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AntonioBanderas	Posted - 2007.10.22 08:57:00 - [31] drake nerf was a joke to shut up stupid whiners. And it worked flawlessly. Corpm8 told me his setup (he' infinitely more skilled than i am, i can only fly them, but he actually flies them) cahnged in ONE way: all he had to do was take down the salvager. That's it. So, yea, drakes are nber. They were, and they still are. And as things are looking, they will bi. GOOD JOB CCP !!!!
Inteh Shuta Acerbus Vindictum Nex Super Vos	Posted - 2007.10.22 09:16:00 - [32] No they're not. Sure it can tank like a turtle on pcp but it doesn't have the dps to be a threat on it's own. Unless ofc its a hamgankdrake but then the tank will be breakable instead.. No winbutton there my friend :)
Chasida	Posted - 2007.10.22 10:22:00 - [33] Originally by: mmm haulers a good drake setup (3 LSE II, invulII, 4 SPR II, 3 purgers) should get you around 230/s regen tank plus resists. theyre by far the best gatecamping ship IMO, all you need is a bit of microing on the invul to keep your cap full up but otherwise you can forget about your tank and just chill until you hear gatefire One problem with that setup; your damage will be pretty subpar... Chasida
AntonioBanderas	Posted - 2007.10.22 15:31:00 - [34] Originally by: Inteh Shuta No they're not. Sure it can tank like a turtle on pcp but it doesn't have the dps to be a threat on it's own. Unless ofc its a hamgankdrake but then the tank will be breakable instead.. No winbutton there my friend :) we were talking about drake's TANK. which is nber.
Orar Ironfist Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:32:00 - [35] Originally by: Wind Ictiva i hate to post this but i took on a drake the other day in my myrm. the guy was 9 months younger than me. and i coulnt break his tank. i had to flee before i ran out of cap injectors those drakes have one serious tank. my dps sucks but still, DAMN. i guess im gonna have to train caldari now Are you freakin serious??!?! In a myrmidon you couldnt break a drakes tank...wth are you fitting t1 blasters with t1 drones?! x6 heavy ions with void and x5 ogre II's and youll *** open a drake like an egg And to the OP: Dont get in a bs till you can properly fit one...bigger doesnt always mean better. "zomg i have bs 1 and can use t1 medium rails im t3h uber if i get in this domi now!!! ph3ar me!!!1 -=YYYAAAAARRRRRRR!!!!!=-** Winning or Losing doesn't matter, as long as the fight itself was good.
slothe Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.10.22 21:10:00 - [36] dominix properly fitted (with blasters) does insane damage and i think can outdamage any other bs (im not a statastician...)
omiNATION Gallente	Posted - 2007.10.22 22:59:00 - [37] Originally by: Orar Ironfist Originally by: Wind Ictiva i hate to post this but i took on a drake the other day in my myrm. the guy was 9 months younger than me. and i coulnt break his tank. i had to flee before i ran out of cap injectors those drakes have one serious tank. my dps sucks but still, DAMN. i guess im gonna have to train caldari now Are you freakin serious??!?! In a myrmidon you couldnt break a drakes tank...wth are you fitting t1 blasters with t1 drones?! x6 heavy ions with void and x5 ogre II's and youll *** open a drake like an egg And to the OP: Dont get in a bs till you can properly fit one...bigger doesnt always mean better. "zomg i have bs 1 and can use t1 medium rails im t3h uber if i get in this domi now!!! ph3ar me!!!1 actually i have battleship 4 and about 16 days away from t2 ogres, medium rails is because that's what i had at the time, didn't have a replacement set, but considering i have t2 mediums, it was really pitiful the amount of damage i was doing to him. in all fairness i had a very suboptimal set of drones and ammo, but based on what i learned, it's not really possible to tank and gank a drake. I was trying to do too many things, EW, tank, and damage, if you read my post, you'd know that. -_- forget it, first **'s and now drakers, god and i thought the myrm people were bad. and no this isn't an omg nerf drake thread, god eve is full of inept trolls EVE, basically an MMORPG with prison rules.
Shiodome Caldari Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.10.23 05:15:00 - [38] Edited by: Shiodome on 23/10/2007 05:17:37 to be fair the drake is damned hard to break 1v1, people saying they'd easily break a drakes tank in a myrm (lol) or domi aren't fighting drake pilots with >10-15mill SP. i'm pretty low SP myself (12mill) and this week managed to hold a 18 man IAC gang for 2 minutes ( Linkage ). 2 minutes doesn't sound a lot, but believe me it is under focused fire (this is without rigs, and not even a full tank setup). even got a kill and yes i know, not a great gang setup, got 'called up' to help at short notice while ratting, we soon got jumped and i decided to agress and draw fire as they piled into the system so my gang could escape and get a headstart... you're not gonna catch people with a 2mins head-start (better losing a t1 BC and get full insurance than 5 HAC's with messed up t2 insurance?). anyway the drake has a beast of a tank, i'd not be too worried about a domi going for it solo, blasters or not (mix of blasters/neuts/drones might be better? have fun with the cap though :D). but neuts DO work vs drake, killing the invuln fields speed things up a lot... for some reason not seeing them used much though except on a Curse? _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
omiNATION Gallente	Posted - 2007.10.23 15:19:00 - [39] Originally by: Shiodome Edited by: Shiodome on 23/10/2007 05:17:37 to be fair the drake is damned hard to break 1v1, people saying they'd easily break a drakes tank in a myrm (lol) or domi aren't fighting drake pilots with >10-15mill SP. i'm pretty low SP myself (12mill) and this week managed to hold a 18 man IAC gang for 2 minutes ( Linkage ). 2 minutes doesn't sound a lot, but believe me it is under focused fire (this is without rigs, and not even a full tank setup). even got a kill and yes i know, not a great gang setup, got 'called up' to help at short notice while ratting, we soon got jumped and i decided to agress and draw fire as they piled into the system so my gang could escape and get a headstart... you're not gonna catch people with a 2mins head-start (better losing a t1 BC and get full insurance than 5 HAC's with messed up t2 insurance?). anyway the drake has a beast of a tank, i'd not be too worried about a domi going for it solo, blasters or not (mix of blasters/neuts/drones might be better? have fun with the cap though :D). but neuts DO work vs drake, killing the invuln fields speed things up a lot... for some reason not seeing them used much though except on a Curse? thanks dude, took a while but finally got the information i wanted. i owe you one. EVE, basically an MMORPG with prison rules.
Aenis Veros Caldari Alphaflight	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:08:00 - [40] Originally by: hellsknights Originally by: Aenis Veros Don't use medium weapons on a domi... Ogre II's + full rack of BS blasters will kill any active drake before it says "eh?". This is true but who in their right mind does not kill the drones from drone boats? Eleminate the drones and the Domi has horrible DPS. I hope that was a bad joke. Domi with full rack of Neutron Blaster II's and Ogre II's pushes 1474dps (with a decent shield tank that tanks around 500dps). That's 1000dps without the drones. Horrible dps, my ass.
Dr Cron Northern Lights Number 5	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:47:00 - [41] Originally by: Aenis Veros Originally by: hellsknights Originally by: Aenis Veros Don't use medium weapons on a domi... Ogre II's + full rack of BS blasters will kill any active drake before it says "eh?". This is true but who in their right mind does not kill the drones from drone boats? Eleminate the drones and the Domi has horrible DPS. I hope that was a bad joke. Domi with full rack of Neutron Blaster II's and Ogre II's pushes 1474dps (with a decent shield tank that tanks around 500dps). That's 1000dps without the drones. Horrible dps, my ass. people should shut up about this before blaster domis become the flavor of the week and then nerfed!
Wind Ictiva Delta Kappa Gamma	Posted - 2007.10.23 20:38:00 - [42] Originally by: Orar Ironfist Are you freakin serious??!?! In a myrmidon you couldnt break a drakes tank...wth are you fitting t1 blasters with t1 drones?! x6 heavy ions with void and x5 ogre II's and youll *** open a drake like an egg jeez man, chill. sit down, have a cup of coffee, relax. why do you think i was loath to post that? i obviously didnt do a very good job. that guy was only a few months old (about 6) and he owned me to answer your question. at the time i had t2 medium drones and scout auto canons. both obviously dealing the wrong kind of damage. also i wasnt fully fitted. still i should have had him but that drake¦s got one serious tank. that guy deserved to kill me. i was just lucky to escape. Originally by:** Admiral Love Hmm creating a thread like this is perhaps a little like sitting naked with bleeding balls in a pool of piranhas. I Won't do it again - most of you guys are pretty nasty.
Dubious Drewski	Posted - 2007.10.24 19:38:00 - [43] Woohoo! I lost my Drake just now, but I did it happy. Inspired by this thread, I omnitanked my Drake, and fitted a smartbomb and went to the nearest 0.4 (Horkkisen). I flew around the belts until, speak of the devil, a Domi jumps me! He opens fire and releases T1 Ogres (aww). I'm tense, because the Domi is known to be pretty uber. But after a few moments of me killing off his Drones one by one with my smartbomb and 7 arbalests, he ransoms me. I was at 91% shields, no lie. I say "No, keep shooting!". A few minutes later, after losing 6 or 7 Ogres, he apologizes (?) and warps off, and I yelp for joy. ('Twas my first real Pvp ever!) I dock and calm down for a bit. Then I undock and warp for the system's only exit. I pass through a gatecamp consisting of him and a buddy, who were flashing a ferocious red! I jump through. After buying some cap charges in the next system, I was feeling confident, so I jumped back into Horkkisen, into the camp, and opened fire! They started calling in buddies, but only 2 more ever showed up. They finally got me with an Astarte, a Domi and a Cane, as far as I can tell. And it took a while! They kept saying in local "Tough Drake", "Is that passive?" and "Get more guys". Best 100mill I ever lost. Originally by: Slayton Ford a Drake is normally primaried last And that's why I love that homely boat!
Sasha Saucer	Posted - 2007.10.25 00:45:00 - [44] Originally by: Dubious Drewski Woohoo! I lost my Drake just now, but I did it happy. Best 100mill I ever lost. You just won EVE, today. You took a chance, had fun and didnt cry about losing your ship. If ever our paths cross, say hello. You have my respect. If only all my corpies were like you, the universe would be more fun :) P.S. Yes I am an alt because my alliance are tight asses about EVE-O forum whoring
Shiodome Caldari Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.10.25 01:01:00 - [45] Edited by: Shiodome on 25/10/2007 01:03:14 Quote: Best 100mill I ever lost. spot on enjoyed reading your post, and know how you felt. it's a rare feeling in this crappy tedious game, but they're the moments that make it worthwhile. edit: btw i hope you learnt the principle rule about flying a drake from this... you can survive a lot, but you can't kill much _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
Dubious Drewski	Posted - 2007.10.25 01:53:00 - [46] Hehe, thanks. I'm not done though. I've got my skills planned out. Gonna get BC 4 and T2 Heavy launchers with faction ammo for next time! Gotta get the cost down. Those Arbalests costed 100 mill alone, so really, That was a 200 mill Drake, hehe. That's alot of missions. I can't afford that. As for dps; I actually hurt the Cane alot, he was into low structure and was warping in and out by the end of the fight. And the Astarte pilot told me afterwards that his ship was out of cap and ready to warp out by the time I was into armour. I indeed noticed his reppers stopped near the end. So all I need is a bit more gank and a bit more tank, and I'll have the ultimate defensive ship! I don't care about kills. My goal right now in Eve is to have a ship that can make a whole gang of attackers cry out in unison "Ok, what the hell is with this Drake?". Yeah. And as for any Domis, if they're at all like the ones that attacked me, well bring it on! Originally by: Slayton Ford a Drake is normally primaried last And that's why I love that homely boat!
Shiodome Caldari Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.10.25 02:24:00 - [47] if i can suggest using 5 ECM drones too instead of 5 light drones. the dps of 5 light drones doesn't make much difference... but the occasional interupption of your opponents target lock makes all the difference (and the drake doesn't have any spare mid slots to fit ECM modules) _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
Dubious Drewski	Posted - 2007.10.25 02:45:00 - [48] Hmm, Good idea. I like how the purpose of this thread was to help a Domi pilot break a Drake's tank and it ended up helping Drake pilots fend off Domis! Originally by: Slayton Ford a Drake is normally primaried last And that's why I love that homely boat!
Shiodome Caldari Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.10.25 03:04:00 - [49] heh, caldari are team players (plus we need all the help we can get ), domi's and gallente in general have it easy enough as it is! _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
Dubious Drewski	Posted - 2007.10.25 03:15:00 - [50] Hey, here's a silly question. Let's say I'm fighting a Domi whose using ONLY Ogres for damage. It wouldn't really be helpful to break his lock with my ecm drones. So is it practical to use light ECM drones against heavy attack drones? (My missiles would be shooting them too, of course) If I break a drone's lock, I think it might just autotarget me back because of my aggression with their owner, but I'm not sure. Does anyone have experience with this? Originally by: Slayton Ford a Drake is normally primaried last And that's why I love that homely boat!
Shiodome Caldari Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.10.25 05:04:00 - [51] drones have a sensor strength so i assume they can be jammed, not 100% sure, i am sure however that it'd be a waste of time... there'd be 5 drones to jam meaning you either rediculously micromanage to get a tiny chance to jam each individual drone (it would be tiny) or just disable 1 of 5 drones leaving the other 4 poking you in the face. it would still make more sense to use the ECM drones on the domi itself. if the domi pilot is recalling his drones as you damage them (and he should be doing if he's awake) then each time he redeploys them he needs a target lock to give his mini-minions the "attack target" command. the drones won't auto-attack you they'll just lazily orbit the domi... afaik the drone AI only auto attacks when something iniates agression against thier owner, each time you shoot doesn't count as a 'new aggression'. bah i ain't explaining it well, maybe someone else will... but imo breaking the opponents targeting lock and interfering with him assigning drones will have more effect than trying to attack the drones themselves with ECM. dunno if anyone else has thoughts on this? as i've not seen much written about it and i'd be interested in alternatives too _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
Dubious Drewski	Posted - 2007.10.25 05:48:00 - [52] No worries, you explained it well. And I agree. And ohhh boy, I know exactly what I'm gonna train for this Drake. Get this: in 25 days, I will be flying a Drake with a 24% stronger tank AND 31% more gank than the one I lost today! AND, it will be 85mill cheaper due to the T2 launchers! I can not wait to get out there again to REALLY show them a stupidly strong Drake! Makes me giddy, almost. Originally by: Slayton Ford a Drake is normally primaried last And that's why I love that homely boat!
Inteh Shuta	Posted - 2007.10.25 08:59:00 - [53] Edited by: Inteh Shuta on 25/10/2007 09:01:43 Originally by: Dubious Drewski No worries, you explained it well. And I agree. And ohhh boy, I know exactly what I'm gonna train for this Drake. Get this: in 25 days, I will be flying a Drake with a 24% stronger tank AND 31% more gank than the one I lost today! AND, it will be 85mill cheaper due to the T2 launchers! I can not wait to get out there again to REALLY show them a stupidly strong Drake! Makes me giddy, almost. Then when that is finished. Get Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II's and load them up with faction or T2 ammo and you got yourself a tough as hell nut to *** which bites back hard. Originally by:** Dubious's sig Originally by: Slayton Ford a Drake is normally primaried last And that's why I love that homely boat! Haha.. thats why my friend always names his Drakes "secondary target" :D Edit.. seriously.. we can't use the word which depicts a rip in a wall or the opening of nuts?!

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