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tiberiusric
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Posted - 2007.10.26 06:54:00 -
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k,with the patch on its way,with all its changes,what do you guys recon will be the solo pvp ships to fly in the game?
now my eos will be used for something else
cheers
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Ribijk
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Posted - 2007.10.26 06:59:00 -
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Vagabond.
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Devoras2
Amarr
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.26 07:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Ribijk
Vagabond.
ditto.
It's great being Amarr, aint it?
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slothe
Caldari
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.10.26 07:09:00 -
[4]
astarte?
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ManTrader
Amarr
Imperial Star Guards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.10.26 07:30:00 -
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The Vaga is useless. The only thing it's good at is running away. If you want to gank miners and industials all day, I suppose it's good at that, but fighting difficult targets like.. frigates, it has it's work cut out for it. The reason behind this is Mr Vaga fly's towards you at 4km/s and launchers his drones at your assault frigate. You turn on your AB and nose dive. His guns will missile and you'll be tanking just 1 launcher. The drones will arrive, but light drones get ****** by T2 guns oh so easily so you just quickly lock and pop all his drones. If you aren't quick the Drones may start to hurt you but once out of the picture, all that damage will be regenerated. Now Mr Vagabond has no choice but to retreat and run like a little girl because he can't do damage and doesn't want to get killed.
If Mr Vaga engages a more.. worthy an opponent, like a crusier, the Vaga lacks the damage to hurt it. If the crusier has even the slightest of tank, with his little HogGob II's out at the you can again tank the pesky Vaga till the cow's come home, however don't even try and engage him, because like a good Vaga he'll run off and warp.
The only thing the Vaga is good as is.. well.. slowing you down.. at the cost of 5 T2 light drones on his part.
Vaga's are useless.
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Damned Force
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Posted - 2007.10.26 07:35:00 -
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Sacri, Damnation
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Niffetin
Gallente
CONsordium Infinate
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Posted - 2007.10.26 07:39:00 -
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Edited by: Niffetin on 26/10/2007 07:39:31
Originally by: ManTrader
The Vaga is useless. The only thing it's good at is running away. If you want to gank miners and industials all day, I suppose it's good at that, but fighting difficult targets like.. frigates, it has it's work cut out for it. The reason behind this is Mr Vaga fly's towards you at 4km/s and launchers his drones at your assault frigate. You turn on your AB and nose dive. His guns will missile and you'll be tanking just 1 launcher. The drones will arrive, but light drones get ****** by T2 guns oh so easily so you just quickly lock and pop all his drones. If you aren't quick the Drones may start to hurt you but once out of the picture, all that damage will be regenerated. Now Mr Vagabond has no choice but to retreat and run like a little girl because he can't do damage and doesn't want to get killed.
If Mr Vaga engages a more.. worthy an opponent, like a crusier, the Vaga lacks the damage to hurt it. If the crusier has even the slightest of tank, with his little HogGob II's out at the you can again tank the pesky Vaga till the cow's come home, however don't even try and engage him, because like a good Vaga he'll run off and warp.
The only thing the Vaga is good as is.. well.. slowing you down.. at the cost of 5 T2 light drones on his part.
Vaga's are useless.
1on1 my Vagabond with your Cruiser or Frigate?
You are not gonna kill it. And you are gonna die to it.
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xHalcyonx
Amarr
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.26 07:40:00 -
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Edited by: xHalcyonx on 26/10/2007 07:40:31
Originally by: ManTrader
The Vaga is useless. The only thing it's good at is running away. If you want to gank miners and industials all day, I suppose it's good at that, but fighting difficult targets like.. frigates, it has it's work cut out for it. The reason behind this is Mr Vaga fly's towards you at 4km/s and launchers his drones at your assault frigate. You turn on your AB and nose dive. His guns will missile and you'll be tanking just 1 launcher. The drones will arrive, but light drones get ****** by T2 guns oh so easily so you just quickly lock and pop all his drones. If you aren't quick the Drones may start to hurt you but once out of the picture, all that damage will be regenerated. Now Mr Vagabond has no choice but to retreat and run like a little girl because he can't do damage and doesn't want to get killed.
If Mr Vaga engages a more.. worthy an opponent, like a crusier, the Vaga lacks the damage to hurt it. If the crusier has even the slightest of tank, with his little HogGob II's out at the you can again tank the pesky Vaga till the cow's come home, however don't even try and engage him, because like a good Vaga he'll run off and warp.
The only thing the Vaga is good as is.. well.. slowing you down.. at the cost of 5 T2 light drones on his part.
Vaga's are useless.
My Vaga with no where near max skills puts out 350 dps.
Your AF will be near perma-jammed by my ec-300 drones.
Leave now troll.
Vaga ftw.
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ManTrader
Amarr
Imperial Star Guards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.10.26 07:40:00 -
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You want to try and one and one a Vengence in a Vaga? Heh, nice joke, mind if I use it later around the alliance?
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2007.10.26 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: ManTrader
You want to try and one and one a Vengence in a Vaga? Heh, nice joke, mind if I use it later around the alliance?
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Gamesguy
Amarr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.26 08:01:00 -
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Originally by: ManTrader
You want to try and one and one a Vengence in a Vaga? Heh, nice joke, mind if I use it later around the alliance?
Are you stupid or something? Vaga is the 2nd most damaging hac right after the deimos.
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Gamesguy
Amarr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.26 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: tiberiusric
k,with the patch on its way,with all its changes,what do you guys recon will be the solo pvp ships to fly in the game?
now my eos will be used for something else
cheers
Widow.
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VJ Maverick
Caldari
Maverick Specialized Services
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Posted - 2007.10.26 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: ManTrader
The Vaga is useless. The only thing it's good at is running away. If you want to gank miners and industials all day, I suppose it's good at that, but fighting difficult targets like.. frigates, it has it's work cut out for it. The reason behind this is Mr Vaga fly's towards you at 4km/s and launchers his drones at your assault frigate. You turn on your AB and nose dive. His guns will missile and you'll be tanking just 1 launcher. The drones will arrive, but light drones get ****** by T2 guns oh so easily so you just quickly lock and pop all his drones. If you aren't quick the Drones may start to hurt you but once out of the picture, all that damage will be regenerated. Now Mr Vagabond has no choice but to retreat and run like a little girl because he can't do damage and doesn't want to get killed.
If Mr Vaga engages a more.. worthy an opponent, like a crusier, the Vaga lacks the damage to hurt it. If the crusier has even the slightest of tank, with his little HogGob II's out at the you can again tank the pesky Vaga till the cow's come home, however don't even try and engage him, because like a good Vaga he'll run off and warp.
The only thing the Vaga is good as is.. well.. slowing you down.. at the cost of 5 T2 light drones on his part.
Vaga's are useless.
You must be the only guy in Eve playing with real-time joystick control of your ship.
Originally by: Marquis Dean
As with most threads in Ships & Mods, it ended up with Ryysa yelling at everyone.
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XrayZ
Euphoria Foundation
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Posted - 2007.10.26 08:33:00 -
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 phoon will be the new I-w1n ship.
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Lara Roxx
Gallente
Valkyries of Valhalla
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Posted - 2007.10.26 08:45:00 -
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kronos... just look at it if anyone can call it balanced ,can i have some of that your smoking?
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.26 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: ManTrader
The Vaga is useless. The only thing it's good at is running away. If you want to gank miners and industials all day, I suppose it's good at that, but fighting difficult targets like.. frigates, it has it's work cut out for it. The reason behind this is Mr Vaga fly's towards you at 4km/s and launchers his drones at your assault frigate. You turn on your AB and nose dive. His guns will missile and you'll be tanking just 1 launcher. The drones will arrive, but light drones get ****** by T2 guns oh so easily so you just quickly lock and pop all his drones. If you aren't quick the Drones may start to hurt you but once out of the picture, all that damage will be regenerated. Now Mr Vagabond has no choice but to retreat and run like a little girl because he can't do damage and doesn't want to get killed.
If Mr Vaga engages a more.. worthy an opponent, like a crusier, the Vaga lacks the damage to hurt it. If the crusier has even the slightest of tank, with his little HogGob II's out at the you can again tank the pesky Vaga till the cow's come home, however don't even try and engage him, because like a good Vaga he'll run off and warp.
The only thing the Vaga is good as is.. well.. slowing you down.. at the cost of 5 T2 light drones on his part.
Vaga's are useless.
Bitter much?
Having a little issue with flying your shiney new Vaga?? 
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Kurt Phoenix
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Posted - 2007.10.26 09:37:00 -
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The Eos was a great ship, able to hold its own solo, but it was never the best solo ship, unless you fly around with a scout alt all the time then you still die to the first small gang you come across, a vaga/huginn/nano-ishtar are all far better solo ships because they have the speed to avoid dying at the first gatecamp you meet.
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ManTrader
Amarr
Imperial Star Guards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.10.26 09:40:00 -
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Edited by: ManTrader on 26/10/2007 09:43:00
*Grins* I only fly Amarr being in an Amarr roleplay alliance, as thus all I do all day is fight Vaga's. Vaga's may in theory have one of the highest DPS outputs, but it doesn't work when they are moving at silly speeds and their target is small also moving at AB speeds. Once you strip it of it's drone's you'll find it's DPS disappears when in a frigate as it's guns cant track you and the launcher.. well.. it's just one launcher, with AF resis and a slight tank, you hold fine against it no problem. When you fight basically 2 ship types all day, you learn how to deal with their amusing combat styles. Don't get me wrong, if you want to engage a target and get out alive, take a Vaga, but chances are if the pilot is any good, you wont kill him and you'll be 5 HobGob II's less. The only thing that really works against a Vaga pilot is either a Sac with dual webs, a Vegence with Dual Webs or a Curse with Heavy or Med Neuts and web drones.
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Kayna Eelai
Gallente
GNATHIC
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Posted - 2007.10.26 09:53:00 -
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vaga is a good ship. maybe yes: the best. but it's useless with the proper skills, and i am not taking about skills you learn ingame from skillbooks. i mean REAL skills.
the first time i engaged a vagabond, i was maybe 2 month old, so where the other 2 guys from my corp that warped to me when i called for help.
all of us sitting in battlecruisers, low to no skills and little experience in pvp... the vaga pilot was 1 1/2 year old.
we did not manage to web him, he went out of scramble range whenever we wanted, our cannon where missing and he outran all our drones (when that happens, they go IDLE and you have to tell em to attack again)
we didn't have any ewar, but meh~
in the end we 3 had to warp out with the tail under our legs (and we were lucky that all 3 of us made it out of there)
so, i guess with proper skills and experience, the vaga is probably one of the best, if not the best, pvp ship. able to speed tank, able to unload nice damage and able to get away whenever he wants.
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Tar Kara
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.26 09:54:00 -
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Go Minmatar or Gallente
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ManTrader
Amarr
Imperial Star Guards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.10.26 09:56:00 -
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Edited by: ManTrader on 26/10/2007 09:56:29
I guess I just prefer the Amarrian philosophy of.. well standing and fighting untill my structure colapses and the warp drive starts to explode, instead of running as soon as I go below 80% shield. *Shrugs*
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Reto
The Last Resort
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Posted - 2007.10.26 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: ManTrader
The Vaga is useless. The only thing it's good at is running away. If you want to gank miners and industials all day, I suppose it's good at that, but fighting difficult targets like.. frigates, it has it's work cut out for it. The reason behind this is Mr Vaga fly's towards you at 4km/s and launchers his drones at your assault frigate. You turn on your AB and nose dive. His guns will missile and you'll be tanking just 1 launcher. The drones will arrive, but light drones get ****** by T2 guns oh so easily so you just quickly lock and pop all his drones. If you aren't quick the Drones may start to hurt you but once out of the picture, all that damage will be regenerated. Now Mr Vagabond has no choice but to retreat and run like a little girl because he can't do damage and doesn't want to get killed.
If Mr Vaga engages a more.. worthy an opponent, like a crusier, the Vaga lacks the damage to hurt it. If the crusier has even the slightest of tank, with his little HogGob II's out at the you can again tank the pesky Vaga till the cow's come home, however don't even try and engage him, because like a good Vaga he'll run off and warp.
The only thing the Vaga is good as is.. well.. slowing you down.. at the cost of 5 T2 light drones on his part.
Vaga's are useless.
son u need to earn some wisdom.
Originally by: s4mp3r0r
"Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
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Aramendel
Amarr
North Face Force
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Posted - 2007.10.26 10:03:00 -
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Nanoishtar will be still rather nice. Also now slightly vulnerable to the minnie EW frig.
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Reto
The Last Resort
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Posted - 2007.10.26 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: ManTrader
Edited by: ManTrader on 26/10/2007 09:56:29
I guess I just prefer the Amarrian philosophy of.. well standing and fighting untill my structure colapses and the warp drive starts to explode, instead of running as soon as I go below 80% shield. *Shrugs*
i guess u need to earn even more wisdom.
Originally by: s4mp3r0r
"Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
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Corphus
The NewOrder
BORG Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.26 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel
Nanoishtar will be still rather nice. Also now slightly vulnerable to the minnie EW frig.
well the ishtar is a perfect counter to the ew frigs anyway. it can hurl drones at them like no other. ew frigs will live a dangerous life imo.
however i hope they wont cost to much since i would rather use a TI version than the TII version if the price of them will skyrocket. the web range thing on the hyena is ofc a huge advantage vs nanoed ships but the fact that ew frigs will be made of paper (or ducttape in the minmatar case) will make it difficult to stay alive once the enemy decides that killing the webber is a good option.
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ManTrader
Amarr
Imperial Star Guards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.10.26 10:19:00 -
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Since my time fighting the Matari I've been engaged by about 20 Vagabonds and been killed by.. 0 Vagabonds, in ships ranging from Punishers to Geddons, the Vaga was unable to do anything. *Shrugs* Maybe I'm just lucky.
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Reto
The Last Resort
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Posted - 2007.10.26 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: ManTrader
Since my time fighting the Matari I've been engaged by about 20 Vagabonds and been killed by.. 0 Vagabonds, in ships ranging from Punishers to Geddons, the Vaga was unable to do anything. *Shrugs* Maybe I'm just lucky.
dude cut this nonsense u simply dont have a clue.
Originally by: s4mp3r0r
"Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
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Hardtail
Red Dawn Empire
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.10.26 11:48:00 -
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stop feeding the troll?
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Andreya
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.10.26 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Gamesguy
Originally by: ManTrader
You want to try and one and one a Vengence in a Vaga? Heh, nice joke, mind if I use it later around the alliance?
Are you stupid or something? Vaga is the 2nd most damaging hac right after the deimos.
not true. at all...
ishtar, muninn, deimos, zealot?
and at 17km, a vagas prime range, the sacriledge and cerb outdamage it by far
i have 2 vagas, both very expensive,,, adn both gather dust in my hangars... it is a good ship, but nowhere near overpowered... there are many other ships i fly instead of the vaga, dictors/hacs/recons/intys being my ships of choice, i would only grab a vaga if we lacked DPS in my gang
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Andreya
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.10.26 19:32:00 -
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and on that note... if a vaga had no web, and got webbed by a vengeance... i would actually be kinda worried.. a vengenace is a mean little ship :P
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