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Toulak
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Toulak on 26/02/2004 15:11:16
Deathstar International has left the PA as of 26/02/04.
We took the decision to leave the PA due to a change in corporation direction, that doesnt tie in with the alliance.
We are now a mercenary corp, and details upon this shall come at a later date, when we are fully functional in this service we aim to provide.
I would also like to take this opportunity to thank the PA for the time we spent in the alliance, and wish all the corps the best of luck in the future.
I'd also like to take this opportunity to announce that we are recruiting experienced combat pilots, we are looking for people with a minimum of 2 million skillpoints, and with previous experience in this area.
Contact myself or Mike Vader if interested, for an interview.
Many thanks.
Toulak
Director of Deathstar.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:14:00 -
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*cough*
bah, shoulda done it a couple of months ago with us :p
*cough*
Anyway, good luck in the future big boy!
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Havocide
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:14:00 -
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oooeee maybe the PA is dying, lost 2 of their best pvp corps, KIA next to go?
Toulak what is your stance on PA, EVO, and the superpowers?
IE are CA, KOS or neutral 
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:16:00 -
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To quote Mr Freddie Mercury:
"Another one bites the dust...hey hey"
Sincerely, GL Toulak and corp. You guys were always fun in gang chat.
Looking forward to Millennium's post 
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:19:00 -
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Luck guys from all of CELES.
hope u find the fun that im sure u are looking for.
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Toulak
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:26:00 -
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Regarding Havocide..
All standings are placed at neutral, due to the proffesion we're going to start. 
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:27:00 -
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Congratulations DeathStar International! Its taken you a while, but hey ;) I can appreciate that sometimes you need to see things with your own eyes for a while to make informed decisions.
(And lets face it, having done PR work for VA and Ragnar in my time I'm hardly best placed to chuck eggs at bad corporate associations)
Good luck everyone,
(Drinks are on me in La Maison)
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Cliff Yablonski
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:28:00 -
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NEXT!
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Jebba IV
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:29:00 -
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:33:00 -
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NEXT!
u could be rite my friend.
the tactic of boring the PA corps to death and making their members quit EVE is starting to pay of..
deathstar left for the same reasons as us, to have fun from a computer game..
Oh, and to all u guys who said CELES were getting owned, we lost 1 ship to EVOL and killed 4.. not exactly great amount of kills, but not exactly a slaughter on our side like folks were saying .
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Jim Bond
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:34:00 -
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Good Luck in the future Deathstar International, unless our paths cross of course
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:37:00 -
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Darth, its pretty clear that guarding a load of rocks in the frigid depths of space is not your cup of tea, thats eminently fine! I must admit I noticed a lot of your chaps in empire hunting the rats there recently, and I have to agree with you, that is an awful lot of fun. I certainly enjoyed the couple of near cooperative actions against the Ducks and Pira-C, and it was helluva amusing to find myself hunting the same targets as Cult of Cthulhu a couple of weeks ago (I was so proud) ...
Love and peace
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:39:00 -
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So when does the fourth incarnation of the venal alliance arise?
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:40:00 -
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Sorry, but there is a distinct lack of loyalty in the PA. Two corps leaving, something must be wrong, no one expects you to come on here and spill the inter-alliance politics all over the boards.
Either that or quite frankly your cowards. It's my opinion, don't try come to come out with "we want a new direction in the game".
Well done evolution (need to go wash my mouth out now.)
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:42:00 -
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Whoa, back it up a second, did Jericho Fraction get allowed back in the Venal Alliance (or whatever you call it now)?
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:42:00 -
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no get it right you didn't on your own kill 4 you took part in the death of 4.
but that doesn't really matter.
Rual Strorge Team Kill Armageddon D4r-h7 Branch INF 26/02/2004 False
Toccz Team Kill Scorpion D4r-h7 Branch BLADE 26/02/2004 False
Ink Rebound Team Kill Megathron D4r-h7 Branch BLADE 26/02/2004 False
Ducken Team Kill Tempest D4r-h7 Branch BLADE 26/02/2004 False
Hasan Team Kill Raven RO90-H Venal INF 26/02/2004 False
Raffer Rush Team Kill Raven BKG-Q2 Branch Fch 26/02/2004 True
not even 6 o clock yet.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:43:00 -
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You reap what you sow.
PA deserve to be ****ed over. To quote Mr Ronald McDonald, if I may, ahem:
"I'm Lovin' It"
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IIIIIIIII
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:44:00 -
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the tactic of boring the PA corps to death and making their members quit EVE is starting to pay of..
Yeah well, to quote the standard PA response this week when challenged about their questionable tactics: "in war there are no rules as long as you win" (not that I believe it mind you ;))
Good luck to you on your future endeavours, Deathstar International.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:44:00 -
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Whoa, back it up a second, did Jericho Fraction get allowed back in the Venal Alliance (or whatever you call it now)?
Err, nope. Alliances are ghey.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:45:00 -
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Sorry, but there is a distinct lack of loyalty in the PA. Two corps leaving, something must be wrong, no one expects you to come on here and spill the inter-alliance politics all over the boards.
Either that or quite frankly your cowards. It's my opinion, don't try come to come out with "we want a new direction in the game".
Well done evolution (need to go wash my mouth out now.)
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!
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Jim Bond
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:45:00 -
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Jim slaps Sutty around with a large Trout and then sticks it in his mouth to gag him.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:48:00 -
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Either that or quite frankly your cowards.
PA or the corps leaving PA?
We're both leaving because we don't fit into regional alliances, it seems.
Cowards or not, with 1 lost ship that is clearly not the reason CELES are leaving.
Now, please don't flame this thread (too) to death with PA sucks, everyone is leaving PA they suck etc arguments.
Oh, and good luck to you deathstar!
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:50:00 -
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Either that or quite frankly your cowards.
PA or the corps leaving PA?
We're both leaving because we don't fit into regional alliances, it seems.
It took you how many months to work that out?
Your corp keeps talking about how you want to come to curse, well get a move on lads, and do not expect it to be any easier than fighting Evolution.
I do try my best not to troll and i mean nothing personal outside of a game sense but it does seem like your covering up how _scared_ you are of 1 corporation.
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Toulak
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:50:00 -
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Either that or quite frankly your cowards. It's my opinion, don't try come to come out with "we want a new direction in the game".
lol
Oh look its gonna turn into a stupid flame war now, classic eve.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:51:00 -
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Oh look its gonna turn into a stupid flame war now, classic eve.
lol, well, look at it this way, its more fun than mining
PS: Sorry for the flames.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:52:00 -
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Either that or quite frankly your cowards. It's my opinion, don't try come to come out with "we want a new direction in the game".
lol
Oh look its gonna turn into a stupid flame war now, classic eve.
No it's not.
Flaming is when kids can't handle disagreeing with one another.
I'm disagreeing here, i don't intend to annoy you with cheap insults, i'm simply pointing out a flaw in your corp(s) actions.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 26/02/2004 16:05:16
Tehel, I have no idea if this is the exact issue, and I wouldn't presume to speak for any of the principle actors in these events, but ...
The critical NVA/FE war issue for the old NVA was the contradiction between between the interests of the PvP/Trading/Empire interested Corps and the deep Venal Industrial/Mining/Megacorps.
The former craved aggressive engagement against natural philosophical enemies and access to Empire via Pureblind.
The latter demanded 24/7 gate camping and territorial control over the core venal afk mining grounds.
If you remember the hoo-harr over the JF ejection from the alliance in the Oberon-led political coup, it was mostly about our reluctance to fight a defensive war for the benefit of the afk-mining megacorps. The old NVA had absolutely no agreed taxation or common defense policy, so to tie up a non-mining corps combat assets with deep venal gate camping was a strictly losing proposition.
Both Deathstar and Celestial Apocalypse were corporations that I actively head-hunted for the NVA as spearhead forces for a counter attack into FE territory. I think they are fighters and agressive raiders not defensive afk-miners.
I have no idea what current PA policy has been of late, but it seems (as an outsider) that they have adopted the old "entrench in core venal with running to empire for agent running" strategy that leaves no room in military focus for an effective counterattack against soft targets or enemy logistics.
I don't think Deathstar and Celestial are cowards in any way shape or form Tehel.
Just like JF were not cowards for refusing to die for Rona/Oberon/CDI afk-mining.
We simply wanted an alliance that had common responsibility and an enlightened military policy. Is it really so hard to understand that core corporate aspiration can differ from greedy alliance objectives of afk mining at the ark feeding trough?
Deathstar and Celestial are hunters. Thats why I once wanted them for the NVA. If the PA doesn't suit that style of play then they have made exactly the right choice to leave.
Love and peace
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 26/02/2004 15:57:50
"It took you how many months to work that out?"
They had plenty of targets to chase around before, it worked for them.
Now they're pretty much limited to fighting Evol and it's supposedly boring, much like former F-E got bored of fighting the former version of PA.
So it doesn't work for them and they'd rather chase around the pirates and whatnot.
Is it really that hard to grasp?
I do try my best not to troll (..)
rotfl.
edit: oh, and DI; gl and hf. ^^
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Toulak
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:56:00 -
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I'm disagreeing here, i don't intend to annoy you with cheap insults, i'm simply pointing out a flaw in your corp(s) actions.
A flaw? That we want to have fun playin a game, and that we're not while in the PA is a flaw?
I do appolagise for that.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.02.26 16:02:00 -
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Thanks Jo, that was pretty much what i was saying ;)
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