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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.31 18:21:00 -
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For the past few months our corporation has prospered, along with our allies, in the region of Fountain. It was an exciting venture for us. In our search for profit we began doing business with our Angel and Serpentis contacts and found the new relationship to be quite valuable for all the parties involved. As new events unfolded and we left Fountain, the decision was made to expand upon these relationships considerably, specifically our newly found connection with the Angel Cartel.
Today we begin the next stage of our relationship. Our partners in the Dominations and Guardian Angels divisions have a lingering concern as of late that we learned has yet to be addressed. To alleviate this concern and be the instrument of revenge we are most delighted.
Cyrene Initiative, we have come to Placid to do business.
We have placed a war declaration on your alliance. Omerta Syndicate must receive one Thanatos-class carrier, fully built and delivered to the system of our choosing in Placid, should you desire to avoid war. This... bargain is non-negotiable. As you may have guessed, your tribute will replace the Serpentis drug runner your alliance aided in the capture of this past August.
Should your alliance choose to fight, we have assured our partners that more than adequate retribution will be dealt. This is also an acceptable outcome.
Placid Reborn and Lutin Group have also received war declarations. The distribution of funds for the carrier may be divvied up any way your corporations wish, but we will be dealing exclusively with Cyrene diplomats, at least for now.
WeÆll see you in space.
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Thuul'Khalat
Gallente
Phoenix Wing
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.31 18:39:00 -
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Interesting....
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Yuki Li
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.31 18:48:00 -
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Hello.
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PiF
Gallente
TAKAGI Corp
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.31 18:48:00 -
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Ransoming sums had grown up theses days. Pirates are becoming greedy.
Know something ? Sell it to the NeXus network |
Kostantin Mort
Amarr
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.31 18:49:00 -
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Edited by: Kostantin Mort on 31/10/2007 18:50:05
Can't say I'm disappointed at shooting rotten Gallente scum.
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Dei Gloria
"God is my shield and protector!" |
DenWous
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.31 19:02:00 -
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i concour, Gallente Scum
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Promon Delnai
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.31 19:02:00 -
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Finally some action.
Don't disappoint us CYI
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Commander Criton
Gallente
Phoenix Wing
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.31 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: Commander Criton on 31/10/2007 19:06:10
Intresting look forward to seeing how this plays out.
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Yuki Li
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.31 19:13:00 -
[9]
 Originally by: PiF
Ransoming sums had grown up theses days. Pirates are becoming greedy.
This isn't ransom, this is extortion.
We're not pirates, we're Omerta Syndicate.
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Uroborus
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.10.31 19:22:00 -
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Wishing you good fights, Omerta.
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We are a special breed. We possess a vast capacity for reasoning, understanding and similar forms of mental activity . . . and a hysterical willingness to **** up! |
Karok Vilneram
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.31 19:25:00 -
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CYI will dissapoint you. They stay holed up in stations. Then they say it is because of all the Stimulus with us. Yet when I am solo they still don't undock. I know my combat skills are reknown but I don't think my little Malediction was such a force to be reckoned with.
Good luck Omerta. Of course it is CYI that is in need of it.
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Maalan
Caldari
Lutin Group
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Posted - 2007.10.31 19:34:00 -
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I get to have someone chasing my Blockade Runners through space? Finally! Hauling through low sec every day I never even have someone lock me, now maybe I can have some challenge while I'm hauling.
This is a most interesting tactic to use for procuring new ships. I usually find buying minerals and selling manufactured goods to be an excellent way to make money as it doesn't require getting blown up while working my trade but we will see what profit levels you turn with this approach.
And if you notice me not undocking its because I'm busy making ISKs.
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I built that ship you just went and got blown up...
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Julianus Soter
Gallente
Strix Armaments and Defence
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.31 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: Julianus Soter on 31/10/2007 20:32:29
Rather interesting development.
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Syrias
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Posted - 2007.10.31 20:50:00 -
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Omerta's time has come, hand over the carrier or you will pay the very dearest of cost's.
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Deks
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.31 20:53:00 -
[15]
indeed repay your debts or prepare to accumulate new ones in their place 
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oh noes weekend Crash at 2am saturday is like clock work!!! |
IzzyChan
Naqam
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Posted - 2007.10.31 21:50:00 -
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You dissapoint me. First you brown nose some Angel nutters for pretty things, now you're attacking a group of kindergardeners for their lunch money. You are all just a tainted shadow of what Omerta truly was.
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Syrias
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Posted - 2007.10.31 22:11:00 -
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lunch money is of no concern to us, we simply require that the carrier lost, be returned, if this is not to happen however then we will collect the debt as we see fit.
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Syrias
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Posted - 2007.10.31 22:13:00 -
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my sister whilst emotional, captures the spirit of Omerta well, we wish only for the wrongs to be righted. this is beyond our control.
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Yuki Li
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.31 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: IzzyChan
You dissapoint me.
I suppose we should be forever ashamed to have dissapointed the terribly important IzzyChan? Aren't you the same midget Sansha enthusiast that used to work for us?
Who are you to presume that you have any concept of what Omerta truly is, was or will be?
Please, this is business, once you understand how that works maybe you'll have a chance at beginning to comprehend what Omerta Syndicate is.
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IzzyChan
Naqam
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Posted - 2007.10.31 22:29:00 -
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The Omerta I knew and worked for is gone now.
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Naqam |
Taes Valkiir
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.31 22:44:00 -
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Then kindly hold your faux memorial service elsewhere. We have business to attend to.
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Bruno Bonner
Gallente
Lutin Group
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Posted - 2007.10.31 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Syrias
lunch money is of no concern to us, we simply require that the carrier lost, be returned, if this is not to happen however then we will collect the debt as we see fit.
Miss Syrias, you realize said Carrier was captured with help of many Federation Loyalists but kept as evidence by Federation Customs and the Federal Intelligence Office for the prosecution of Commodore Ouvrard in the Case of the Federation against RISE smugglers?.
The Carrier itself is not in our possesion, you might demand and request we return it, but in principle we do not have it.
I do not doubt you were hired by the criminal factions, but i doubt your logic.
Bruno
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Deks
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.31 22:48:00 -
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Omerta has not changed, its goals may have altered very slightly but it has remained the same force since many deserted their posts.
it will again rise from the ashes they have left.
This being their first major course, as a former insider Izzy you will know of our retribution should our demands not be met
we do not care for the idle or indeed sluggish.
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oh noes weekend Crash at 2am saturday is like clock work!!! |
Verone
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Posted - 2007.10.31 22:58:00 -
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Pff. Serpentis.
Unfortunate.
>>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
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Laerise
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.31 23:02:00 -
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Sheep fighting Sheep, sounds like Scrapie to me.
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Drethon
Gallente
Lutin Group
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Posted - 2007.10.31 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Laerise
Sheep fighting Sheep, sounds like Scrapie to me.
I don't see why Omerta doesn't want to play with these people, I mean just the humorous quotes you get from them...
"I may not believe in what you believe in but I will fight to the death to protect your right to believe." |
Deks
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.31 23:35:00 -
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we do not wish to play with any soul, it is a mere matter of fact that we feel our territory has been invaded and as capsuleer pilots we will of course defend our space... enough said...
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oh noes weekend Crash at 2am saturday is like clock work!!! |
Nashime
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.31 23:45:00 -
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Edited by: Nashime on 31/10/2007 23:45:14
Wow, I guess I get to see if I can fit those rails to my covetor now.
But I really do have to thank you for this. The asteroids were beginning to hide from me. I think if I leave them alone they might slowly move to a safe spot and then when the time is right, I can pounce on them and destroy them all in a frenzy of mining lasers and asteroid blood.
Or, I can actually try and remember what the inside of my combat ship feels like.
Hope to see some of you out there.
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Verone
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Posted - 2007.10.31 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Deks
we feel our territory has been invaded and as capsuleer pilots we will of course defend our space...
Your territory?
Please elaborate... I'm intrigued...
>>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
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Yuki Li
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.31 23:54:00 -
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Edited by: Yuki Li on 31/10/2007 23:54:52
Let me clarify a couple of things.
Syrias, who ever she may be, is in no way associated with Omerta Syndicate, and should probably be put down, as she's clearly suffering some variety of mental illness.
As far as the Serpentis and Angels go, no, we don't work for them. Yes, we're connected. Omerta Syndicate is as always, in business, and as I said prior. This is business.
Our... friends lost a fully laden Thanatos, where that Thanatos is now, I don't concern myself with, however, they'd like to see a debt paid.
We believe that having the organisations involved provide us, Omerta Syndicate, with a Carrier, we achieve an end result of mutual benefit.
As mentioned, should the organisations choose to fight us instead, we can achieve our goals regardless. We'll just take our share from your wrecks.
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Corin Nebulon
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Posted - 2007.11.01 00:04:00 -
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Mr. Verone I think what Deks wanted to say is, that it is in Omertas interest that Cyrenes actions against our buisnesspartners stop, so they can focus on their buisness again.
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Verone
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Posted - 2007.11.01 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Yuki Li
As far as the Serpentis and Angels go, no, we don't work for them.....
...This is business...
Our... friends lost a fully laden Thanatos.... they'd like to see a debt paid...
....provide us, Omerta Syndicate, with a Carrier, we achieve an end result of mutual benefit...
I'm confused...
You say you don't work for them, yet clearly you're in DED monitored space, doing work that benefits them if it's a success.
You claim that you don't work for them, yet you say that this is business, and that Serpentis would like to see a debt paid?
If you're in empire, working towards seeing a debt paid to the Serpentis, then how in effect can you not be working for, and alongside them?
>>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
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Yuki Li
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 00:27:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Yuki Li
As far as the Serpentis and Angels go, no, we don't work for them.....
...This is business...
Our... friends lost a fully laden Thanatos.... they'd like to see a debt paid...
....provide us, Omerta Syndicate, with a Carrier, we achieve an end result of mutual benefit...
I'm confused...
You say you don't work for them, yet clearly you're in DED monitored space, doing work that benefits them if it's a success.
You claim that you don't work for them, yet you say that this is business, and that Serpentis would like to see a debt paid?
If you're in empire, working towards seeing a debt paid to the Serpentis, then how in effect can you not be working for, and alongside them?
I'm sorry if you find this taxing, Mr. Verone. For, would suggest in the employ of, and Alongside would only apply if our partners had decided to send a fleet of their own to accompany ours.
Yes, this will benefit the Angels and Serpentis, but I assure you this is certainly not a case of jump and how high.
Omerta Syndicate has and always will act in the best interests of Omerta Syndicate, we're under no obligation to perform this task, we have chosen it ourselves as a show of good faith to those with which we're currently associated.
Omerta Syndicate will never be a dog with a master, if that were the case it'd be clear that we're unable to learn from experience, and taking into consideration the fact that we've survived everything levelled at us so far by adapting and indeed learning, I believe the facts show that's not true.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 00:30:00 -
[34]
Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 01/11/2007 00:32:10
To clarify:
Omerta Syndicate is not directly a -member- of either the Angel Cartel or the Serpentis. However, we are working with, and, in some degree, on behalf of, the Cartel. The Cartel works with and defends assets of the Serpentis, whose interests Cyrene has helped harm. We are moving to collect the debt on behalf of the Angels on behalf of the Serpentis. The carrier in question will be employed as we see fit for the defense of Angel and Serpentis assets and interests.
We are operating on behalf of the Angels without claiming membership; we have no status as such within the Cartel, but rather a working relationship. We are not vassals, but associates. Our connection to the Angels is, in the finest traditions of such organizations throughout history, strictly business, as is the forthcoming war with CYI.
On a personal note, while this war has nothing to do with my own views, I nevertheless take a great deal of satisfaction in this declaration and look forward to taking a great deal more.
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Souvera Corvus
Gallente
Lutin Group
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Posted - 2007.11.01 00:34:00 -
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Cloudy logic, extortionate demands, the typical unfounded slander from APEX regarding people's propensity to leave the safety of the station........
This has all the ingredients of a classic.
I guess its time for this Intaki to head home.
Here's to honour in conflict. |
Verone
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Posted - 2007.11.01 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda
To alleviate this concern and be the instrument of revenge we are most delighted.
Instrument defines tool, a tool is wielded by someone who wishes to use it for a purpose.
Originally by: Aria Jenneth
However, we are working with, and, in some degree, on behalf of, the Cartel. The Cartel works with and defends assets of the Serpentis, whose interests Cyrene has helped harm. We are moving to collect the debt on behalf of the Angels on behalf of the Serpentis.
Originally by: Yuki Li
I assure you this is certainly not a case of jump and how high.
Originally by: Yuki Li
Omerta Syndicate will never be a dog with a master,
I'm still getting mixed signals here...
>>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 00:41:00 -
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They're scarcely mixed.
You've got your business partnerships, and then you've got your master-servant relationships. This is the former.
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GoGo Yubari
PAK
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Posted - 2007.11.01 00:41:00 -
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It's interesting to note that Omerta Syndicate has decided to forge business links to the Angels and the Serpentis. I must say I likewise consider them amiable partners myself. This hardly means kneeling at their feet like an obediant slave. That's something a Gurista especially should understand.
But since I've obviously missed some relevant piece of news somewhere, I'd be interested to know how this war benefits the Angels and the Serpentis, however. The carrier is originally their's?
Love by nature. Live by luck. Kill by profession. |
Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: Kyoko Sakoda on 01/11/2007 00:46:39
Originally by: Drethon
Originally by: Laerise
Sheep fighting Sheep, sounds like Scrapie to me.
I don't see why Omerta doesn't want to play with these people, I mean just the humorous quotes you get from them...
We have before. It's simply your turn.
Originally by: Verone
I'm confused...
You say you don't work for them, yet clearly you're in DED monitored space, doing work that benefits them if it's a success.
You claim that you don't work for them, yet you say that this is business, and that Serpentis would like to see a debt paid?
If you're in empire, working towards seeing a debt paid to the Serpentis, then how in effect can you not be working for, and alongside them?
Ethan, I'm hoping that this doesn't cause a rift in our rather cordial relationship with you and yours, especially considering many former Omerta are now residing under the Guristas bloc. I myself was a Gurista for some months, before I came to realize it wasn't my path, but I will not go into any detail about that. I have the utmost respect for you and the faction you represent, even if I have taken a liking to the Cartel and the Serpentis. I'll try to clarify this.
Omerta has not bowed to anyone since we've lost our Palermo home. Knowing Mr. Zaitsev I don't believe he ever intends for us to associate fully with any factional power bloc in the cluster. Now, in the search for greater profit, it makes no sense to keep your corporation isolated. You need relationships with others to thrive. Take, for instance, our time in Fountain with our allies Exuro Mortis. The Syndicate would never have acquired a whole outpost for our own use had we not friends.
In Fountain, we worked with Exuro Mortis, not for them. To say we work for anyone implies we work below them without equal benefit to ourselves.
Our working relationship with the Angel Cartel (I might add, other than our contact with Coreli and some of the agents, our business with the Serpentis is limited in comparison) is mutually beneficial. At this time it isn't wise for us to disclose what we get out of this deal, but I assure you we are after something for ourselves, and are not simply jumping to the aid of the Cartel and the Serpentis because we like their agents.
We work with them because it is quite a good deal for both parties.
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Verone
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Posted - 2007.11.01 00:42:00 -
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A strange state of affairs.
It's saddening to see O-SYN's membership in such a state of disarray.
>>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 00:53:00 -
[41]
Mm-hm.
Verone, you're cleverer than this. Please don't pretend otherwise.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: GoGo Yubari
But since I've obviously missed some relevant piece of news somewhere, I'd be interested to know how this war benefits the Angels and the Serpentis, however. The carrier is originally their's?
Yes. Here is one of the more circulated news articles on the Serpentis Corporation's loss.
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Jean Controleur
Gallente
Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2007.11.01 01:03:00 -
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Well. Come on then you fine dandys, so proud, so*****sure, prancing about with your big ships. Come and get me us we say, let us give you a wiff of the old smartbombs! We're a grim bloody bunch, with an unhappy end!
We'll fight for Placid, and we'll fight to defend our people against the likes of you who would hurt them for mere profit!
note: The views of Jean Controleur (me) do not represent the views of Placid Reborn in any form or way, and anything Jean Controleur (me) says should not be interpretted to be official policy, ideas, |
Verone
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Posted - 2007.11.01 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Aria Jenneth
Mm-hm.
Verone, you're cleverer than this. Please don't pretend otherwise.
I have no issue with attempting to find out about a corporation in which friends I value reside.
If I'm give multiple answers that contradict eachother, then obviously I'm going to pry deeper to see if a change in policy will affect relations with the corporation on business terms, as well as my personal relations with members.
I do however have an issue with effectively having my intelligence insulted.
Especially when I've made a strong attempt at remaining civil, regardless of my feelings for both the Angel Cartel and the Serpentis Corporation.
Again, like the conflict with Star Fraction, your mouth appears to be digging your corporation a hole.
Unfortunate, I'll adjust standings accordingly.
>>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
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Wrok
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.01 01:14:00 -
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Wish omerta the best of luck with this venture I foresee a good outcome in thier favor. have fun.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 01:21:00 -
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If you object so strenuously to having your intelligence complimented,I'm sure you'll do as you please. If I'm not mistaken, your decision to reset standings dates back to this post:
Originally by: Verone
Pff. Serpentis.
Unfortunate.
The Serpentis and Angels are competitors to your criminal organization of choice. Your reaction, like Izzy's, is unfortunate but somewhat predictable.
Your attempt to pin your already-visibly-made decision on me is simply rude.
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Taes Valkiir
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 01:22:00 -
[47]
The fact that the cluster still expects Omerta's motivations to be clear as glass is endlessly amusing to me. Silence is our by-word, for frack's sake. Get used to being confused, & get used to being shot at. This isn't that hard.
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Verone
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Posted - 2007.11.01 01:42:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Aria Jenneth
If I'm not mistaken, your decision to reset standings dates back to this post:
There were no standings to reset... Omerta, despite some quite personal friends of mine being in the ranks have always been neutral to us.
Originally by: Aria Jenneth
The Serpentis and Angels are competitors to your criminal organization of choice. Your reaction, like Izzy's, is unfortunate but somewhat predictable.
Our criminal organisation of choice? While we remain Gurista loyalists and act when called upon as a paramilitary force, our business practices are not tied to that of the Guristas.
We do not deal in narcotics on a corporate level in any way shape or form, so no... the Serpentis, and the Cartel are not our competitors.
They do however become competitors if Venal wishes us to aknowledge them as such.
Originally by: Aria Jenneth
Your attempt to pin your already-visibly-made decision on me is simply rude.
On the contrary. Your assumption, and another insult toward my persona is again something I'm shocked to see from an Omerta Syndicate member. I had in the past come to develop massive respect, and a firm-rooted friendship with members of O-SYN regardless of their loyalties.
Originally by: Taes Valkiir
Silence is our by-word, for frack's sake.
Then why beat your chests here and in The Summit FTL comms channel? Again, contradictory actions to your speech.
I'm starting to wonder if "Learn what it means to be Caldari" should be replaced.
Perhaps "Learn what it means to be Omerta" is more approporate. After several years, it appears this process is still incomplete.
Originally by: Taes Valkiir
Get used to being confused, & get used to being shot at. This isn't that hard.
Again, agression without provocation, and veiled threats via EveMail.
Very dissapointing from people whom we've shown no agression toward, and have regarded as friends for some time.
>>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
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Dairya
Naqam
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Posted - 2007.11.01 01:47:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Yuki Li
Our... friends lost a fully laden Thanatos, where that Thanatos is now, I don't concern myself with, however, they'd like to see a debt paid.
We believe that having the organisations involved provide us, Omerta Syndicate, with a Carrier, we achieve an end result of mutual benefit.
So it was a Thanatos? And not a Nyx?
That's an important point to be clear on, I think. Some people get them confused...
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Evanda Char
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.11.01 01:52:00 -
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A sincere question, as this thread is perhaps a little unclear in places.
How close are Omerta Syndicate to the Angel Cartel and the Serpentis now? You describe them as friends and are certainly acting in their interests in this case. Will there be more of this in future, or is this a one-off "contract"?
The Cartel are a prime enemy of the Republic so you can see my concern...
-Eva-
Electus Matari - taking it one bad guy at a time |
Taes Valkiir
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 02:07:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Taes Valkiir on 01/11/2007 02:07:15
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Taes Valkiir
Silence is our by-word, for frack's sake.
Then why beat your chests here and in The Summit FTL comms channel? Again, contradictory actions to your speech.
I'm starting to wonder if "Learn what it means to be Caldari" should be replaced.
Perhaps "Learn what it means to be Omerta" is more approporate. After several years, it appears this process is still incomplete.
This comms statement was a threat of war & a demand for payment, not an explanation to the cluster of the nuances of our motivations. We will chose when we keep our silence & when we break it.
If you feel your friendship & respect of our banner & its leadership earns you a more coherent explanation, there are better places to seek it than GalNet & the Summit.
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Taes Valkiir
Get used to being confused, & get used to being shot at. This isn't that hard.
Again, agression without provocation, and veiled threats via EveMail.
Very dissapointing from people whom we've shown no agression toward, and have regarded as friends for some time.
This, as well as the entirety of that previous communication, was addressed to the cluster as a whole, & was not a veiled threat to Veto. We're not that easily provoked.
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Imuri Tsugasa
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Posted - 2007.11.01 02:07:00 -
[52]
If this indeed be the collection of a debt, it is presumable that the rights to collect that debt have been transferred, assigned, or sold to Omerta Syndicate by some contract or instrument of transfer, whereby there is some return, in whole or in part, of the aforementioned debt to the Serpentis. I think the nagging question on any businessperson's mind at this point is how precisely Omerta's collection of this "debt" actually manages to repay the debt in any form, except in the case where the rights to collect were indeed sold rather than assigned, which has yet to be verified by any Serpentis authority.
As a point of curiosity, why do you insist this is a debt collection, after already admitting it is no more than extortion? The assets of the Serpentis and Angel Cartel are not affected upon remission of a carrier to Omerta Syndicate, thus begging the question:
If Omerta so desperately wants to add a carrier to their fleet, why not acquire it in a means that will not incur financial losses in the process?
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Verone
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Posted - 2007.11.01 02:17:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Taes Valkiir
...
What more can I expect than another incoherent set of contradictions.
It saddens me to see Omerta in such a confused state, and being used as a tool by a bunch of drugrunners.
Your leadership is strong though, I have a lot of faith they'll kick everyone back into line.
I'm sure until then you'll become a valuable play thing for the Sarpati Family.
I got the answer I was looking for, regardless of the hostility stacked against me.
I'm done with this "announcement", the best of luck to Omerta's leadership in defining some clear goals.
To Kyoko: If you'd like to talk, you know you can contact me. I think it'd probably be a good idea.
>>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 02:39:00 -
[54]
Ethan and Evanda, I'd like to discuss this with you further privately. I'm on assignment, but you know how to reach me. I will attempt to contact the both of you when I get the time, as well.
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Bruno Bonner
Gallente
Lutin Group
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Posted - 2007.11.01 02:44:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Dairya
So it was a Thanatos? And not a Nyx?
That's an important point to be clear on, I think. Some people get them confused...
Actually a Nyx was stolen from the Federation Navy by Serpentis operatives, aided in some degree by a number of capsuleers, which i do know nothing about.
The Thanatos was seized by Federation Customs (in particular the retired Inspector Xavier) to stop the shipment of the illegal substance known as RISE.
If you ask me, Serpentis still owes the Federation a couple of billions in comparison, but being the unreasonable outlaws they are.....it's clear there is no point arguing, right?
Bruno
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Leon 026
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.01 03:19:00 -
[56]
Since I won't be there to tango with you Valkiir, I hope that half-dead Amarrian cripple can keep up the pace... perhaps the Cyrene Initiative, Placid Reborn or Lutin Group have someone that knows how to dance.
- Leon
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Leon 026
Once I was fallen, now I have wings |
Nashime
Gallente
Lutin Group
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Posted - 2007.11.01 05:15:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Leon 026
Since I won't be there to tango with you Valkiir, I hope that half-dead Amarrian cripple can keep up the pace... perhaps the Cyrene Initiative, Placid Reborn or Lutin Group have someone that knows how to dance.
Well, I can't speak for the rest of Lutin, but I've been told I have a mean two-step. But really, I think I just step on a lot of toes.
I really wish they'd just call this what it is. They're obviously wanting attention, which they now have, and they're feeling hurt after their buddies lost their shiny carrier they stole. So they want revenge. See revenge is a nice honest feeling. I could respect that. I could even respect honest greed. But hey. They want to try and make this sound like some sort of business deal gone bad.
Oh well.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 06:34:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 01/11/2007 06:34:32
Nashime:
Revenge might be pleasant, but it's not -precisely- the point. Even if it is, an ordinary, uninteresting revenge is not half as enticing as a really nice revenge. Restitution for the damage CYI has helped do to the Serpentis might be revenge of a sort, but getting to destroy a carrier's value or two worth of ships and then getting the carrier would be much more proper.
As to certain earlier comments, what the score is between the Federation and the Serpentis, well, we as a group don't exactly have an interest in what the Federation has lost. We didn't cause the loss, after all. Future CYI losses, I might expect to be another matter.
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Amaron Ghant
Caldari
Ascent of Ages
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.01 06:46:00 -
[59]
Cyrene Initiative and that other bunch? Omena? Hard to see which group to root for really. At least they'll be dying on both sides....so.... a result I suppose.
The worst of luck to both sides, though please , copious war diaries.
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:06:00 -
[60]
Hey, it's good that you hired that debt collector guy to help you out then, eh?
Although I'd personally find these more entertaining if they were written by him.
No offense of course.
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Jonny Damordred
Stimulus
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Posted - 2007.11.01 08:46:00 -
[61]
The queue for looting the bloated and rotting wreck of CYI forms to the left. No cutting.
Love and Ganking,
Jonny D.
Director of Gunboat Diplomacy, Stimulus
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Dejhon Vanxler
Gallente
Lutin Group
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Posted - 2007.11.01 09:16:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Dejhon Vanxler on 01/11/2007 09:15:54
Well, this one I didnt expect. IÆm feeling loved though, in Eve itÆs a mark of how successful you are by who is trying to kill youàà
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Davlos
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.01 12:29:00 -
[63]
I have no desire to debate politics here.
All I can say, is to wish my former Family luck.
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*signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected])
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Drethon
Gallente
Lutin Group
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Posted - 2007.11.01 12:49:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Drethon on 01/11/2007 12:54:14
Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda
Edited by: Kyoko Sakoda on 01/11/2007 00:46:39
Originally by: Drethon
Originally by: Laerise
Sheep fighting Sheep, sounds like Scrapie to me.
I don't see why Omerta doesn't want to play with these people, I mean just the humorous quotes you get from them...
We have before. It's simply your turn.
Ah, most excellent, I'm honored by the attention, lets dance shall we?
"I may not believe in what you believe in but I will fight to the death to protect your right to believe." |
Maalan
Caldari
Lutin Group
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Posted - 2007.11.01 12:52:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Yuki Li
Edited by: Yuki Li on 31/10/2007 23:54:52
Let me clarify a couple of things.
Syrias, who ever she may be, is in no way associated with Omerta Syndicate, and should probably be put down, as she's clearly suffering some variety of mental illness.
As far as the Serpentis and Angels go, no, we don't work for them. Yes, we're connected. Omerta Syndicate is as always, in business, and as I said prior. This is business.
Our... friends lost a fully laden Thanatos, where that Thanatos is now, I don't concern myself with, however, they'd like to see a debt paid.
We believe that having the organisations involved provide us, Omerta Syndicate, with a Carrier, we achieve an end result of mutual benefit.
As mentioned, should the organisations choose to fight us instead, we can achieve our goals regardless. We'll just take our share from your wrecks.
May we also then discuss reparations for losses of minerals and ships (and a couple clones) due to your friends and other pirates have caused myself and others I know over the past few years?
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I built that ship you just went and got blown up...
((Until CCP admits what I look like please pretend my face looks normal)) |
Jack Malus
Gallente
The Graduates
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.01 13:47:00 -
[66]
I see the annual CYI pile-on is upon us once again where all the low lifes from the outer regions descend on Placid to rollback all the hard work CYI has made on keeping Placid safe.
I hope the other Federation defenders rally this time and put a stop to this nonsense.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.01 13:53:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 01/11/2007 13:53:35
I have a question.
Should CYI deliver the carrier to Omerta, will Omerta then be passing it on to the Angels, or will they keep it for themselves?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Thuul'Khalat
Gallente
Phoenix Wing
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.01 14:05:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 01/11/2007 13:53:35
I have a question.
Should CYI deliver the carrier to Omerta, will Omerta then be passing it on to the Angels, or will they keep it for themselves?
I think we can safely assume Omerta will be keeping it for themselves.
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Yuki Li
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 14:15:00 -
[69]
Yes, we'll be keeping the Carrier.
Maalan, if you, a capsuleer, needs to request reparations for losses taken in combat versus ships commanded by non-capsule personnel, then you need to re-evaluate your position, as you're clearly unfit to pilot.
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Thuul'Khalat
Gallente
Phoenix Wing
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.01 14:17:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Yuki Li
Yes, we'll be keeping the Carrier.
Rather silly to present it as repayment of debt to the Angels (who you according to yourself are not a part of) then would you not say?
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 14:34:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Thuul'Khalat
Originally by: Yuki Li
Yes, we'll be keeping the Carrier.
Rather silly to present it as repayment of debt to the Angels (who you according to yourself are not a part of) then would you not say?
I'm sure Guardian Angels and Serpentis are looking to humiliate. It's rather easy for such large factions to replace a loss like this.
However, I'd personally like to see the carrier go to the Serpentis, although it was not actually part of our deal with the Cartel.
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Yuki Li
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 14:42:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Thuul'Khalat
Originally by: Yuki Li
Yes, we'll be keeping the Carrier.
Rather silly to present it as repayment of debt to the Angels (who you according to yourself are not a part of) then would you not say?
We're not presenting anything. We get a carrier, and in doing so provide a measure of revenge for our business partners.
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Davion Vrynn
Caldari
Tsurokigaarai
APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 14:42:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Davion Vrynn on 01/11/2007 14:43:54
Originally by: Jack Malus
I see the annual CYI pile-on is upon us once again where all the low lifes from the outer regions descend on Placid to rollback all the hard work CYI has made on keeping Placid safe.
I hope the other Federation defenders rally this time and put a stop to this nonsense.
Let's not forget who started this whole little quagmire in the first place with their pointless wardec on a non-paramilitary alliance.
CYI started a fight and tried to back out when they realized they were in over their heads. It's no surprise that the sharks are smelling the blood in the water and looking to capitalize on the Initiative's weak position.
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Souvera Corvus
Gallente
Lutin Group
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Posted - 2007.11.01 15:03:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Yuki Li
Yes, we'll be keeping the Carrier.
Maalan, if you, a capsuleer, needs to request reparations for losses taken in combat versus ships commanded by non-capsule personnel, then you need to re-evaluate your position, as you're clearly unfit to pilot.
By extension then, instead of entering into an agreement to extort a carrier from CYI on behalf of your business partners, you should be questioning your business partners fitness to have a carrier to lose to CYI in the first place. They need to evaluate their position, they were clearly unfit to have it.
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Kura Accipter
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 15:11:00 -
[75]
Extension nothing, you have clearly let the point sail far above your head. Capsuleer and non-capsuleer forces compete on entirely different levels, hence our buisiness arrangement.
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Yuki Li
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 15:11:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Souvera Corvus
Originally by: Yuki Li
Yes, we'll be keeping the Carrier.
Maalan, if you, a capsuleer, needs to request reparations for losses taken in combat versus ships commanded by non-capsule personnel, then you need to re-evaluate your position, as you're clearly unfit to pilot.
By extension then, instead of entering into an agreement to extort a carrier from CYI on behalf of your business partners, you should be questioning your business partners fitness to have a carrier to lose to CYI in the first place. They need to evaluate their position, they were clearly unfit to have it.
We're all very bright today aren't we. What I was suggesting, was that for a capsuleer to lose battles with ships commanded by a captain incapable of entering a capsule, there must be a measure of incompetence involved.
Losing a non-capsule ship to capsuleers, or a capsule ship to capsuleers, is entirely different, and you seem to be somehow incapable of understanding that difference.
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Maalan
Caldari
Lutin Group
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Posted - 2007.11.01 15:17:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Yuki Li
Yes, we'll be keeping the Carrier.
Maalan, if you, a capsuleer, needs to request reparations for losses taken in combat versus ships commanded by non-capsule personnel, then you need to re-evaluate your position, as you're clearly unfit to pilot.
Who said I've ever taken a loss in a combat ship. I have not flown an Atron in a year and never flew anything with more firepower. Seen my sig lately? Some of the ships you face are the ones I built, that is my job.
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I built that ship you just went and got blown up...
((Until CCP admits what I look like please pretend my face looks normal)) |
Pezzle
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.01 15:18:00 -
[78]
So Omerta demands a carrier for themselves as payment for a slight to someone else. What does that have to do with honoring a friendship? I might as well ask the Gallente government for a Mothership as payment for crimes against my Caldari friends. This is simply a shakedown.
Kostantin, it is disappointing you are so willing to accept this. I had expected better.
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Kura Accipter
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 16:23:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Pezzle
So Omerta demands a carrier for themselves as payment for a slight to someone else. What does that have to do with honoring a friendship? I might as well ask the Gallente government for a Mothership as payment for crimes against my Caldari friends. This is simply a shakedown.
This is a punitive strike against meddlesome capsuleers interferring with the buisiness of our associates, with an easy way of avoiding loss of life and property. I fail to see how this is so hard to grasp for some people.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 16:47:00 -
[80]
I agree with my colleague; this is not difficult to understand.
We are operating on behalf of our associates. Concerns internal to that relationship belong only to us and those associates, and it should come as no surprise to anyone that the interests we serve are largely our own. To those with a stake in this, I would suggest you look to your own interests and cease worrying about ours. Either pay up, or, better still, don't.
Aria Jenneth
Hakase 016
Omerta Syndicate
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Amaron Ghant
Caldari
Ascent of Ages
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.01 17:16:00 -
[81]
It's a shake down. Nothing more, nothing less.
It doesn't matter how you dress it up, how you spin it, the words you twist. It's a shakedown.
This is exactly the same as a pirate locking your ship and demanding a payment to let you go.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong because frankly in the universe we live in those terms have lost any degree of seperation.
Omerta saw an easy target and then went for it. "Want" trumps "Right" every time it seems.
It's all good.
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Drethon
Gallente
Lutin Group
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Posted - 2007.11.01 17:27:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Drethon on 01/11/2007 17:27:34
Well, to every one on our side of the line, good hunting.
To everyone on the other side, fight with honor.
"I may not believe in what you believe in but I will fight to the death to protect your right to believe." |
Abraham Deturk
Gallente
Lutin Group
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Posted - 2007.11.01 18:38:00 -
[83]
Let the Battle Begin!
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety
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Evanda Char
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.11.01 19:08:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Evanda Char on 01/11/2007 19:08:24
Originally by: Maalan
May we also then discuss reparations for losses of minerals and ships (and a couple clones) due to your friends and other pirates have caused myself and others I know over the past few years?
Not to mention loss of face.
-Eva-
Electus Matari - taking it one bad guy at a time |
Vandamsel
Gallente
Dark Star LTD
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2007.11.01 21:46:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Karok Vilneram
CYI will dissapoint you. They stay holed up in stations. Then they say it is because of all the Stimulus with us. Yet when I am solo they still don't undock. I know my combat skills are reknown but I don't think my little Malediction was such a force to be reckoned with.
Good luck Omerta. Of course it is CYI that is in need of it.
 I'm so glad you guys wardec'ed us
SAVE THE EOS TOO!! |
Karok Vilneram
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 23:03:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Vandamsel
Originally by: Karok Vilneram
CYI will dissapoint you. They stay holed up in stations. Then they say it is because of all the Stimulus with us. Yet when I am solo they still don't undock. I know my combat skills are reknown but I don't think my little Malediction was such a force to be reckoned with.
Good luck Omerta. Of course it is CYI that is in need of it.
I'm so glad you guys wardec'ed us
Yes I am happy the Board of Directors chose that option as well. Now APEX and Stimulus can primary the same ship so it can go down twice as fast. Calling seperate targets was getting difficult to say the least.
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Vandamsel
Gallente
Dark Star LTD
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2007.11.02 08:57:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Vandamsel on 02/11/2007 08:59:42
Quote:
Now APEX and Stimulus can primary the same ship so it can go down twice as fast
Considering the skill difference between APEX and stimulus, I highly doubt that.
SAVE THE EOS TOO!! |
jdok
Gallente
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.11.02 19:06:00 -
[88]
there's trouble a brewin' .. Good luck Omerta.. not like you really need it though...
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Jon Engel
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.02 21:48:00 -
[89]
Im displeased to you attacking Placid Reborn. I will not be participating in any operation against Placid Reborn. That is my own personal decision and respect I have for old friends.
Other than that, welcome to the war.
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Rudy Metallo
Additional Pylons
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Posted - 2007.11.02 22:17:00 -
[90]
CYI has made Placid safe? I beg to differ. I have been operating in the area unhindered for quite some time now.
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We are the revolutionaries.
We are the usurpers of the heavenly throne.
We are the enemies of the Gods. |
Usagi Tsukino
APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.02 23:50:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Jon Engel
Im displeased to you attacking Placid Reborn. I will not be participating in any operation against Placid Reborn. That is my own personal decision and respect I have for old friends.
Other than that, welcome to the war.
While I cannot speak on behalf of the alliance, I can say this is the general attitude of the whole group. I personally encourage Omerta to reconsider this part of their declaration.
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Usagi Tsukino // Security Director
APEX Unlimited // Public Channel: APEXCOM |
Yuki Li
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.02 23:53:00 -
[92]
No.
Website Recruiting |
Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.03 00:30:00 -
[93]
As Placid Reborn had a hand in the capture of the carrier, we will see the war declaration through.
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Kostantin Mort
Amarr
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.05 13:43:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Pezzle
Kostantin, it is disappointing you are so willing to accept this. I had expected better.
On the contrary, I care little for the carrier. All I care about is killing a threat that is greater to the Empire than the terrorists will ever be. The heathen Gallente are dangerous and insidious and thus I relish the chance to kill them, no matter the occasion.
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Dei Gloria
"God is my shield and protector!" |
PiF
Gallente
TAKAGI Corp
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.05 21:25:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Kostantin Mort
All I care about is killing a threat that is greater to the Empire than the terrorists will ever be. The heathen Gallente are dangerous and insidious and thus I relish the chance to kill them, no matter the occasion.
Now that's something else.
Know something ? Sell it to the NeXus network |
Jonny Damordred
Stimulus
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Posted - 2007.11.05 21:29:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Kostantin Mort
Originally by: Pezzle
Kostantin, it is disappointing you are so willing to accept this. I had expected better.
On the contrary, I care little for the carrier. All I care about is killing a threat that is greater to the Empire than the terrorists will ever be. The heathen Gallente are dangerous and insidious and thus I relish the chance to kill them, no matter the occasion.
Aww! It seems you quickly forget all those quiet nights we spent together. 
With Love,
Jonny D.
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Drethon
Gallente
Lutin Group
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.05 22:08:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Kostantin Mort
Originally by: Pezzle
Kostantin, it is disappointing you are so willing to accept this. I had expected better.
On the contrary, I care little for the carrier. All I care about is killing a threat that is greater to the Empire than the terrorists will ever be. The heathen Gallente are dangerous and insidious and thus I relish the chance to kill them, no matter the occasion.
Didn't realize we were so terrifying, maybe I should run around in a monster costume...
"I may not believe in what you believe in but I will fight to the death to protect your right to believe." |
Kostantin Mort
Amarr
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.05 22:28:00 -
[98]
Please do so. I'll be able to recognise your corpse from the ones of your mindless compatriots.
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Dei Gloria
"God is my shield and protector!" |
Ripster40
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.11.06 00:19:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Ripster40 on 06/11/2007 00:19:48
heh, can't wait to see the fireworks go off. This is a show to remember, remind me to bring some snacks for the show.
Watching parasites killing each other is grand.
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Vokka Korrah
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Posted - 2007.11.06 18:41:00 -
[100]
As a pilot who only flips on the IGS comms channel from time to time, I can only imagine how frustrating it must be for the CYI yet again. It seems whenever they seem to take the upper hand in a war, the wardecs are piled upon them and they are beat down once again. The flimsy reasoning for such declarations are especially amusing, when the truth of personal friendships being the real reason is clearly evident. CYI you need more powerful friends and influence, that is for sure.
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Yuki Li
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.07 01:18:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Vokka Korrah
As a pilot who only flips on the IGS comms channel from time to time, I can only imagine how frustrating it must be for the CYI yet again. It seems whenever they seem to take the upper hand in a war, the wardecs are piled upon them and they are beat down once again. The flimsy reasoning for such declarations are especially amusing, when the truth of personal friendships being the real reason is clearly evident. CYI you need more powerful friends and influence, that is for sure.
Clearly you've seen straight through our intricate web of deceit and arrived at the true source of our reasoning for war.
Or maybe you're just not very bright.
It could be one or the other, really, I'd rather not tax myself such things so I'll just presume that you're correct. If only I'd seen through my own plan sooner, maybe we could have avoided all this horrible violence.
Damn you, Omerta Syndicate, you've fooled me again.
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Souvera Corvus
Gallente
Lutin Group
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.07 03:09:00 -
[102]
Nothing particularly intricate about extortion.
"What care we of the tarnish thrown upon us by those we wipe our feet upon?" |
Taes Valkiir
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.07 06:17:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Souvera Corvus
Nothing particularly intricate about extortion.
We kept it nice & simple so you'd understand. You can thank us later; preferably with a Thanatos.
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Souvera Corvus
Gallente
Lutin Group
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.07 06:33:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Taes Valkiir
Originally by: Souvera Corvus
Nothing particularly intricate about extortion.
We kept it nice & simple so you'd understand. You can thank us later; preferably with a Thanatos.
Typically gracious of you Taes.
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Cpt Constantinus
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.07 11:13:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Kostantin Mort
Originally by: Pezzle
Kostantin, it is disappointing you are so willing to accept this. I had expected better.
On the contrary, I care little for the carrier. All I care about is killing a threat that is greater to the Empire than the terrorists will ever be. The heathen Gallente are dangerous and insidious and thus I relish the chance to kill them, no matter the occasion.
Killing the godless gallente scum is always a worthy endavour.
God luck to you Konstantin.
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Sui Gintou
Naqam
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Posted - 2007.11.07 14:51:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Kostantin Mort
The heathen Gallente are dangerous and insidious and thus I relish the chance to kill them, no matter the occasion.
The only good Gallente are an enslaved Gallente. Only through true enslavement can they find the true words of The Master.
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Teylor Malise
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.07 22:16:00 -
[107]
Extortion, even in this day and age greed and stupidity is still rampant in our fair galaxy.
Teylor quietly adjusted his hood
Please..Die in the holy flames of my cannons.
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Drethon
Gallente
Lutin Group
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.07 23:32:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Teylor Malise
Extortion, even in this day and age greed and stupidity is still rampant in our fair galaxy.
Teylor quietly adjusted his hood
Even though I may never agree fully with the Amarr perspective, they are not without their wisdom.
"I may not believe in what you believe in but I will fight to the death to protect your right to believe." |
Vokka Korrah
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Posted - 2007.11.10 04:47:00 -
[109]
It is the timing of this "debt collection" that is particularily amusing. Is it merely a coincidence Omerta is demanding this now, while CYI is already engaged in a war? I don't think so.
There are two possibilities as to why Omerta has chosen this particular time to declare war. Either they have been called in to help Apex because the war wasn't going their way, or Omerta is militarily insecure and this is a time of opportunity to extort CYI.
I do enjoy keeping up with the IGS communications and seeing how events unfold. It is somewhat insulting to the intelligence however, when we are expected to believe some of these pathetic motives for entering a war (such as this one). It should be clear to anyone who even just skimmed the Apex/CYI news communications that this whole "debt collection" is a weak excuse for jumping into an active war. Omerta has been very vocal early on in this war as to whose side they were on.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.10 06:08:00 -
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Omerta has not been in one joint fleet with APEX or Stimulus this entire war. We don't intend to be, either. Omerta has its own agenda.
Also, if anyone wants to prove we're militarily insecure, I invite them to declare war on us. Please. Firing blasters is much more exciting than paperwork.
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Tyr Cloudstone
Gallente
Phoenix Wing
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.10 08:54:00 -
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Actually i'm going to have to step in here and say soemthing.
For folks who don't coordinate in joint fleet operations you have an uncanny ability to show up at the same time and kill things rather well. we have numeous losses to joint groups of Apex, Omerta and Stimulus. Now i don't mind all the action and i'm certainly not cryign otu for sympathy here but please don't be lying to the general populace about the situation here. Yourselves, Apex and Stimulus do co-ordinate in your strikes on Acheron Federation. I don't see anything Strategically wrong with it from any point of view. You have a common enemy and it serves your purpose to join forces to take that enemy out. Don't try tooting your own horn and denying it when you only have to look at a killbaord to see it's not true.
See you in space i look forwrad to more engagements
Tyr Cloudstone
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Bruno Bonner
Gallente
Lutin Group
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.10 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: Bruno Bonner on 10/11/2007 13:12:09
Miss Sakoda
Here is a very strange occurrence then
As it shows APEX, Stimulus and Omerta attacking the same target. I am not accusing omerta of coordinating with the other parties involved in this war, but this record looks awfully suspicious don't you think?
Bruno
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Karl Schmidt
Caldari
Tsurokigaarai
APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.10 13:42:00 -
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Just because there is an Omerta guy on one of our killmails, does not mean that we are coordinating with them.
Remember, all 3 groups are fighting CYI/AF, so it is very possible that scouts from Omerta may stumble on us shooting people up, or the other way round. Hell, if I was out and about and I saw one of my enemies getting ganked by someone else, I'd probably put a few rounds in myself... wouldn't you?
As a member of APEX, I have seen no active coordination between Omerta and ourselves. Their doing their thing, we're doing ours. But like I said, same enemy, same area, so decent chance of getting to a target at roughly the same time. Hell, there has been incidences where we've gone out to break up a camp/pounce on a fleet and have turned up moments after Omerta have finished them, and vice versa. Its just timing... scouts haven't relayed info fast enough, or fleet movement took too long, or the enemy moved... all these factor in.
But like I said earlier, I have seen no active coordination between them and us.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.10 17:13:00 -
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With three corporations running around Placid looking for the same targets, pilots from the corps are bound to converge at one time or another. I cannot speak for individual pilots, however. Perhaps one or two Omertan vessels joined a fleet at one point or another, but we have not as of yet merged a Syndicate fleet into a Stimulus fleet, APEX fleet, vice versa, or any combination. We don't intend to participate in joint ops, but if things change, we'll be sure to be honest about it.
The reason this was brought up was not so that we may beat our chests but to make the lines between the motivations clear. I don't necessarily see anything wrong with flying in the odd joint fleet for a specific purpose, but it isn't currently how we operate. Our concerns are separate from the rest and our fleet will be too, at least presently.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.10 18:53:00 -
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We move around a lot and tend to take opportunities to kill targets when they appear. If this means sharing a kill with APEX and Stimulus, so be it. They are in this war, after all. We're not on the same side, but neither are we hostile towards one another. Thus, if we happen to show up at the same gate, shooting at the same target, there's really no reason for either side to step aside and say, "Oops, sorry; we didn't realize that one was yours."
Our common cause starts and ends with wanting you, or, rather, your clones dead as often as possible.
As for Omerta's alleged stance at the start of this war, I did indeed support APEX against CYI. I'm a former APEX pilot myself, and I've got a lot of old friends there. At the start of this war, I considered them a good balance to CAIN in the Caldari loyalist camp. What I think of them now will depend largely on what friends they choose for themselves; Verone and Naphtalia have been very outspoken in supporting APEX, and those two and their fleets are scarcely friends to the State, or of the Cartel, being openly hostile to the former and loyal to the latter's Gurista competitors.
My comments, views, and record are my own, and I don't speak with Omerta's voice . Anyone familiar with Omerta's posting history should realize that we've flown with everything from Amarr loyalists to anarchists to elements of Sansha's Nation, and that Syndicate members' comments tend to reflect that heterogeneous nature. I happen to be the strongest, or perhaps merely the most strident, State supporter in Omerta's ranks, though certain of my views might be considered those of a jaalan dissident back at home.
So, yes, I supported APEX, and take immense satisfaction in the work we are doing, particularly following the addition of Acheron Federation to the conflict. I'm under no illusion that I'm doing this for the State, but what hurts the Federation is likely, at least, to reduce your ability to meddle in State affairs. That's not my primary reason for involvement, but it makes a nice bonus.
CAIN was far too gentle with you, Acheron. I'll see you in space.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.12 14:26:00 -
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As the Omerta pilot in question in that killmail, let me comment upon the kill. I had been patrolling, solo, for some time before coming across Acheron forces in Tourier. After observing the enemy, and discovering the station they based out of, I waited to see if one would appear. When the Acheron Celestis appeared at the station, I attempted to attack it, but was unable to get within warp disruptor range before it warped. Pursuing the Celestis, I followed it to a gate, locked it, and destroyed it. It was only afterwards that I realized there were Stimulus and APEX forces there attempting to destroy it, as well.
I realize that this is a case of my word against Bonner-haans. I really have nothing to offer other than my statement of the facts and perceptions as they happened. All the same, I feel that it is important to speak up and make clear the circumstances behind the questioned kill.
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Jonny Damordred
Stimulus
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Posted - 2007.11.12 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi
As the Omerta pilot in question in that killmail, let me comment upon the kill. I had been patrolling, solo, for some time before coming across Acheron forces in Tourier. After observing the enemy, and discovering the station they based out of, I waited to see if one would appear. When the Acheron Celestis appeared at the station, I attempted to attack it, but was unable to get within warp disruptor range before it warped. Pursuing the Celestis, I followed it to a gate, locked it, and destroyed it. It was only afterwards that I realized there were Stimulus and APEX forces there attempting to destroy it, as well.
This is all true, but, one wonders, who cares?
(well, beyond me being able to see my dear Shintoko doing what she does best, that is )
Love and Ganking,
Jonny D.
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