. Gj too :) And Btw who are the new owners of those ships ? Ign0 => Nyx. Seek => Aeon. Tzlayer => Wyvern. And => ? -- Nomispanco --
Mitsuni Abashadoni Minmatar The Prowlers	Posted - 2007.10.16 06:24:00 - [65] Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Mitsuni Abashadoni Originally by: Ivor Gunn Edited by: Ivor Gunn on 15/10/2007 19:08:41 Originally by: Izo Azlion Watch your mouth when your speaking to people that know what they're doing. It might be the internet, and we might be blowing up pixels, but people deserve respect for their achievements. Treat people how you want to be treated. What achievments? They were the first to get the risk-free solopwnmobile and they ***d it extensively. It's hardly an achievment. There's plenty of other PvP corps who did more damage with far less resources. And as for the whole "Are they lowsec camping cowards?" issue. You can decide for yourself. Check Hera's activity from the dictor bubble boost to its death. It engages a sizable 0.0 force only once, and died. Now, they're getting mad props for killing badgers and **tily fitted ravens at a ridiculously slow rate, in ships worth over 100b isk collectively. Hell, if you're still in doubt about their abilities with capital ships, just look at the numbers of them they've lost. They're pretty insane for what, by their own admission, is a very small pvp group. And now, check where they have lost those capitals.. in low-sec? No? Didn't think so.. So you are agreeing with him? No, just pointing out that the says that they use risk-free solopwnmobiles, and only in low-sec, while all their capital losses, at which Hera has mostly been present, are in 0.0 - I'm merely pointing out that Mr. Gunn is wrong and coming off as quite the muppet.
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.10.16 06:52:00 - [66] Originally by: Ventosus ... where? go kill miz if you want a challenge Paradox V2.0 is recruiting!
Nich Barker	Posted - 2007.10.16 10:23:00 - [67] Originally by: Ivor Gunn Originally by: Ange1 Though I do not wish to dissapoint, for the time being you may find us maintaining a relatively low profile and keeping them in low-sec for the time being "Hi guys, we ** up every time we use capitals in 0.0 because we're actually ** and just rely on isk and celebrity. So we'll just smartbomb rancer and aunenen for now." that's ginger magician
Ivor Gunn No One Expects The Spanish Inquisition	Posted - 2007.10.16 19:43:00 - [68] Originally by: Mitsuni Abashadoni I'm merely pointing out that Mr. Gunn is wrong and coming off as quite the muppet. Oh, noez. I'm slitting my wrists, honest. Quote: at which Hera has mostly been present, are in 0.0 Check the dates. Hera was barely, if ever, used in 0.0 after rev 2.0. See if you can work out why. As for their supposedly mythical sub-capital pvp skills? Well. I'm sure the 7 industrials and 2 T1 BS kills they've had this week are testaments to the sheer ferociousness of their abilities.
Ange1 Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.10.16 20:06:00 - [69] Originally by: Ivor Gunn As for their supposedly mythical sub-capital pvp skills? Well. I'm sure the 7 industrials and 2 T1 BS kills they've had this week are testaments to the sheer ferociousness of their abilities. Is this your entire argument for our PvP abilities without Capitals? The Establishment is at your service...
DeMundus The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.10.16 20:25:00 - [70] Originally by: Ivor Gunn As for their supposedly mythical sub-capital pvp skills? Well. I'm sure the 7 industrials and 2 T1 BS kills they've had this week are testaments to the sheer ferociousness of their abilities. Who are you and have I meet you at some point, whats all this hostility comming from you about? Love man, love! -or **** off. Abandon all hope But take care of teh cake!11 - Immy
Bashiri Point-Zero SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.16 20:26:00 - [71] So moms are the new carrier? 2 Years ago carriers was rare and now there like battleships now these days.
Alia's Shagadelic Stationhugging	Posted - 2007.10.16 20:33:00 - [72] Camping in lowsec with MS or several is like CTRL-Q'ing when you see Ibis.
Groox Cult of War	Posted - 2007.10.16 20:46:00 - [73] Edited by: Groox on 16/10/2007 20:46:55 Originally by: Alia's Camping in lowsec with MS or several is like CTRL-Q'ing when you see Ibis. Indeed, sir! I can't belive all that whoo hoo go Est sentiment here in this thread. 1 mom in low sec was 'chikin' in low sec. I wonder what's the word for 4 mom gate camps in low sec.
jarack The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.16 23:11:00 - [74] Congrats to The Establishment on their massive amount of Mother ships a small corporation has built. Hera's loss obviously made you more determined to shock the EVE community as always. First Corp with a Mother Ship, Probably the most feared aswell. Ignore what people say about what you do with them, you've spent alot of ISK and time over this and you deserve to do whatever you want with them. Jealousy is probably a word i would use to name people *****ing about what you do with them. Good luck Establishment. Jar
Murukan Minmatar Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.10.16 23:20:00 - [75] Originally by: Groox Edited by: Groox on 16/10/2007 20:46:55 Originally by: Alia's Camping in lowsec with MS or several is like CTRL-Q'ing when you see Ibis. Indeed, sir! I can't belive all that whoo hoo go Est sentiment here in this thread. 1 mom in low sec was 'chikin' in low sec. I wonder what's the word for 4 mom gate camps in low sec. Shouldn't you be off losing space cause your alliance sucks at pvp? Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.10.16 23:38:00 - [76] Uh-uh a few people in this thread seem to be envious of EST's reputation. =o Btw the trick is to recruit Lataro and make him mine condensed veldpar =p - Gob Stealth bombers work!
Kriger x13	Posted - 2007.10.17 08:18:00 - [77] Originally by: Murukan Shouldn't you be off losing space cause your alliance sucks at pvp? aawwww have a cookie .:: Kriger's gfx Factory :: x13 ::.
Athena Rivera Minmatar Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.10.17 13:22:00 - [78] Ah, nice to see EST back in action after a long period of being dormant. From the scattered remains of Hera brings more ships into the field. One Nyx that survived for more than a year proved that EST can really fight with just one mom. The real challenge here is fielding four motherships and also count in the support to go along with that group. I will surely be hearing of more chaos and carnage from this corp. Bring on the good times. :)
Prydeless Vengeance of the Fallen	Posted - 2007.10.17 18:41:00 - [79] Very nice accomplishment. Good luck to you and have fun! Disclaimer: I am a God.
Baxalusx GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.18 13:37:00 - [80] Edited by: Baxalusx on 18/10/2007 13:37:12 Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Uh-uh a few people in this thread seem to be envious of EST's reputation. =o Btw the trick is to recruit Lataro and make him mine condensed veldpar =p - Gob Yes, the envy coming from all us 0.0 guys is palpable. Are you serious? What you're reading is spite and contempt, not envy. --------- im ghey xD
Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos Insurgency	Posted - 2007.10.18 14:17:00 - [81] Originally by: Baxalusx Edited by: Baxalusx on 18/10/2007 13:37:12 Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Uh-uh a few people in this thread seem to be envious of EST's reputation. =o Btw the trick is to recruit Lataro and make him mine condensed veldpar =p - Gob Yes, the envy coming from all us 0.0 guys is palpable. Are you serious? What you're reading is spite and contempt, not envy. Your sig says all, you are in need of some serius man love!
Necronomicon Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.18 14:34:00 - [82] Good luck Est. Have fun with the new toys. Carlsberg dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
Ange1 Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.10.18 14:41:00 - [83] Edited by: Ange1 on 18/10/2007 14:42:06 Originally by: Baxalusx Are you serious? What you're reading is spite and contempt, not envy. Why though? Its not like we made a big fuss about this little super-cap fleet. There seems to be this perception from some that we must ban ourselves from ever using MS's in low-sec because its 'wrong' and because we do, we're worthy of alot of hate and contempt. Its not like we make a big deal about it. Do you see us starting threads like Tiller and GingerMagician did to say how much we pwn? Do we smack everyone in sight? Compared to many other pirate corps (and the goons), we are quite respectful and polite. We didn't even start this thread! And I think in all this fuss over Motherships, people seem to overlook that only a minority (20%) of all EST kills have had an MS involved. There seems to be this perception we will not fight without an MS, when in reality the vast majority (80%) of our kills are still done the old fashsioned way. I won't comment on whether that makes us 'good' or 'bad' PvP'ers (awaits the next smack post), you will have to decide that for yourselves. At the end of the day, we are Pirates. That we are pirates alone (MS or not) is enough for many to hate us and treat us with contempt I'm sure. We don't abide by the rules and morals of most 0.0 Alliances, we kill, we ransom, we gank and we fight... we do whatever the **** we like to whomever we like because thats how we enjoy the game . To those that do like us at least, I thank you for the kind messages The Establishment is at your service...
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.10.18 14:56:00 - [84] Originally by: Baxalusx Edited by: Baxalusx on 18/10/2007 13:37:12 Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Uh-uh a few people in this thread seem to be envious of EST's reputation. =o Btw the trick is to recruit Lataro and make him mine condensed veldpar =p - Gob Yes, the envy coming from all us 0.0 guys is palpable. Are you serious? What you're reading is spite and contempt, not envy. So are you trying to tell me Est has/has had no activity in 0.0? - Gob Stealth bombers work!
Forty Three Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.10.18 22:44:00 - [85] Awesome guys, good luck out there... oh and Seek, where the hell have you been? we should go for beers again sometime ----------------------------------------------- UNITY!!!
solarwinds The Nine Gates Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.19 01:13:00 - [86] I remember being in ISS trying to take down Hera on one or two occasions, EST knows how to use their goods. Hera is a legend in the game IMO. 4 times the pwnage, now that's going to be hot!
Lianlan Lou Caldari ISK Farmer and Sweatshop INC.	Posted - 2007.10.19 04:39:00 - [87] Originally by: Ivor Gunn Edited by: Ivor Gunn on 15/10/2007 19:08:41 What achievments? They were the first to get the risk-free solopwnmobile and they ***d it extensively. It's hardly an achievment. There's plenty of other PvP corps who did more damage with far less resources. And as for the whole "Are they lowsec camping cowards?" issue. You can decide for yourself. Check Hera's activity from the dictor bubble boost to its death. It engages a sizable 0.0 force only once, and died. Now, they're getting mad props for killing badgers and **tily fitted ravens at a ridiculously slow rate, in ships worth over 100b isk collectively. Hell, if you're still in doubt about their abilities with capital ships, just look at the numbers of them they've lost. They're pretty insane for what, by their own admission, is a very small pvp group. Bitter, Party of one. Your table is ready! Bitter. Party of one. signature goes here
Tbone Caldari Finite Horizon Synchr0nicity	Posted - 2007.10.20 00:43:00 - [88] Congrats my old brothers! ----------------------------------------------- http://http://synchr0nicity.griefwatch.net//Syn
papaPadla Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.20 02:03:00 - [89] Originally by: Ange1 Edited by: Ange1 on 15/10/2007 16:18:22 Originally by: Kieranda and they named their motherships Hera, Artemis, Athena and Aphrodite right? Hera, Freyja, Rhea and Dionysus. That is wrong... you can't have another Hera. Name the bunch after the 4 horseman of the apocalypse or sumthin like that... or just go with some other godesses and stuff... there's too many of them to just redo Hera. -------------------------------------
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.10.20 13:18:00 - [90] Originally by: papaPadla Originally by: Ange1 Edited by: Ange1 on 15/10/2007 16:18:22 Originally by: Kieranda and they named their motherships Hera, Artemis, Athena and Aphrodite right? Hera, Freyja, Rhea and Dionysus. That is wrong... you can't have another Hera. Name the bunch after the 4 horseman of the apocalypse or sumthin like that... or just go with some other godesses and stuff... there's too many of them to just redo Hera. Well her official name at launch was actualy Teleia. The rename to Hera was just more of an honour thing. But yea she wont be the same as the original

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