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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.10.30 14:22:00 -
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I've read through each of the threads dedicated to station construction, and now I am left with a profund sense of not-knowing-wtf-the-authors-were-trying-to-convey.
Eggs?
Let's keep it simple starting here.
Could I get a synopsis of station construction with full detail of terminoligy used? What I need is an order of events, required materials to start and skill breakdown.
Thank you.
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Missy Saints
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Posted - 2007.10.30 19:45:00 -
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OK I'll start you off. Egg is what you deploy to start the station to grow. They kinda look like one, or atleast used to. Easiest to go to market and see what is needed for it to grow, which is allllllllllllllloooooooooooottt!!! Hope this is an alt in an alliance cause if not, doubt you could put 1 up.
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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.10.30 23:30:00 -
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I need a lot more info.
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Kaaii
Caldari Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.10.30 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion I need a lot more info.
Read more.....post less
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
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Falka Lakadaka
Gallente BakaLakadaka Street
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Posted - 2007.10.31 00:29:00 -
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If you read the sticky above about outpost construction and didn't understand it, then you're probably not ready to be putting up outposts.
Cheers Falka
________________________________________ Have a Skill in training every second of every day and never buy a ship you can't afford to replace at least once.
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Horchan
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.31 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Falka Lakadaka If you read the sticky above about outpost construction and didn't understand it, then you're probably not ready to be putting up outposts.
Hell, even if you *do* understand it, unless you have a nice happy alliance behind you, you're still not read to be putting up outposts... --- Yes, I enjoy being an ********. No, your opinion doesn't really matter. |
Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.10.31 03:17:00 -
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Edited by: Kingpin Kempion on 31/10/2007 03:17:50
Originally by: Kaaii Read more.....post less
Trash is what it is.
Anyway, half-baked comments aside, I would like to know the process of constructing a station. It doesn't matter whether I can afford it NOW or not.
A simple outline would suffice. The author of the main thread was wordy and skipped a lot of information.
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K'vire Shema
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Posted - 2007.10.31 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion Edited by: Kingpin Kempion on 31/10/2007 03:17:50
Originally by: Kaaii Read more.....post less
Trash is what it is.
Anyway, half-baked comments aside, I would like to know the process of constructing a station. It doesn't matter whether I can afford it NOW or not.
A simple outline would suffice. The author of the main thread was wordy and skipped a lot of information.
Ok. You definately seem to be someone who is not ready for an Outpost. Thats a station to you. The post that ppl have said about is extremley good, all you need to understand it is some experience in Eve and some patience to actually read it properly.
To make an outpost you basically need to have an "egg" which is the foundation to create the outpost. From what I remember reading "a long time ago" you get a freighter = 1billion isk. Then you put the egg in the freighter along with the minerals needed to build the outpost with = cant remember how many billion isk that is but it is something daft like 25 bill and over "may be wrong". You also need to be in an alliance, 1 bill isk if making your own and need to have sovereignty over the system where you are putting it which means POS's which are further millions if not more isk. Then you put the ingredients together, stir and bake untill downtime, after downtime the station is up and running I think.
Once completed mail a member of BOB, Goons or another large alliance and then will pay you a visit and "help" manage it for you. Please note that once they come to "manage" it you will nolonger be able to dock there.
Read the other posts about Outposts, if you cant do that or dont understand them then stfu and have a good day.
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Helen Hunts
Gallente Red Dragon Mining inc
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Posted - 2007.10.31 03:52:00 -
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The egg first has to be constructed, using the proper blueprint (lotsa cash) and a ****load of minerals. Once the egg is completed, then one grabs a freighter to haul it out to a planet and anchor it. Once anchored, all the goodies have to be dumped into the egg. (Janitors and such) If everything is done right, the egg grows into an outpost during DownTime. _______________________________
Mine da rocks, make more ships. Pop da rats, make more rigs. Sell da gear, make more money.
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Tandori Tanaka
Tanaka Stuff and Supplies
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Posted - 2007.10.31 06:52:00 -
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what is this ? ebay kidz going from faction BS to outposts now
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.10.31 07:26:00 -
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Shema got it right.
In a nutshell. Get ~30 bil. That will cover the egg and materials more or less (you will get egg by contructing it in factory using outpost blueprint), then you haul the egg out there to the planet you like, anchor it, fill it with few freighterfuls of materials, defend it until DT and after DT you will have outpost. After that all you need to do is to defend it from anyone who thinks that they would be better owners for that. Oh and you need to be in alliance ofc and have sov. in the system you are deploying it.
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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.10.31 13:16:00 -
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I'm surprised at the "egg" being just an egg. In such a technical game, I would have expected something more/// technical... than an "egg".
Did I read this right? Even if I construct an outpost, someone else can take it from me?
Thank you for the useful information.
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Torrilin
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Posted - 2007.10.31 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion Did I read this right? Even if I construct an outpost, someone else can take it from me?
Yes.
Why? Because if you do not hold sov, you don't hold the outpost. Control of it goes to whoever holds sov.
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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.10.31 13:51:00 -
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I can see now why Eve has such a low players base. If such a major investment can be stolen in an instant and this is believed to be perfectly acceptable, then there are issues in development.
So far, my understanding of Eve is mine, mine, mine, run a mission, train skills, don't risk a .4 because players who literally have no lives will be there at the gate waiting to attack you... and of course, don't invest in an outpost because it can be stolen.
Please tell me there is more to ths game?
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Sphynx Stormlord
Gallente Anqara Tech
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Posted - 2007.10.31 14:04:00 -
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Edited by: Sphynx Stormlord on 31/10/2007 14:05:23 An outpost functions basically the same as a station in empire. For people who not only go to .4 and below, but have 50+ friends who do the same, and want to establish a base in 0.0
You might be more interested in getting a POS (stands for player owned station, but is much less like an empire station than an outpost is). A pos will set you back a lot less, around 500 mil isk to a bit over a bil, as opposed to around 30 bil. They are built for corps rather than for alliances, and can be put in high sec for extra protection (although not from war decs).
POS's are used to provide extra manufacturing and science facilities, or a place to leave stuff, or a mining base.
Building a pos needs a control tower, and a moon at which to anchor it. You need various fuels to keep it running. You will also want to anchor various POS modules, to allow it to do stuff.
POS control towers and modules fit inside an industrial ship.
I think there may be another sticky (called beginners guide) about POS construction in this forum too.
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GC13
Caldari Species 5618 R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.31 14:06:00 -
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It's only stolen in an instant after weeks of heavy fighting for sovereignty in the system, with hundreds of enemy battleships hitting your cynosural field jammer and then supporting the dozens of enemy capital ships that jump in as they demolish your starbases and put up their own, being fought every inch of the way by your own dozens-strong capital fleet and hundreds-strong battleship fleet.
And then finally the siege of the station itself, where they need to drop the shields in order to claim it. And then when the shields are at 1 HP, THEN they get to think to themselves "yes, I am about to instantly claim a station."
Pheer my run-on sentence wall.
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Tunak
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Posted - 2007.10.31 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion I can see now why Eve has such a low players base. If such a major investment can be stolen in an instant and this is believed to be perfectly acceptable, then there are issues in development.
So far, my understanding of Eve is mine, mine, mine, run a mission, train skills, don't risk a .4 because players who literally have no lives will be there at the gate waiting to attack you... and of course, don't invest in an outpost because it can be stolen.
Please tell me there is more to ths game?
Lol. Scared to go to low sec but wants to put up an outpost.
You're not going to believe me but there are levels of this game that you cannot comprehend. Yes I know how that sounds but it's true.
The main thing your missing is that it is a multiplayer game. More so than any MMPOG I've played. There are certain things only groups can do. Make some friends and you'll see the rest of EvE.
Oh and get your ass into low sec. It's not nearly as scarey as you make it out to be.
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Zan Tu
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Posted - 2007.10.31 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion Edited by: Kingpin Kempion on 31/10/2007 03:17:50
Originally by: Kaaii Read more.....post less
Trash is what it is.
Anyway, half-baked comments aside, I would like to know the process of constructing a station. It doesn't matter whether I can afford it NOW or not.
A simple outline would suffice. The author of the main thread was wordy and skipped a lot of information.
How do you know it skipped alot of information unless you know what is skipped? There are many many helpful posts in this thread and out. I think if you took more time to actually research a bit, do some investigative work before throwing up your hands you wouldn't illicit neg responses to your questions.
Theres no way you will "solo" and outpost, and since this would require massive support, logistics and....cash, you would either have to be "totally clueless" or a troll posting. Totally clueless isn't a bad thing if you ask nicely and do a bit of work yourself, or at least make an attempt to find the answers before you post, or else expect alot of responses like the above..
Zan Tu
"R&D Lottery: A Tax on people with poor math skills..."
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Missy Saints
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Posted - 2007.10.31 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: Missy Saints on 31/10/2007 17:08:15
Originally by: Kingpin Kempion I can see now why Eve has such a low players base. If such a major investment can be stolen in an instant and this is believed to be perfectly acceptable, then there are issues in development.
So far, my understanding of Eve is mine, mine, mine, run a mission, train skills, don't risk a .4 because players who literally have no lives will be there at the gate waiting to attack you... and of course, don't invest in an outpost because it can be stolen.
Please tell me there is more to ths game?
LOL I love people who know nothing about something that make statements like yours above... As a wise man said "you must learn to crawl before you can walk." Please go play the game for a while before you come asking about some of the most complicated and intensive parts of the game.. It's like reading the end of a book and bothering the author as to why did it end that way??
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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.10.31 17:06:00 -
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Broken sentences, assumed understanding of game terminology and a general lack of communication skills all lead to gaps in information.
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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.10.31 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Missy Saints
Originally by: Kingpin Kempion I can see now why Eve has such a low players base. If such a major investment can be stolen in an instant and this is believed to be perfectly acceptable, then there are issues in development.
So far, my understanding of Eve is mine, mine, mine, run a mission, train skills, don't risk a .4 because players who literally have no lives will be there at the gate waiting to attack you... and of course, don't invest in an outpost because it can be stolen.
Please tell me there is more to ths game?
LOL I love people who know nothing about something that make statements like yours above... As a wise man said "you must learn to crawl before you can walk. Please go play the game for a while before you come asking about some of the most complicated and intensive parts of the game..
I see. According to your limited reality, I should not ask questions about things of interest to me. I asked straight-forward and honest questions. It was you adn your trollkin who decided you could talk garbage from the saftey of your parent's basement.
Grow up, little one.
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Missy Saints
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Posted - 2007.10.31 17:12:00 -
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Posts here are being polite, but you are like a person bringing a scooter to the indy 500 or lemans. PLease go play for a while and read the millions of post on eve and things to do.
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Caliwyrm O'Libr
Red Eye .Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.31 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
I see. According to your limited reality, I should not ask questions about things of interest to me. I asked straight-forward and honest questions. It was you adn your trollkin who decided you could talk garbage from the saftey of your parent's basement.
Grow up, little one.
Wow.. I was going to link to a movie that shows and explains how to deploy an outpost but after that little gem I'll just let you and your nerd rage look it up for yourself. =======
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Missy Saints
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Posted - 2007.10.31 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
Originally by: Missy Saints
Originally by: Kingpin Kempion I can see now why Eve has such a low players base. If such a major investment can be stolen in an instant and this is believed to be perfectly acceptable, then there are issues in development.
So far, my understanding of Eve is mine, mine, mine, run a mission, train skills, don't risk a .4 because players who literally have no lives will be there at the gate waiting to attack you... and of course, don't invest in an outpost because it can be stolen.
Please tell me there is more to ths game?
LOL I love people who know nothing about something that make statements like yours above... As a wise man said "you must learn to crawl before you can walk. Please go play the game for a while before you come asking about some of the most complicated and intensive parts of the game..
I see. According to your limited reality, I should not ask questions about things of interest to me. I asked straight-forward and honest questions. It was you adn your trollkin who decided you could talk garbage from the saftey of your parent's basement.
Grow up, little one.
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA I am probably older then your father or evev your grandpappy.
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Braaage
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.31 17:17:00 -
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If you don't understand the sticky perhaps this will help, watch the video. -- eve-guides.com Includes all about POSs, outposts, tech II production, item database and much much more. |
Tunak
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Posted - 2007.10.31 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
Originally by: Missy Saints
Originally by: Kingpin Kempion I can see now why Eve has such a low players base. If such a major investment can be stolen in an instant and this is believed to be perfectly acceptable, then there are issues in development.
So far, my understanding of Eve is mine, mine, mine, run a mission, train skills, don't risk a .4 because players who literally have no lives will be there at the gate waiting to attack you... and of course, don't invest in an outpost because it can be stolen.
Please tell me there is more to ths game?
LOL I love people who know nothing about something that make statements like yours above... As a wise man said "you must learn to crawl before you can walk. Please go play the game for a while before you come asking about some of the most complicated and intensive parts of the game..
I see. According to your limited reality, I should not ask questions about things of interest to me. I asked straight-forward and honest questions. It was you adn your trollkin who decided you could talk garbage from the saftey of your parent's basement.
Grow up, little one.
No you didn't ask straight-forward and honest questions. You asked for a complete explanation of how to build an outpost with all terminology dumbed down to newb level.
You asked how exactly do I steal a Relic? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.) You asked how do I get an artifact from a champion spawn? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.) You asked how do I get the Olthoi Queen's head? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.)
What you've done is walk your newb ass in here claim the existing FAQ is crap and demand that someone post a new one in this thread.
Now when people criticize you for doing that you start attacking the people rather than addressing what they're saying.
That is in no way reasonable. You're the one that needs to grow up. Had you come in here and said hey I read the doc and I don't know what this that and the other thing means could you explain it you would have gotten much further.
It's safe to say that if you don't understand the terminology in the Outpost document then you aren't ready to build one. FYI the smallest group to put up an outpost I believe is 40 people and they made the front page for doing it.
Now if you want to put the daddy pants on and post some questions rather than demands for a new faq I'll be more than happy to answer them. Otherwise I'm done with you.
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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.10.31 21:46:00 -
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Wow. Just wow. I ask for information and get attacked straight away.
I'll keep this is mind in the future and not bother trying to make the Eve community stronger by trying to learn how things work. Damn!
Anger management much?
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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.10.31 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Braaage If you don't understand the sticky perhaps this will help, watch the video.
Thank you, Braaage. There are some decent people left in this world.
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2007.10.31 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Tunak You asked how exactly do I steal a Relic? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.) You asked how do I get an artifact from a champion spawn? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.) You asked how do I get the Olthoi Queen's head? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.)
^ = Greek _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Kaaii
Caldari Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.10.31 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Pwett
Originally by: Tunak You asked how exactly do I steal a Relic? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.) You asked how do I get an artifact from a champion spawn? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.) You asked how do I get the Olthoi Queen's head? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.)
^ = Greek
It wasn't missed....
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
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Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.31 22:51:00 -
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OP is obviously idiotic flamebait.
I'm just disappointed so many have bumped this thread. Errr...final bump I hope.
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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.11.01 15:45:00 -
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Braaage, your video was excellent!
All I have to do now is figure out sov and that other stuff, then I will be on my way to building my very own outpost.
"Egg" = Administrative Outpost Platform <--- that would have been so much easier than all the attacking that went on. lol (I guess most of them don't know the real name of the egg.)
Good job, Braaage.
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Dkorg
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Posted - 2007.11.01 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
"Egg" = Administrative Outpost Platform <--- that would have been so much easier than all the attacking that went on. lol (I guess most of them don't know the real name of the egg.)
That's an incorrect statement. It shows you're just parroting and do not understand the underlying concepts. An Administrative Outpost Platform is an Egg but an Egg is not an Administrative Outpost Platform.
All outpost platforms are "Eggs" regardless of type.
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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.11.01 19:09:00 -
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Braaage, just for clarification on the soveriegnty issue. In NPC (say Gallente) controlled systems, any POS station can built but not an outpost. Correct?
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GC13
Caldari Species 5618 R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.01 19:40:00 -
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POS = Player owned structure = Starbase = Control tower with other items anchored inside or near the force field it projects. Those only go up at moons and can be freely put up in lowsec and 0.0 regardless of sovereignty. Alliances tend to take exception to you putting towers up in areas where they claim sovereignty though. I have no idea how picky the people living in NPC-held 0.0 are.
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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.11.01 20:02:00 -
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The "exceptions" being outposts not stations. Yes?
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Mrs Saints
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Posted - 2007.11.01 20:18:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=562653
Has all the answers to your questions.. You need to go deeper 0.0 , put up a POS for 1 week for sov. 1 and another week for sov 2 to put up Outpost. This must be in a system with out any other POS.
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Par Bobot
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Posted - 2007.11.01 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion The "exceptions" being outposts not stations. Yes?
Most alliances kill POS's not theirs in their space plus they most likely have sov in that area already
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Missy Saints
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Posted - 2007.11.01 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion Wow. Just wow. I ask for information and get attacked straight away.
I'll keep this is mind in the future and not bother trying to make the Eve community stronger by trying to learn how things work. Damn!
Anger management much?
Nope just called noob management!!! The forums are even more harsh then low sec.. Just so you know for the future
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GC13
Caldari Species 5618 R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.01 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion The "exceptions" being outposts not stations. Yes?
"Taking exception" being a phrase indicating displeasure.
The easiest way to think of it is that all outposts are stations (the distinction being that they are erected by players rather than being preexisting) and that starbases are totally different, and several steps down in functionality. Like I said, POS = Starbase = Can be erected freely at any unoccupied moon in 0.4 or lower. Alliances tend to purge them from their space, though a starbase in the middle of nowhere isn't likely to be noticed or bothered.
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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.11.01 23:02:00 -
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Alright.
I'm just going to proceed toward building a POS at a location I like and see what happens.
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Angela Toren
Amarr Toren Shipyards
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Posted - 2007.11.02 18:42:00 -
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Edited by: Angela Toren on 02/11/2007 18:44:37
Originally by: Kingpin Kempion Alright.
I'm just going to proceed toward building a POS at a location I like and see what happens.
No offence but if you have not even grasped the very basics of this game nor even ventured into low sec space let alone 0.0 - how can you possibly have what it takes to build an outpost? There are some things in EVE you can't buy via ebay and isk/gtc sales and that's experience and knowledge. Sorry if it sounds like i'm putting you down but just reading your posts gives me the impression that you are fresh off the boat and despite being new you have 'somehow' come into possesion of billions of isks for alliance sized projects and are almost demanding of people to tell you a quick and easy way to get what you want.
Then again im making a lot of assumptions, discard them at will. _____________
Originally by: Kanye West CCP doesn't care about roleplaying people.
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Reverend Revelator
Elite Storm Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.11.02 20:10:00 -
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OP fails on so many levels it's unreal, but I believe I speak for the entire EVE community when I say that we are all looking forward to seeing you putting up an Outpost in an area that you like.
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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.11.03 02:30:00 -
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Edited by: Kingpin Kempion on 03/11/2007 02:31:47 So many haters. So much venting.
I would try to explain how bad players tend to drive good players away and all that, but I think the argument would be lost on most of you. Do you somehow feel accomplished when you attack someone you don't even know via the "intranetz'? U all pew-pew-pew l33tz roflcopters uber and all that crap?
Whatever.
I started playing this game like three weeks ago. I didn't buy any ebay "lewtz" and I am only trying to figure things out.
As for my desire to build a station, hey, maybe that's my gig. Some of you no doubt enjoy the pvp action, some the merchant gig and still others the whole deisgn and build routine.
When you pay for my account, then you can tell me how to play. Until then, vent your misdirected anger on your parents, significant other, kids, pets, co-workers or your local village idiot... assuming that isn't you of course... er, unless you are into kicking your own ass... something well-suited for a typical village idiot.
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So, I can't even build an outpost in a .4? Damn, that really sets my plans back. I had a nice spot all picked out and explored too!
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Zell
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.11.03 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion Edited by: Kingpin Kempion on 03/11/2007 02:31:47
So, I can't even build an outpost in a .4? Damn, that really sets my plans back. I had a nice spot all picked out and explored too!
something well-suited for a typical village idiot.
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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.11.03 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zell
Originally by: Kingpin Kempion Edited by: Kingpin Kempion on 03/11/2007 02:31:47
So, I can't even build an outpost in a .4? Damn, that really sets my plans back. I had a nice spot all picked out and explored too!
something well-suited for a typical village idiot.
So, what you are saying is we are all cowards? lol Or, are you claiming to never have bitten it in the cold, lonely darkness of space?
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Azzip Inoreppep
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Posted - 2007.11.03 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
When you pay for my account, then you can tell me how to play. Until then, vent your misdirected anger on your parents, significant other, kids, pets, co-workers or your local village idiot... assuming that isn't you of course... er, unless you are into kicking your own ass... something well-suited for a typical village idiot.
You know, I reread the whole thread just to see if people really were being too harsh on you.. Then I realized that the above quote FROM YOU typifies your posts.
You asked a question, people answered and you didn't understand the answer. When people suggested that if you don't understand the answers then perhaps you need to learn more about the game (and they're right I might add) you start flaming them with the tired old mantra of "having no life" and "living in their mom's basement". You also go on to make ALOT of assumptions about lowsec players and how Outposts can be "instantly" stolen. When people point out your flawed assumptions you simply flame harder (like the above quote).
Ironically, YOU derailed your own thread.
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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.11.03 14:42:00 -
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Reading comprehension.
When I asked for clarification, the ****y attitudes INCREASED... as in there was plenty of ****yiness going on before I asked for clarification.
Here's the real ironic part. IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT I POST, THEN DON'T READ MY POSTS OR RESPOND TO THEM. Doing so only shows your intentions of being an ass. This isn't rocket science, people. If you go looking be an ass, you will find a way to be an ass.
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Metathron
S'Erum
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Posted - 2007.11.03 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion If you go looking be an ass, you will find a way to be an ass.
You finally got it.
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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.11.03 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion Reading comprehension.
You didn't get it.
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Reverend Revelator
Elite Storm Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.11.03 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
Originally by: Kingpin Kempion Reading comprehension.
You didn't get it.
I don't think you "get" Eve.
-- Dead People Laugh At The Murder Of Love -- |
Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.11.03 18:59:00 -
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In EVE arrogance is reserved for those with power to back it up. Well long term arrogance - everyone can act big and bad if they are unchallenged, but without power to back it up it's usually relatively short term happening.
I don't aim that at anyone in particular in this thread, it's just general feeling I would like to point out. Also just loosely tied to the subject of outposts. People who are considered arrogant by their neighbours will need the ability to back up their mouths with firepower usually sooner than later.
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Chomapuraku
Templar Republic R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.03 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: Chomapuraku on 03/11/2007 20:53:53 where to begin? as with any large project, let's start with a feasibility analysis:
with that attitude, no corp in 0.0 will take you. thus, you will have neither the location, logistics, firepower, cash, or resources to put up an outpost
if you did manage to do it solo (after six months of intensive carebearing or $2000 of ebayed isk/gtc's), there's a 95% chance that a 5-man roaming gang passing through would turn into a 50-man support gang and a 10-man cap fleet within an hour, and you'd be spending the next 3-4 days either locked in your station, unable to pass through the bubblecamp at the undock point, or popped and locked out of your station, because someone would pop the cloning service and you'd respawn in empire and be unable to pass the bubble camps leading into your system. then, after downtime a few days later, sov would switch, they'd shoot your station, and they would take it and name it in a way that ridicules you.
EVE is not like WOW or COH/COV. you don't just solo your way up to the best content in the game. you have to fight for it, and with a lot of highly-skilled friends. sure, you can solo lvl 4 missions pretty easily, but only a bug in game mechanics lets you survive the first ten seconds of a 10/10 complex or exploration site without a few dedicated repair ships. you can mine veldspar in empire solo no prob, but you need a space-holding alliance in good 0.0 space to mine the high-end ores (and even then, roaming gangs can still come in and pop you).
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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.11.05 23:21:00 -
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So, what you are saying is Eve is controlled by ****s.
Good to know.
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Horchan
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.11.05 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion So, what you are saying is Eve is controlled by ****s.
Good to know.
Yes. And everyone is out to get you. Never forget. ---
Originally by: VJ Maverick Jita is closed on Sundays. It's a holy day.
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Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
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Posted - 2007.11.06 06:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpin Kempion So, what you are saying is Eve is controlled by ****s.
Good to know.
Controlled ?
Eve isn't controlled, that's what makes it great.
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Sovereign533
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.11.06 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: Sovereign533 on 06/11/2007 19:25:07
Originally by: Chomapuraku Edited by: Chomapuraku on 03/11/2007 20:53:53 where to begin? as with any large project, let's start with a feasibility analysis:
with that attitude, no corp in 0.0 will take you. thus, you will have neither the location, logistics, firepower, cash, or resources to put up an outpost
if you did manage to do it solo (after six months of intensive carebearing or $2000 of ebayed isk/gtc's), there's a 95% chance that a 5-man roaming gang passing through would turn into a 50-man support gang and a 10-man cap fleet within an hour, and you'd be spending the next 3-4 days either locked in your station, unable to pass through the bubblecamp at the undock point, or popped and locked out of your station, because someone would pop the cloning service and you'd respawn in empire and be unable to pass the bubble camps leading into your system. then, after downtime a few days later, sov would switch, they'd shoot your station, and they would take it and name it in a way that ridicules you.
EVE is not like WOW or COH/COV. you don't just solo your way up to the best content in the game. you have to fight for it, and with a lot of highly-skilled friends. sure, you can solo lvl 4 missions pretty easily, but only a bug in game mechanics lets you survive the first ten seconds of a 10/10 complex or exploration site without a few dedicated repair ships. you can mine veldspar in empire solo no prob, but you need a space-holding alliance in good 0.0 space to mine the high-end ores (and even then, roaming gangs can still come in and pop you).
just a slight change should be added... you don't need high skilled players to help you... skilling helps tough, but it's not nessesary... a lot of new players can also accomplish a LOT... maybe no capital battles, but for that you can hire mercs to do that for you (no, mercs are not your friends, they might act like one if you hire them, otherwise.....)
and building an outpost by yourself is possible. it takes a lot of work and effort, but it CAN be done. however, holding it is another different matter. Large pos's are a few billion each, they all need a lot of defensive modules and fuel, and this is a completely different issue.
now i await being flamed by the op
edit : outpost can only be build in 0.0 systems without npc sovereignty
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Kingpin Kempion
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Posted - 2007.11.06 23:30:00 -
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I don't flame people who give useful advice. In fact, I don't flame - I counter-flame. ;)
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Jared Knight
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Posted - 2007.11.08 00:15:00 -
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I don't flame people who give useful advice. In fact, I don't flame - I counter-flame. ;)
Sounds like a poor use of everyone's time.
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