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Raudka	Posted - 2004.02.28 03:44:00 - [1] Bopping around Amarr space in my Maulus I was aghast to see how wretched the starting systems were in regards to ore. The mining inclined new players of EVE and just those doing agent missions have a hard time of actually finding an asteroid, never mind extracting sufficient amount out of it in their starting system. Since CCP seems to think of this as Someone Elses Problem (somone else being the new players) what we can do is to name and shame those corporations that show a complete lack of consideration towards those just starting the game, thereby possibly damaging it's success. The first steps in EVE are hard enough (getting to know how basic things work takes days and weeks) without established corporations doing their best to hinder the first steps of the new citizens. So I made a quick trip to the 3 starting Amarr systems and below you find the results of my survey of the empty asteroid belts. These corporations should be ashamed, remove their containers at once and stay out of 1.0 space with their mining operations. -- Champion of user friendlieness and proper information distribution Defender of newbies EVE knowledgeBase
Raudka	Posted - 2004.02.28 03:44:00 - [2] Emrayur (Amarr Starting System) IV-1 CTE (Cni Tnayovrialc Eht) - Large Secure IG (Imperial Dreams) - Large Secure x2 MPIP (Murkon Prime Interstellar Productions) - Large Secure (adcan) FUALL (FUALL) - Small Secure (adcan) PLEIO (Pleione Inc) - Small Secure (adcan) TACTI (Tactical Logistics) - Small Secure (adcan) RATI (Rat Annhiliation Incorporated) - Large Secure + Huge Secure VI-1 ATUK (Arcane Techologies) - Giant Secure PRV (Privateer Trade and Investment Corp.) - Giant Secure x2 MONK (Hooded Monk Mining Industries) - Large Secure (adcan) IG (Imperial Dreams) - Large Secure x4 N.I. (Neutral Industries) - Large Secure MPIP (Murkon Prime Interstellar Productions) - Large Secure x2 + Large Secure (adcan) FUALL (FUALL) - Small Secure (adcan) O.R.E (Orbital Reclamation and Excavation) - Small Secure (adcan) JJ (jojojow Corp) - 4x Large Secure [one man corp] -GE- (The Galactic Empire) - Medium Secure VIII-1 UO (United Outworlders Corporation) - Large Secure CVLC (Crimson Void Logistics) - Large Secure MPIP (Murkon Prime Interstellar Productions) - Large Secure (adcan) NBINC (New Beginning INC) - Small Secure (adcan) FUALL (FUALL) - Small Secure (adcan) TACTI (Tactical Logistics) - Small Secure (adcan) ANGEL (Angel Constellation) - Giant Secure x4, Large Secure FUSE (Fusion inc) - Giant Secure x5 VIII-2 IG (Imperial Dreams) - Giant Secure x9 OTC (Ota Corps) - Large Secure x2 L.I. (Liberty Industries) - Large Secure x5 SINV (Sol'Invictus) - Large Secure MPIP (Murkon Prime Interstellar Productions) - Large Secure (adcan) FUALL (FUALL) - Small Secure (adcan) O.R.E (Orbital Reclamation and Excavation) - Small Secure (adcan) Emrayur "Champion": Imperial Dreams - Large Secure x6, Giant Secure x9 -- Champion of user friendlieness and proper information distribution Defender of newbies EVE knowledgeBase
Raudka	Posted - 2004.02.28 03:45:00 - [3] Chaven (Amarr Starting System) II-1 DARKO (Dark Omega Corp) - Large Secure L-F (Laissez-Faire) - Giant Secure x2 L.A.W (Imperial Judges) - Giant Secure x2 U-S-M (United Systems Military) - Giant Secure MYT (Myst Technologies) - Large Secure x2 FUALL (FUALL) - Small Secure (adcan) PLEIO (Pleione Inc) - Small Secure (adcan) DRS (Dark Seraph) - Small Secure UNF (UNF) - Small Secure (adcan) III-1 DARKO (Dark Omega Corp) - Large Secure ACME. (A.C.M.E. Corp) - Giant Secure x2, Large Secure CLOG (Capital Logistics) - Giant Secure U-S-M (United Systems Military) - Large Secure BNC (Black Nova Corp) - Giant Secure x2 FUALL (FUALL) - Small Secure (adcan) TBG (The Black Guards) - Giant Secure x12 VI-1 OEC (O.E.C.) - Giant Secure x2 ACME. (A.C.M.E. Corp) - Giant Secure x3 REDD (The Red Dragon) - Giant Secure EIB (Eurisko International Business Inc.) - Large Secure x2 FUALL (FUALL) - Small Secure (adcan) VIII-1 ASW (Asgard Schiffswerften) - Giant Secure O R C (O R C Outrage Compliant) - Giant Secure G T I (German Tech Industries) - Giant Secure x3 FUALL (FUALL) - Small Secure (adcan) Chaven "Champion": The Black Guards - Giant Secure x12 -- Champion of user friendlieness and proper information distribution Defender of newbies EVE knowledgeBase
Raudka	Posted - 2004.02.28 03:45:00 - [4] Sehmy (Amarr Starting System) VI-1 DUST (Stardust Heavy Industries) - Giant Secure x5 GQ (Galactic Quest) - Small Secure (adcan) FUALL (FUALL) - Small Secure (adcan) VII-1 TSSR (The Stainless Steel Rats) - Giant Secure, Huge Secure FUALL (FUALL) - Small Secure (adcan) VII-2 STC (Setenta Corp) - Giant Secure x2 SONNE (Sonnema) - Giant Secure UDIE (Burn Eden) - Giant Secure x7 FUALL (FUALL) - Small Secure (adcan) VII-3 FUALL (FUALL) - Small Secure (adcan) Sehmy "Champion": Burn Eden - Giant Secure x7 -- Champion of user friendlieness and proper information distribution Defender of newbies EVE knowledgeBase
Raudka	Posted - 2004.02.28 03:48:00 - [5] In regards to the Small Secure adcans (Fuall managing to enter every belt, impressive attention to detail) then they are per se not a mining operation module. However it should show you how cluttered many of those asteroid belts are. Finding an asteroid is harder than not bumping into a container. -- Champion of user friendlieness and proper information distribution Defender of newbies EVE knowledgeBase
Xenu	Posted - 2004.02.28 04:12:00 - [6] ::yawn:: ________________________________________________________
cypriss	Posted - 2004.02.28 05:10:00 - [7] Edited by: cypriss on 28/02/2004 05:12:05 Sehmy "Champion": Burn Eden - Giant Secure x7 woot. wht did we win?? actually those cans sit there empty. we haven't mined in sehmy since our newb corp. but having a low sec rating the owner of those cans can't get into high sec space anymore. i can remember when those rocks weren't too bad in size. and they are striped bare now?
Raudka	Posted - 2004.02.28 10:39:00 - [8] Quote: actually those cans sit there empty. we haven't mined in sehmy since our newb corp. but having a low sec rating the owner of those cans can't get into high sec space anymore. i can remember when those rocks weren't too bad in size. and they are striped bare now? Sehmy actually has more asteroids than containers, which is unique in high security space. -- Champion of user friendlieness and proper information distribution Defender of newbies EVE knowledgeBase
Jazzatola	Posted - 2004.02.28 10:40:00 - [9] Anyone have a list of all the starting systems? Thx.
Raudka	Posted - 2004.02.28 10:42:00 - [10] Quote: Anyone have a list of all the starting systems? Thx. Funny guy. No shame. Less than zero honor. -- Champion of user friendlieness and proper information distribution Defender of newbies EVE knowledgeBase
zincol	Posted - 2004.02.28 10:51:00 - [11] You must be bored :-/ Poor nub's got nuffin 2 mine awww! Kestral pilots just pop the nubs ne ways..lol w00t!
Jazzatola	Posted - 2004.02.28 10:53:00 - [12] Hehe. I'm serious. I don't want to spoil their little mining parties but if anyone could provide a list of the starting systems of all four races that would be great. Thx.
Karol Kei	Posted - 2004.02.28 10:59:00 - [13] zincol, man, you are so cool. Can I have your autograph, please?
MiloMorai	Posted - 2004.02.28 11:11:00 - [14] Edited by: MiloMorai on 28/02/2004 11:16:27 Edited by: MiloMorai on 28/02/2004 11:13:32 Just make sure you say our name right, F U All.
Jowen Datloran	Posted - 2004.02.28 11:18:00 - [15] "For You All"? Are you giving things away? ---------------- What's a rumor on page one is a fact on page two
MiloMorai	Posted - 2004.02.28 11:21:00 - [16] Edited by: MiloMorai on 28/02/2004 11:21:45 Nice guess Jowen, but try again. Hint, it's a fun bedroom activity.
Krashtest	Posted - 2004.02.28 11:24:00 - [17] Here is a list of all the starter systems. Domain, Parud, Chaven Kor-Azor, Gebem, Sehmy Tash-Murkon, Arvachah, Emrayur Heimatar, Sveipar, Ammold Heimatar, Ortner, Hulm, Metropolis, Meinigfur, Ryddinjorn The Forge, Kimotoro, Kisogo Lonetrek, Sela, Amsen Lonetrek, Karnola, Togaki Essence, Crux, Duripant Sinq Laison, Nexus, Bourynes Verge Vendor, Anwyns, Cistuvaert. Your Mega Afocal Pulse Maser I perfectly strikes Asteroid (Veldspar) [R0ME], wrecking for 798.3 damage. Your 425mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Guardian Captain, wrecking for 685.9 damage.
Jazzatola	Posted - 2004.02.28 11:57:00 - [18] Thanks Krashtest. Now where did I put those containers.....
Redw00f	Posted - 2004.02.28 12:01:00 - [19] rauka I think you should send in a petition and a GM will come and remove the containers, easy fix IMO
Annoying Bug	Posted - 2004.02.28 12:12:00 - [20] or maybe try a new occupation: ACB (AFK Container Bashing)
Eneroth	Posted - 2004.02.28 12:25:00 - [21] Quote: Here is a list of all the starter systems. Domain, Parud, Chaven Kor-Azor, Gebem, Sehmy Tash-Murkon, Arvachah, Emrayur Heimatar, Sveipar, Ammold Heimatar, Ortner, Hulm, Metropolis, Meinigfur, Ryddinjorn The Forge, Kimotoro, Kisogo Lonetrek, Sela, Amsen Lonetrek, Karnola, Togaki Essence, Crux, Duripant Sinq Laison, Nexus, Bourynes Verge Vendor, Anwyns, Cistuvaert. Kisogo my birth place :-) -Any fool can pull a trigger.-
fras	Posted - 2004.02.28 14:50:00 - [22] I honestly don't think BS mine in starter systems anymore. I just think the ore regen is incredibly slow.
Tar Magen	Posted - 2004.02.28 15:19:00 - [23] A well-researched post that highlights the problem very well. This is clearly a flaw in the design of the game. There's always going to be a selfish element in any MMOG that adheres to the philosophy of a bacterium, "Eat as fast as I can! Nuts to the colony! Nuts to the future!". The only way to address this is to code in some checks and bounds.
Parallax Error	Posted - 2004.02.28 17:35:00 - [24] Aren't we in Imperial Dreams the scum of the earth? Ninja mining all that lovely veldspar from underneath the newbies noses? Nothing to do with the fact that we regularly recruit brand new players and teach them how to play from the ground up. So errrm yeah.... when you see us mining in battleships in 1.0 systems then you might have a point. Until then, shut up, go back to your pointless existance and stop bringing idiotic half-truths to the boards. It makes you look very stupid when you don't know whats going on.
Raudka	Posted - 2004.02.28 17:50:00 - [25] Edited by: Raudka on 28/02/2004 17:51:45 Quote: Aren't we in Imperial Dreams the scum of the earth? Ninja mining all that lovely veldspar from underneath the newbies noses? Nothing to do with the fact that we regularly recruit brand new players and teach them how to play from the ground up. So errrm yeah.... when you see us mining in battleships in 1.0 systems then you might have a point. Until then, shut up, go back to your pointless existance and stop bringing idiotic half-truths to the boards. It makes you look very stupid when you don't know whats going on. Once you recruit them you might want to move them to a 0.9 system? Your manner sadly seems to confirm your corporations conduct. -- Champion of user friendlieness and proper information distribution Defender of newbies EVE knowledgeBase
Wrangler	Posted - 2004.02.28 18:00:00 - [26] Ok, that's nice. Now stop flaming each other. I don't enjoy locking threads but I will if you don't stop flaming. It is possible to have different opinions without bashing each others heads in.. [Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators]
Eneroth	Posted - 2004.02.28 23:54:00 - [27] Quote: Ok, that's nice. Now stop flaming each other. I don't enjoy locking threads but I will if you don't stop flaming. It is possible to have different opinions without bashing each others heads in.. nope not possible. We are born to fight ppl that dont think the same as us. -Any fool can pull a trigger.-
Silinary	Posted - 2004.02.29 00:16:00 - [28] I personally agree that any decent corp will not mine in a newb sector with the sole exception of recruiting and trying to find new players to employ. I can safly say that Imptech doesn't do this (as I discourage it) and if you ever see a member of ImpTech mining in a new player system, let me know and I'll have them re-located. You can do anything you set your mind to.
Raudka	Posted - 2004.03.01 10:47:00 - [29] Ammold (Minmatar starting system) I-1 CRTL (C.A.R.T.E.L) - Small Secure (adcan) FMC (The Friendly Mining Company) - Small Secure (adcan) HEL (Hells Fury) - Large Secure x7 IONC (Ion Corp.) - Giant Secure ITE (Independendt Trading Elite) - 2x Large Secure LDY (Lightspeed Drive Yards) - Huge Secure NEX (Nexus Inc) - Small Secure (adcan) NOAN (Nocturnus Angelus) - 2x Giant Secure OP CL (Opius Clan) - Giant Secure RG (Roving Guns Inc.) - Large Secure VMC (Veratech Military Corps.) - Large Secure WEDGE (The Wedge) - Medium Secure NPC corp - 15x Large Secure, 2x Medium Secure, 2x small Secure adcan Total of 0 asteroids and 39 containers! IV-1 A.T.C (Advance Tech Corp.) - Giant Secure CPA (Crimson Permanent Assurance) - 5x Large Secure GFINC (Goodfellas Inc.) - 3x Large Secure IONC (Ion Corp.) - Giant Secure L.O.D (Legion of Doom) - Giant Secure LGW (The Lone Gunwoman) - 8x Large Secure (one woman corp) ORES (O.R.E. Syndicate) - Large Secure OTC (Ota Corps) - Large Secure SKUF (skuf) - 2x Large Secure SPHER (Spehere of Influence) - 4x Large Secure TAG (The Avengean Guard) - Large Secure TCD (The Core Domination) - Large Secure TLSW (The Legion of Steel Warriors....) - Large Secure 1x NPC corp Small Secure Again 0 asteroids. IX-1 EVER (Everlasting Vendetta) - Giant Secure HHT (Head Hunters Tribe) - 2x Huge Secure NERD (N.E.R.D. Inc) - 2x Giant Secure NPC corp - 3x Giant Secure, 1x Medium Secure 10 small Veldspar! Remarkable!!! IX-2 AIM (Association Independent Minmatar) - Medium Secure A-N (Assassin-Nation) - Giant Secure FMC (The Friendly Mining Company) - Small Secure (adcan) IONC (Ion Corp.) - 3x Giant Secure ORES (O.R.E. Syndicate) - Huge Secure UNO X (Uno Equis) - Large Secure X-TEC (X-Technologies) - Small Secure (outdated! adcan) NPC corp - 1x Huge Secure, 7x Large Secure, 2x Giant Secure V-1 -HC- (Hegemonic Core) - Medium Secure REDCO (Red Corsairs.) - Large Secure NPC corp - 6x Large Secure VIII-1 ATI (Applied Technologies Inc) - Large Secure F-E (Forsaken Empire) - 3x Giant Secure, Huge Secure FMC (The Friendly Mining Company) - Small Secure (adcan) M.I.A (Minmatar Industrial Activists) - Giant Secure Several asteroids! VIII-2 BPC (BPC) - 1x Giant Secure (named "Stripping a NOOB belt near you") FTG (Freethinkers Guild) - 2x Large Secure ITCO (Infinite Trinity Corp.) - Giant Secure NOUNI (University Slackers) - 4x Giant Secure SPHER (Sphere of Influence) - 7x Large Secure, 5x Giant NPC corp - 1x Giant Secure, 8x Large Secure VIII-3 A-N (Assassin-Nation) - Huge Secure ASY (Asylum Industries) - 4x Large Secure CBINC (CBI) - 3x Huge Secure FMC (The Friendly Mining Company) - Small Secure (adcan) .ICE. (Ice is coming to Eve) - Small Secure ITE (Independendt Trading Elite) - Giant Secure ORES (O.R.E. Syndicate) - Large Secure TWIB (Twilight Brotherhood) - Medium Secure NPC corp - 3x Huge Secure, 3x Large Secure -- Champion of user friendlieness and proper information distribution Defender of newbies EVE knowledgeBase
Raudka	Posted - 2004.03.01 10:50:00 - [30] My question to CCP is very simple. How are you making life easier for new players in starting system? In fact.. how are you making life possible for them in regards of mining? Last I knew tutorial missions included supplying the agent with ore. Has this changed? The naming and shaming is going to continue. Starting in a complex world and environment such as EVE is hard enough without even slightly more experienced players making your first steps that much harder. If we want to break the records by thousands we need to be able to offer the new players a starting chance. Frigates only mining in 1.0 or something? -- Champion of user friendlieness and proper information distribution Defender of newbies EVE knowledgeBase

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