Originally by: F'nog

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One does not simply log into Jita.

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Originally by: Stakhanov

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Most pirates moved to greener pastures. The few outlaws left in local are usually afk.
I'd say using the Jel agents is worth the small risk now.

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Originally by: Hades Tiger

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Haven been there in a coons age.
Used to get my buttt kicked doing missions in there.
Is it still a location of villiany and thievery?

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Originally by: Strife Phoenix

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Please excuse my poor knowledge of the English language but what does "coon" mean?

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Originally by: Strife Phoenix

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Please excuse my poor knowledge of the English language but what does "coon" mean?

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Originally by: mmm haulers

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racial slur

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Originally by: Arii Smith

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coons age is NOT a racist thing to say, it is just an expression, jeez you guys this why we live in a PC police state because people cannot stand to see words they do not like. Censorship has and will again lead to terrible acts of oppression with your foolish attitudes.

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Originally by: Selbstopfer

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Originally by: Arii Smith

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coons age is NOT a racist thing to say, it is just an expression, jeez you guys this why we live in a PC police state because people cannot stand to see words they do not like. Censorship has and will again lead to terrible acts of oppression with your foolish attitudes.

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And I suppose you think ****** is just an expression as well?

The reason we live in a police state is because ignorant troglodytes like you have been allowed to crawl out of the womb and live, instead of being culled at birth.

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Originally by: MorbidPenguin

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Originally by: Selbstopfer

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Originally by: Arii Smith

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coons age is NOT a racist thing to say, it is just an expression, jeez you guys this why we live in a PC police state because people cannot stand to see words they do not like. Censorship has and will again lead to terrible acts of oppression with your foolish attitudes.

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And I suppose you think ****** is just an expression as well?

The reason we live in a police state is because ignorant troglodytes like you have been allowed to crawl out of the womb and live, instead of being culled at birth.

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You failed to read my post directly above yours.

The phrase "Coon's Age" is NOT related to "coon" as a term for African-American people. "Coon" did not start referring to African American people until 20 years after "Coon's Age" was already in use - at that time an American version of the British "Crow's Age."

It's called "google." Very helpful.

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The more genteel interpretation of the expression 'coon' is that it is an abbreviation of raccoon. The harsher reality is that 'coon' was used, especially in the Southern (slave-owning) states of America, to refer to the African Negroes brought as slaves to America.

My own experience in Australia in the fifties and sixties is that the word 'coon' was used pejoratively to refer to Aboriginal people, especially in the northern parts of Queensland and the Northern Territory. I did not encounter the term in the Kimberley region of north-west Western Australia when I was there in the early 1970s.

A coon's age, I believe, is a misnomer for longevity. Through a combination of severe hard physical labour, poor nutrition, inadequate housing and the emotional and spiritual deprivations of slavery, many African American negroes in the 18th and 19th Century aged prematurely. Even while relatively young, many negroes gave the appearance of advanced old age and were therefore made a byword for longevity.

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A coon's age does indeed mean "a long time". Some etymologists claim that people mistakenly thought that raccoons lived for a very long time, and that is how the phrase arose. One source claims, instead, that the phrase is an alteration of a crow's age, which is supposedly a British phrase, but we have been able to find no evidence of that. We have to suppose that raccoons were thought to live long lives, for whatever reason (historians and animal behaviorists could probably come up with several reasons for this misconception). They do live up to 14 years, which, when compared with other forest animals, might seem a long time.

The phrase first turns up in the written record in 1843. The term coon as an aphetic form of raccoon dates from 1741. By 1832 it was being used as a term for a "frontier rustic person", by 1839 it was used to refer to members of the Whig party (the raccoon was their symbol), and by 1862 we find it used to refer to African Americans. In that sense it is now always considered offensive. However, if you are inclined not to use a coon's age because you think it refers to African Americans and not raccoons, look at the dates and think again.

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coon
short for raccoon, 1742, Amer.Eng. It was the nickname of Whig Party members in U.S. c.1848-60, as the raccoon was the party's symbol. The insulting meaning "black person" (1837) is said to be from Port. barracoos "building constructed to hold slaves for sale." Coon's age is 1843, Amer.Eng., probably an alteration of British a crow's age.

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Dear Straight Dope:

Where does the expression "coon's age" originate? Is it a racial reference or does it actually pertain to raccoons? --LDziurda

SDSTAFF Dex replies:

It actually refers to raccoons. The expression "in a coon's age" dates to the early 1800s, and to the folk belief that raccoons are long-lived. My pal Colibri of the Straight Dope Science Advisory Board says, "References differ, but a wild individual raccoon might live up to 5 to 7 years (average survival being much lower, though, probably 2-3 years), and in captivity they can live up to 14-17 years. So their lifespan is comparable to that of a dog."

In the early 1800s, it's doubtful if anyone knew how long raccoons actually lived, and two to three years in the wild is not really very long. But raccoon fur is hardy and reasonably durable, which might have given rise to the belief of longevity.

Many slang terms use the term "coon" to mean raccoon. Their black eye-mask and nocturnal habits suggest anthropomorphic parallels, so we get the term "coon" meaning to steal or pilfer, for instance. The word also was used in the 1830s to mean a rustic, a country-bumpkin. In 1840, the coon was the figurehead of the Whig Party. (Where are the Whigs now when we need them?)

Unfortunately, many of those negative stereotypes were applied to black people, hence the derogatory term "coon," first used in the 1850s but more commonly heard after 1890. Some etymologists speculate that the term was used because of the raccoon's dark coloring rather than its real or imagined behavior. Whatever the case, the usage is highly offensive today û heck, it was highly offensive back then. For that reason, "in a coon's age" makes many people uncomfortable, notwithstanding its innocent origin. You might try "in a dog's age" or "in donkey's years" (British), which have the same meaning. Or "in a month of Sundays," which avoids animals altogether. Better yet, do us all a favor and come up with an original expression. We haven't had a novel way of saying "for a long time" in a coon's age.

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Originally by: vasco di

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Originally by: Strife Phoenix

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Please excuse my poor knowledge of the English language but what does "coon" mean?

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Its an abbreviation for 'racoon'

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Originally by: Selbstopfer

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The reason we live in a police state is because ignorant troglodytes like you have been allowed to crawl out of the womb and live, instead of being culled at birth.

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Originally by: Admiral Love

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Hmm creating a thread like this is perhaps a little like sitting naked with bleeding balls in a pool of piranhas. I Won't do it again - most of you guys are pretty nasty.

Originally by: Khadur

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Spending alot of time in outland atm 1337

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Originally by: kessah

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Well the first two guys to reply to your post are Pirates living in that area. Can tell you now its rife with pirates.

Theres probably more competition here than anywhere else ive been and most of them use carriers when they take a beating and the prides been hit -sad, but still wont push me to fighting in one

I suggest you stay out.

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Originally by: kessah

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Well the first two guys to reply to your post are Pirates living in that area. Can tell you now its rife with pirates.

Theres probably more competition here than anywhere else ive been and most of them use carriers when they take a beating and the prides been hit -sad, but still wont push me to fighting in one

I suggest you stay out.

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Originally by: F'nog

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One does not simply log into Jita.

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Originally by: Stakhanov

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Originally by: kessah

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Well the first two guys to reply to your post are Pirates living in that area. Can tell you now its rife with pirates.

Theres probably more competition here than anywhere else ive been and most of them use carriers when they take a beating and the prides been hit -sad, but still wont push me to fighting in one

I suggest you stay out.

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Says the guy with "forever pirate" in his sig

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