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ZerKar Caldari Zen'Tar	Posted - 2007.10.30 19:04:00 - [91] Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 30/10/2007 10:02:04 Originally by: Leilani Solaris Just like you put a chain on your bike if you leave it outside you should be able to password your ship. In real life your bike, or parts of it, can get stolen even if you chain it. Same for cars, my car was broken into once and the stereo stolen, even though the car had burglar-alarm and was inside a garage. Password-protecting a ship would make it impossible to steal... and EVE is supposed to be harsher than real life. How would you suggest we tackle that angle? Simple, get more milage out of those Hacking devices and skills. Allow a proficient hacker to pick the lock if they have enough time and skill and get the password or just disable the password so they can run off. Even your stereo thief did not put his hand through the window and magically teleport your stereo out. He had to break the window and pry out the bit he wanted. This like anything else should take some work. ---------------------------------------------------------- I saw the Sign...! O.o
Pig Face	Posted - 2007.10.30 19:12:00 - [92] New Item: Thermo Security Field Description: Once activated amits a force field which protects and prevents any missuse of ship, Atributes: activation time ( after eject ) 60secs Force field strengh 500hp Resistance: Em 20% , Kin 20%, Exp 20%, Therm 90% Bonus: Shield +5% per lvl Acitvation time -10secs per lvl Skills Req: Security Field lvl 1 Note Sends a Steal mail when shield is breached
Bluefix Gnu Terror Corps	Posted - 2007.10.30 19:39:00 - [93] Originally by: CCP Prism X Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 30/10/2007 10:02:04 Originally by: Leilani Solaris Just like you put a chain on your bike if you leave it outside you should be able to password your ship. In real life your bike, or parts of it, can get stolen even if you chain it. Same for cars, my car was broken into once and the stereo stolen, even though the car had burglar-alarm and was inside a garage. Password-protecting a ship would make it impossible to steal... and EVE is supposed to be harsher than real life. How would you suggest we tackle that angle? Imagine how spiffy this scene would be. You eject from your brand new Marauder class ship which is password protected like there's no tomorrow. Only to come back and notice some noob Zerg salvaging his ship into oblivion. Imagine the ISK sink! We should so DO this! ...You were suggesting that.. right? I'm slightly uncomfortable correcting a dev, but I feel brave: Only a ship would be removed and no ISK and therefore it would not be an ISK sink. In fact insurance would have the opposite effect And yeah I know it wasn't really a serious post
Andargor theWise Collateral Damage Unlimited Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.30 19:53:00 - [94] Edited by: Andargor theWise on 30/10/2007 19:52:55 Originally by: Rodj Blake One thing to remember is that ships have crews. Capitals have thousands, possibly tens of thousands of people on board them. It doesn't make an awful lot of sense that one person can board the ship and steal it without any effort. I'm with this. 6,000 crew on a BS won't let it be taken lightly. Or will they? Diplomacy skill, some marketing skill, a bribe... Interesting options. If they are too loyal, have your own troops board and fight for it. Nothing automatic. Then, when the ship is yours, can the hacking start to actually fly the thing... - Stop the Feature Glut: Take the API to the Next Level
Janjan Jansen Amarr Primal Element Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.10.30 20:01:00 - [95] Edited by: Janjan Jansen on 30/10/2007 20:01:18 I think the crew off any ship would prefer a pilot above no pilot, the crews would go on a strike you want to password it. They want be moved around and work hard to die in a glorious battle. They dont want to wait in the middle off nowhere, just waiting till they die off old age.
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.10.30 20:07:00 - [96] Add audit log features to POS ship maintenance arrays. Thxchu, CCP. ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Turin Caldari Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:08:00 - [97] Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 30/10/2007 10:02:04 Originally by: Leilani Solaris Just like you put a chain on your bike if you leave it outside you should be able to password your ship. In real life your bike, or parts of it, can get stolen even if you chain it. Same for cars, my car was broken into once and the stereo stolen, even though the car had burglar-alarm and was inside a garage. Password-protecting a ship would make it impossible to steal... and EVE is supposed to be harsher than real life. How would you suggest we tackle that angle? Pretty simple. Make it a hacking skill or something. % chance per minute or something like that. in RL, ittakes skill tosteal a car, or break in and take a radio without damaging it beyond use. Why not in EVE? _________________________________
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:11:00 - [98] Originally by: Turin Pretty simple. Make it a hacking skill or something. % chance per minute or something like that. in RL, ittakes skill tosteal a car, or break in and take a radio without damaging it beyond use. Why not in EVE? That's what I was gonna suggest. There is already a hacking skill. Why don't you just use it? - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Turin Caldari Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:13:00 - [99] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Krexus Hacking skill. Burglars had to have some skill to counter that burglar alarm. Crowbar? It's usually the lack of skills that force people into breaking and stealing... I have crowbar trained to LVL 5, and im coming looking for you. _________________________________
JamnOne Amarr	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:23:00 - [100] Edited by: JamnOne on 30/10/2007 21:33:16 Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 30/10/2007 10:02:04 Password-protecting a ship would make it impossible to steal... and EVE is supposed to be harsher than real life. How would you suggest we tackle that angle? Ok, everybody has already said Hacking Skill. I would like to expand upon this... 1.) Hacking Skill trained to V 2.) Crowbar Skill trained to III - 5% reduction in time to hacking password per level - 5% reduction in damage done to ship while stealing it 3.) OxyBomb Skill trained to I, II, III, IV, V - depends on size of ship - This is to be used to remove the crew on the ship 4.) Crowbar Module sizes Small, Medium, Large, Capital - Well there are basically four sizes of ships. - Each size can only fit on it's size of ship - Ex: Small: Frigates Medium: Cruisers/BC/CS Large: BS Caps: Mom/Carriers/Titan - Becareful, this module can cause damage to the ship you are trying to steal. 5.) Oxybomb - can be module or ammo to be used to Erradicate the Crew Just another idea to add to the many. ________________________ Originally by: CCP Prism X Hah! Vengeance is sweet!
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:30:00 - [101] I... just noticed this thread is full of what I posted after reading the dev reply ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room...
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:31:00 - [102] First, no, stupidiest idea ever. Dont fly ( or leave out in space ) what you cant afford to loose. How many people are going to be petitioning GM's because they forgot their password, or they forgot to password and someone hopped in and changed the password. What if your drunk and change your password and completely forget what you changed it too ? Did I mention this is a stupid idea, and wastes time they could be working on better content ? ___ Drones hold a special place in my hull, its called a drone bay.
Leya Marcsson	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:42:00 - [103] Originally by: CCP Prism X We should so DO this! ...You were suggesting that.. right? Yes, please! :D
Stokerpoons Gallente Funda	Posted - 2007.10.30 22:40:00 - [104] Originally by: Leya Marcsson Originally by: CCP Prism X We should so DO this! ...You were suggesting that.. right? Yes, please! :D nice quote
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.10.30 23:15:00 - [105] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Krexus Hacking skill. Burglars had to have some skill to counter that burglar alarm. Crowbar? It's usually the lack of skills that force people into breaking and stealing... It's the lack of ways to earn some money. Don't think skilled people are rich, you're wrong here. Students, artists (friends btw) and unemployed ppl are more eager to steal than the guys who put tires in boxes all day long for 10 years. So, if you put this ingame, it should be something you get when you do not make tons of money. A cheap skill reflect that because these guys have a lot of time to loose. To the opposite, to protect your good you have to pay the price. Insurance and alarms are not cheap, and they can be fast and effective if you put some money in it. I don't think it would be so much of an isk sink. If "alarms" are more than say 10% of a ship, nobody would take them. A second insurance vs stealing issues, maybe ? Something like that ? 2isk
JADE DRAG0NESS Dark Scorpions Fate Weavers	Posted - 2007.10.30 23:21:00 - [106] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Krexus Hacking skill. Burglars had to have some skill to counter that burglar alarm. Crowbar? It's usually the lack of skills that force people into breaking and stealing... Yea but most thieves nowadays dont try and steal 1km long spaceships. I support this logical idea, password protected ships would make sence and having hacking skills would be a way of wiping the Password making the ship very grabable. "Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
Tia Nehn	Posted - 2007.10.31 00:11:00 - [107] Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 30/10/2007 10:02:04 Originally by: Leilani Solaris Just like you put a chain on your bike if you leave it outside you should be able to password your ship. In real life your bike, or parts of it, can get stolen even if you chain it. Same for cars, my car was broken into once and the stereo stolen, even though the car had burglar-alarm and was inside a garage. Password-protecting a ship would make it impossible to steal... and EVE is supposed to be harsher than real life. How would you suggest we tackle that angle? No brainer. Allow the use of salvage modules on unmanned ships to strip components of course! Regards etc
Moridin920 Gallente Capital One	Posted - 2007.10.31 05:30:00 - [108] Originally by: Leilani Solaris Let me explain. Just like you put a chain on your bike if you leave it outside you should be able to password your ship. For instance if you eject from your ship at a POS, place a password on it and if someone tries to board it they will need the password to get in to it. Just an idea. What ship did they take, exactly? We demand answers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience our piracy may have caused you, but, we are pirates and, sadly, this is our way."
NerfBat Wack Gallente	Posted - 2007.10.31 05:36:00 - [109] NERF PASSWORDS! What? they aren't introduced yet? that's ok I Have teh power of the NERF BAT therefore NERF IT! WHACK! Notify: you have been smacked by the nerf bat, you are now yet another worthless eve relic.
Thorion Mortisfilius	Posted - 2007.10.31 06:31:00 - [110] Edited by: Thorion Mortisfilius on 31/10/2007 06:31:29 Don't get me wrong, I like the idea. Being the Devil's Advocate (or Dev's Advocate, if you will). I see too much chance of exploits here if allowed out of POS. Like a miner jumping back & forth in his indy until it gets its belly full and I imagine people with greater imaginations than me could come up with many scenarios like baiting people in a frigate and attacking them in a battlecruiser you had hidden behind that last nebula.
Paulo Damarr	Posted - 2007.10.31 06:39:00 - [111] Originally by: CCP Explorer It's usually the lack of skills that force people into breaking and stealing... I worked with a crime prevention charity for a while fitting locks and chains and inspecting homes to advise people on how to secure their property and you would not believe the ingenuity of the some of the methods common thieves and burglars have come up with. Originally by: MOTOK0 A bit like the second coming of jesus only with screaming and tears and whine threads.
zibelthurdos Archron Dusyfe Industries Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.10.31 07:53:00 - [112] Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 30/10/2007 10:02:04 Originally by: Leilani Solaris Just like you put a chain on your bike if you leave it outside you should be able to password your ship. In real life your bike, or parts of it, can get stolen even if you chain it. Same for cars, my car was broken into once and the stereo stolen, even though the car had burglar-alarm and was inside a garage. Password-protecting a ship would make it impossible to steal... and EVE is supposed to be harsher than real life. How would you suggest we tackle that angle? then give us the ability to break in and steal the jump drive. that would make for some sure fun when the pilot comes back to find a big gaping whole where it should have been. ----------------------------------------------- Don't think of it as dying, Think of it as leaving early to avoid the rush
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.10.31 08:01:00 - [113] Originally by: zibelthurdos Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 30/10/2007 10:02:04 Originally by: Leilani Solaris Just like you put a chain on your bike if you leave it outside you should be able to password your ship. In real life your bike, or parts of it, can get stolen even if you chain it. Same for cars, my car was broken into once and the stereo stolen, even though the car had burglar-alarm and was inside a garage. Password-protecting a ship would make it impossible to steal... and EVE is supposed to be harsher than real life. How would you suggest we tackle that angle? then give us the ability to break in and steal the jump drive. that would make for some sure fun when the pilot comes back to find a big gaping whole where it should have been. I think locing up and then finding all of your cargo and fitting gone would almost be more painful to find :D you could even make it possible to steal form ships in POS shields. if they are lucky, a little... metal gear solid in space :P ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room...

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