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KamiCrazy
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Posted - 2004.02.26 21:57:00 -
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Its funny how things turn out. Lets just assume for now that EVOL really did kick Celes/DSIN asses so much, that they left their alliance.
Now what?...
Nothing... EVE's world goes on, people still blow each other up, and theres always going to be smack talk on the forums here. Who cares? and get on with your business. Sometimes I find that theres too much rambling.
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Maiwenn LeBesc0
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Posted - 2004.02.26 22:12:00 -
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nothing has changed ingame, im sure we will have the chance to fight with EVOL in the future, untill then suppose we are all still KOS:(.
We are fighting the PA, not Celestial Apocalypse.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.02.26 23:06:00 -
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Hmmm, so, let me see if I get the gist of the PA side of the argument here. Stoop says, that because I annoy him that means he doesn't have to keep his word to me. Which is an interesting position to take; kinda like me buying a ship from someone and saying ... "actually, I don't much like the cut of your jib sirrah! hence I shall refrain from paying!"
I have to say that doesn't make much sense in real world or computer games. Your word is your word, break it and pay the price. In this case the "price" is ... nobody trusts you.
Then monsieur Durn charmingly rants again with fury and no substance and having failed to substantiate any specific points with anything as crass as actual facts or pertinent argument, he descends to his basic "... jade jade she's a man tirade etc."
I'm wondering exactly what to make of this.
Does Halseth believe that my real life gender makes some kind of difference to the validity of my arguements or the implications of his own villainy in game?
Is it like this ... that if I am really a green-haired space goddess that he is wrong, whereas if I am not, he is right?
I am confused, but I have to admit, this does seem to be a rather special argument ;)
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Revolution
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Posted - 2004.02.26 23:13:00 -
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GL GUYS, its sad to see the last of the original NVA/VA guys leaving after we fought so hard in the first place to set you guys up in venal, im sure along with the rest of evol we are sad that corps that came into venal AFTER all the fighting was done(rona/oberon etc) let you guys down by opening hostilities with us, us who considered you guys friends ;\ hopefully the future will see us fighting alongside you once more.
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Stoop
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Posted - 2004.02.26 23:32:00 -
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Hmmm, so, let me see if I get the gist of the PA side of the argument here. Stoop says, that because I annoy him that means he doesn't have to keep his word to me. Which is an interesting position to take; kinda like me buying a ship from someone and saying ... "actually, I don't much like the cut of your jib sirrah! hence I shall refrain from paying!"
Yah, I said it like ten times... I dont keep my word to you because you are annoying. Yep I obviously said that. Spin, spin, spin..... Down..wa...rd.... Spi..ra..l
I like Trent  .
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.02.26 23:37:00 -
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That is pretty much exactly what you said stoop (albeit in more interesting language). You were excusing your dishonourable actions because you were annoyed at me?
Or would you like to explain what else you meant?
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Stoop
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Posted - 2004.02.26 23:43:00 -
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No it was more a situation of duality. How can you say that in us breaking our perma-nap with evol (which obviously most of didnt know anything about, and as evol has stated themselves, they dont have allies nor naps etc) make us not honourable... but you in all of your filthy spinning, half trues, and subtle lies.. can remain honourable.
Thats what I said. Or maybe I said. I DONT LIKE JADE AND I LIE BECAUSE SHE IS ANNOYING. (I don't lie. I really don't need to lie. Im not a high profile player like Jade. I don't really care if people think I am a godsend or not.)
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.02.26 23:57:00 -
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You knew all about it Stoop. Lets not play dumb ;)
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Stoop
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Posted - 2004.02.27 00:00:00 -
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You knew all about it Stoop. Lets not play dumb ;)
Yes just like I said that I lied for the simple fact that you are annoying.
CHING. The price in Right!
If a = b, and b = c, then c DOES equal a right jade?
Making sure we are on the same plane here.
Sorry to jack your thread DSIN. It was good working with you guys. Nice talking to you Toulak, you seem like a good guy.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.02.27 00:03:00 -
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Yes just like I said that I lied for the simple fact that you are annoying.
Well yes you did, and your point is?
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Sokhar
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Posted - 2004.02.27 02:09:00 -
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You know what's not cool?... Jade
 True Power
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.02.27 02:25:00 -
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Edited by: Halseth Durn on 27/02/2004 02:30:54
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GL GUYS, its sad to see the last of the original NVA/VA guys leaving after we fought so hard in the first place to set you guys up in venal, im sure along with the rest of evol we are sad that corps that came into venal AFTER all the fighting was done(rona/oberon etc) let you guys down by opening hostilities with us, us who considered you guys friends ;\ hopefully the future will see us fighting alongside you once more.
Who says Oberon and RONA opened hostilities? Do you think that we twisted the arms of GODS, CDI, Infinicorp, KIA, Occassus, Con, Blade Runners and others to stand up and fight against an invading force? Everyone was united the moment Evol made a show of force. Diplomatic overatures from Oberon and RONA were tuned down by evol from the start.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.02.27 02:53:00 -
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Halseth, it really doesn't matter how many times you say it. You betrayed Evolution and the Taggart war-era NVA allies by revoking all pacts and agreements and alliances. Its really quite simple. You swore (to me) to support the NVA declaration of principles and associated documentation and you broke your oath.
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Sokhar
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Posted - 2004.02.27 03:09:00 -
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j0sephine is in jericho  that sux
True Power
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.02.27 04:03:00 -
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I love it when the enemy send their elite special forces alt commandos to perform surgical numpty strikes ... its top entertainment ;)
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.02.27 04:22:00 -
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I'm not an alt you n00b, you've met me before or are you that psychotic you don't remember
lol I think they are confusing you with that alt (Soklar) that keeps flying around venal, lol
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Sokhar
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Posted - 2004.02.27 04:37:00 -
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Edited by: Sokhar on 27/02/2004 04:43:31
Edited by: Sokhar on 27/02/2004 04:38:10
I'm not memorable, I highly doubt that, I'm so memorable you put me on your block list dude
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.02.27 05:04:00 -
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I'm not memorable, I highly doubt that, I'm so memorable you put me on your block list dude
Seriously old chap, you really aren't that memorable, if I blocked you it was probably because you were spamming trade. Thats usually how naughty boys end up blocked. I have a lot of patience for smack, but none for boredom. I suspect you were just being dull.
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Bandit24
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Posted - 2004.02.27 05:09:00 -
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Hardly no one left worth killing 
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Javi
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Posted - 2004.02.27 05:34:00 -
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skipped most of the posts but...
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the tactic of boring the PA corps to death and making their members quit EVE is starting to pay of..
nice try there, the least these 2 "good" pvp-ing corps could've done was stick around till the fight was over. but they can't because they're "bored" and want to leave their "friends" behind so they can go have their "fun".
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"well..."
-Estarriol, Evolution AZN Calculat |
Sokhar
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Posted - 2004.02.27 06:14:00 -
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I hope evol slaps you around jade
True Power
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2004.02.27 06:25:00 -
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skipped most of the posts but...
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the tactic of boring the PA corps to death and making their members quit EVE is starting to pay of..
nice try there, the least these 2 "good" pvp-ing corps could've done was stick around till the fight was over. but they can't because they're "bored" and want to leave their "friends" behind so they can go have their "fun".
I find myself in agrement. Now I most go self-distruct.....
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Javi
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Posted - 2004.02.27 06:25:00 -
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Edited by: Javi on 27/02/2004 06:27:41
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I hope evol slaps you around jade
OoOhhh... the temptations... (and i mean that in a good way... as in barrels.)
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Sokhar
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Posted - 2004.02.27 06:28:00 -
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Edited by: Sokhar on 27/02/2004 06:28:57
Javi I'll give you an isky for her corpse 
True Power
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Javi
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Posted - 2004.02.27 06:34:00 -
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Edited by: Sokhar on 27/02/2004 06:28:57
Javi I'll give you an isky for her corpse
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(and i mean that in a good way... as in barrels.)
not planning on shooting her
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-Estarriol, Evolution AZN Calculat |
Kurenin
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Posted - 2004.02.27 06:38:00 -
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Edited by: Halseth Durn on 26/02/2004 17:05:41
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 26/02/2004 16:05:16
Tehel, I have no idea if this is the exact issue, and I wouldn't presume to speak for any of the principle actors in these events, but ...
The critical NVA/FE war issue for the old NVA was the contradiction between between the interests of the PvP/Trading/Empire interested Corps and the deep Venal Industrial/Mining/Megacorps.
The former craved aggressive engagement against natural philosophical enemies and access to Empire via Pureblind.
The latter demanded 24/7 gate camping and territorial control over the core venal afk mining grounds.
If you remember the hoo-harr over the JF ejection from the alliance in the Oberon-led political coup, it was mostly about our reluctance to fight a defensive war for the benefit of the afk-mining megacorps. The old NVA had absolutely no agreed taxation or common defense policy, so to tie up a non-mining corps combat assets with deep venal gate camping was a strictly losing proposition.
Both Deathstar and Celestial Apocalypse were corporations that I actively head-hunted for the NVA as spearhead forces for a counter attack into FE territory. I think they are fighters and agressive raiders not defensive afk-miners.
I have no idea what current PA policy has been of late, but it seems (as an outsider) that they have adopted the old "entrench in core venal with running to empire for agent running" strategy that leaves no room in military focus for an effective counterattack against soft targets or enemy logistics.
I don't think Deathstar and Celestial are cowards in any way shape or form Tehel.
Just like JF were not cowards for refusing to die for Rona/Oberon/CDI afk-mining.
We simply wanted an alliance that had common responsibility and an enlightened military policy. Is it really so hard to understand that core corporate aspiration can differ from greedy alliance objectives of afk mining at the ark feeding trough?
Deathstar and Celestial are hunters. Thats why I once wanted them for the NVA. If the PA doesn't suit that style of play then they have made exactly the right choice to leave.
I swear, you could put lipstick on a pig, tell everyone it was the queen, and 3/4 of the people reading this board would believe you. I dont know if it is you, or the weak minds of those bedazzeled by your fancy words, but I have got to hand it to you jade. And by the way, 90% of the above post is complete horse-Sh!t.
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Just like JF were not cowards for refusing to die for Rona/Oberon/CDI afk-mining.
Oh the DRAMA, Oh the anguish of your poor corporation! PLEASE. From a month before the NVA crumbled JF participation in Venal consisted of 1 pilot(TAKER) alone. While you mouthed-off about how dead the NVA was from Torrinos.
FYI, Good luck to deathstar. Toulac will be missed.
I was there fighting a month and a half before you kicked Jericho, and due to your alliances amazing skills at questioning orders, we generally got it handed to us. Just some clarification for you.
Okay, also, Miso, although utter ****e at PvP was there. Erm, Serak Tur was also fighting.
The reason you crumbled was because none of you followed orders, I would be like "okay im going in, when i say warp to me, you warp to me"
... 5 secounds pass...
Me >"warp to me"
NVA guy > "why?"
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[22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas?
[22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.02.27 06:39:00 -
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Im waitin for Miso Jade and Lian in a dead end system in the middle of nowhere, with me, in a station
mmmmmmmm
naked jello wrestling
w00t
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
IIIIIIIII
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Posted - 2004.02.27 07:09:00 -
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Edited by: Halseth Durn on 26/02/2004 17:05:41
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 26/02/2004 16:05:16
Tehel, I have no idea if this is the exact issue, and I wouldn't presume to speak for any of the principle actors in these events, but ...
The critical NVA/FE war issue for the old NVA was the contradiction between between the interests of the PvP/Trading/Empire interested Corps and the deep Venal Industrial/Mining/Megacorps.
The former craved aggressive engagement against natural philosophical enemies and access to Empire via Pureblind.
The latter demanded 24/7 gate camping and territorial control over the core venal afk mining grounds.
If you remember the hoo-harr over the JF ejection from the alliance in the Oberon-led political coup, it was mostly about our reluctance to fight a defensive war for the benefit of the afk-mining megacorps. The old NVA had absolutely no agreed taxation or common defense policy, so to tie up a non-mining corps combat assets with deep venal gate camping was a strictly losing proposition.
Both Deathstar and Celestial Apocalypse were corporations that I actively head-hunted for the NVA as spearhead forces for a counter attack into FE territory. I think they are fighters and agressive raiders not defensive afk-miners.
I have no idea what current PA policy has been of late, but it seems (as an outsider) that they have adopted the old "entrench in core venal with running to empire for agent running" strategy that leaves no room in military focus for an effective counterattack against soft targets or enemy logistics.
I don't think Deathstar and Celestial are cowards in any way shape or form Tehel.
Just like JF were not cowards for refusing to die for Rona/Oberon/CDI afk-mining.
We simply wanted an alliance that had common responsibility and an enlightened military policy. Is it really so hard to understand that core corporate aspiration can differ from greedy alliance objectives of afk mining at the ark feeding trough?
Deathstar and Celestial are hunters. Thats why I once wanted them for the NVA. If the PA doesn't suit that style of play then they have made exactly the right choice to leave.
I swear, you could put lipstick on a pig, tell everyone it was the queen, and 3/4 of the people reading this board would believe you. I dont know if it is you, or the weak minds of those bedazzeled by your fancy words, but I have got to hand it to you jade. And by the way, 90% of the above post is complete horse-Sh!t.
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Just like JF were not cowards for refusing to die for Rona/Oberon/CDI afk-mining.
Oh the DRAMA, Oh the anguish of your poor corporation! PLEASE. From a month before the NVA crumbled JF participation in Venal consisted of 1 pilot(TAKER) alone. While you mouthed-off about how dead the NVA was from Torrinos.
FYI, Good luck to deathstar. Toulac will be missed.
I was there fighting a month and a half before you kicked Jericho, and due to your alliances amazing skills at questioning orders, we generally got it handed to us. Just some clarification for you.
Okay, also, Miso, although utter ****e at PvP was there. Erm, Serak Tur was also fighting.
The reason you crumbled was because none of you followed orders, I would be like "okay im going in, when i say warp to me, you warp to me"
... 5 secounds pass...
Me >"warp to me"
NVA guy > "why?"
:)
Dont mind me, I just wanted to get in on the quoting three people before me action.
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Toulak
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Posted - 2004.02.27 12:29:00 -
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nice try there, the least these 2 "good" pvp-ing corps could've done was stick around till the fight was over. but they can't because they're "bored" and want to leave their "friends" behind so they can go have their "fun".
Roflmao, I pay to play and have fun deary, I dont pay a tenner a month, to play and get bored outa my arse for 3 months, if I wanted that I'd quit my courses and get a job.
Carry on with your stupid "politics" because quite frankly we or celest dont care
Thanks to all those words of support from everyone, and its nice to see not everyone takes everything that happens in this game so damn seriously.
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Javi
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Posted - 2004.02.27 15:37:00 -
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Roflmao, I pay to play and have fun deary, I dont pay a tenner a month, to play and get bored outa my arse for 3 months, if I wanted that I'd quit my courses and get a job.
lol everytime these guys get the truth smacked in their faces, they come up with the lamest responses. sorries but its way too obvious.
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