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Zirse
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.27 04:56:00 -
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My only question for our future highsec candidates is which one of you is the best spoon thrower? |
Zirse
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.27 05:40:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:Patient 2428190 wrote:Why would casual high sec players need a CSM representative anyways?
The CSM has turned its collective gaze on the isk faucet that is the Incursions.
Begun, the CSM war has.
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Zirse
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.27 05:58:00 -
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met worst wrote:Thorn Galen wrote:Mr M wrote:There's been highsec delegates, not impossible that there will be new ones. But that wont happen as long as people don't care to vote. There it is, that's all true. It's not a problem about a shortage of suitable delegates, it's a problem of the apathy of most Highsec dwellers who simply remain ignorant about the entire CSM process. Or, knowing about the process, are simply are not bothered to vote as an odd, self-defeating form of "protest" on their part. This makes them think that in this way, they are then allowed to spew crap at a later date when they see things happening which they do not agree with. Then they blame the CSM for all their sorrows and woes, and "who voted for you anyway?" and "Highsec does not have a chance" and so on. The candidates are there. Vote - and have at least some modicum of inner peace knowing that when you have a gripe about something going-on in or with this game, you can at least voice your concern from a position of having being a participant. Don't Vote - and have at least a modicum of decency to stop complaining like an unpaid hooker, knowing that you could not give a crap about ensuring that someone who was at least somewhat representing some of your interests and concerns, was not in the CSM - because of your little "non-contribution". A load of drivel. It's not all apathy, it's not a lack of understanding, it's frustration at a ****** system. People can't be bothered because it DOES NOT represent them properly. The sandbox in Eve ensures neccessity for large 0.0 alliance blocs (they HAVE to be big to survive). Highsec does NOT have the need to "survive" and it negates the neccessity for highsec to form up. The CSM system fails at the fundamental level because it does NOT address that single intrinsic imbalance.
The only election null has ever controlled was the last one. Are you implying that highseccers everywhere have given up after one election? Or that they gave up even before the outcome of the last one was assured? (I do recall a somewhat serious 'save the csm' campaign being run by mynxee or something similar.)
Highsec has the ability to be very well represented in the CSM they just lack the will or the desire to get it done. |
Zirse
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.27 07:30:00 -
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Tore Vest wrote:Bears dont care about politics.... We do our carebear stuff .... And..... When CSM/CCP destroy our fun... We leave 
This is pretty much the reality. Luckily for you, no one is seriously out to destroy highsec because it would be detrimental to the survival of EVE. :)
Trying to shoehorn a system that forces more representation onto an a largely apathetic group of weekend warriors is foolhardy.
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Zirse
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.29 23:36:00 -
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Rellik B00n wrote:be excellent to each other. and yet i cant help feeling that a simple mechanic as you log in, eg: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - WE ARE CONSIDERING BALANCING INCURSIONS, DO YOU AGREE THAT WE SHOULD?lots of info regarding reasons for and against goes here.[ ] YES [ ] NO [ ] DONT CARE - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - would work a million times better than some showcase free-holidayathon like the current situation. Before you **** on my bonfire about this you should know I dont care either way im all EvEd out atm, just throwing stuff out there while im still around 
Direct democracy is a terrible idea, even in EVE, for anything beyond the most general consensus of direction.
WE ARE CONSIDERING GIVING EVERYONE 1 BILLION ISK EVERY FRIDAY, DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD?
[X] YES
[ ] NO
[X] LOL |
Zirse
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.30 04:19:00 -
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Rellik B00n wrote:Zirse wrote:Rellik B00n wrote:be excellent to each other. and yet i cant help feeling that a simple mechanic as you log in, eg: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - WE ARE CONSIDERING BALANCING INCURSIONS, DO YOU AGREE THAT WE SHOULD?lots of info regarding reasons for and against goes here.[ ] YES [ ] NO [ ] DONT CARE - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - would work a million times better than some showcase free-holidayathon like the current situation. Before you **** on my bonfire about this you should know I dont care either way im all EvEd out atm, just throwing stuff out there while im still around Direct democracy is a terrible idea, even in EVE, for anything beyond the most general consensus of direction.
WE ARE CONSIDERING GIVING EVERYONE 1 BILLION ISK EVERY FRIDAY, DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD? [X] YES [ ] NO [X] LOL lol - are you running for csm, an alt of someone running for csm, a current csm alt, or just plain trolling? I guess they are all the same thing. the context of your counter argument makes no sense and only serves to radically move the context of the original idea, as was no doubt your intention. i did not suggest direct democracy, i suggested a consultation excercise. Instead of consulting the csm (and their personal/corp/alliance agendas) over these ideas then working with the feedback you are consulting everyone that logs in over a certain period. These people also have agendas and block voting is still possible. technology allows us to quickly survey the views of an entire playerbase of major issues - ticking a box would certainly beat pew-pewing a statue in jita in terms of press coverage. an argument to preserve the status quo here is an argument to keep the powerbase the same and that says a lot more about you and your motives than it does about the good or badness of my suggestion. please do get an answer together - make sure you multiple quote and retort, or maybe take a little bit and quote out of context - you could even just attack the person instead of the argument. Whatever it is, good luck with that.
lolz
Here's what you're failing to understand, spelled out for you.
The CSM is less about droning on about "The free people of EVE Online want blah blah blah and feel this is right because blah blah bah.." That **** sounds great, but in reality it doesn't accomplish anything. See the first five years of the CSM.
What the CSM is or should be more about is poking prodding and nudging CCP and hoping that their collective experience can stop any train wrecks in game design or at least mitigate the damage.
People are quick to scream :tinfoil: but I have yet to see any evidence of this and in fact there's quite a bit that suggests the contrary. |
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