Chat Channels can be found in the Neocom menu under Social.

We added the button to blink you all to oblivion, but you all outsmarted us once again ...

But, no, the button was not supposed to be removable. The blinking you all seem to love on the other hand was a mistake, and we're fixing that in the next patch; only minimized chat windows will make the button blink. We also recognize that the current design of how chat windows and the neocom play together is not as good as it should be, and we'll be looking into a better solution that takes chat grouping into account as well soon. And I mean soon, as in the actual meaning of that word. We're also making the chat channel entries much more compact which should make people with a high number of channels slightly happier.

I do not recommend removing the chat button as it may require you to reset your Neocom buttons at some point. It will, anyway, not be possible after next patch.

If you do things well, you should be thanked. If you screw up, you should deal with it. I am not going to pretend that I like something just because by doing so I would make someone feel better. Besides that would only do harm to the guy who is behind this crap. He can't get any better if all the junk what comes out from the pipe is welcomed as pure excellence just because there is something new.

Here in finland we're used to tell the truth and spell it out loud. It is efficient and fair, but not always very polite or nice to listen. However it is my opinion and the raw truth only from my point of view. If someone wants to add some flowers and sugar - feel free to. It's not my thing with CCP any more. They have screwed up 10 too many times.

Demotivating? Maybe, but I think it as final wake up call at most. Other teams did great work for the patch (except the naming fiasco), so perhaps it would be wise lift the bar or face the inevitable. Optimals reply about chat button to this thread already revealed that he lives in old CCP world and is ready to bulldoze the road for any awesomeness he comes up with. What I think doesn't mean a *hit.

I still like to rage and consider it as mandatory requirement towards the future of this game as far as my few subscriptions make any difference. At least I have clear opinion and not trying to hide behind beautiful words.

Blinking fracking icons CCP? Two steps forward, one step back.

What frustrates me the most is that it is impossible that it got to general release without anyone ever saying "hey, that's annoying", so somebody must have overruled that thought and said "put it in anyway".

I wish there was a way to make a hammer hit that person in the head every time the icon blinked.

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You should post this in the assembly hall :D

This brings up the window that you get when you click on the speech-bubble icon in a chat window, and is not the button that people are complaining about.


Reset our Neocom buttons? How and where? There is no option for this in the escape menu that doesn't destroy all of our other settings, nor is there an option on the neocom itself. Given how long it takes to fix all of the other things the last several times CCP has nuked our settings during a patch, I'm not willing to even consider that as a viable option.

The appropriate solution here consists of a few small things:

• Add the ability to disable blinking on individual buttons on the neocom. Let us pick which icons we want to blink, and which ones we don't.
• If people want to remove a button because they don't need it, or it annoys them, let them. What's the point of touting a customizable and reconfigurable user interface if it isn't possible to customize and reconfigure it to your liking?
• It doesn't matter what the button is, or whether it should be possible to remove it or not, it should be possible to find it in the E menu and add it back. Case in point, the chat button that has caused this mess in the first place.
• Chat windows - or stacks - should always minimize to the neocom separately from the chat button. Always.

It's worth noting that that chat button has other issues, particularly that people who have a lot of channels open can't even access them all through the button in the first place. The first level of the menu only shows a handful of channels. Then the second level of the menu (via the "n more..." item in the list) only shows some of the remaining channels, the list of which runs off both the top and bottom edges of the client and are inaccessible because you cannot scroll through the list.

Why exactly should we be not allowed to remove the Chat button? You may as well have not bothered making a "Customizable UI" at all if you're going to put arbitrary restrictions on it.

EDIT: Also, can you at least make the "default" new icons the same as the ones that were on the old Neocom (and in the same order)? It would help people get over the transition at least.

After today's patch you can right click the Neocom and select "Reset buttons".

After today's patch you can right click the Neocom and select "Reset buttons".

After today's patch you can right click the Neocom and select "Reset buttons".

Please make the blink work like it used to, blink a bit then stay highlighted after blinking for a couple seconds, then repeat the blink again on the next update :)

After today's patch you can right click the Neocom and select "Reset buttons".

Make the Chat button removeable, it's totally superfluous and it's very anoying!

Why you hate your Customers? Do we really have to petition everything to make you listen? Will you even listen after you read 400.000 petitions of the players concerning this totally idiotic move to make a worthless button non-removeable? Really? Ok.

Chat button should be removable. End of.

I'd also like things like cargo holds to minimise to the bottom of the screen, not to the new Neocom. I find the tabbed method of the old neocom *much* more user friendly.

Please make the blink work like it used to, blink a bit then stay highlighted after blinking for a couple seconds, then repeat the blink again on the next update :)