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Taipion Operations Control United Pod Service 3	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:08:00 - [1] - Quote Do you like the new names? Was it a good step? Was it necessary? Clear HELL NO on all 3 from myself, but what about YOU?!?
Gorki Andropov Kerensky Initiatives 213	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:09:00 - [2] - Quote Did you invent these names (it sounds like you did, and are looking for approval)? No, no and no.
myFORUMalt alts Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 43	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:12:00 - [3] - Quote Gorki Andropov wrote: Did you invent these names (it sounds like you did, and are looking for approval)? No, no and no. Yes i like the new names as now i dont have to check which is a mwd or ab in the name. Its linear and easier to understand. Was it a good step, yes. Was it necessary, no Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Gorki Andropov Kerensky Initiatives 213	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:14:00 - [4] - Quote It was fairly easy to memorise the existing mods - and their indirect naming scheme added something to the game which has now been lost, in the name of CCP's streamlining process.
5n4keyes Sacred Templars RED.OverLord 5	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:16:00 - [5] - Quote It improves the new player experiance, makes eve just that little bit less complicated, only downside, is if you search the damage type of the missile, its alot of scrolling... Overall something we wont care about in a few weeks, much like the font :P
Zagam Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension 475	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:17:00 - [6] - Quote Gorki Andropov wrote: It was fairly easy to memorise the existing mods - and their indirect naming scheme added something to the game which has now been lost, in the name of CCP's streamlining process. I got used to the MWD/AB mods.. but guns are an entirely different issue (both rails and projectiles have a "prototype" meta, but one is meta 3, the other is meta 4). Part of me likes them (easier to remember), but part of me feels for those programming killboards and such... because now everything is broken.
Grey Stormshadow draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 780	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:18:00 - [7] - Quote Renaming missiles was stupid idea. Get
Siiee Recycled Heroes 10	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:23:00 - [8] - Quote I'm not a big fan of them at all. I will dearly miss my bloodclaw missles. The new AB/MWD names are 10 flavors of bland, and they're no less confusing than they were before to boot. Is prototype better than experimental? Improved is "obviously" better than prototype, experimental is probably better than limited. But the whole thing makes just as much sense backwards as it does forwards. A much much better solution to the problem of finding a particular mod or missile is just fixing search. Why does the name of an item have to be the only thing that search can find? Why can't I just type "KIN HAM" and have it understand what I'm trying to find. It wouldn't even be difficult to manually enter the most common terms for things. It doesn't have to work perfectly in every case, just the tiniest bit of intelligence would go a long way to make things easier to find without watering down the richness of the universe.
Taipion Operations Control United Pod Service 4	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:25:00 - [9] - Quote Gorki Andropov wrote: Did you invent these names (it sounds like you did, and are looking for approval)? No, no and no. If I would have done so, I would have killed myself allready! I just didnt want to go in with full hatred from the start. 5n4keyes wrote: It improves the new player experiance, makes eve just that little bit less complicated, only downside, is if you search the damage type of the missile, its alot of scrolling... Overall something we wont care about in a few weeks, much like the font :P HELL NO! **** Names dont do this, and why you think some new player would be unable to do what we all did?! If a new player is that dumb, he wont stay long before gb2wow. Siiee wrote: I'm not a big fan of them at all. I will dearly miss my bloodclaw missles. The new AB/MWD names are 10 flavors of bland, and they're no less confusing than they were before to boot. Is prototype better than experimental? Improved is "obviously" better than prototype, experimental is probably better than limited. But the whole thing makes just as much sense backwards as it does forwards. Just what I thought, and I WILL MISS my dear Scourge Fury! What is wrong with knowing from the name what kind of missile it is?! Now I will mix them all up as they are all the same, what is next?! Same Naming for Ships?!?!**
Zimmy Zeta Battle Force Industries Tactical Invader Syndicate 741	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:31:00 - [10] - Quote so...at least in voicechat Scourge Missiles and Scorch Crystals will never be confused again. ... -.-

Borun Tal Cubicle Warriors from 'merica 32	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:33:00 - [11] - Quote Did we get free blueprints or other free stuff to pacify the whiners over the name change? If not, I don't like them, no. Whatever they are.
Clementina The Scope 52	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:35:00 - [12] - Quote I like the Microwarpdrive and Afterburner renaming, it makes things easier. The missile renaming I do not like, I could always tell by the picture of the missile anyway so the work of telling one damage flavor from another was never difficult.
Florestan Bronstein United Highsec Front The 99 Percent 397	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:39:00 - [13] - Quote will take a little time to get used but I like it. complexity is important for EVE but it should revolve around decisions and trade-offs (imho getting rid off learning skills was an example for bad removal of meaningful complexity) - not around memorizing the names of missiles I don't like the name-clash between "Prototype" meta4 ABs/MWDs and "Prototype" meta3 guns.
Lady Spank Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED 1242	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:39:00 - [14] - Quote It makes no sense to change the names of these modules... noobs still have to learn which level meta the items are and vets have to relearn dumbed down but still obtuse new names for items. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â)
Ottersmacker Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED 40	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:41:00 - [15] - Quote i wanted make purchase of ammunition for my drak, 2000 units caldari navy scourge i typed 'scourge' into market as before this patch nothing is happen then i navigationed through menu to missiles to find out new name of "scourge" (guys it is "trauma") so i typed "trauma" into market search instead of "scourge" i get all missiles in eve??? The Order of the Falcon or Hin +¡slenska f+ílkaor+¦a is a national Order of Iceland
Taipion Operations Control United Pod Service 4	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:45:00 - [16] - Quote ...and dont forget if you want to link an item now ingame, it gives you ALL of that flavour at once! -.- What would have been good names?! Whenever I hear Mjoellnir I will think of torpedos... Scourge instead of Trauma would have been much better, but still, this should be reversed back to how it was! Is there a thread yet where I can sign up to get the old names back? (at least for missiles)
Mr LaForge Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 214	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:47:00 - [17] - Quote Not in favor of the name changes of ANYTHING! I want my missiles and modules back. I Support the Goons!
J3ssica Alba Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 94	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:47:00 - [18] - Quote can i haz my catalyzed cold gas arc jet thrusters back ... please?
Korinne The Partisan Brigade Republic Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:49:00 - [19] - Quote It seems pointless, and in the spirit of reducing the amount of competence, reading, and neural activity required to play the game. That, and how reasonable is it that dozens of companies are releasing so many 'prototype' and 'experimental' products on the market? If they're going to do that, why not just let us strap bottle rockets on the hull and call it an 'experimental thruster'.
Krystal Flores Missions Mining and Mayhem Northern Coalition. 3	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:54:00 - [20] - Quote Taipion wrote: Clear HELL NO on all 3 from myself!! This and the rest of the posts.

Petrus Blackshell Rifterlings 332	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:56:00 - [21] - Quote I am surprised at the amount of butthurt "don't change anything ever" attitudes that are present among the Eve community. If you never change anything, nothing will ever improve. I know that "if it ain't broke don't fix it", but just because it's not broken for you doesn't mean it's not broken. There is only so much HTFU you can toss at newbies before they give up and go do something else, and Eve is badly in need of new blood. Chill, people, and give it a chance. Now, to answer the thread: Taipion wrote: Do you like the new names? Was it a good step? Was it necessary? Clear HELL NO on all 3 from myself, but what about YOU?!? Yep. In my opinion, yes. Depends on your point of view. For vets it's not, but it's one of those little things(tm) that can really bug newbies. Quote: so i typed "trauma" into market search instead of "scourge" i get all missiles in eve??? Try "trauma heavy", or "trauma assault". I, for one, find that far more convenient.
Korinne The Partisan Brigade Republic Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.01.24 16:59:00 - [22] - Quote It's not so much a 'don't change anything' attitude as much as a 'don't change anything for no reason'. The latter seems to be all that CCP does in the present; changing things for the sake of changing things in a way that adds virtually nothing to the game other than headaches, providing the corporate suits with a small amount of 'feeling good because we did something'.
Heo Hyungie Chimaerazz 3	Posted - 2012.01.24 17:01:00 - [23] - Quote By renaming the missles , its now more powerful than eva aye ? Like hybrid ?
Fidelium Mortis Quantum Cats Syndicate 34	Posted - 2012.01.24 17:03:00 - [24] - Quote Could it be of benefit to new players... maybe. Was it really necessary.... probably not. If a simple name change blows your mind... you have other issues to worry about. ICRS - Intergalactic Certified Rocket Surgeon
Berendas Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE 179	Posted - 2012.01.24 17:03:00 - [25] - Quote The changes make sense, and will be good for newer players, but I will miss the old names. Having them memorized was like being in the cool kids club, and added effortless some roleplaying to conversation. Whenever I would refer to a Y-T8, I would always feel like the Stormtrooper from A New Hope; "You see that new BT-16?"
Korinne The Partisan Brigade Republic Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.01.24 17:05:00 - [26] - Quote Since when has eve EVER been about making things easier for new players? Last I checked the learning curve was half the appeal.
Amsterdam Conversations Cheesecake Starshine 85	Posted - 2012.01.24 17:06:00 - [27] - Quote I don't like the renames, but I think they were necessary. Not so much on the MWDs/ABs, but very much on the missiles. All those weird-ass missile names were horrible.
Taipion Operations Control United Pod Service 4	Posted - 2012.01.24 17:11:00 - [28] - Quote Petrus Blackshell wrote: I am surprised at the amount of butthurt [...] Either you did not get the point, or you try to troll, and they say you should not feed the trolls...
Ion Rubix University of Caille Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.01.24 17:13:00 - [29] - Quote What annoys me is the acknowledgement of great suggestions and potential problems in this post, which refers to some really decent points, and then just completely ignoring them! I am all for the principle of being able to tell what a module does from it's name but why do we need to completely remove names that we have come to know and love... why can't we have 10MN Y-S8 Hydrocarbon Afterburners?
Korinne The Partisan Brigade Republic Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.01.24 17:14:00 - [30] - Quote I find that suggestion to be completely reasonable and well articulated; and such suggestions have no place on these forums. Good day sir!



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