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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.31 08:52:00 -
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Okay, this is an idea out of the vacuum.
What if we have fighting in stations, wouldn't that shift lag away from space through a new game play? Station control could be fought and won by capturing the flag. Stuffs from former occupants could be seized as spoils for war.
What do you the community think? Pew pew in stations and in space? /me drools. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon.
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Digital Solaris
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.31 08:54:00 -
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That would suck horrendously... imagine being killed in a station and the culprit moves onto camp the cloning facilities. 
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Garia666
Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
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Posted - 2007.10.31 08:55:00 -
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Edited by: Garia666 on 31/10/2007 08:56:51 Edited by: Garia666 on 31/10/2007 08:56:14
yeah some first person shooting would be very cool heheh.. now you need to enter a station to take control over it...
would be so awsome...
bars to drink with buddy`s after you won a major un-important battle ^^ Your own crib which you could buid up in style...
live ilegal trading.
Live auctions
spying on people who are about to leave with there ship.. :P
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Dirk Magnum
Red Light Enterprises Eastern Star Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.31 09:01:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 31/10/2007 09:04:00 The day that capture the flag determines anything meaningful in Eve is the day I register for WoW. At least in WoW there was never any respectability to ruin.
Now on the other hand having an in-station game room where you can participate in harmless fun (or for items put up as prizes by each competing team) in the form of capture the flag, paintball, etc wouldn't be a bad idea, provided that you can't compete with those you're at war with or red towards.
I mean if you had to do an FPS format raid on a station in order to capture it or something (POS's only, obviously) and getting killed is like getting pod killed (with your ship left floating ownerless in space no less) that would be pretty sweet. Not really sure I want developer time spent focusing on an FPS taking time out of focusing on the rest of Eve though.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2007.10.31 09:20:00 -
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Yeah, while capture the flag is ok in such places as battlefield etc, in EVE? No way, no how, never and thank you very much.
Now, destroy enemy clone facility and get rid of the forces left in the station, before your attacking troops(or re-enforcements supply line gets killed) run out...there's a battle.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.10.31 09:27:00 -
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Please return Jenny 1.0. The people demand it. -
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Paulo Damarr
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Posted - 2007.10.31 09:37:00 -
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CTF/Double Dom or any other kind of mechanic organised teamplay where the combat decides outcomes would be pretty crap for EVE. A full scale fight for objectives would work IMO as long as there where no mechanics ensuring its "fairness" if an invading force managed to board a station with superior numbers so be it war is not fair. Objectives could include destroying ships in hangers with a small raiding force to sabotaging the stations reactors to destroy it.
Sadly the reality of any game having something like this is many years away 
Originally by: MOTOK0 A bit like the second coming of jesus only with screaming and tears and whine threads.
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HelloKitty ToYou
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Posted - 2007.10.31 09:50:00 -
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Can a GM set all posts of the new jenny spitfire on autoignore for the whole community? thanks.
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Alrich
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Posted - 2007.10.31 10:05:00 -
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good luck fighting the 2 billion marines that every station owner would have stationed there...
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Anub1s
Amarr Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.31 10:07:00 -
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/signed The best idea ever!
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Joss Sparq
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.31 10:10:00 -
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Sorry, but I'm not paying CCP every month just so I can play another Counter-Strike knock-off.
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Fenren
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Posted - 2007.10.31 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: HelloKitty ToYou Can a GM set all posts of the new jenny spitfire on autoignore for the whole community? thanks.
can a GM set all posts of every alt on autoignore for the whole community? thanks
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Missy X
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Posted - 2007.10.31 10:35:00 -
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Terrible idea, for many, many reasons.
1. I and many others play EVE to get away from FPS gameplay. There isn't a lot of crossover between the target audiences of FPS and MMORPGs so it's bad from a marketing angle which means CCP will never do it.
2. What the hell has capturing a flag got to do with controlling station facilities? How does that in any way make sense?
3. A perpertual war in each and every station is moronic on any sort of narrative level. In an FPS like Unreal Tournament with rockets flying all over the place it's just a silly action game with the thinnest of story so the effect that constant brightly-coloured war would have on things like narrative cohesion can be basically ignored in the name of pyrotechnics. In EVE this isn't the case. If a war broke out in a station, not only would it be over pretty quickly but a two-minute rocket-launcher fest in a trading hub would then realistically require something like six months of repairs at least, having all the holes from small arms fire patched up, etc...
4. Lag in EVE is good and in fact one of the only things that makes EVE's spaceflight and combat model (which is otherwise maybe only a rung above cowboy/sci-fi like Star Wars for suspension of disbelief) seem in any way realistic. If anything I hope that Ambulation brings in more lag, unfortunately it will almost certainly have the opposite effect. It's the only negative that I can think of regarding Ambulation actually. I'm sure I'll be cast down the forum hall of fire for saying this, but it's true. I hate all this "turn a spaceship around in 5 seconds" *******siness, everything in EVE happens way too instantly for my liking. When things start lagging like crazy in a big fleet battle... that's the only time combat actually feels right...
5. Enough idiots play EVE as it is, I don't need to watch people going "zomg pwned11!one" every time I dock somewhere.
6. Agreeing with the OP would implicitly suggest that I approve of the practice of the sale of characters, which I do not.
I'm sure you guys can think of more reasons...
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Sadayiel
Caldari Dragon Highlords THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2007.10.31 10:43:00 -
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Edited by: Sadayiel on 31/10/2007 10:45:25 i think the fight to conquer an station is a valid procedure but as long it remain within eve boundaries.
1: if you die you loss Sp, sorry mate no pod no memories recovered. 2: Okay you die no sp lost, but you awake in your clone factory several lightyears away. (while defenders can just awake on the same station) 3: there is only 1 life much likely operation flashpoint (i hated that game realism for shoot) so everyone must seriously consider how to move, no rush for j00!! 4: while you assault the station your ship is in, if you die fail to take station the enemy get a free ship for each assaulter, unless you fallback 
5: fell free to add random and annoying ideas that makes it real but painfully dangerous
on a totaly offtopic, i tought the walking on station will be on a different shard that real evegame, since it¦s not the game itself but a luxury option.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.31 12:37:00 -
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Hi Critics. Why would this be a bad idea? The code is there for in-stations pew pew and this game has potential. I see no point in making its growth stunted and under developed because minority vets can't accept changes.
There are times I wish more new players would join this game and marginalized vets so CCP can make this MMO the best game ever. Attitudes like make me want to work at CCP to contribute to growth. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon.
Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game. |

Terminus adacai
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.31 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Okay, this is an idea out of the vacuum.
What if we have fighting in stations, wouldn't that shift lag away from space through a new game play? Station control could be fought and won by capturing the flag. Stuffs from former occupants could be seized as spoils for war.
What do you the community think? Pew pew in stations and in space? /me drools.
Another of your crazy ideas. Do you even play this game? :)
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.31 12:50:00 -
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Yes, I do. :) --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon.
Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game. |

Waenn Ironstaff
Caldari Elite Storm Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.31 13:00:00 -
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No. I think you're looking for Star Wars Galaxies...
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Caffeine Junkie
Caldari The Ministry Of Funny Walks
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Posted - 2007.10.31 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Okay, this is an idea out of the vacuum.
What if we have fighting in stations, wouldn't that shift lag away from space through a new game play? Station control could be fought and won by capturing the flag. Stuffs from former occupants could be seized as spoils for war.
What do you the community think? Pew pew in stations and in space? /me drools.
Depends, can I fit my Navy Mega down the corridor?
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.31 19:35:00 -
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Yes Caffeine Junkie but only in docking bay. Come on, this idea is not that bad. :s --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon.
Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game. |

Sarah McTeef
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Posted - 2007.10.31 19:38:00 -
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*Repeatedly bumps Jenny in the station so she can't board a ship* |

ElCoCo
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.31 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Okay, this is an idea out of the vacuum.
The one between your ears huh?
I know what will fix lag... go play backgammon online or something
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Willow Whisp
Sadist Faction
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Posted - 2007.10.31 19:53:00 -
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Sounds like a plan to me. Since you are outside your pod, however, it would mean that if a character is killed during in-station live-fire combat activity, you would return to the latest medical clone you installed, at the time when you installed it.
That means that unless you pay the full clone price at the medical station every time you want to pew pew, you will return to whatever skill training status you had when the medical clone was installed, since the POD transfer mechanism wouldn't be there to do a last-minute backup of your current state.
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari Karjala Inc. Onnenpyora
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Posted - 2007.10.31 19:56:00 -
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Clonevat campers! banzor.
I'd love to have an occassional brawl at local bar and horribly get kicked out of station. I suspect it's not gonna be possible soon though.
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Leo Gettz
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Posted - 2007.10.31 20:02:00 -
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yeah some first person shooting would be very cool heheh.. now you need to enter a station to take control over it...
would be so awsome...
bars to drink with buddy`s after you won a major un-important battle ^^ Your own crib which you could build up in style...
live ilegal trading.
Live auctions
spying on people who are about to leave with there ship.. :P
mabe some ho`s to relax your char abit
jobs
live market
the options are limmitless
ya could have a buddy docked in the same station as a war target and they could tell ya what boat they'll be in when they undock 
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Boomershoot
Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.
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Posted - 2007.10.31 20:06:00 -
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implement mind clash minigame and be able to bet on outcomes, that would be funny :D
@ op: sounds like halo, doesn't it?
Originally by: 'CCP Nozh' We did not expect the requests to prematurely end dear Zulupark's existence in this universe, some of which were *very* imaginative
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000Hunter000
Gallente Magners Marauders
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Posted - 2007.10.31 20:12:00 -
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LOL out of the vacuum.
I had a little discussion about this with my corpies.
this could work for both pvp and missioning/npc'ing
in pvp, if u want to conquer a conquerable station u will have to first, take over control of the system by annihilating the defending forces, then once u have supremacy, u can latch or dock a specialized assaultcraft onto the station, and deploy troops inside the station which have to fight their way to the controlroom and take it over.
In missions it would work almost the same, u warp to missionspot, destroy npc guardfleet, then land on the npc station thats in the missionspot as well, where u have to fight ur way throught to complete some task (like rescueing the damsel from her cell or set a self destruct timer or get a certain item or whatever.
This could actually work to increase cooperation on mish, could be made virtually immpossible to conquer an npc station on ur own or whatever or mebbe hire npc marines (or u know, the ones that drop as loot on missions?)
I dunno bout u but both ideas would give me a spontanious evegasm  CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.10.31 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Digital Solaris That would suck horrendously... imagine being killed in a station and the culprit moves onto camp the cloning facilities. 
Walking avatars and fighting on stations is coming, friend, like it or not. I say its good. All that is standing between eve being a great MMO and one of the best games ever made is lack of avatar interaction with ships/stations.
Now having said that, from what I've read, when fighting does take place on stations the following will be the case:
1. You don't have to ever leave your ship, you'll be able to continue playing eve as it is now if running your avatar around doesn't suit you.
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2. When people are killed on station, they don't actually die, or have their clones activated. I believe something similar to "you've been knocked unconscious and dragged to the medical facility where you wake up" has been discussed.
And also, have a little more faith in CCP. They are not going to go live with station combat that is reduced to spawn camping. Come on now.
-Karl
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Malcanis
High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.31 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Okay, this is an idea out of the vacuum.
What if we have fighting in stations, wouldn't that shift lag away from space through a new game play? Station control could be fought and won by capturing the flag. Stuffs from former occupants could be seized as spoils for war.
What do you the community think? Pew pew in stations and in space? /me drools.
I'm all in favour of this. It would literally add a whole new dimension to the game. Eventually, I'd like to be able to go down to the planets as well. Given the number of planets in New Eden can't be far short of 50,000 there's huge scope for variety and for community contribution.
PS: I must say that I'm both surprised and gratified to see you advocating such hard-core PvP...
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.31 21:52:00 -
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If any of you guys read EON you would know that the idea is currently to have squad based combat, as in you don't fight, your lackys do. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |
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