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Nofonno
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.10.17 06:40:00 -
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I would like someone from U.S.A. to set me straight hereā Is there no VAT in U.S.A. or do you take your little credit card receipt, calculate your tax and pay it at the end of a fiscal year, perhaps?
However, I must pose this question: why aren't we all paying in ISK (-slenska kronor)? 
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2007.10.17 06:48:00 -
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Edited by: Kuolematon on 17/10/2007 06:47:56 Living in EU, paying in USD .. ah they joy of life! NO MORE RIPPING OF POOR EU PLAYERS, YA HEAR ME CCP! *shakes fist*
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Jevnikar
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Posted - 2007.10.17 07:31:00 -
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Edited by: Jevnikar on 17/10/2007 07:33:58 Sux ccp plz change my subscription to USD :)
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.10.17 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Nofonno I would like someone from U.S.A. to set me straight hereā Is there no VAT in U.S.A. or do you take your little credit card receipt, calculate your tax and pay it at the end of a fiscal year, perhaps?
However, I must pose this question: why aren't we all paying in ISK (-slenska kronor)? 
No, we don't have VAT. It's a silly thing you Euros have added to make purchasing things on the Interweb more complicated and costly.
I used to get It. Then It changed. Now I don't even know what It is.
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Dan Grobag
Caldari Oyster Colors
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Posted - 2007.10.17 08:13:00 -
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With the fall of the US currency the fee should go either up for US or down for EU, VAT or not.
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Major Stallion
Four Rings
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Posted - 2007.10.17 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kayna Eelai actually, if u can buy timecodes in dollars (aka: for LESS money) then all this stupid thing of having different currency is nonsense.
CCP, aren't u islandinc? what currency do you use there? go, charge in that currency and let paypal or VISA handle the exchange rate.
Ironically enough, Icelandic currency is the ISK. ________________________________ High Sec PvP
Originally by: "Wylker" CCP has finally mastered stupidity
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Shevar
Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.10.17 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Nofonno I would like someone from U.S.A. to set me straight hereā Is there no VAT in U.S.A. or do you take your little credit card receipt, calculate your tax and pay it at the end of a fiscal year, perhaps?
However, I must pose this question: why aren't we all paying in ISK (-slenska kronor)? 
It's currently not allowed for states to set a tax on online goods/services.
This bill will expire next year and it's assumed it won't be extended.
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Spenz
Gallente Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.10.17 08:31:00 -
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Stop whining and be glad you aren't paying your subscription in Pound Sterling.
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Curryzia Kinwurry
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Posted - 2007.10.17 09:10:00 -
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Wrangler said if you live in the EU you should pay in Euros, but what if you live in an EU country that doesn't use the Euro? Should we pay in $ then?
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CCP Wrangler

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Posted - 2007.10.17 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Curryzia Kinwurry Wrangler said if you live in the EU you should pay in Euros, but what if you live in an EU country that doesn't use the Euro? Should we pay in $ then?
I live in Sweden, which is a EU country that doesn't use the euro, we still pay VAT here though.
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Entreri Finwe
Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2007.10.17 09:22:00 -
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Originally by: Major Stallion
Originally by: Kayna Eelai actually, if u can buy timecodes in dollars (aka: for LESS money) then all this stupid thing of having different currency is nonsense.
CCP, aren't u islandinc? what currency do you use there? go, charge in that currency and let paypal or VISA handle the exchange rate.
Ironically enough, Icelandic currency is the ISK.
Beacause it's quite hard for VISA and PayPal to work out the exhange rate for cod fish...
Originally by: Spenz Stop whining and be glad you aren't paying your subscription in Pound Sterling.
Or Omani Riyals, that would hurt...
Originally by: jarack I de-synced in my bathroom once, now i have no where to wash my hands 
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Arushia
Nova Labs Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.10.17 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Nofonno I would like someone from U.S.A. to set me straight hereā Is there no VAT in U.S.A. or do you take your little credit card receipt, calculate your tax and pay it at the end of a fiscal year, perhaps?
However, I must pose this question: why aren't we all paying in ISK (-slenska kronor)? 
There is no federal VAT in the US. Localities charge "sales tax" which is similar, but applies only to goods. Services such as EVE aren't taxed.
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Richard Bashir
Gallente Praetorian Guard FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.17 09:53:00 -
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I only recently discovered that GT cards are only about Į11, so I'm switching from auto creditcard to buying the cards and keep 4 euro's (x 2 accounts) a month in my pocket. If I buy a 90 day card the difference is even greater! ------------------------------------------ My signature has been podded... :| The Cake Is A Lie___ |

RaTTuS
BIG Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.10.17 10:12:00 -
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I pay in 12mth blocks via CC
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Ashaz
Mindstar Technology YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.10.17 10:35:00 -
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Edited by: Ashaz on 17/10/2007 10:51:50
Originally by: Elmicker Edited by: Elmicker on 16/10/2007 22:09:37
Originally by: CCP Wrangler If you live in EU you should pay in EUR, if you live outside the EU you should pay in USD
That's a 40% difference in price for europeans. How is that accounted for?
we are 40% cooler 
Altho i would like to pay my 14.95 in SKR instead, since that's the currency here __________________________________ Gallente by birth. Amarr by choice. iDrone |

Jobby
Minmatar UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2007.10.17 11:11:00 -
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Petition it. I'm sure the time you waste with the $2 a month you save will enable you to retire in a few days.
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Turix
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.17 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler I don't know exactly how what currency you pay in is decided, but we can easily change it if you're paying in the wrong currency.
I pay in dollars via GTC's because of this, more hassle for me.
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Doppler Shift
Red 42 Infinite Innovation
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Posted - 2007.10.17 11:35:00 -
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I'm certain CCP calculates their pricing schemes to maximize long-term profitability. A 40% increase in subscription price would probably be met with a significant loss of subscribers, both offsetting any potential recovery in income and devaluing the game as a whole by shrinking the playerbase. While I'd guess that the falling dollar has caused the accountants a fair amount of angst, it looks like they are trying to ride out what may be temporary weakness in a currency. Don't worry, I'm sure they'll raise subscription prices across the board when the time comes... 
What I really have to wonder is, what is the point of a thread like this? I don't see reducing the Euro subscription price as a realistic response to revenue losses from US subscribers, so the only possible outcomes are status quo -- thus no point for the discussion -- or prices to go up in some way (also farfetched as I doubt the business folks are as eager as game devs to look 'responsive' to community whining). Whining tends to attract the kind of attention you might not like: I hope the beancounters don't implement a tracking program by IP address to ensure accounts pay in appropriate currency whether directly for subs or for GTCs.
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J Ripper
Caldari Silent Retaliation
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Posted - 2007.10.17 11:37:00 -
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I`m Gutted, been playing since 05 and have always paid in $
Recently had a small break from eve, now I`m being charged in Euros ( last 2 months )
Can I go back to $$$$$ ? even tho I`m in the UK ?
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CCP Wrangler

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Posted - 2007.10.17 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: J Ripper I`m Gutted, been playing since 05 and have always paid in $
Recently had a small break from eve, now I`m being charged in Euros ( last 2 months )
Can I go back to $$$$$ ? even tho I`m in the UK ?
No, you were supposed to pay in EUR from the beginning, so this would be a correction of that mistake. You can of course go the way some previous posters have said and start using ETC's.
Originally by: Doppler Shift What I really have to wonder is, what is the point of a thread like this? I don't see reducing the Euro subscription price as a realistic response to revenue losses from US subscribers, so the only possible outcomes are status quo -- thus no point for the discussion -- or prices to go up in some way (also farfetched as I doubt the business folks are as eager as game devs to look 'responsive' to community whining). Whining tends to attract the kind of attention you might not like: I hope the beancounters don't implement a tracking program by IP address to ensure accounts pay in appropriate currency whether directly for subs or for GTCs.
Point of it is to let people discuss the price, there's no reason for us to lock it. 
Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang
"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it." |
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Ashraaf
Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.10.17 12:12:00 -
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on the actual currency 1Į <=> 1.42 $ (1,4183 exactly) for a one month it's 21.2$ One Month and an half abo it's a big difference for the European subscriber. I all the game i play before i only see one money to pay ($ or Į) but not difference between 2 subscriber
Yes I use GTC for my account. But not all the player got this opportunity or knew that it's possible or even that's there such a difference.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.17 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler You can of course go the way some previous posters have said and start using ETC's.
You shouldn't really give that advice mate. In some EU countries that may well be illegal.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2007.10.17 12:20:00 -
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Maybe its got something to do with who u bought the accounts off ?
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KhaniKirai
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Posted - 2007.10.17 14:31:00 -
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Edited by: KhaniKirai on 17/10/2007 14:32:44 Its not the job of companies to force how customers have to pay, especially not, if that means they have to pay way more.
Thats basically fraude.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.10.17 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler I live in Sweden, which is a EU country that doesn't use the euro, we still pay VAT here though.
HSftigt, but please I wanna pay in american dollars, alot cheaper :P Was going to buy a t-shirt in the store but since it think I'll have to use EURO there aswell I haven't done it yet..
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Bluefix
Gnu Terror Corps
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: CCP Wrangler You can of course go the way some previous posters have said and start using ETC's.
You shouldn't really give that advice mate. In some EU countries that may well be illegal.
No it's not. You just have to report it and pay the VAT yourself.
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Elmicker
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler Point of it is to let people discuss the price, there's no reason for us to lock it. 
No, the point of it was for you to ask the question directed at you. I've asked it specifically several times before, and been ignored then. Hopefully you won't be so rude this time.
Why do europeans pay 40% more than non-europeans?
Even a simple "We enjoy screwing you for cash" would do me; at least you'd be being honest.
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CCP Wrangler

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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Neth'Rae Was going to buy a t-shirt in the store but since it think I'll have to use EURO there aswell I haven't done it yet..
You pay in USD in the EVE Store.
Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang
"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it." |
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CCP Wrangler

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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Elmicker
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Point of it is to let people discuss the price, there's no reason for us to lock it. 
No, the point of it was for you to ask the question directed at you. I've asked it specifically several times before, and been ignored then. Hopefully you won't be so rude this time.
Why do europeans pay 40% more than non-europeans?
Even a simple "We enjoy screwing you for cash" would do me; at least you'd be being honest.
I believe I answered that in another thread. The main reason we charge more in EUR is the VAT, the reason the difference is so high is that the USD has weakened since the price was set. However, at this time I have not been informed that we plan any price change at this time.
Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang
"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it." |
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Elmicker
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler The main reason we charge more in EUR is the VAT
VAT is 25% maximum... so...
Quote: the reason the difference is so high is that the USD has weakened since the price was set.
In the last six months the USD:EUR exchange rate has varied by a total of 5 cents. Are you saying that the 5 cents per dollar over the last 6 months has resulted in an extra 15% price difference?
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