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Dretzle Omega Caldari Psychedelic Party Stellar Economy Experts	Posted - 2007.10.17 14:18:00 - [1] For all those of you who are stupid enough to play this game with a wireless mouse, or just haven't thought about it yet, switch to a wired mouse, and quickly. This game is mouse based. I need my mouse to target an enemy (unless I had FoF missiles I suppose) and I need my mouse to warp out. So this morning, I was casually going about my business, mining a bit for the half hour I had before work. We've been having some problems with ore flippers in our system a bit lately, so I've been mining to several GSCs I've placed around the belts. Two GSCs filled, rats in two belts taken out. No big deal. I warp to the third belt, ready to fill another GSC, and lo and behold, more rats in this belt as well. I warp in, ready to take out the rats and start mining.... and my wireless mouse ****s. I can't target, I can't release my drones, I can't even just warp out of there. My wireless keyboard and mouse are hooked up to the same system, so the wireless keyboard was out, as well. I tried calling to my corp mates but my keyboard spits out things like "iiiiiiiiii" and "lghop". I'm not about to log off, because the rats have already started shooting at me (and I think I had an agression timer from rats in a previous belt). I log off now, I lose my ship. If I stay on, perhaps my mouse will kick back on or my corp mates can come and help. I'm halfway down on armor (and I'm a shield tanking Caldari) by the time my keyboard works and I can call for help. Too late. I pop before the corp mates can come in. Reboot of the computer fixed the mouse problem, for now. I wonder if it was something stupid like someone upstairs using a cell phone or something. Ah well. I had insurance, and most of the stuff on my ship actually survived. I petitioned it, if only for the principle of the thing. I'll be able to fly my Retriever tonight or tomorrow anyways, so I guess it's a little bit of a moot point. Anyways, it could be my own fault for using a wireless mouse with the game. Live and learn. :) But tonight, I'm fetching out my wired mouse. :D ------------------- 4 8 15 16 23 42 108
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.17 14:21:00 - [2] Wrong forum. Move to the tech forum. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
ImMerely Avessel	Posted - 2007.10.17 14:23:00 - [3] What can I say, your wireless mouse/keyboard sucks.
Dretzle Omega Caldari Psychedelic Party Stellar Economy Experts	Posted - 2007.10.17 14:29:00 - [4] Originally by: Acoco Osiris Wrong forum. Move to the tech forum. Eh, I guess so. I just thought it might be a funny "How I lost my ship" story. :) ------------------- 4 8 15 16 23 42 108
Xilimyth Derlin OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.17 14:37:00 - [5] I can't help but laugh imagining this from the other corp member's side..... It'd be like "Erm, is he drunk O-o?". On a more serious note... how'd your keyboard Die? o-O Please don't tell me the batteries are in the receiver. I mean, I have NEVER had my wireless keyboard batteries die EXCEPT the Logitech MX5000 (which apparently leaves the bluetooth connection up 24/7)
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.17 14:39:00 - [6] Originally by: Dretzle Omega Originally by: Acoco Osiris Wrong forum. Move to the tech forum. Eh, I guess so. I just thought it might be a funny "How I lost my ship" story. :) Well then again you can't manually move threads, and the GMs NEVER visit S&M (as proven by Sc0rphion's continued posting). ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.10.17 14:47:00 - [7] Originally by: ImMerely Avessel What can I say, your wireless mouse/keyboard sucks. Anybody can learn from their own mistakes, wise people learn from the mistakes of others. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI
Dretzle Omega Caldari Psychedelic Party Stellar Economy Experts	Posted - 2007.10.17 14:48:00 - [8] Originally by: Xilimyth Derlin I can't help but laugh imagining this from the other corp member's side..... It'd be like "Erm, is he drunk O-o?". On a more serious note... how'd your keyboard Die? o-O Please don't tell me the batteries are in the receiver. I mean, I have NEVER had my wireless keyboard batteries die EXCEPT the Logitech MX5000 (which apparently leaves the bluetooth connection up 24/7) Heh, if I wasn't clear enough, they were NPC rats. Some Blood Raiders. That's what makes it most frustrating. I could accept if it was Player pirates that wiped me out, cause I'd probably lose to them anyway. ;) I'm just thankful it wasn't in low sec and some player come and pod me, too. No, the batteries didn't die at all. After I restarted my computer the mouse and keyboard was fine again. They somehow lost connection. Anyways, I can live with my keyboard being on wireless and risk dying. The worst that could happen is I won't be able to chat or use shortcuts, but my mouse is my Eve lifeblood. That's getting replaced. :) ------------------- 4 8 15 16 23 42 108
Xilimyth Derlin OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.17 14:50:00 - [9] Originally by: Dretzle Omega No, the batteries didn't die at all. After I restarted my computer the mouse and keyboard was fine again. They somehow lost connection. Anyways, I can live with my keyboard being on wireless and risk dying. The worst that could happen is I won't be able to chat or use shortcuts, but my mouse is my Eve lifeblood. That's getting replaced. :) Time for a Tech2 Wireless mouse ^_^? Eh, personally I went wired too.... Logitech G11 and the G9 mouse (I love the interchangable grips) ^^
Leandro Salazar The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.10.17 14:52:00 - [10] Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 17/10/2007 14:52:47 Originally by: Dretzle Omega I'm not about to log off, because the rats have already started shooting at me (and I think I had an agression timer from rats in a previous belt). I log off now, I lose my ship. You also need to learn game mechanics If you had logged off, you would have emergency-warped and most likely saved your ship. There is no such thing as a harmful aggro timer from pirate NPCs, nor are there scrambling NPCs in highsec. There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones
Flitz Farseeker Gallente InQuest Ascension R i s e	Posted - 2007.10.17 15:01:00 - [11] I used to have an old MS wireless mouse that munched through batteries at a frightening rate and would often run low at inopportune moments. I switched to a Logitech one that charges when docked and has little green lights to warn me if it's getting low and have not had any problems since (touch wood). However, my keyboard is still wired as I see no need for a wireless one, so I could at least have logged off.
Dretzle Omega Caldari Psychedelic Party Stellar Economy Experts	Posted - 2007.10.17 15:19:00 - [12] Originally by: Leandro Salazar Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 17/10/2007 14:52:47 Originally by: Dretzle Omega I'm not about to log off, because the rats have already started shooting at me (and I think I had an agression timer from rats in a previous belt). I log off now, I lose my ship. You also need to learn game mechanics If you had logged off, you would have emergency-warped and most likely saved your ship. There is no such thing as a harmful aggro timer from pirate NPCs, nor are there scrambling NPCs in highsec. So, if I had logged, even after they started shooting at me, my ship would have been fine? Logging off before they started shooting at me would not have been an option. For the beginning of the encounter my keyboard was messed up, too. ------------------- 4 8 15 16 23 42 108
Ekuwy Oizoa	Posted - 2007.10.17 15:46:00 - [13] Originally by: Dretzle Omega Edited by: Dretzle Omega on 17/10/2007 15:31:32 Originally by: Leandro Salazar Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 17/10/2007 14:52:47 Originally by: Dretzle Omega I'm not about to log off, because the rats have already started shooting at me (and I think I had an agression timer from rats in a previous belt). I log off now, I lose my ship. You also need to learn game mechanics If you had logged off, you would have emergency-warped and most likely saved your ship. There is no such thing as a harmful aggro timer from pirate NPCs, nor are there scrambling NPCs in highsec. So, if I had logged, even after they started shooting at me, my ship would have been fine? Logging off before they started shooting at me would not have been an option. For the beginning of the encounter my keyboard was messed up, too. EDIT: If so, at least I'm learning these things on the cheap ships. ^_^ reset button? Or is that wireless aswell on your pc?
Dretzle Omega Caldari Psychedelic Party Stellar Economy Experts	Posted - 2007.10.17 15:53:00 - [14] Originally by: Ekuwy Oizoa reset button? Or is that wireless aswell on your pc? D'oh! ------------------- 4 8 15 16 23 42 108
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.10.17 16:02:00 - [15] I find wireless equipment sucks in general. Paradox V2.0 is recruiting!
Lisento Slaven Amarr BAD ATTITUDES	Posted - 2007.10.17 16:03:00 - [16] As far as I know logging off due to NPC aggro doesn't keep you logged in. Besides...if they weren't scrambling you, you would have warped out from logging off anyways =P --- Put in space whales!
Lin Dei Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2007.10.17 16:26:00 - [17] I have a wireless keyboard and mouse. I always keep a pair of (rechargeable) battries in a drawer next to me. Takes a few seconds to replace them and all is fine. ------------------ If you see me post it's because either: 1) Silly forums made me do it 2) Because I was too lazy to change characters 3) Because I wanted to 4) <insert mod comment here>
Dretzle Omega Caldari Psychedelic Party Stellar Economy Experts	Posted - 2007.10.17 16:28:00 - [18] Originally by: Lin Dei I have a wireless keyboard and mouse. I always keep a pair of (rechargeable) battries in a drawer next to me. Takes a few seconds to replace them and all is fine. If only the problem was the batteries. :S ------------------- 4 8 15 16 23 42 108
Imaos	Posted - 2007.10.17 16:33:00 - [19] From time to time I have troubles with my mouse, but it isn't the mouse's wireless it is the logitech set point software which is needed to enable the third mousebutton and other stuff. Some components of the driver seem to run in userland and not kernel. If I hit a load spike on my system the mouse has a blackout and looses button up events and other fun stuff. Just happens with the logitech set point software active. Works 'fine' without the utility (As 2 button mouse with hard to move wheel). Imaos ------------------------------------------ Originally by: NoNah My friend, this is EVE, as it's a space oriented game, they couldn't have trolls. We have Caldari.
Hyakuchan Earth Federation Space Force	Posted - 2007.10.17 16:47:00 - [20] Wireless keyboards are for neo-bourgeois. Why anyone would want one is beyond me, particularly since it's an easily captured and deciphered signal. If you don't mind broadcasting your passwords to everyone smart enough to intercept them, well, you deserve what you get. As for wireless mice... Newer logitech units definitely run longer on a set of batteries. Still, you should never use a wireless mouse in a game without new batteries close at hand. -------------------------------------------------- FRIGATS Coalition FREGE-Red-IAC-Goon-AAA-Tau-Southerncross "We gonna beat you with frigats."
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2007.10.17 17:18:00 - [21] my old wire mouse is still plugged in, on top of the PC. If my wireless drops i can just grab the old one till the wireless is happy again
Fenderson Finite Horizon Synchr0nicity	Posted - 2007.10.17 17:38:00 - [22] yes, if you had just logged you would have been fine. the extremely stupid thing is that when you have an agro countdown actually displayed on your screen from an NPC, that doesnt affect you when logging off. but when you get agro from a PC it does affect you logging off but does not display on your screen.
Dretzle Omega Caldari Psychedelic Party Stellar Economy Experts	Posted - 2007.10.17 17:51:00 - [23] Originally by: Fenderson yes, if you had just logged you would have been fine. the extremely stupid thing is that when you have an agro countdown actually displayed on your screen from an NPC, that doesnt affect you when logging off. but when you get agro from a PC it does affect you logging off but does not display on your screen. Very lame. Even lamer: These things are not spelled out in the "manual" (a.k.a. guides). Everything having to do with agression timers and what happens to my ship upon logging I've had to hear from other players. ------------------- 4 8 15 16 23 42 108
The Upsetter	Posted - 2007.10.17 17:53:00 - [24] Well, he says patting his trusty lefty logitech lazer mouse, those wireless dongles can be finicky in some respects. Example I plug the wireless dongle into the front usb port on my pc and even tho it is less than 1 foot away, clear line of sight with nothing blocking, the darn thing burps and farts and generally is unusable. Yet I plug the wireless dongle into a usb hub it works perfect, same distance but the hub is away from my pc.
Ris Dnalor Minmatar Union Enterprises	Posted - 2007.10.17 19:55:00 - [25] he's plugging his dongle... -- Talking in Circles is more dizzying than walking in them... Tralala
Arvald Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.10.17 20:06:00 - [26] thats why i love playing on my laptop, if my woreless mouse and keyboard crap out i always got a backup sitting on the desk --------------------------- ALL HAIL TO THE TECHNOVIKING
000Hunter000 Gallente Magners Marauders	Posted - 2007.10.17 20:21:00 - [27] I read the op and just... lolled!!! I've been playing eve for 3.5 years now using a wireless board and mouse nps. Just make sure ur batteries are charged and u always have a spare set handy. CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
Dubious Drewski	Posted - 2007.10.17 20:56:00 - [28] Edited by: Dubious Drewski on 17/10/2007 20:56:25 Wireless, eh? Well real men pvp with Wacoms! Originally by: Slayton Ford a Drake is normally primaried last And that's why I love that homely boat!
Dreaded Drew	Posted - 2007.10.18 03:41:00 - [29] That's creepy dude.
Atius Tirawa Minmatar Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.18 03:49:00 - [30] I went from my wireless mouse to my Razer wired mouse. Wired is better, most people agree, and so do I. Its faster (in almost inhuman degrees however) but more, its more reliable and stable.

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