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Dachtor
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:20:00 -
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Not sure if you are allowed to post such information but just found the carrier nerf has been reported on Digg
http://digg.com/pc_games/EVE_Online_Capital_Ship_Change_Prompts_Community_Revolt
Link for Lazy
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ThisAlt IsUseless
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:21:00 -
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tell me when it will be /.
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:21:00 -
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LMFAO, are you serious?! This is truly ********. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 million SP in Forum Warfare Originally by: CCP Wrangler Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
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ThisAlt IsUseless
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic LMFAO, are you serious?! This is truly ********.
so do you have 6 or 14 accounts?
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JADE DRAG0NESS
Dark Scorpions Fate Weavers
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:24:00 -
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OMG ONE ship type is getting a percieved nerf EvE is DDDOOOMMMMEEEEDDDD.
That was sarcasm BTW.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand |

Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: ThisAlt IsUseless
Originally by: Tarminic LMFAO, are you serious?! This is truly ********.
so do you have 6 or 14 accounts?
47! And all of them will be canceled once this nerf goes through! ---------------- Tarminic - 29 million SP in Forum Warfare Originally by: CCP Wrangler Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
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Yao Shiu
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:26:00 -
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community revolt?
hardly. "reported on digg" ? it's a user driven thing isnt it? that just means a forum reader here is a digg user (or should that be digger? ).
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ThisAlt IsUseless
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: ThisAlt IsUseless
Originally by: Tarminic LMFAO, are you serious?! This is truly ********.
so do you have 6 or 14 accounts?
47! And all of them will be canceled once this nerf goes through!
not 42? 
14/6*18 do it! 
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:29:00 -
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I especially enjoy how they're comparing it to SWG's NGE change. Oh man, this is good stuff.
 ---------------- Tarminic - 29 million SP in Forum Warfare Originally by: CCP Wrangler Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:31:00 -
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but it's not on the test server... omg, why, why are people so dense! ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |

Wizzkidy
Demonic Retribution Pure.
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon but it's not on the test server... omg, why, why are people so dense!
Umm.. it was about an hour ago when I jumped in my carrier.
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XoPhyte
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon but it's not on the test server... omg, why, why are people so dense!
Have you actually been on the test server?
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Icome4u
Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon but it's not on the test server... omg, why, why are people so dense!
Noob.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Wizzkidy
Originally by: MotherMoon but it's not on the test server... omg, why, why are people so dense!
Umm.. it was about an hour ago when I jumped in my carrier.
and at the moment what is the situation? can you launch 5 fighters on a friend and then 5 more on another friend???
or is it that 5 fighters just happen to take away all of your base drone bandwidth? ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |

Crystal Starbreeze
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:43:00 -
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Might not be the exact change mentioned but it is way to similar and coincidental for people to ignore
I stole this image because it was fitting, Sorry!
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: XoPhyte
Originally by: MotherMoon but it's not on the test server... omg, why, why are people so dense!
Have you actually been on the test server?
yes and for some reason carriers only have the drone bandwidth to send out 5 fighters.
what does have to do with the carrier nerf? the carrier nerf was to let you have 10 out but you need to put 5 on a friend. currently on sisi, if you give 5 to a friend you can't use anymore your self, am I wrong?
this is not the carrier nerf, this is the drone bandwidth nerf, a good way to test this is see if you can launch 10 drones. you can? but the nerf said that carriers would not be able to use more than 5 at a time.
yes they are simplar and are leading the the same thing, but it's not the carrier nerf, it's a bad placeholder, they will give us the bandwitsh to use 5 fighter on us and 5 on another ship. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Crystal Starbreeze Might not be the exact change mentioned but it is way to similar and coincidental for people to ignore
... If you take just a bit of time to think about it, and you read the dev reply on the GD forum, you'll see that this is justy a bandwidth issue.
a mom can still launch 10 fighters. because it has the bandwidth for it.
or are they only nerfing carriers!
----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |

XoPhyte
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: XoPhyte
Originally by: MotherMoon but it's not on the test server... omg, why, why are people so dense!
Have you actually been on the test server?
yes and for some reason carriers only have the drone bandwidth to send out 5 fighters.
what does have to do with the carrier nerf? the carrier nerf was to let you have 10 out but you need to put 5 on a friend. currently on sisi, if you give 5 to a friend you can't use anymore your self, am I wrong?
this is not the carrier nerf, this is the drone bandwidth nerf, a good way to test this is see if you can launch 10 drones. you can? but the nerf said that carriers would not be able to use more than 5 at a time.
yes they are simplar and are leading the the same thing, but it's not the carrier nerf, it's a bad placeholder, they will give us the bandwitsh to use 5 fighter on us and 5 on another ship.
Umm no. I cannot even launch more then 5 light drones in my carrier and I have plenty of "bandwidth" left.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: XoPhyte
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: XoPhyte
Originally by: MotherMoon but it's not on the test server... omg, why, why are people so dense!
Have you actually been on the test server?
yes and for some reason carriers only have the drone bandwidth to send out 5 fighters.
what does have to do with the carrier nerf? the carrier nerf was to let you have 10 out but you need to put 5 on a friend. currently on sisi, if you give 5 to a friend you can't use anymore your self, am I wrong?
this is not the carrier nerf, this is the drone bandwidth nerf, a good way to test this is see if you can launch 10 drones. you can? but the nerf said that carriers would not be able to use more than 5 at a time.
yes they are simplar and are leading the the same thing, but it's not the carrier nerf, it's a bad placeholder, they will give us the bandwitsh to use 5 fighter on us and 5 on another ship.
Umm no. I cannot even launch more then 5 light drones in my carrier and I have plenty of "bandwidth" left.
that's not the report on the GD forum. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |

Fswd
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: ThisAlt IsUseless
Originally by: Tarminic LMFAO, are you serious?! This is truly ********.
so do you have 6 or 14 accounts?
47! And all of them will be canceled once this nerf goes through!
Can i have your stuff excluding the carriers? --- Free exotic dancers for mods that mod my sig
*Snip* Please do not discuss moderation in your signature. -Yipsilanti ([email protected]) <-- freebie for you |

XoPhyte
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 23/10/2007 23:50:22 Edited by: MotherMoon on 23/10/2007 23:49:05 Edited by: MotherMoon on 23/10/2007 23:48:31
Originally by: XoPhyte
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: XoPhyte
Originally by: MotherMoon but it's not on the test server... omg, why, why are people so dense!
Have you actually been on the test server?
yes and for some reason carriers only have the drone bandwidth to send out 5 fighters.
what does have to do with the carrier nerf? the carrier nerf was to let you have 10 out but you need to put 5 on a friend. currently on sisi, if you give 5 to a friend you can't use anymore your self, am I wrong?
this is not the carrier nerf, this is the drone bandwidth nerf, a good way to test this is see if you can launch 10 drones. you can? but the nerf said that carriers would not be able to use more than 5 at a time.
yes they are simplar and are leading the the same thing, but it's not the carrier nerf, it's a bad placeholder, they will give us the bandwitsh to use 5 fighter on us and 5 on another ship.
Umm no. I cannot even launch more then 5 light drones in my carrier and I have plenty of "bandwidth" left.
that's not the report on the GD forum. "We are still absorbing feedback and debating what route we want to go with the carrier fixes. We have not yet applied the effect modifiers on the base attributes to the carriers until we know what direction we want to go. The only thing on sisi currently is the base drone bandwidth attribute of all ships."
ok my mate just sent out 10 medium drones..
also thing to state that it doesn't tell you that you can't sne dout more bec uase your using fighters, it says you can't send out more becuase you have 0.0 bandwidth yet.
I understand your freaking out, but that is no reason to start sending up stupid news posts on other sites, don't you see? no one out side of eve cares?
Yep, I was just able to launch 11 lights, only 5 fighters .
It is a pretty big "conicidence" that the bandwidth limits of a carrier and the nerf line up exactly though.
And I don't know what you are talking about posting stuff on other sites or freaking out as I have done neither.
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Fswd
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: ThisAlt IsUseless
Originally by: Tarminic LMFAO, are you serious?! This is truly ********.
so do you have 6 or 14 accounts?
47! And all of them will be canceled once this nerf goes through!
Can i have your stuff excluding the carriers?
Absolutely not! When I leave, everything on my 75 accounts is going with me! ---------------- Tarminic - 29 million SP in Forum Warfare Originally by: CCP Wrangler Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.24 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: XoPhyte
Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 23/10/2007 23:50:22 Edited by: MotherMoon on 23/10/2007 23:49:05 Edited by: MotherMoon on 23/10/2007 23:48:31
Originally by: XoPhyte
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: XoPhyte
Originally by: MotherMoon but it's not on the test server... omg, why, why are people so dense!
Have you actually been on the test server?
yes and for some reason carriers only have the drone bandwidth to send out 5 fighters.
what does have to do with the carrier nerf? the carrier nerf was to let you have 10 out but you need to put 5 on a friend. currently on sisi, if you give 5 to a friend you can't use anymore your self, am I wrong?
this is not the carrier nerf, this is the drone bandwidth nerf, a good way to test this is see if you can launch 10 drones. you can? but the nerf said that carriers would not be able to use more than 5 at a time.
yes they are simplar and are leading the the same thing, but it's not the carrier nerf, it's a bad placeholder, they will give us the bandwitsh to use 5 fighter on us and 5 on another ship.
Umm no. I cannot even launch more then 5 light drones in my carrier and I have plenty of "bandwidth" left.
that's not the report on the GD forum. "We are still absorbing feedback and debating what route we want to go with the carrier fixes. We have not yet applied the effect modifiers on the base attributes to the carriers until we know what direction we want to go. The only thing on sisi currently is the base drone bandwidth attribute of all ships."
ok my mate just sent out 10 medium drones..
also thing to state that it doesn't tell you that you can't sne dout more bec uase your using fighters, it says you can't send out more becuase you have 0.0 bandwidth yet.
I understand your freaking out, but that is no reason to start sending up stupid news posts on other sites, don't you see? no one out side of eve cares?
Yep, I was just able to launch 11 lights, only 5 fighters .
It is a pretty big "conicidence" that the bandwidth limits of a carrier and the nerf line up exactly though.
And I don't know what you are talking about posting stuff on other sites or freaking out as I have done neither.
but were posting in a thread that is about a post on digg :P I didn't say you did it, I meant us, as a community need to chill out.
I still have hope that this change won't go through, and I in no way see the bandwidth as reason to go crazy :P
sorry mate it wasn't directed at you personally.
I just suck at the forums thing. "It is a pretty big "conicidence" that the bandwidth limits of a carrier and the nerf line up exactly though." I have to agree, but what the community is doing seems outragous to me. doesn't it to you?
then again, knowing how fun carriers are I guess I can understand.
personally I think I'm over reacting to the overeaction  ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |

Tarmimic
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Posted - 2007.10.24 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Fswd
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: ThisAlt IsUseless
Originally by: Tarminic LMFAO, are you serious?! This is truly ********.
so do you have 6 or 14 accounts?
47! And all of them will be canceled once this nerf goes through!
Can i have your stuff excluding the carriers?
Absolutely not! When I leave, everything on my 75 accounts is going with me!
Dont make me drag out stories of valley's and strap-ons!
(only post I'll be making nn folks _
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ThisAlt IsUseless
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Posted - 2007.10.24 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Tarmimic
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Fswd
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: ThisAlt IsUseless
Originally by: Tarminic LMFAO, are you serious?! This is truly ********.
so do you have 6 or 14 accounts?
47! And all of them will be canceled once this nerf goes through!
Can i have your stuff excluding the carriers?
Absolutely not! When I leave, everything on my 75 accounts is going with me!
Dont make me drag out stories of valley's and strap-ons!
(only post I'll be making nn folks _
alt of an alt?
whaaaaaaa
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Tula Elrich
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Posted - 2007.10.24 00:12:00 -
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Edited by: Tula Elrich on 24/10/2007 00:12:40 lolz
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Tarnimic
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Posted - 2007.10.24 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: ThisAlt IsUseless
Originally by: Tarmimic
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Fswd
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: ThisAlt IsUseless
Originally by: Tarminic LMFAO, are you serious?! This is truly ********.
so do you have 6 or 14 accounts?
47! And all of them will be canceled once this nerf goes through!
Can i have your stuff excluding the carriers?
Absolutely not! When I leave, everything on my 75 accounts is going with me!
Dont make me drag out stories of valley's and strap-ons!
(only post I'll be making nn folks _
alt of an alt?
whaaaaaaa
OH GOD!!!!! the valley! the valllleeeyyyy!!!!!
nn I'm sleepy too, good to see were still kickin mate :P
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XoPhyte
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.24 00:14:00 -
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Edited by: XoPhyte on 24/10/2007 00:16:30
Originally by: MotherMoon
I just suck at the forums thing. "It is a pretty big "conicidence" that the bandwidth limits of a carrier and the nerf line up exactly though." I have to agree, but what the community is doing seems outragous to me. doesn't it to you?
then again, knowing how fun carriers are I guess I can understand.
personally I think I'm over reacting to the overeaction 
You have to understand why the outrage though tbh.
Follow the timeline.
Basically there was whining about carriers being to powerful in the forums, because carriers were able to kill battleships and cruisers (ignoring the fact that carriers take a year to train and billions in isk, where a battleship takes a few months and only 100 mil in isk and its insurable at a reasonable cost).
Next there was a "will CCP be blackmailed again" thread which talked about CCP caving into younger players that didn't want to invest the same time, effort and isk to get ahead, they basically wanted everything to be on a "level playing field" where nearly all ships were the same.
Then you have this "announcement" in which the developer states that carriers are essentially unkillable and do to much damage.
People are pretty upset and don't believe that a carrier which costs billions should do less DPS then a battleship, and essentially a year of training was for nothing. They also show hundreds of examples via killboard links where carriers are killed DAILY by just a small roaming gang of hacs, battleships etc, without losing a single ship. So not the unkillable ship that the devs talked about.
Next Eris (a ccp developer) accussed the thousands of players that were against the idea that they were biased because they only wanted a simple "I win" button, in which she stated that she had never herself flown a carrier.
This really made a lot of people pretty angry and the posts continued.
Next this "coincidental" change on the test servers takes place which essentially limits a carrier to 5 fighters, making a 2 billion dollar ship do less damage then battlecruisers. It was also shown that with this configuration a 20 billion isk mothership could not kill a single deimos which sell for around 65 mil iirc.
So when you look at the timeline of events you may get a feel for why people are pretty upset. Essentially it "appears" that CCP is ignoring their older players and want to level the playing field where newer players are just as powerful as older players. This is exactly what happened in Starwars Galaxies and shortly thereafter it lost all of it's playerbase.
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.24 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tarmimic
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Fswd
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: ThisAlt IsUseless
Originally by: Tarminic LMFAO, are you serious?! This is truly ********.
so do you have 6 or 14 accounts?
47! And all of them will be canceled once this nerf goes through!
Can i have your stuff excluding the carriers?
Absolutely not! When I leave, everything on my 75 accounts is going with me!
Dont make me drag out stories of valley's and strap-ons!
(only post I'll be making nn folks _
I knew you'd be back! Prepare to DIE!  ---------------- Tarminic - 29 million SP in Forum Warfare Originally by: CCP Wrangler Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
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ThisAlt IsUseless
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Posted - 2007.10.24 00:19:00 -
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page 2!
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