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chosen1
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.19 07:28:00 -
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Edited by: chosen1 on 19/10/2007 07:29:24 All i want to know is how a dev would fit an Armageddon with T2 Mega Pulse Laser, Scrambler/Web, T2 Tank/T2 Heastsinks. If you didn`t buff it when we keep asking it must be fine ... then show us how would YOU fit that. Oh .... and ye, other races can fit their ship - biggest problems are downgrading from scrable T2 to named T1.(ye i had other races too) I had to put like a lot of Cap Recharging modules to replace my Scrambler/Web simply becouse i can`t seem to have the cpu for those, are we not suposed to be able to fit the pvp basic kit?
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Shevar
Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.10.19 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: chosen1 Edited by: chosen1 on 19/10/2007 07:29:24 All i want to know is how a dev would fit an Armageddon with T2 Mega Pulse Laser, Scrambler/Web, T2 Tank/T2 Heastsinks. If you didn`t buff it when we keep asking it must be fine ... then show us how would YOU fit that. Oh .... and ye, other races can fit their ship - biggest problems are downgrading from scrable T2 to named T1.(ye i had other races too) I had to put like a lot of Cap Recharging modules to replace my Scrambler/Web simply becouse i can`t seem to have the cpu for those, are we not suposed to be able to fit the pvp basic kit?
You can try this fit:
http://aycu34.webshots.com/image/31073/2005703280606559105_rs.jpg
But quite frankly geddon is a horrid solo boat, it's far better to have another ship tackling for you and just focussing on more gank.
--- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.19 08:10:00 -
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It fits okish. If you want full rack of everything t2 on t1 ship, consider using tier3.
(I can't fit full rack of neutrons on domi as well)
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Shevar
Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.10.19 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC It fits okish. If you want full rack of everything t2 on t1 ship, consider using tier3.
(I can't fit full rack of neutrons on domi as well)
This is true, a typhoon can't fit a full rack of high end weapons either (PG issues).
--- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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Eskarina Grimm
Minmatar The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.10.19 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC It fits okish. If you want full rack of everything t2 on t1 ship, consider using tier3.
(I can't fit full rack of neutrons on domi as well)
You are quiet right, but the domi's main weapons system is drones of which it can field a full rack + some reserves. ________________________________________
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Dristra
Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.19 08:19:00 -
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This is bad, i am a avid amarr whiner, and even i think this is over the top, the armageddon just got a cpu buff! It is the best tier 1 gunships if you look at it, good damage, dronebay, cheap, fast, the only amarr ship i think is good actually, the rest is sub-pair.
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Mr Paro
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Posted - 2007.10.19 08:32:00 -
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It's fairly easy, actually.
If you're doing a repper tank (as oppose to a plate/buffer tank), you might have to use dual heavy pulse II, which are not bad you know...
If you're doing a plated buffer tank and gank setup than it is much easier to fit mega pulse II.
In order to preserve cpu I use tech2 equivalent faction hardeners such as dark blood, shadow serp, etc. They are not expensive and you save heaps of cpu. As an armour tanker you are kind of lucky since shield faction stuff tends to cost more, especially invuls. I also use amarr navy reps because I have LP with some amarr corps and I can afford it but tech2 will fit too.
You CAN fit a fairly nice dual large rep tank + dual heavy pulse II and maintain about 800-1000 dps (including drones) depending on skills/implants. It should end up a nice and snug fitting, you can even fit a nos or a neut! |

chosen1
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.19 08:37:00 -
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Edited by: chosen1 on 19/10/2007 08:42:49 Thanks for the setups, will try them when i get home. ( i live in 0.0 so missioning for LP`s is not an option, i might consider faction stuff if it doesn`t make my wallet cry)
I still like Amarr - tho after having a galente character for a long time i must say i understand why people say amarr need to be buffed.
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2007.10.19 08:44:00 -
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It's the way you're fitting it. Plates. EANM. DC II. Heatsinks. Minimal tackling equipment if any. Pulse lasers. It's not a good solo ship.
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Kaleeb
S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.
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Posted - 2007.10.19 09:37:00 -
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7x megapulse II
1x 20k scram (faint) 1x web (fleeting) 1x heavy elec cap booster
3x 1600mm plates 1x dcu II (might be IFA cant remember fitting off hand) 1x EANMII 3x Heatsink II
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chosen1
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.19 09:40:00 -
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Edited by: chosen1 on 19/10/2007 09:40:43 yes ... i`ll just try the abaddon with a solo fit ... and wait for ccp to do something to the amarr ships. Lack of versatility is cool, one way direction is ok ... but you should be allowed to use minimal tackling gear for solo pvp. With no web, my uber weapons can`t track something orbiting me, with no scrable i can`t kill them anyways unless they lag out. And fitting minimal tackling shouldn`t force me to put CPR on 2 slots. I`ll just go with plated setups for pvp then, thank you for the help!
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.10.19 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleeb 7x megapulse II
1x 20k scram (faint) 1x web (fleeting) 1x heavy elec cap booster
3x 1600mm plates 1x dcu II (might be IFA cant remember fitting off hand) 1x EANMII 3x Heatsink II
It probably should be mention that that build only fits with maxed out fitting skills. Without AWU 5, forget it. But of course you can reduce the heavy elec cap booster to a medium electrochemical without damaging the setup (as it barely needs capboosting since it doesn't have a repper of any sort). ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary. |

tEvEy
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.19 09:59:00 -
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Train up your fitting skills and get a implant that have 3% bonus to turret cpu they are cheap.
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Myra2007
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Posted - 2007.10.19 10:10:00 -
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Edited by: Myra2007 on 19/10/2007 10:15:30 7 x MP2
1 x med elec. cap inject 1 x warp disruptor 2 1 x stasis webifier 2
1 x iffa 1 1 x eanm 2 3 x 1600mm RT 3 x hs 2
fits after the recent cpu buff. As mentioned in one of the other posts you can even fit a heavy inject if you have awu 5. You would need something like a Zainou Gypsy KMB-50 (3% cpu) in that case which is very roughly about 15-20mil.
On the other hand i don't think a heavy inject is needed anyway. Have fun with this beautiful ship. 
Edit: Didn't check but with the med inject and the implant you could probably go for a dmg control 2 too which saves you a lot of cash against the best named web/dmg control.
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Viryana
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Posted - 2007.10.19 10:26:00 -
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Armageddon was my favourite ship from day one. And if it has trouble fitting all the biggest guns at the same time as an uber tank, it is with love I spend a little extra of my own personal free time tweaking the setups so they work 
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chosen1
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.19 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: tEvEy Train up your fitting skills and get a implant that have 3% bonus to turret cpu they are cheap.
I have them trained up - AWU5 and engineering skills to 5 too. I don`t have the implant tho, but i`ll take care of that soon.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.19 11:06:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 19/10/2007 11:07:55
Originally by: Eskarina Grimm
Originally by: LUKEC It fits okish. If you want full rack of everything t2 on t1 ship, consider using tier3.
(I can't fit full rack of neutrons on domi as well)
You are quiet right, but the domi's main weapons system is drones of which it can field a full rack + some reserves.
I always tought domi was supposed to be gunboat with drones. I didn't actually see any nosf bonus on it 
(blasterdomi used to be pwn but then hp got buffed and blasters easier on cpu)
Arma with pulses fits good enough for tier 1 bs and works really really good(imo one of most cost effective ships out there and deadly with proper support). You need to invest into some named stuff(<t2 price usually) but in the end it will fit. But flying setups that people post on forums makes it boring imo(*fotm*), figure your own. Also arma got 35tf cpu recently, i love whoever did that.
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mallina
Caldari Core Contingency
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Posted - 2007.10.19 11:37:00 -
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My Geddon
If you're feeling cheapskate you could: Swap Faction EANM with T2 Swap Faction ANP with Best Named Swap T2 Disruptor for Best Named (CPU)
and it would be almost as good, but much cheaper ---
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.10.19 11:49:00 -
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Could always try a T2 co-processor if you're really desperate for CPU. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars. |

CraZyNeZZ
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Posted - 2007.10.19 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Acoco Osiris Could always try a T2 co-processor if you're really desperate for CPU.
nono, u just walked over the line, the link above was a good fitting. co-processors would be such a huge waste on it.
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Benn Helmsman
Caldari Dark Prophecy Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.19 12:31:00 -
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Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Large Armor Repairer II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Sensor Booster II
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II
Fits with a +3% CPU implant (less than 40M), nice gangboat
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Kaleeb
S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.
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Posted - 2007.10.19 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel
Originally by: Kaleeb 7x megapulse II
1x 20k scram (faint) 1x web (fleeting) 1x heavy elec cap booster
3x 1600mm plates 1x dcu II (might be IFA cant remember fitting off hand) 1x EANMII 3x Heatsink II
It probably should be mention that that build only fits with maxed out fitting skills. Without AWU 5, forget it. But of course you can reduce the heavy elec cap booster to a medium electrochemical without damaging the setup (as it barely needs capboosting since it doesn't have a repper of any sort).
Just checked and it was a medium cap booster I have (I dont play much anymore so easy to forget)
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Jesabellita
Amarr The Ministry of Propaganda
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Posted - 2007.10.19 12:51:00 -
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The Armageddon is one of the few good ships we have, not at all worth a whine. If you look, surrounded by dreadnoughts, you will see there is usually an Armageddon in the top ten on a supercap killmail. It is one of the only non-capital ships in the game that can pour out a ****-ton of damage when fitted for it.
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bellator militaris
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Posted - 2007.10.20 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: mallina My Geddon
If you're feeling cheapskate you could: Swap Faction EANM with T2 Swap Faction ANP with Best Named Swap T2 Disruptor for Best Named (CPU)
and it would be almost as good, but much cheaper
Nice Sig. 
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.10.20 07:28:00 -
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Geddon? In trouble?
So that means all the other guys who fly geddons regularly in PvP, and EFT, and my own personal experience in flying this ship (armageddon day) are wrong?
+DHP II's arent bad, if you can stick the megas. +Plated HS setup works wonders, even moreso on the Abaddon if you want to go tier3 +Dont forget the heavy drones! +you can fit web/scram and tackle with mega pulse II's. You just have to make sure you kill the guy fast before you cap out, and/or pray he doesnt have neuts. -
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2007.10.20 07:49:00 -
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Originally by: chosen1 Edited by: chosen1 on 19/10/2007 07:29:24 All i want to know is how a dev would fit an Armageddon with T2 Mega Pulse Laser, Scrambler/Web, T2 Tank/T2 Heastsinks. If you didn`t buff it when we keep asking it must be fine ... then show us how would YOU fit that. Oh .... and ye, other races can fit their ship - biggest problems are downgrading from scrable T2 to named T1.(ye i had other races too) I had to put like a lot of Cap Recharging modules to replace my Scrambler/Web simply becouse i can`t seem to have the cpu for those, are we not suposed to be able to fit the pvp basic kit?
Domination 30km scram: 19 cpu. Stop whining.
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