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bUBbLeS
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Posted - 2004.02.26 13:00:00 -
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nice to see the skill got slipped in today
but papa
is it MEANT to be 40 mil (!) Julius ceaser : "operor vos volo MCCCXXXVII laganum bUBbLeS?"
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.26 13:10:00 -
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Quote: nice to see the skill got slipped in today
but papa
is it MEANT to be 40 mil (!)
that is more than you will ever save using that skill.. ------
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Schizoid
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Posted - 2004.02.26 13:11:00 -
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Seems a bit steep to me o_O
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Jullyx
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Posted - 2004.02.26 13:19:00 -
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What!!!!! Is it out!!!!!
40 Million for it??? Again, only megacorps will be able to buy them ... and I thought CCP was NOT favouring megacorps anymore :(
Are they beein sold just on markets or just being 'delivered' as drop loot?
____________________ Space is still the place... Se a montanha nao vai ate Maome, Maome vai ate a monthanha! |

Lomex
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Posted - 2004.02.26 13:19:00 -
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Does at least mean it'll be more specialized.
But given a lottery method, really not sure its worth it. All it means is you are entered in more lotteries. ___________________________________________ Join in the NEW Sci-Fi Quiz |

Hardin
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Posted - 2004.02.26 13:21:00 -
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That kinda seems a ridiculous price...
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.26 13:24:00 -
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someone misplaced a decimal point, obviously ------
ROBBLE ROBBLE |

Fausto
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Posted - 2004.02.26 13:26:00 -
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Finally. I'll pay 40m without a problem for that one:) ______
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.02.26 13:28:00 -
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Great news here I go. No wonder I had a feeling not buy a BS. --------------------------
Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |

Hardin
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Posted - 2004.02.26 13:45:00 -
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40 million to have 5 Research agents nagging you every evening?
Also some basic questions aint yet been answered on RPM skill...
Can you initiate multiple research with the same agent if he has a selection of skills for instance?
Can you start the same research field with another agent which you are already researching?
etc.
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Jocca Quinn
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Posted - 2004.02.26 14:00:00 -
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It is a Rank 8 skill (battleship level) so I guess its supposed to be 4 million isk.
Then again the price maybe correct. 
JQ none of us are free as long as one of us is chained none of us are free |

Khyle
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Posted - 2004.02.26 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Khyle on 26/02/2004 14:09:09 I have to admit, id buy it instantly at 40Million IF i knew that this really is the final price and there to stay.
With 5 agents nagging, i only do mission for my agent when im in the mood anyway, and have no problems just ignoring the lot (still a lot of RP a day if you have 3 or 4 of them, even if you ignore them all).
Cost efficiency and saving money? frankly, if cost efficiency mattered that much much less things would be done by much less ppl in BS (f.e. try to calculate the break even point of mining in a BS in safe space compared to a thorax, its insane). Its all about fun and your style (though i fail to see the fun in BS strip mining in 1.0, but alas ppl differ)
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.26 14:30:00 -
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err dont ask me why but i thought the post was regarding scrap metal processing, heh.
hmm maybe the skill is worth 40m then =P ------
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.02.26 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 26/02/2004 14:54:37
"40 Million for it??? Again, only megacorps will be able to buy them ... and I thought CCP was NOT favouring megacorps anymore :("
... I'd check if it isn't someone re-selling them with the markup, first. :s
edit: nm, from discussion in the Skills section it seems that's real NPC price. o.o;
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Cirle
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:16:00 -
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So, for ships we have enforced specialisation by high skill training costs and rarity of construction (interceptors) and now for research we have enforced specialisation by high skill training cost and the sheer cost of the new skill.
Not that I disagree, mind you, but I would guess this will force the skill purchase into the larger corps or the very specialised researchers. It does seem rather house of cards though; buy this skill for a lot to try to get a BPO which you can use with increasingly rare components which can only be gained from people doing missions they find boring (at the moment) or from people requesting you build the items, etc...
Despite training most of the skills up for this, I think I will end up giving it a miss... for the simple reason that I already hate seeing the 'feed me' mail from my current research agent every day, and I am not sure that I could cope with three of them :(
It would appear to have been foolish to try researching Rockets :)
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Amin
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:18:00 -
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Sweet, better get that ASAP! 
Drink StarsiÖ Relation Co-ordinator Caldari State Citizen ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Beldaws
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Posted - 2004.02.26 16:58:00 -
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I got mine.
I'll look forward to getting those 6 eve-mails every day.
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2004.02.26 17:52:00 -
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/me thinks it should cost 80,000,000 ISK 
MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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Sabahl
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Posted - 2004.02.26 18:11:00 -
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Quote: /me thinks it should cost 80,000,000 ISK 
HAHAHAHAHA!
Of course, he's right, y'know.
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Sanjuro
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Posted - 2004.02.26 18:52:00 -
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Quote: /me thinks it should cost 80,000,000 ISK 
If it'd make you feel better, I'd be willing to sell it to you for 80 mil. 
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Rinji
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Posted - 2004.02.26 19:13:00 -
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So anyone want to lay odds how long it will take to get a dev to say "yes, this is how much it should cost"? 
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Roulette
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Posted - 2004.02.26 21:56:00 -
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Quote:
40 Million for it??? Again, only megacorps will be able to buy them ... and I thought CCP was NOT favouring megacorps anymore :(
Uh, I was able to buy one and I'm not in any corp at all.
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Travoid
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Posted - 2004.02.26 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: Travoid on 26/02/2004 22:36:25
Quote: What!!!!! Is it out!!!!!
40 Million for it??? Again, only megacorps will be able to buy them ... and I thought CCP was NOT favouring megacorps anymore :(
Are they beein sold just on markets or just being 'delivered' as drop loot?
They are sold on the market, by npcs, lots of them.
About that megacorp thing, i think it evens it out a bit for research characters, quite to the contrary of your opinion.
Many combat oriented types have at least one of the skills needed for research at 5, meaning it takes a maximum of 2 weeks training time to get half decent RP/day (there are even low quality lvl2 agents with skills at 3 out there). Some imagined megacorp could easily have a few dozen ppl not spending any time or real effort on research ammasing a huge heap of RP for the corp.
A single person geared towards research could only try to compete by doing the daily mission, the top training time and resources you could efficiently dedicate to research was very low.
With the skill being rank 8 and at a cost of 40 million, you can spend more training time and resources to get ahead if you plan to have a research oriented character, and singlehandedly produce more RP than half a dozen ppl of above imagined corp.
I dont know how many corps want to spend 40 million each on ppl not having lvl3 agents or that much spare training time.
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2004.02.27 00:34:00 -
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Quote: What!!!!! Is it out!!!!!
40 Million for it??? Again, only megacorps will be able to buy them ... and I thought CCP was NOT favouring megacorps anymore :(
Not true, im a solo player and can afford it. _______________________________________________
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.02.27 01:07:00 -
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Just bought 5 for the corp.. wouldn't exactly class us as being a mega-corp.
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Papa Smurf
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Posted - 2004.02.27 08:13:00 -
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The price is as intended - insanely high.
We try not to "unfavour" megacorps either btw. not that this is a megacorp only solution, as many who have bought the skill have already pointed out.
If you aren't serious about it, don't buy it.
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Elithiomel
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Posted - 2004.02.27 08:20:00 -
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Thanks for that Papa Smurf. Now i can go and buy it, safe in the knowledge that the price is not going to drop 
--------------------------------------------- Engineers motto; If it doesn't fit, force it. If it breaks it needed replacing anyway. |

Matanga
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Posted - 2004.02.27 09:41:00 -
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Papa please be serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who's going to buy this??? Hard core players Big Corps
That's it we the new/small corps/freelancers ones that have being doing R&D are being f************ck again.
Now all the MEGA corps that already have 10 members doing R&D will buy the skills and instead of getting 10 Bps will get 40Bps (or maybe more)
Again VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY dissapointed
"ÆIn accordance with the principles of double-think it does not matter if the war is not real. For when it is, victory is not possible. The war is not meant to be won, but it is meant to be continuous.Æö George Orwell ô1984ö |

Gun Kata
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Posted - 2004.02.27 10:05:00 -
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Thats far too much for that skill.
Quote: If you aren't serious about it, don't buy it.
Well, I am serious about it but 40 mil is just way out of my price range for me to purchase. Thanks for that.
Quote: We try not to "unfavour" megacorps either btw. not that this is a megacorp only solution, as many who have bought the skill have already pointed out.
This is favouring the bigger corps/rich players pricing it this way - whether they are 40mil or 4 mil they will still be bought by the big teams. Poor/small corps don't have a chance.
Just my opinion. Please reduce the cost.
"I have seen everything now." "Yeah? Have you seen a man eat his own head?" |

Nikodaemonicus
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Posted - 2004.02.27 10:16:00 -
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Quote: Papa please be serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who's going to buy this??? Hard core players Big Corps
That's it we the new/small corps/freelancers ones that have being doing R&D are being f************ck again.
Now all the MEGA corps that already have 10 members doing R&D will buy the skills and instead of getting 10 Bps will get 40Bps (or maybe more)
Again VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY dissapointed
Dude, pls, be serious :P
10 members doing RD, if they buy 10 skills do you know how much money it will cost? Simple maths, 400 million isk. What do you think a mega corp will do? buy 10 skills or use the money on other things? It's very hard to tell, but stop trolling without any basis. |
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