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Ethino Ministry of War Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.01.27 22:35:00 - [31] - Quote "Im sure many posters will flame u as an incursion carebare sympathiser but tbh pulling in isk enough to fund 1 or 2 characters properly especially for PVP fun takes a good deal of effort, especially if ur trying to continue the characters with isk bought PLEX. Yes there will be people who abuse any game system set in place, its just something that happens. i think vanguards are overpriced for what they are... so some rebalancing is required... effort vs reward needs to be well managed. I would say at the moment that currently in a perfect world incursions get u more reliable isk return for your time than plexing/ratting or anoms. this may seem like an argument for an incursion nerf across the board bt you have to consider that a total incursion nerf will nerf the income of new and semi new players more than the mid term and vets, meaning a tougher time for them (and less new player growth for eve) "
Valei Khurelem 239	Posted - 2012.01.27 22:35:00 - [32] - Quote Quote: Ask anyone who plays any sport professionally or semi professionally or on a team. Hell ask any Poker or Pool Player. Some Games require dedication and time to get good at them. This is one of those games. And as we all know, overpaid professional gamers are the role models and morally superior to any of us in any way imaginable, what world do you live in exactly? Candy land? Quote: you're given the tools and you do whatever you want to do with them. that's how sandboxes are. Anyone who actually plays this game knows that the majority of the tools we're given for this sandbox either suck like exhumers, are completely imbalanced like tech 2's, are broken like public labs, or they have ridiculous timesinks on them like mission running. The only thing that actually works properly in this game as it should is the star map and planetary management but don't go telling me that in planetary management I am supposed to wait three minutes before I can even transfer anything from the storage to anywhere else, that's just poor game design. If CCP introduced a patch that made you wait a minute before you could move one stack of stuff from your cargo hold to you items bay everyone would be up in arms about it including you I suspect. There's a time when 'realism' just doesn't work in games and this is it, big time. "don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium
Lyron-Baktos Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle 35	Posted - 2012.01.27 22:41:00 - [33] - Quote Getting isk is easy if you live in high-sec and enjoy missions/ratting for hours upon hours Getting isk is easy if you already have the skills and big ships to quickly hop in an incursion Getting isk is easy if you have multiple accounts you can use Getting isk is hard if you are a new toon that only wants to pvp On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton. -áWhere the dripping patchouli was more than scent. -á It was a sun
Zirse Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 223	Posted - 2012.01.27 23:02:00 - [34] - Quote Valei Khurelem wrote: No, there shouldn't, because basically you're just saying "I want fun for everyone else but me and I don't give a **** about them even though they're paying for the subscription fees and CCP servers the same as everyone else" you are honestly just plainly stupid if you actually think that in a game of all things you should be rewarded for 'working' when it is supposed to be a pass time and something fun you do. If EVE rewards hard work, I want my paycheck. It is essentially this line of thinking that ruins every MMO where the developers eventually cave to this line of reasoning. The competitive players move on thanks to 'welfare epics' and the game begins a slow decline into mediocrity.
Alpheias Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard 431	Posted - 2012.01.27 23:18:00 - [35] - Quote Valei Khurelem wrote: If EVE rewards hard work, I want my paycheck. EVE already rewards you for your hard work, you get to post on the forums. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 219	Posted - 2012.01.27 23:44:00 - [36] - Quote Ethino wrote: Just finished reading this article on evenews24 and i have to say that it's 100% true. Even if new players want to get into this game is pretty damn harsh to establish yourself into the game without pulling 1-2 plexes from the beginning. Balls.
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 2986	Posted - 2012.01.27 23:44:00 - [37] - Quote I started this game with nothing! Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 4578	Posted - 2012.01.27 23:47:00 - [38] - Quote Anyway, the reality of it is that the Czechs aren't all that different from the Slovaks. /ducks GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs.
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 2986	Posted - 2012.01.27 23:47:00 - [39] - Quote Tippia wrote: Anyway, the reality of it is that the Czechs aren't all that different from the Slovaks. /ducks Thought it was german? /ducks Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 222	Posted - 2012.01.27 23:54:00 - [40] - Quote Valei Khurelem wrote: If EVE rewards hard work, I want my paycheck. Hmm earn it like everyone else?
Cryten Jones Advantage Inc The Matari Consortium 57	Posted - 2012.01.27 23:58:00 - [41] - Quote Valei Khurelem wrote: Obsidian Hawk wrote: in other news people still want instant gratification and dont want to work hard like the bitter vets. *IT'S A GAME* YOU MORON! WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO WORK HARD IN A GAME?! Because the challenge IS the game!!..... you moron !**
J Kunjeh 347	Posted - 2012.01.28 00:15:00 - [42] - Quote Ethino wrote: Just finished reading this article on evenews24 and i have to say that it's 100% true. Even if new players want to get into this game is pretty damn harsh to establish yourself into the game without pulling 1-2 plexes from the beginning. [url]http://www.evenews24.com/2012/01/27/jesters-trek-strangled-in-the-crib/[/url] Just wanted to point out that EN24 didn't write that article (I'm not saying they claimed to, just wanted to make sure peeps here knew that it came from THE most important Eve blog out there: Jester's Trek). "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á
foxnod BOAE INC GIANTSBANE. 3	Posted - 2012.01.28 01:04:00 - [43] - Quote Is it just me or does it seem like there's more of an entitlement mentality since CCP got rid of the learning skills?
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service 71	Posted - 2012.01.28 01:23:00 - [44] - Quote Zirse wrote: Valei Khurelem wrote: No, there shouldn't, because basically you're just saying "I want fun for everyone else but me and I don't give a **** about them even though they're paying for the subscription fees and CCP servers the same as everyone else" you are honestly just plainly stupid if you actually think that in a game of all things you should be rewarded for 'working' when it is supposed to be a pass time and something fun you do. If EVE rewards hard work, I want my paycheck. It is essentially this line of thinking that ruins every MMO where the developers eventually cave to this line of reasoning. The competitive players move on thanks to 'welfare epics' and the game begins a slow decline into mediocrity. And I get bashed when I say that carebears aren't passionate about the game as a whole... LOL! +1 Zirse
Mara Rinn Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium 928	Posted - 2012.01.28 01:54:00 - [45] - Quote Ethino wrote: Just finished reading this article on evenews24 and i have to say that it's true. While Jester's article is accurate when talking about one approach to playing one style of gameplay in EVE, it in no way represents the game as a whole. Only boring people get bored my mother used to say. Here are some ideas for people who are lacking in inspiration and think that EVE is only about flying super caps in null sec: First, check out St Mio's chart of things to do in EVE Online, and Akita T's Making ISK guide in the EVElopedia. My partner is starting EVE on a 60 day trial and is already at the point with her simple arbitrage hauling effort that she is making another 5M ISK a day or so, and is still playing on a trial. That is: no hauler, no science skills, no planetary interaction. She has no interest in blowing things up in space (yet). Jester's blog post is like someone stating that swimming is boring, so they don't see any hope for the Olympics.
Ethino Ministry of War Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.01.28 02:25:00 - [46] - Quote Well my opinion on this is that if EvE wants to "attract" new revenue they might start doing some tweaks here and there just to give some common sense not just attract players with the hi fidelity char models. Like here you created a new account, here is your Rubik's Cube now **** off.
Xearal SOL Industries Black Thorne Alliance 250	Posted - 2012.01.28 02:34:00 - [47] - Quote Lol OP. Seriously.. getting money in this game isn't all that hard. And while a new player can be a bit overwhelmed with things, if they join a good corp with people that will teach them the ropes, then things are fine. You do NOT need all of those fancy ships you're talking about. A newbie in a rifter is a scary prospect if he knows what he's doing, especially if he has 20 veteran friends with him. A Drake will do level 4s just fine if you really want ot mission. A cane or drake works fine in incursions until you can afford a shinier ship for it. Learning how to be self sufficient and make money in Eve is something that every player should learn early on. Finding somethign they like doing and makes money which pays for further advancements and projects they want to undertake. As for 100M in 100 days.. that's bloody easy. I made my first billion in my first month, 6 months later, I had an income of several hundred million a month. Nowadays it's close to 2B and soon expanding upwards to 3-4B when my next project starts up.
Dbars Grinding Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 340	Posted - 2012.01.28 02:45:00 - [48] - Quote I spent way to long ninja salvaging l4s in dodixie when i first started. I also twitch a little every time i see a salvager.
met worst Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 102	Posted - 2012.01.28 02:47:00 - [49] - Quote Valei Khurelem wrote: Obsidian Hawk wrote: in other news people still want instant gratification and dont want to work hard like the bitter vets. *IT'S A GAME* YOU MORON! WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO WORK HARD IN A GAME?!** Wha???!! It's a GAME???!!!! So why am I working so hard???!!!!
2bhammered Perkone Caldari State 10	Posted - 2012.01.28 03:14:00 - [50] - Quote Obsidian Hawk wrote: in other news people still want instant gratification and dont want to work hard like the bitter vets. I am a vet and I am bitter, I wish was I noob with a game offering me instant gratification, if only
foxnod BOAE INC GIANTSBANE. 3	Posted - 2012.01.28 03:19:00 - [51] - Quote 2bhammered wrote: Obsidian Hawk wrote: in other news people still want instant gratification and dont want to work hard like the bitter vets. I am a vet and I am bitter, I wish was I noob with a game offering me instant gratification, if only Yes, let's make eve just like the other 397,268 MMO's that do the instant gratification thingy. Oh wait; that would run off it's core customer base and they'd close the servers in 3 months tops. I have a better idea. All the whiney children go play one of the thousands of other games that cater to their ADD mentality.
2bhammered Perkone Caldari State 10	Posted - 2012.01.28 03:24:00 - [52] - Quote foxnod wrote: 2bhammered wrote: Obsidian Hawk wrote: in other news people still want instant gratification and dont want to work hard like the bitter vets. I am a vet and I am bitter, I wish was I noob with a game offering me instant gratification, if only Yes, let's make eve just like the other 397,268 MMO's that do the instant gratification thingy. Oh wait; that would run off it's core customer base and they'd close the servers in 3 months tops. I have a better idea. All the whiney children go play one of the thousands of other games that cater to their ADD mentality. I agree with you, of course. I am just bitter because eve takes it to the extreme sometimes. Playing on a weekend for half a day to hopefully if lucky get into a pvp fight by zerging or getting blobbed gets old, back in 2006 pvp was better. Can't put my finger on why, but eve is a lot more boring today than back in the day. Perhaps it is because I am a bitter old vet, who knows, but even after +years break this game is still old and seem to head to worse places. Maybe it also makes it worse by the fact that my SP and other peoples SP is too much today. The gapis too great. Same with the ISK gap. All MMO's seem to suffer when they become old, or too old. Same with WoW and others.
foxnod BOAE INC GIANTSBANE. 3	Posted - 2012.01.28 03:43:00 - [53] - Quote 2bhammered wrote: foxnod wrote: 2bhammered wrote: Obsidian Hawk wrote: in other news people still want instant gratification and dont want to work hard like the bitter vets. I am a vet and I am bitter, I wish was I noob with a game offering me instant gratification, if only Yes, let's make eve just like the other 397,268 MMO's that do the instant gratification thingy. Oh wait; that would run off it's core customer base and they'd close the servers in 3 months tops. I have a better idea. All the whiney children go play one of the thousands of other games that cater to their ADD mentality. I agree with you, of course. I am just bitter because eve takes it to the extreme sometimes. Playing on a weekend for half a day to hopefully if lucky get into a pvp fight by zerging or getting blobbed gets old, back in 2006 pvp was better. Can't put my finger on why, but eve is a lot more boring today than back in the day. Perhaps it is because I am a bitter old vet, who knows, but even after +years break this game is still old and seem to head to worse places. Maybe it also makes it worse by the fact that my SP and other peoples SP is too much today. The gapis too great. Same with the ISK gap. All MMO's seem to suffer when they become old, or too old. Same with WoW and others. I would disagree about the SP issue. I just spent a 10 month stint in highsec. What I saw in there was new players asking about pvp/nullsec/lowsec and being told by the all the washouts that..... 1. You need 50mil SP to compete 2. That you'd be a slave to some RMT overlord 3. That it takes billions of ISK to compete in any form of PVP The washouts from null/lowsec are the ones who are causing these problems and they should've been run out of EVE years ago. We've brought in newer players into our alliance and they work fine. The number one thing in EVE is attitude. If you have a rotten attitude then you'll never go anywhere; if you have a good attitude you'll be able to get into 70% of corps alliances in your first year.
Weeble Tauri Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 0	Posted - 2012.01.28 05:25:00 - [54] - Quote This is my first EVE character. I have never bought a PLEX for ISK, and within 3 months I was funding this, and another character, by buying PLEX in game. Did I do it wrong?
2bhammered Perkone Caldari State 12	Posted - 2012.01.28 05:31:00 - [55] - Quote foxnod wrote: 2bhammered wrote: foxnod wrote: 2bhammered wrote: Obsidian Hawk wrote: in other news people still want instant gratification and dont want to work hard like the bitter vets. I am a vet and I am bitter, I wish was I noob with a game offering me instant gratification, if only Yes, let's make eve just like the other 397,268 MMO's that do the instant gratification thingy. Oh wait; that would run off it's core customer base and they'd close the servers in 3 months tops. I have a better idea. All the whiney children go play one of the thousands of other games that cater to their ADD mentality. I agree with you, of course. I am just bitter because eve takes it to the extreme sometimes. Playing on a weekend for half a day to hopefully if lucky get into a pvp fight by zerging or getting blobbed gets old, back in 2006 pvp was better. Can't put my finger on why, but eve is a lot more boring today than back in the day. Perhaps it is because I am a bitter old vet, who knows, but even after +years break this game is still old and seem to head to worse places. Maybe it also makes it worse by the fact that my SP and other peoples SP is too much today. The gapis too great. Same with the ISK gap. All MMO's seem to suffer when they become old, or too old. Same with WoW and others. I would disagree about the SP issue. I just spent a 10 month stint in highsec. What I saw in there was new players asking about pvp/nullsec/lowsec and being told by the all the washouts that..... 1. You need 50mil SP to compete 2. That you'd be a slave to some RMT overlord 3. That it takes billions of ISK to compete in any form of PVP The washouts from null/lowsec are the ones who are causing these problems and they should've been run out of EVE years ago. We've brought in newer players into our alliance and they work fine. The number one thing in EVE is attitude. If you have a rotten attitude then you'll never go anywhere; if you have a good attitude you'll be able to get into 70% of corps alliances in your first year. I use to say the same thing you do, tout the same like, preach the same **** 5 years ago... heck I started pvp and was a pirate starting at 500k SP back then and ended up partaking in first titan being built etc. Great stuff, all you need is attitude, and you know what? I think I was right, back in 06, today? no! The gaps can and do become too extreme at some point, I think that line was crossed in 2010. Just look at number of fights, ships used and who has sovereignity.
2bhammered Perkone Caldari State 12	Posted - 2012.01.28 05:32:00 - [56] - Quote Weeble Tauri wrote: This is my first EVE character. I have never bought a PLEX for ISK, and within 3 months I was funding this, and another character, by buying PLEX in game. Did I do it wrong? No you did it right and smart. Grats, now tell me if it was worth it?
Valei Khurelem 242	Posted - 2012.01.28 09:48:00 - [57] - Quote Quote: Because the challenge IS the game!!..... you moron ! Please learn to write coherently if you're going to try being clever and use block/bolded capitals. "don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium
KrakizBad Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension 319	Posted - 2012.01.28 09:52:00 - [58] - Quote Valei Khurelem wrote: Quote: Because the challenge IS the game!!..... you moron ! Please learn to write coherently if you're going to try being clever and use block/bolded capitals. Quoted for idiotic irony. http://i.imgur.com/cOmMP.gif
Valei Khurelem 242	Posted - 2012.01.28 09:54:00 - [59] - Quote KrakizBad wrote: Valei Khurelem wrote: Quote: Because the challenge IS the game!!..... you moron ! Please learn to write coherently if you're going to try being clever and use block/bolded capitals. Quoted for idiotic irony. Quoted for rabid stupidity. "don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium
Asuka Solo Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises 1141	Posted - 2012.01.28 10:10:00 - [60] - Quote If you want to throw away isk for fun, you won' t have any isk to have any fun with. We all had to struggle for many years to become wealthy space broskies with more isk than common sense or need for it. If it was good enough for us, its good enough for the rest of you space poor hobos.

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