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Ivan Bigun	Posted - 2007.10.24 09:43:00 - [1] With every new addition Amarr get shafted. We have been waiting for years for our 'Oooommppfff' and still NOTHING. The only chnages offered us were Khanid Mk II, a total waste of time for all true Amarr who have specialised in lasers. To add insult to injury, you propose those pieces of **** in Rev 3, the Paladin being the ultimate insult. So as its obvious to anyone with half a brain that you don't give a toss about those who fly Amarr ships, why not just erase them from the game altogether and let people redistribute their skillpoints. Seeing as you have backed down over your Carrier changes, I figure its time you took a long hard look at the Amarr race and come to a decision on just what the point of them is anymore.
Atius Tirawa Minmatar Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.24 09:46:00 - [2] yes its sad, and I hope to hear a lot of upset Amarr players at Fanfest bring it up on the floor. Untill then, train Amarr and make them work - after you have played a race for a few years do you truly appriciate their strengths and weaknesses. -----------
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.10.24 09:47:00 - [3] the ammar have the highest dps in the game. it's true! the problem is armor resistances, without trying you may be tanking for ammar. but pure number wise, and with changeable tracking and optimal range, the ammar are sick dps monsters. anyone that reads any ship profiles will see that the dps is always the highest. and the cap can be hard to keep up. Basically sane ammar people feel that ammar ships need more thermal damage. cargo space. something to make them feel like they have more cap and not less cap becuase the weapons fry it on some ships. all said they still have the highest dps. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room...
Judas Jones Amarr Black Company	Posted - 2007.10.24 09:52:00 - [4] Originally by: MotherMoon the ammar have the highest dps in the game. it's true! the problem is armor resistances, without trying you may be tanking for ammar. but pure number wise, and with changeable tracking and optimal range, the ammar are sick dps monsters. anyone that reads any ship profiles will see that the dps is always the highest. and the cap can be hard to keep up. Basically sane ammar people feel that ammar ships need more thermal damage. cargo space. something to make them feel like they have more cap and not less cap becuase the weapons fry it on some ships. all said they still have the highest dps. ..and the award to the pilot smoking the most **** on the internet today goes to...*
Saint Luka The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.24 09:54:00 - [5] ! I love the Zealot and the Absolution :-( -
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.10.24 09:54:00 - [6] Edited by: MotherMoon on 24/10/2007 09:56:03 Edited by: MotherMoon on 24/10/2007 09:54:02 lol nice, and your going to add what? they don't have the highest dps??? prove it. do you read anything? eve-trubune? EON? WDA poscast? do you read the forums mate? do you remember the devs saying they wanted the ammar to be the cap race? you really can't denie that the ammar have the best dps at range can you??? can you????? If you really can and can't bring facts I'll have to start using math. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room...
Nasair	Posted - 2007.10.24 09:56:00 - [7] I still say the Amarr get the best heavy dictor
Macro Slasher	Posted - 2007.10.24 10:21:00 - [8] Originally by: MotherMoon do you remember the devs saying they wanted the ammar to be the cap race? I have no idea honestly of the actual facts/statistics.. But it took me only couple weeks to get as Caldari into Raven.. And it seemed to me like nothing could bleed that cap down. With relatively tiny skills learned I was passively tanking lvl3 missions and I had so much cap in my disposal that I did not really manage to put a dent into the reservoirs..
LoganFire Quam Singulari	Posted - 2007.10.24 10:22:00 - [9] I agree delete Amarr as they have some of the worst ships within game Pilgrim was awsome till the devs nerf it. At Fanfest some on pod the Devs for me
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.10.24 10:29:00 - [10] Well, I jokingly said we'd get a cap and RoF bonus and we did get a cap and RoF bonus. Worked so well for the Abaddon, why not do it again? (spot the sarcasm) Khanid Mk II is a blast - Damnations are down to about 100 million again as the changes truely fixed it! (spot the sarcasm II) Amarr Mineral Index
Ovno ConSyquence Amarr The Plebians	Posted - 2007.10.24 10:33:00 - [11] Nooo, don't delete me And i actually like loads of the amarr ships, they tank well, they're fun to fly, they're just a bit hard to fit right....
Wizzkidy Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.24 10:35:00 - [12] It's a bit stupid to ask them to delete an entire race. I agree though Amarr always get shafted and I have seen no "ooomph" since it was first said! I also get angry with the lack of responce from CCP on the whole situation, I have been waiting YEARS for something decent to come out of the Amarr race yet I have not seen ANYTHING that has improved the race AT ALL They are the LEAST popular race and it will continue you be that way until the Dev's decide to grow a bit of backbone and make some drastic changes because this is what its all avbout really... the dev's DO NOT have the backbone to make a major change to lasers they worry to much about balance I would rather over power amarr for a couple of months then balance them again JUST to get the race back to where it should be Pre nerf this - pre nerf that....it just doesn't work because once pre-nerfed they always seem to stay that way GROW A BACKBONE CCP AND SORT OUT AMARR
Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.24 10:42:00 - [13] they can't delete amarr! they enjoy laughing at someone and then kicking him in the face too much! Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.10.24 10:43:00 - [14] Originally by: Macro Slasher Originally by: MotherMoon do you remember the devs saying they wanted the ammar to be the cap race? I have no idea honestly of the actual facts/statistics.. But it took me only couple weeks to get as Caldari into Raven.. And it seemed to me like nothing could bleed that cap down. With relatively tiny skills learned I was passively tanking lvl3 missions and I had so much cap in my disposal that I did not really manage to put a dent into the reservoirs.. If your point was you have to train a lot to use ammar, then why didn't you say so? and as far as that goes, try flying mimitar ships. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room...
Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.24 10:46:00 - [15] Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: Macro Slasher Originally by: MotherMoon do you remember the devs saying they wanted the ammar to be the cap race? I have no idea honestly of the actual facts/statistics.. But it took me only couple weeks to get as Caldari into Raven.. And it seemed to me like nothing could bleed that cap down. With relatively tiny skills learned I was passively tanking lvl3 missions and I had so much cap in my disposal that I did not really manage to put a dent into the reservoirs.. If your point was you have to train a lot to use ammar, then why didn't you say so? and as far as that goes, try flying mimitar ships. jut made a minmatar alt, starter skills in a (ok ok pimped) rifter. this is just overpowered! remember i put 15mil in fitting into this rifter out of boredom. Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
Macro Slasher	Posted - 2007.10.24 10:50:00 - [16] Originally by: MotherMoon If your point was you have to train a lot to use ammar, then why didn't you say so? I had no point , I have not been flying Amarr yet with good skills. I know they suck at the beginning, I am running constantly out of cap.
Wizzkidy Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.24 10:53:00 - [17] Originally by: Macro Slasher Originally by: MotherMoon If your point was you have to train a lot to use ammar, then why didn't you say so? I had no point , I have not been flying Amarr yet with good skills. I know they suck at the beginning, I am running constantly out of cap. you will still run out of cap with maxed skill in those areas. it makes no odds
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.10.24 10:55:00 - [18] Originally by: Macro Slasher Originally by: MotherMoon If your point was you have to train a lot to use ammar, then why didn't you say so? I had no point , I have not been flying Amarr yet with good skills. I know they suck at the beginning, I am running constantly out of cap. That won't change much with skills :P Amarr Mineral Index
Horus Dark	Posted - 2007.10.24 10:56:00 - [19] they cant delete amarr then they create a new "worse" race. The majority of people still fly other races. So now when a caldari pilot thinks he could use a lil pvp oomph he looks at amarr and thinks..well ok...i dont have it THAT bad.
Buford Early Wild Talents	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:03:00 - [20] Convert the Amarr race to Jove Only 1 ship in each class but it would be Oooommppfff . Now that food has replaced sex in my life, I can't even get into my own pants. .
Macro Slasher	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:15:00 - [21] You know that shotgun looking larger Concord ship? That would be good oompf
u die Minmatar Sugarcane Technologies	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:18:00 - [22] ...weekly amarr-whine alt-thread... check ________________________________________________
Buford Early Wild Talents	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:22:00 - [23] Originally by: u die ...weekly amarr-whine alt-thread... check Happens every time CCP launch something new. Always makes Amarr start crying again . Now that food has replaced sex in my life, I can't even get into my own pants. .
Minigin Ganja Labs	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:24:00 - [24] The lot of you are fools. Why train something you think is broken? Are you anticipating a buff thats never coming? time to live in the now and start training things you know will be usefull like anyone else. I started as caldari, they arnt a particularly blessed pvp race... what did i do? cry about it and ask for a buff? no i speced in gallente minmatar and soon to be ammar. AND TBFH... ammar is a great race to fly. get off your high horse and use the missile ships. they are insane. MINIGIN! Occasionally posting in "limegreen"
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:42:00 - [25] Originally by: Tharrn Originally by: Macro Slasher Originally by: MotherMoon If your point was you have to train a lot to use ammar, then why didn't you say so? I had no point , I have not been flying Amarr yet with good skills. I know they suck at the beginning, I am running constantly out of cap. That won't change much with skills :P which is why a large cargo bay would help for cap injectors. but that's just me :/ my point was still the ammar are not the cap race :P ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room...
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:53:00 - [26] Well, first off, if amarr get oompf, they get it, i'm happy. If not, i'm still happy. Amarr pilots are amarr pilots because they ARE amarr pilots. It's somewhat like being klingon, it's an honor thing Anyway, i some time ago suggested that amarr get somewhat of a "special" lasers. These being, precision lasers that can target modules and cause HEAT damage(when targetting modules) and possibly offline them. Imagine an amarr alpha strike force coming to a scene, targetting the titans DDD, or taking our some dreadnaught turrets, or even a small fleet of interceptors taking out BS turrets and forcing it to leave. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Hariya	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:55:00 - [27] Edited by: Hariya on 24/10/2007 11:55:22 Originally by: Sheriff Jones Well, first off, if amarr get oompf, they get it, i'm happy. If not, i'm still happy. Amarr pilots are amarr pilots because they ARE amarr pilots. It's somewhat like being klingon, it's an honor thing Anyway, i some time ago suggested that amarr get somewhat of a "special" lasers. These being, precision lasers that can target modules and cause HEAT damage(when targetting modules) and possibly offline them. Imagine an amarr alpha strike force coming to a scene, targetting the titans DDD, or taking our some dreadnaught turrets, or even a small fleet of interceptors taking out BS turrets and forcing it to leave. Captain, I am detecting huge amounts of win in this sector!
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Hooligans Of War Insurgency	Posted - 2007.10.24 12:15:00 - [28] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Anyway, i some time ago suggested that amarr get somewhat of a "special" lasers. These being, precision lasers that can target modules and cause HEAT damage(when targetting modules) and possibly offline them. There already are some "special" lasers for Amarr to use - mining lasers. Asteroids can't tank them at all. Jita fix: The distributed market hub
Rilder Caldari THC LTD Dogs of War.	Posted - 2007.10.24 12:35:00 - [29] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Well, first off, if amarr get oompf, they get it, i'm happy. If not, i'm still happy. Amarr pilots are amarr pilots because they ARE amarr pilots. It's somewhat like being klingon, it's an honor thing Qua'Pla Sheriff! (Qua'pla is probably a klingon insult but eh I'm not the trekky I used to be.) --
Sean Hernandez	Posted - 2007.10.24 12:47:00 - [30] Originally by: Buford Early Originally by: u die ...weekly amarr-whine alt-thread... check Happens every time CCP launch something new. Always makes Amarr start crying again reminds me of the English and their "national" sports. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Amar Kosiris	Posted - 2007.10.24 13:02:00 - [31] Yes ... delete Amarr, The slaves will be free and Amarr Prime will become New Matar
Motokko Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.24 13:06:00 - [32] I concur. Delete all Amarr pilots and replace them with drone specced Gallente pilots
Liam Liam	Posted - 2007.10.24 13:28:00 - [33] Amarr isn't getting a boost. Let's face it if it was gonna happen it would've by now. Well in the long run it won't matter the devs new plan is...their just gonna nerf everyone so their as bad as amarr. ( Except for nanoed ships .. lets face it they can't have a need for speed then nerf it ...well not for at least a year : )
Mad Mackem E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.10.24 13:39:00 - [34] As an Amarr trained pilot with 16million gunery skillpoints in laser's, just ignore Khanid ships and fly Viziam ships. Forget Battleships and frigs and fly the great Amarr crusiers. Regards
Christari Zuborov Amarr Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.24 14:28:00 - [35] When I first started this game, about 4 months in I had asked a couple of pointed questions in the Help channel. This was before I came into the forums, as I would have received a real education on the subject. I had asked, "Why does it look like the Amarr race is kind of fubar'd on their ships? All of the other races have natural resistances to EM, but I don't have near as much natural resistances to their main damage types." The replies I received were, "Train something else..." Foolishly I ignored that advice and a year later I find myself forced to do exactly that.
Koryvarn Amarr Liberty Rogues	Posted - 2007.10.24 14:55:00 - [36] Just introduce Khanid MK2 T1 ships. Armor tanking missile spewing Maller? Missile spewing Punisher? Missile spewing Apoc? No one fits lasers on those boats if they have the skills to fit other things. It would fix the damn cap issue we have... and since I fly a Raven for missioning, I have the missile skills already. It's highly ironic that the successful Amarr ships are the ones that don't use lasers, with the exception of the Geddon, which has the only 2 complimentary bonuses - cap reduction and rof increase.
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2007.10.24 15:03:00 - [37] If there isnt any help done for the Apocalypse come Trinity 2, Amarr is FUBAR-ed for life. As it stands, Amarr do need help, but not as drastic as people say it is (except the Apocalypse, ever since the Abaddon got onto the scene the Apoc just became "lulz" material). Small tweak, CCP, thats all we're asking for the ENTIRE ship range, small tweak. - Odd Pod Out, a blog of EVE Online
Armoured C Gallente Deviance Inc DeStInY.	Posted - 2007.10.24 15:20:00 - [38] how can amarr not be popular all i see in low sec is amarr abaddons >_> yeah they are nice ships but every time i jump through a gate i see them and wasnt the avatar the first titan to be built ? they have a very good DPS just be lucky your not on the end of the drone nerf least you have lasers by the end i doubt i will have any drone to use :'( just feel lucky you have slaves to wipe your tears up
Valator Uel Caldari Pax Minor Asylum Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.10.24 15:54:00 - [39] Don't delete the Amarr race, it'll make all my amarr specialisation skills useless... ... oh wait ... -----------------------------------------------------
Arnold Duncan	Posted - 2007.10.24 15:59:00 - [40] Well... i would accept a SP conversion even to caldari or minmatar... it has not necessary to be Gallente. You know, just to play the game.
Butzewutze	Posted - 2007.10.24 16:03:00 - [41] /Signed Delete Amarr from the game and let me reassign my skillpoints.
Butzewutze	Posted - 2007.10.24 16:04:00 - [42] /Signed Delete Amarr from the game and let me reassign my skillpoints.
Dubious Drewski	Posted - 2007.10.24 16:28:00 - [43] The people are agreeing to the deletion of an entire race? What comes next, the invasion of Poland? Originally by: Slayton Ford a Drake is normally primaried last And that's why I love that homely boat!
Sadayiel Caldari Dragon Highlords THE R0NIN	Posted - 2007.10.24 16:33:00 - [44] Bah stop whinning i know plenty of ammar pilots, that are true pvp monster in ammar ships, the only fact you may lack skills or experience it's another issue. and if you are an skilled and experienced ammar pvper, i and still believe that well... WTF did you trained such way for ?
Jenna Shame	Posted - 2007.10.24 16:38:00 - [45] As an extremely heavily drone specced player. I feel really no sympathy, I'm thinking of moving on myself.
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.10.24 16:39:00 - [46] I only trust people who can spell Amarr to have an educated opinion :P Honestly: Look at the stats of that first economy devblog. What do you think why so few people fly Amarr? Because the ships are doing so well? Amarr Mineral Index
Jack Target Koshaku Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.24 16:55:00 - [47] I've never flown Amarr, but I get the impression they are 'glass cannons'. It's probably easy to be envious of Minmatar (that's what I fly) because they can go fast, and this is overt. However, it takes me ages to get the skills. Surely, it can't take as long to train Amarr?
UGWidowmaker Caldari The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.10.24 17:52:00 - [48] amarr race sucks... however i agree in the fact that the amarr race has hounour, somehting the other races cant say, an amarr die with hounour. but look at the minmitars with speed and stuff. why do u think they have that speed??? its because they are week... WEEK.. they need to run away... ccp nerf amarr... and get an emperor in! OMFG I am the widowmaker stay tuned.
Kasak Black The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.10.24 18:02:00 - [49] Well I cant say I advocate the deletion of the Amarrian race, as my entire skill points are 100% on Amarr ships, weapons and modules. But something needs to be done. I can't use those damn Khandai things or however you spell it. The idea of cross training sickens me. Just make my lasers effective.
Claude Leon Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.10.24 22:17:00 - [50] Originally by: Minigin The lot of you are fools. Why train something you think is broken? Are you anticipating a buff thats never coming? time to live in the now and start training things you know will be usefull like anyone else. I started as caldari, they arnt a particularly blessed pvp race... what did i do? cry about it and ask for a buff? no i speced in gallente minmatar and soon to be ammar. AND TBFH... ammar is a great race to fly. get off your high horse and use the missile ships. they are insane. The force is weak with this one. Just for the sake of argument. Maybe it's because people don't want to train another race. I choose Gallente and I will only fly Gallente ships. I can only assume others feel the same way in regards to their race choice. Now about that high horse. I think it's time you get off of yours.
MOTOK0	Posted - 2007.10.24 22:29:00 - [51] Nerf/Buff Cycle. If you hold on long enough Amarr will be the most overpowered race. They kicked arse once and the time will come again at some point. A bit like the second coming of jesus only with screaming and tears and whine threads.
Paulo Damarr	Posted - 2007.10.24 23:01:00 - [52] ty for the new sig Originally by: MOTOK0 A bit like the second coming of jesus only with screaming and tears and whine threads.
Plaetean Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.10.24 23:03:00 - [53] stop ******* crying you losers -----
Tortilla Smasher SpearMint Rhino GentleMen's Club Carpe Diem.	Posted - 2007.10.24 23:13:00 - [54] Sooooo cap is our bane, therefore we need to kill ppl b4 we run out. Pretty sure that concept alone should justify a dps boost.
Saint Schala Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.10.24 23:32:00 - [55] i can, over 2 accounts, fly almost every ship in the game (bar capitals, caldari and minmater CS and the new ships) and i have to admit i do love some of the amarr ships. lets look at the plus points, on say for EG, the zealot. dosent have to re-load, has nice tank, has very good dps, has good speed, has awsome range (from 0.5-120km with good skils and beam lasers. this range can be changed almost instantly as ammo changes takes seconds. Has a nice cap. looks nice(still a plus) so not bad at all. for those who cant fly hacs the omen is a nice substitute. absolution is also an awesome ship. curse is not as good as it was, but does its job very well. unfortunatly ccp had a brain fart with the pilgrim and ruined it, hope one day it gets a buff.
Arbitrus Caldari InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.10.25 00:24:00 - [56] i have a great idea, how bout you quit eve because your a sad little person and leave the rest of us who use ammar and kick ass with them alone k? k, and give me your stuff ----------------------------------------------- Come Home with your shield, or come home on it. Signature dimensions exceeds max 400x120 dimensions allowed. Mail us if you have any questions -Targoviste
Mad Mackem E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.10.25 08:30:00 - [57] Originally by: Plaetean stop ***** crying you losers How about you ** off and die.

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