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Frank Horrigan
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Posted - 2004.02.24 21:45:00 -
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i just watched a m0o video #5 at their site and.. well i was thinking at how much a bs costs.. i think ccp shoud change it so bs's are like 20m and the lvl 2 ones are 25m. i mean it would solve the "OMFG EXPLOIT" problem and involve more people in pvp. i admit i suck because i dont take my 100m apoc into 0.0 inless im witha fleet of trusted friends but thats because it took me since i started eve in september last year to get it. if i ever do pvp its usualy in a bb or some crusier. i simpily cant lose a bs that cost 100m *snip* i know ill get flammed for this but seriously this game would be a lot cooler if we could do pvp without worrying how many months it will take for a new bs, well inless your mine bistot all day. but most people dont and they put their soul into their bs's.
my main point is if bs's were like 20m i would do pvp all the time. i love pvp nothing else like it cept a roller coaster but i would never take my apoc into pvp atm...
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Silverlancer
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Posted - 2004.02.24 21:50:00 -
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i just watched a m0o video #5 at their site and.. well i was thinking at how much a bs costs.. i think ccp shoud change it so bs's are like 20m and the lvl 2 ones are 25m. i mean it would solve the "OMFG EXPLOIT" problem and involve more people in pvp. i admit i suck because i dont take my 100m apoc into 0.0 inless im witha fleet of trusted friends but thats because it took me since i started eve in september last year to get it. if i ever do pvp its usualy in a bb or some crusier. i simpily cant lose a bs that cost 100m *snip* i know ill get flammed for this but seriously this game would be a lot cooler if we could do pvp without worrying how many months it will take for a new bs, well inless your mine bistot all day. but most people dont and they put their soul into their bs's.
my main point is if bs's were like 20m i would do pvp all the time. i love pvp nothing else like it cept a roller coaster but i would never take my apoc into pvp atm...
Agreed. Completely agreed. Battleships are WAY overpriced. The only corporations that can afford to have multiple PvP battleships are the alliances out in 0.0 space camping arkanon roids all day. Everyone should be able to get a battleship if they work hard enough.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.02.24 21:51:00 -
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Battleships is suppose to be rare, not common...
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.24 21:52:00 -
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* Joshua Calvert rubs his eyes in disbelief and disagreement
If you can't afford to lose a battleship, don't fly one.
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Silverlancer
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Posted - 2004.02.24 21:53:00 -
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* Joshua Calvert rubs his eyes in disbelief and disagreement
If you can't afford to lose a battleship, don't fly one.
S i m p l e.
Yup. But battleships shouldn't be reserved for people sitting in 0.0 space camping arkanon all day. Even at 25 million, battleships wouldn't be easy at all to replace!
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Carmen Electra
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Posted - 2004.02.24 22:02:00 -
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You know....this isn't such a bad idea.
I mean, spec wise, the Apoc is mabye 5 or 6 times as good as a thorax. So why does it cost 20 times as much. 
Again, I think there are too many anal players with too much money that will oppose this idea because it will mean players who are not as good as them will be able to get battleships. But the idea isnt that insane *sigh*
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2004.02.24 22:04:00 -
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and i thought that the post about nerfing the map was a low 1....this beats all...
why not just sell shuttles for 1isk, frigs for 100isk, cruisers for 1000isk and the mighty bships for 25k!!!
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.02.24 22:09:00 -
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Lets just make everything free and turn it into Quake with spaceships 
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2004.02.24 22:10:00 -
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lol
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2004.02.24 22:17:00 -
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Battleships are reserved for those in 0.0 space?
It's been 2 weeks and i'm more than half way to getting my battleship, which i've worked for by myself doing agent missions.
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Valeria
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Posted - 2004.02.24 22:17:00 -
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Best post ever.
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Doppleganger
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Posted - 2004.02.24 22:18:00 -
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and i thought that the post about nerfing the map was a low 1....this beats all...
why not just sell shuttles for 1isk, frigs for 100isk, cruisers for 1000isk and the mighty bships for 25k!!!
I like the idea, let me be the 1st to place an order for 400 of those 25k battleships
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Prodigious
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Posted - 2004.02.24 22:20:00 -
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i just dont see myself EVER getting a bs..i mean, i cant play this game 24/7.Additionally there's no other way to get that much cash, except for mining rare ore for a really long time. if there is a quicker way, can someone PLEASE fill me in??
i love this game, but it's really too time consuming and pvping is quite unfeasable with all the experienced players in uber corps and uber bs's..
to sum it up, CCP should really work on making this game more fun during shorter intervals of play time. at this point, if youre not online 3 hours every day, youre nothing. i dunno. just my view of things atm. it's fun nevertheless, but ive been playing sporadically for 2 months and im still a nobody in the world of EVE.
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Galaxion
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Posted - 2004.02.24 22:22:00 -
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People will be asking for titans (when and if they come) to be under 100million. ridiculous.
Yes, battleships should cost less, but they should still be exclusive to the fabuluously wealthy. To buy a bs for 25mill then spend possibly more getting the right setup doesn't seem right.
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.02.24 22:24:00 -
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Edited by: Jebidus Skari on 24/02/2004 22:24:53
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to sum it up, CCP should really work on making this game more fun during shorter intervals of play time.
Why does having a battleship make the game more fun? The most amount of fun I've ever had in this game was zipping about in frigates with MF ages ago.
My absolute favourite ship is my Thorax, it's great fun to fly and fight with. Even a casual gamer can afford that without too much hassle.
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Prodigious
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Posted - 2004.02.24 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: Prodigious on 24/02/2004 22:34:25
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Edited by: Jebidus Skari on 24/02/2004 22:24:53
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to sum it up, CCP should really work on making this game more fun during shorter intervals of play time.
Why does having a battleship make the game more fun? The most amount of fun I've ever had in this game was zipping about in frigates with MF ages ago.
My absolute favourite ship is my Thorax, it's great fun to fly and fight with. Even a casual gamer can afford that without too much hassle.
im talking about pvp. you cant pvp in a kestrel in 0.0. believe me, ive tried.
im getting my second bb now, and i'll attempt to pvp w/ some of my corp mates, but i'll undoubtedly lose it in a day and spend the next 3 killing npc's and reprocessing loot to buy another bb. get what i mean? and no, u cant pvp in a thorax either, unless youre fighting other cruisers...but the majority of people in 0.0 own bs's and will smite u in seconds no matter how cunning u are in your lil cruiser.
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Mallus Kulov
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Posted - 2004.02.24 22:33:00 -
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Scratch your brain on what this would cause. Not only are the filthy rich not only get to stockpile on more bb's but then every other idiot will be running around in bb's. The server is already over cluttered with these ships, and I hope to 'Devs with Insight' that they continue to work on alternatives to the bb disease. The game has got to get around from who has the biggest ****zle to who can operate diverse class of ships with tactics. Here's a shout out to more bb nerfs.  This game needs more diversity and less polarization.
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Hasek
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Posted - 2004.02.24 22:34:00 -
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im in a 4 person corp in empire space and we can afford to build and replace battleships.....
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Prodigious
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Posted - 2004.02.24 22:37:00 -
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im in a 4 person corp in empire space and we can afford to build and replace battleships.....
not all of us like mining/manufacturing day and night, mkay?
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Mimiru
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Posted - 2004.02.24 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: Mimiru on 24/02/2004 22:47:58
it is not difficult to make isk in eve at all. It's a lot like real life, it's not what you know, it's who you know. getting into a good, active corp or just having a group of competent friends in game that will help you makes all the difference. Go with a gang of friends and kill a bunch of npcs and sell or recycle the loot, and split the profits. Have a mining op and completely strip a nowhere system or 2 over the course of a weekend. A group of like 5 people can mine and haul 10x more efficently than 1 person can, and it's also much much more fun.
There is a reason this is a Massively Multiplayer Online Game, you are supposed to do things with other people
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Cabadrin
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Posted - 2004.02.24 23:14:00 -
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WTF! LOWER the cost of battleships? are you nuts! Too many people have them already. They are supposed to be the core of the fleet, not the whole fleet. Geez, go fight in a cruiser if you want real PvP. A good challenge is trying to kill a battleship with Blackbirds and Thoraxes.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.02.24 23:14:00 -
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"my main point is if bs's were like 20m i would do pvp all the time. i love pvp nothing else like it cept a roller coaster but i would never take my apoc into pvp atm..."
... Cruisers are few millions a piece, frigates few hundred k's a piece. Why not pvp all the time in them if you can't afford to do it in battleship?
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Maximus Destructor
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Posted - 2004.02.24 23:21:00 -
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Frank,
Sorry, I disagree with you. Things are priced right. Tons of peeps PvP with BS all the time. Just cus you havent figured out how, doesnt mean we need to change the game. Between insurance and mining its really not difficult at all to replace ships especially if youre in a supportive corp
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Maximus Destructor
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Posted - 2004.02.24 23:22:00 -
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Frank,
Sorry, I disagree with you. Things are priced right. Tons of peeps PvP with BS all the time. Just cus you havent figured out how, doesnt mean we need to change the game. Between insurance and mining its really not difficult at all to replace ships especially if youre in a supportive corp
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Bosie
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Posted - 2004.02.24 23:27:00 -
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I ain't been flying BS` for long but trust me I get more fun flying a Vigil or a Black Bird in PvP.
Yes I live in 0.0 space and that is where the ISK is, but to reduce the cost of Battleships is insane... Christ I bought one Scorp and one Apoc in one day using ISK I hade made in 8 hours Ninja mining with one guy hauling. After doing this myself I can see how the large alliances can afford BS after BS as I can imagine they can rake in one billion+ ISK in weekend with ease.
If anything double/triple the price of a BS as yes everyman and his dog is flying them in deep 0.0. And don't get me started on the current drop in mega prices as that is making BS` ludicrously cheap!
Bosie.
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Frank Horrigan
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Posted - 2004.02.24 23:29:00 -
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well bs's are the fleet... inless you want to target jam everyone with bb's and call that pvp go ahead have TONS of fun doing that...
Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Bhaal
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.02.24 23:54:00 -
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I'm speechless. Truly I am. I was gonna post my feelings on this... But I just can't put it into words.
I'll just say: bad idea.
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Crypt
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Posted - 2004.02.25 00:44:00 -
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I love this...and its the usual garbage over and over, all the pirates berate someone elses idea as bad just because it may infringe on them.
Good job once again MORONS.
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Mimiru
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Posted - 2004.02.25 01:05:00 -
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Edited by: Mimiru on 25/02/2004 01:07:12
or prehaps they berate it because it is a bad idea
and actually it would be better for pirates, more unskilled pilots in bships that will be equipped with mods that the pirates can sell for more compared to what they can get off a cruiser. They would also be able to toll people (when they can, or if they even bother) in bships (higher tolls) more often.
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Bosie
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Posted - 2004.02.25 01:21:00 -
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well bs's are the fleet... inless you want to target jam everyone with bb's and call that pvp go ahead have TONS of fun doing that...
You ever moticed that you can fit 3xheavy launchers and a 250 on a BB? Just gotta keep outta drone range!
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Jayad
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Posted - 2004.02.25 01:26:00 -
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Sorry you feel that way Frank,
I can however (In a very loose way) bring myself to simpathise with your problem. Battleships should not be seen as the only pvp ship worth having, but i think this proves the kind of perception some players may have.
The gameplay is at fault not you.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.02.25 01:36:00 -
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The mapnerfing was a bloody brilliant idea.
As for the battleships, the tier two costs what, 25M or so to replace now with the default insurance covering half, if you're not hardcore PvP it's not even worth insuring as you're likely to make that much money before you lose the ship anyways and throwing the money that cost away on added security... The meek shall payeth the bill.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.25 01:49:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 25/02/2004 01:55:19
Why not? The battleships are the most common ship of the fleets, they are used as frigates. Let's have some PvP fun with them, but make the tech level 2 series of ships so good that two or three frigs can toast them at ease.
Let's relegate techlevel 1 battleships to be mining boats. Let them form their own class of ships, civilian boats with all carebear modules like warp core stabilizers and micro warp drives and abolish them for 'military' vessels.
Thereby the carebear stuff strutters that are not interested in PvP can have their things to play with without ruining everything what inter ship class balancing means.
Then we can start fresh with frigs to be the main ship of the fleet and cruisers & battleships to be capitol units but is to support fleet strike forces.
But the CCP has to fix the lag.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Azamien
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Posted - 2004.02.25 02:27:00 -
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PVP shouldn't be an activity that just happens for the hell of it, either. That would make it Quake-in-space just as much as free ships.
Corps/alliances at war. Pirates. Retribution against pirates. Those are good reasons for PVP.
Just saying "Oh, I want to go kill a player for no reason now" isn't a terribly good reason.
Right now, it's somewhat balanced. Most players have to think real hard about engaging in PVP if they have an expensive ship and don't have the resources to immediately replace it. That's the way it should be.
Leave ship prices where they are. Right now the game has an ok balance between opportunities for non-PVPers and PVPers alike. (Sure, it could be a little better, but for that you'd need to reprogram the brains of idiot griefers that kill just because they can.) If everyone can have the best ship cheaply, then all you'll have is throw-away battles that mean nothing other than another Quake-kid getting off on killing the helpless.
Think anyone would care about those Space Invaders or m0o videos if everyone could stage battles like that? If they were a daily occurance in all parts of space? Nope.
Lowering BS prices is one of the worst... ideas... ever.
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Nootami
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Posted - 2004.02.25 02:27:00 -
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* Joshua Calvert rubs his eyes in disbelief and disagreement
If you can't afford to lose a battleship, don't fly one.
S i m p l e.
Completely agree.
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Torvus Jay
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Posted - 2004.02.25 02:36:00 -
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Very Bad idea.
Go play counter strike please
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.25 02:44:00 -
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We do play Conterstrike, it's fun really. But we miss the whining.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Carmen Electra
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Posted - 2004.02.25 03:02:00 -
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We do play Conterstrike, it's fun really. But we miss the whining.
I bet you use j00lz MetaCheat 4.7.1 
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.25 03:32:00 -
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Are you suggesting we need cheats to kill people? Well, in CS you don't have insta teleport markers or run 12,000 times faster.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Carmen Electra
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Posted - 2004.02.25 03:33:00 -
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Are you suggesting we need cheats to kill people? Well, in CS you don't have insta teleport markers or run 12,000 times faster.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.02.25 03:36:00 -
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We do play Conterstrike, it's fun really. But we miss the whining.
I bet you use j00lz MetaCheat 4.7.1
What are you doing, trying to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt you have the same level of intellect as a person that would marry Dennis Rodman?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.25 03:52:00 -
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Yes, Jash. How does it feel to be fragged by such people?
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.02.25 04:02:00 -
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Yes, Jash. How does it feel to be fragged by such people?
Dunno, Skillz. When I play FPS, I stick with the Rainbow 6 line
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
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Carmen Electra
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Posted - 2004.02.25 04:29:00 -
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Edited by: Carmen Electra on 25/02/2004 04:40:30
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What are you doing, trying to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt you have the same level of intellect as a person that would marry Dennis Rodman?
Carmen is my character, not me. Why are you attacking my intellect, you don't know me. *snipped* by myself to avoid being a troll. But still, you are attacking my character, which is pretty lame
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.02.25 06:20:00 -
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Yes lets ask CCP to lower the cost of ships, or even better eyt lets have it like that, you buy one ship and if you die you get the ship back free of charge.
Come on man, peaple play this game because it is diffirent from other carebear land games where you loose nothing when you die other than your pride.
People who want to make PVP even less exciting go play another god damn game.
I mean whats the point of wars when it means nothing, you can kill your enemy 100 times and he wouldnt even notice it in his wallet.
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Arima Todai
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Posted - 2004.02.25 06:30:00 -
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Quote:
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* Joshua Calvert rubs his eyes in disbelief and disagreement
If you can't afford to lose a battleship, don't fly one.
S i m p l e.
Yup. But battleships shouldn't be reserved for people sitting in 0.0 space camping arkanon all day. Even at 25 million, battleships wouldn't be easy at all to replace!
We at Celes never mine, if fact its frowned upon.. it should be hard to get a BS the first time around, after your first if you cant get into another by doing something other then mining then you need to learn more about the game.
The problem with your idea is that if the price of BS's drop so then do the price of high end minerals which ends up messing up the entire market..
I think the main problem with all of this is that BS's have become the be all end all of ships and no longer/or never did have a specific role in combat(as they should have), they've already started it with castor and sig radius and resolutions but ships need more distinguishable roles, so an experienced frig or cruiser pilot can have as much fun and as much of a role in combat as the next guy.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.02.25 06:40:00 -
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Also on a side note, it is very hard to loose a battleship, in almost all cases it is 100% mistake or by a bug wich results in a ship loss, mistakes are meant to be learned from and bugs should be compensated for.
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Gaiam
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Posted - 2004.02.25 07:53:00 -
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battleships should be 2x what they are now. players who dont belong to a corps who can provide battleships or have the skills themselves to obtain should not have. thats part of the pvp aspect of the game. ccp has basically now lowered the price of them to what you need anyways with default insurance, which sucks in my opinion.
it should be more difficult to obtain battleships not easier. you say if bs were 20m youd do pvp all the time, well im sorta glad not every dude who wants to "blow **** up" has the ability or the drive to keep themselves equipped with the tools.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.02.25 07:58:00 -
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Edited by: Tank CEO on 25/02/2004 07:59:41
You people are spoiled, BS are suppost to be rare, go fight in a cruiser. Well, im spoiled too, I wont fly anything cept for a Raven 
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Soul Reaver
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Posted - 2004.02.25 08:39:00 -
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If you make everything easily acheivable in a game then the game soon dies (Or turns into Quake) and then dies! Whats wrong with working hard to get one? Hell I earnt all my own Battleships and pay for all my replacements when I lose one in combat to!
I dont think ive ever seen our corp wallet over 1 isk ROFL there are only 5 of us afterall. We are very very indepoendant players. Yes we get paid for services ahhemmm nuff said about that matey!!! but when I started and before I joined CUlt I was playing Solo working towards a Battleship. It was a great acheivement when I got one (for me)
RPG's are a bit like the lottery.
You dream about winning it and then when you do you realise that without a core centre to who you are, having everything gets very very boring very very quickly because it has no meaning! RPG are no different. Go for the quick fix and thats all you'll get from the game! A quick fix and then your done :)
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Jav Rendei
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Posted - 2004.02.25 08:49:00 -
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FFS, I swear if ppl keep complaining about this being too hard, or that being too expensive, this game is gonna end up like another Trammelized Ultima Online where death and loss mean ABSOLUTLY NOTHING 
EVE is NOT your average run-of-the-mill MMORPG. There are severe consequences to loss which sets this game aside from the rest. If you don't like those consequences go play something else instead of trying to dumb the game down for the rest of us.
If you can't afford to lose a Battleship, stick to Cruisers. A Cruiser in the hands of someone who knows what he/she's doing can be very effective in combat - especially if you work as a team.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.02.25 08:56:00 -
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Are you suggesting we need cheats to kill people? Well, in CS you don't have insta teleport markers or run 12,000 times faster.
And in CS you don't have unarmed people walking about either transferring their hard earned stuff do we Skillz...
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Aelius
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Posted - 2004.02.25 09:46:00 -
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Admiral Akbar: "It's a trap!!!"
Lando Calrissian: "Hummm... Who cares Admiral?! We can have a new rebel fleet in no time with BS costing 25 Mil  "
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Jequan
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Posted - 2004.02.25 11:04:00 -
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BS are too common allready i say.
Much too common. In PvP everyone flys one.
Coll combat would be: Frigates and cruisers fighting and when a BS enteres combat everyone nearly ****es his pants looking at that enormous ship. As it is now BS are nothing special and really... you can earn one quick.
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Jorlin
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Posted - 2004.02.25 11:17:00 -
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another way to make BS more rare might be to increase the time to build one drastically.
4 hours is way to fast...make it 4 days maybe. then let research for production time have a REAL impact...not like 5 minutes max.
this way in huge and long wars the destruction of a BS might have some effect. wars would have to be better prepared. maybe the profit for shipbuilders would even rise...because there is another factor to count in besides the pure worth of minerals.
but on the other hand....i didn't think about it for long and it wouldn't work because of all the factors and possibilities i didn't count in. ;)
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2004.02.25 11:19:00 -
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I have to say that this is easily the worst suggestion I have heard in a while. Battleships are suppost to be hard to get and I happen to think that they are too easy to get, not to hard.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Nighthawk
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Posted - 2004.02.25 11:32:00 -
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this is a total joke, battleships are the only ship u ever see anymore anyway......
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you cant pvp in a kestrel in 0.0. believe me, ive tried. Quote:
quite frankly that just shows your ignorance, cause i regularly fly frigates pvp in 0.0. sure i die a fair amount, but its not gonna cost me the earth to replace my ship.
the main problem with battleships imo isnt really the cost (its ok as it is, possibly a bit cheap imo) but the fact that for a vast portion of the eve population there appears to be no use for smaller ships, as everyone seems to think bigger is better.
all i can say is roll on the rest of the elite frigs..... hopefully the addition of frigs that are a threat to capital ships might mean we actually start to see balanced fleet composition.
either way, reducing the cost of battleships is just silly.....
-nh
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