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Usagi Tsukino
APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.02 23:50:00 -
[91]
 Originally by: Jon Engel
Im displeased to you attacking Placid Reborn. I will not be participating in any operation against Placid Reborn. That is my own personal decision and respect I have for old friends.
Other than that, welcome to the war.
While I cannot speak on behalf of the alliance, I can say this is the general attitude of the whole group. I personally encourage Omerta to reconsider this part of their declaration.
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Usagi Tsukino // Security Director
APEX Unlimited // Public Channel: APEXCOM |
Yuki Li
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.02 23:53:00 -
[92]
No.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.03 00:30:00 -
[93]
As Placid Reborn had a hand in the capture of the carrier, we will see the war declaration through.
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Kostantin Mort
Amarr
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.05 13:43:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Pezzle
Kostantin, it is disappointing you are so willing to accept this. I had expected better.
On the contrary, I care little for the carrier. All I care about is killing a threat that is greater to the Empire than the terrorists will ever be. The heathen Gallente are dangerous and insidious and thus I relish the chance to kill them, no matter the occasion.
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PiF
Gallente
TAKAGI Corp
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.05 21:25:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Kostantin Mort
All I care about is killing a threat that is greater to the Empire than the terrorists will ever be. The heathen Gallente are dangerous and insidious and thus I relish the chance to kill them, no matter the occasion.
Now that's something else.
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Jonny Damordred
Stimulus
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Posted - 2007.11.05 21:29:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Kostantin Mort
Originally by: Pezzle
Kostantin, it is disappointing you are so willing to accept this. I had expected better.
On the contrary, I care little for the carrier. All I care about is killing a threat that is greater to the Empire than the terrorists will ever be. The heathen Gallente are dangerous and insidious and thus I relish the chance to kill them, no matter the occasion.
Aww! It seems you quickly forget all those quiet nights we spent together. 
With Love,
Jonny D.
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Drethon
Gallente
Lutin Group
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.05 22:08:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Kostantin Mort
Originally by: Pezzle
Kostantin, it is disappointing you are so willing to accept this. I had expected better.
On the contrary, I care little for the carrier. All I care about is killing a threat that is greater to the Empire than the terrorists will ever be. The heathen Gallente are dangerous and insidious and thus I relish the chance to kill them, no matter the occasion.
Didn't realize we were so terrifying, maybe I should run around in a monster costume...
"I may not believe in what you believe in but I will fight to the death to protect your right to believe." |
Kostantin Mort
Amarr
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.05 22:28:00 -
[98]
Please do so. I'll be able to recognise your corpse from the ones of your mindless compatriots.
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Dei Gloria
"God is my shield and protector!" |
Ripster40
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.11.06 00:19:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Ripster40 on 06/11/2007 00:19:48
heh, can't wait to see the fireworks go off. This is a show to remember, remind me to bring some snacks for the show.
Watching parasites killing each other is grand.
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Vokka Korrah
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Posted - 2007.11.06 18:41:00 -
[100]
As a pilot who only flips on the IGS comms channel from time to time, I can only imagine how frustrating it must be for the CYI yet again. It seems whenever they seem to take the upper hand in a war, the wardecs are piled upon them and they are beat down once again. The flimsy reasoning for such declarations are especially amusing, when the truth of personal friendships being the real reason is clearly evident. CYI you need more powerful friends and influence, that is for sure.
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Yuki Li
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.07 01:18:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Vokka Korrah
As a pilot who only flips on the IGS comms channel from time to time, I can only imagine how frustrating it must be for the CYI yet again. It seems whenever they seem to take the upper hand in a war, the wardecs are piled upon them and they are beat down once again. The flimsy reasoning for such declarations are especially amusing, when the truth of personal friendships being the real reason is clearly evident. CYI you need more powerful friends and influence, that is for sure.
Clearly you've seen straight through our intricate web of deceit and arrived at the true source of our reasoning for war.
Or maybe you're just not very bright.
It could be one or the other, really, I'd rather not tax myself such things so I'll just presume that you're correct. If only I'd seen through my own plan sooner, maybe we could have avoided all this horrible violence.
Damn you, Omerta Syndicate, you've fooled me again.
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Souvera Corvus
Gallente
Lutin Group
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.07 03:09:00 -
[102]
Nothing particularly intricate about extortion.
"What care we of the tarnish thrown upon us by those we wipe our feet upon?" |
Taes Valkiir
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.07 06:17:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Souvera Corvus
Nothing particularly intricate about extortion.
We kept it nice & simple so you'd understand. You can thank us later; preferably with a Thanatos.
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Souvera Corvus
Gallente
Lutin Group
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.07 06:33:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Taes Valkiir
Originally by: Souvera Corvus
Nothing particularly intricate about extortion.
We kept it nice & simple so you'd understand. You can thank us later; preferably with a Thanatos.
Typically gracious of you Taes.
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Cpt Constantinus
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.07 11:13:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Kostantin Mort
Originally by: Pezzle
Kostantin, it is disappointing you are so willing to accept this. I had expected better.
On the contrary, I care little for the carrier. All I care about is killing a threat that is greater to the Empire than the terrorists will ever be. The heathen Gallente are dangerous and insidious and thus I relish the chance to kill them, no matter the occasion.
Killing the godless gallente scum is always a worthy endavour.
God luck to you Konstantin.
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Sui Gintou
Naqam
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Posted - 2007.11.07 14:51:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Kostantin Mort
The heathen Gallente are dangerous and insidious and thus I relish the chance to kill them, no matter the occasion.
The only good Gallente are an enslaved Gallente. Only through true enslavement can they find the true words of The Master.
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Teylor Malise
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.07 22:16:00 -
[107]
Extortion, even in this day and age greed and stupidity is still rampant in our fair galaxy.
Teylor quietly adjusted his hood
Please..Die in the holy flames of my cannons.
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Drethon
Gallente
Lutin Group
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.07 23:32:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Teylor Malise
Extortion, even in this day and age greed and stupidity is still rampant in our fair galaxy.
Teylor quietly adjusted his hood
Even though I may never agree fully with the Amarr perspective, they are not without their wisdom.
"I may not believe in what you believe in but I will fight to the death to protect your right to believe." |
Vokka Korrah
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Posted - 2007.11.10 04:47:00 -
[109]
It is the timing of this "debt collection" that is particularily amusing. Is it merely a coincidence Omerta is demanding this now, while CYI is already engaged in a war? I don't think so.
There are two possibilities as to why Omerta has chosen this particular time to declare war. Either they have been called in to help Apex because the war wasn't going their way, or Omerta is militarily insecure and this is a time of opportunity to extort CYI.
I do enjoy keeping up with the IGS communications and seeing how events unfold. It is somewhat insulting to the intelligence however, when we are expected to believe some of these pathetic motives for entering a war (such as this one). It should be clear to anyone who even just skimmed the Apex/CYI news communications that this whole "debt collection" is a weak excuse for jumping into an active war. Omerta has been very vocal early on in this war as to whose side they were on.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.10 06:08:00 -
[110]
Omerta has not been in one joint fleet with APEX or Stimulus this entire war. We don't intend to be, either. Omerta has its own agenda.
Also, if anyone wants to prove we're militarily insecure, I invite them to declare war on us. Please. Firing blasters is much more exciting than paperwork.
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Tyr Cloudstone
Gallente
Phoenix Wing
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.10 08:54:00 -
[111]
Actually i'm going to have to step in here and say soemthing.
For folks who don't coordinate in joint fleet operations you have an uncanny ability to show up at the same time and kill things rather well. we have numeous losses to joint groups of Apex, Omerta and Stimulus. Now i don't mind all the action and i'm certainly not cryign otu for sympathy here but please don't be lying to the general populace about the situation here. Yourselves, Apex and Stimulus do co-ordinate in your strikes on Acheron Federation. I don't see anything Strategically wrong with it from any point of view. You have a common enemy and it serves your purpose to join forces to take that enemy out. Don't try tooting your own horn and denying it when you only have to look at a killbaord to see it's not true.
See you in space i look forwrad to more engagements
Tyr Cloudstone
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Bruno Bonner
Gallente
Lutin Group
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.10 13:12:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Bruno Bonner on 10/11/2007 13:12:09
Miss Sakoda
Here is a very strange occurrence then
As it shows APEX, Stimulus and Omerta attacking the same target. I am not accusing omerta of coordinating with the other parties involved in this war, but this record looks awfully suspicious don't you think?
Bruno
edit: missed the link
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Karl Schmidt
Caldari
Tsurokigaarai
APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.10 13:42:00 -
[113]
Just because there is an Omerta guy on one of our killmails, does not mean that we are coordinating with them.
Remember, all 3 groups are fighting CYI/AF, so it is very possible that scouts from Omerta may stumble on us shooting people up, or the other way round. Hell, if I was out and about and I saw one of my enemies getting ganked by someone else, I'd probably put a few rounds in myself... wouldn't you?
As a member of APEX, I have seen no active coordination between Omerta and ourselves. Their doing their thing, we're doing ours. But like I said, same enemy, same area, so decent chance of getting to a target at roughly the same time. Hell, there has been incidences where we've gone out to break up a camp/pounce on a fleet and have turned up moments after Omerta have finished them, and vice versa. Its just timing... scouts haven't relayed info fast enough, or fleet movement took too long, or the enemy moved... all these factor in.
But like I said earlier, I have seen no active coordination between them and us.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.10 17:13:00 -
[114]
With three corporations running around Placid looking for the same targets, pilots from the corps are bound to converge at one time or another. I cannot speak for individual pilots, however. Perhaps one or two Omertan vessels joined a fleet at one point or another, but we have not as of yet merged a Syndicate fleet into a Stimulus fleet, APEX fleet, vice versa, or any combination. We don't intend to participate in joint ops, but if things change, we'll be sure to be honest about it.
The reason this was brought up was not so that we may beat our chests but to make the lines between the motivations clear. I don't necessarily see anything wrong with flying in the odd joint fleet for a specific purpose, but it isn't currently how we operate. Our concerns are separate from the rest and our fleet will be too, at least presently.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.10 18:53:00 -
[115]
We move around a lot and tend to take opportunities to kill targets when they appear. If this means sharing a kill with APEX and Stimulus, so be it. They are in this war, after all. We're not on the same side, but neither are we hostile towards one another. Thus, if we happen to show up at the same gate, shooting at the same target, there's really no reason for either side to step aside and say, "Oops, sorry; we didn't realize that one was yours."
Our common cause starts and ends with wanting you, or, rather, your clones dead as often as possible.
As for Omerta's alleged stance at the start of this war, I did indeed support APEX against CYI. I'm a former APEX pilot myself, and I've got a lot of old friends there. At the start of this war, I considered them a good balance to CAIN in the Caldari loyalist camp. What I think of them now will depend largely on what friends they choose for themselves; Verone and Naphtalia have been very outspoken in supporting APEX, and those two and their fleets are scarcely friends to the State, or of the Cartel, being openly hostile to the former and loyal to the latter's Gurista competitors.
My comments, views, and record are my own, and I don't speak with Omerta's voice . Anyone familiar with Omerta's posting history should realize that we've flown with everything from Amarr loyalists to anarchists to elements of Sansha's Nation, and that Syndicate members' comments tend to reflect that heterogeneous nature. I happen to be the strongest, or perhaps merely the most strident, State supporter in Omerta's ranks, though certain of my views might be considered those of a jaalan dissident back at home.
So, yes, I supported APEX, and take immense satisfaction in the work we are doing, particularly following the addition of Acheron Federation to the conflict. I'm under no illusion that I'm doing this for the State, but what hurts the Federation is likely, at least, to reduce your ability to meddle in State affairs. That's not my primary reason for involvement, but it makes a nice bonus.
CAIN was far too gentle with you, Acheron. I'll see you in space.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.12 14:26:00 -
[116]
As the Omerta pilot in question in that killmail, let me comment upon the kill. I had been patrolling, solo, for some time before coming across Acheron forces in Tourier. After observing the enemy, and discovering the station they based out of, I waited to see if one would appear. When the Acheron Celestis appeared at the station, I attempted to attack it, but was unable to get within warp disruptor range before it warped. Pursuing the Celestis, I followed it to a gate, locked it, and destroyed it. It was only afterwards that I realized there were Stimulus and APEX forces there attempting to destroy it, as well.
I realize that this is a case of my word against Bonner-haans. I really have nothing to offer other than my statement of the facts and perceptions as they happened. All the same, I feel that it is important to speak up and make clear the circumstances behind the questioned kill.
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Jonny Damordred
Stimulus
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Posted - 2007.11.12 21:47:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi
As the Omerta pilot in question in that killmail, let me comment upon the kill. I had been patrolling, solo, for some time before coming across Acheron forces in Tourier. After observing the enemy, and discovering the station they based out of, I waited to see if one would appear. When the Acheron Celestis appeared at the station, I attempted to attack it, but was unable to get within warp disruptor range before it warped. Pursuing the Celestis, I followed it to a gate, locked it, and destroyed it. It was only afterwards that I realized there were Stimulus and APEX forces there attempting to destroy it, as well.
This is all true, but, one wonders, who cares?
(well, beyond me being able to see my dear Shintoko doing what she does best, that is )
Love and Ganking,
Jonny D.
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