because it is MORE scam DOCK and hero than anything else.

MINING is pve, moon fighting is partly pvp.

there is no challenge in buying ammo. You don't compete with anyone.

Selling ammo is not PvP, it is market mechanics. Lowest buy order goes first, you don't compete in quality.

There is nothing to comprehend. A Toad is a toad. Don't look for superficial in it.

The game has a tutorial that gives you a mining laser and a railgun and tells you to go shoot rocks and red crosses. It teaches you nothing else. It's been that way for 8 years, so are you really surprised that there are people who aren't aware that this is a pvp game?

because it is MORE scam DOCK and hero than anything else.

MINING is pve, moon fighting is partly pvp.

there is no challenge in buying ammo. You don't compete with anyone.

Selling ammo is not PvP, it is market mechanics. Lowest buy order goes first, you don't compete in quality.

There is nothing to comprehend. A Toad is a toad. Don't look for superficial in it.

Ever stepped out of the starter system? Doesn't sound like it. Who do you think you're competing against in the market, other players. Ergo the market is pvp.

Players... and bots that can read numbers and undercut you by 0.01 isk.

Any activity that can be botted like that isn't really PvP imo, and yes trade can be botted.

By the way if anyone can write a bot that does DBRB fleets the entire CFC would literally give you all their real money for it.

Is it now?
Why?

If you think playing the market is the same as the .01 ISK game you have no clue. No clue at all.

because it is MORE scam DOCK and hero than anything else.

MINING is pve, moon fighting is partly pvp.

there is no challenge in buying ammo. You don't compete with anyone.

Selling ammo is not PvP, it is market mechanics. Lowest buy order goes first, you don't compete in quality.

There is nothing to comprehend. A Toad is a toad. Don't look for superficial in it.

So in WoW you chose a PvE server, killed lots of big monsters and felt like a boss.

Eve's different, it's just one PvP server. No matter what you do from buying 1 unit of tritanium to leading a 2000 man fleet it's all rooted in PvP.

This is something you need to accept, sure there are ways of mitigating the chances that someone will turn up and shoot at you but ultimately if you want to lone wolf and do no PvP, go play the X3: The Threat.

This really isn't a troll post, I just don't get why people would sign up to a PvP game (even mining and selling the ore is pvp) and then complain about it.

EVE is just one shard...

What it is its up to everyone.. now go away.. thanks.

I dont care what you think or what the next guy thinks... I play when i want and how i want.
You do the same. That is about that.

Also PvP for "purpose" is different to PvP for "nothing" .. If you cant see it, i am sorry.

So in WoW you chose a PvE server, killed lots of big monsters and felt like a boss.

Eve's different, it's just one PvP server. No matter what you do from buying 1 unit of tritanium to leading a 2000 man fleet it's all rooted in PvP.

This is something you need to accept, sure there are ways of mitigating the chances that someone will turn up and shoot at you but ultimately if you want to lone wolf and do no PvP, go play the X3: The Threat.

This really isn't a troll post, I just don't get why people would sign up to a PvP game (even mining and selling the ore is pvp) and then complain about it.

Yeah, remember that epic cinematic Eve trailer CCP made about how some higsec mission runner who ran the same Angel Extravaganza mission 15 times in an officer fit Golem and made the numbers in his wallet go up? The dramatic ending where he whined in local about the ninja salvager steeling his salvage, and then shot the wrecks so he couldn't get the salvage.

IT WAS SO REAL! I WAS THERE!



Do you have sex for the purposes of procreation or do you have sex because you enjoy the act itself?

THAT'S RIGHT! I just compared PvP to sex. DEAL WITH IT NERDS!

in the other thread people complain about item names and the neocom. Just let them complain about pvp, its the better topic compared to the other stuff you see ;)

I'll use UO as a example, when UO started 15 years ago it took the game world by storm, then the thieves and reds griefed so many player's and so many people quit UO almost went under...so they changed the game and to this day UO has over 2 million active accounts. You can still PVP and itGÇÖs lots of fun but the truth is itGÇÖs a business.

So in WoW you chose a PvE server, killed lots of big monsters and felt like a boss.

Eve's different, it's just one PvP server. No matter what you do from buying 1 unit of tritanium to leading a 2000 man fleet it's all rooted in PvP.

This is something you need to accept, sure there are ways of mitigating the chances that someone will turn up and shoot at you but ultimately if you want to lone wolf and do no PvP, go play the X3: The Threat.

This really isn't a troll post, I just don't get why people would sign up to a PvP game (even mining and selling the ore is pvp) and then complain about it.

PVP is okay...
As long it stays in low/null

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1, eve can be played as lone wolf
2, you can play for ever whith out ever engaging in pvp just doing pve