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Agetec Core
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Posted - 2007.11.04 05:33:00 -
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Edited by: Agetec Core on 04/11/2007 05:35:31 How to pronounce it? I think it should be Tree - Mark But a friend says that its Try - Mark
His logic - When Tri is added in front of a word, it becomes Try. Like Tricycle. But in Tricycle's case, a Cycle is like a coating word for what it means. Like Bicycle and unicycles where cycle represents the center design.
My logic - Trio. - > Tree- Oh I dont think trimark is 2 words becasue while mark may be a world on its own, its inherent definition dosetn apply here so mark takes on a whole nother meaning thus instead of TryMark, it should be TreeMark much as how you cant seperate the Tri from Trio
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Agetec Core
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Posted - 2007.11.04 05:37:00 -
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Also, the same guy said that Quafe is pronouced K-uaf. Whereas I say it sounds like Kua-fee.
This is becasue Quafee seems to be a pardoy of Coffee. Quafe. Coffee. Get it?
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.04 05:43:00 -
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I say it's Try-Mark and Kway-f. ---
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.11.04 05:49:00 -
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Originally by: cal nereus I say it's Try-Mark and Kway-f.
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Jurgen Cartis
Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
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Posted - 2007.11.04 05:52:00 -
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Definitely seeing Try-mark, with the short i. -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth |
Kiviar
Caldari Vice-Presidential Action Rangers
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Posted - 2007.11.04 06:07:00 -
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Well to Quaff (kwŏf) is to drink something with great enjoyment. I imagine Quafe is just a play on that seldom used word. ---
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.11.04 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: cal nereus I say it's Try-Mark and Kway-f.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.11.04 06:42:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 04/11/2007 06:45:10
The good think about Romanian is that you speak the way you spell, and you spell the way you speak it. So, for better or worse, whenever we talk about EVE items, we usually call them exactly as spelled. So... if reading as you spell in English, that would be... "Trimark"->"treemark" and "Quaffe" would be "q.-ah-fe" or somesuch. Well, ok, we still call the drake a "drake" not "draaik-eeh" or however you'd spell it phonetically. _
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.11.04 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: Agetec Core How to pronounce "TRIMARK"
Pronunciation: "I tank better than U"
Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.11.04 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
Originally by: Agetec Core How to pronounce "TRIMARK"
Pronunciation: "I tank better than U"
Actually, I believe it's pronounced "it takes a couple more seconds to kill me as usual" _
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.11.04 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
Originally by: Agetec Core How to pronounce "TRIMARK"
Pronunciation: "I tank better than U"
Actually, I believe it's pronounced "it takes a couple more seconds to kill me as usual"
Only because your a Gankbear..
Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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insidion
Caldari Last of the Technocracy
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Posted - 2007.11.04 06:48:00 -
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English is a messed up language, but I'd say it's definitely 'try mark', much like the try in 'triangle'. It would be more like 'tree' (more like tre or trih really) if there was a consonant that was doubled after it, such as in 'tripple'. Of course, sometimes we steal words from other languages and yet keep the same rules of pronunciation as in the french origin word 'triage', or as you suggested the french/italian origin word 'trio'.
Gotta go with 'kwayfe' too. =)
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.04 06:49:00 -
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Adam Weishaupt
Minmatar Pyrrhus Sicarii The Church.
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Posted - 2007.11.04 06:57:00 -
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Interesting idea, but default in English is for 'i' to sound like, well, 'i', unlike most of the romance languages where it sounds like our long 'e'.
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pinklol
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Posted - 2007.11.04 06:59:00 -
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How does one of the most ******** languages on the Earth become the most dominant?
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.11.04 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: pinklol How does one of the most ******** languages on the Earth become the most dominant?
I say we all screw English and learn Finnish instead.
Because english is the only language that can easily adapt to describe new ideas and technics.. Try descibing something modern in Mandarin..
Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.11.04 07:15:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Because english is the only language that can easily adapt to describe new ideas and technics.. Try descibing something modern in Mandarin.
Pfft. The hell it is. English is a crude and inaccurate language, with a lot of confusing spelling rules, double entendres and so on and so forth.
It's also not even the most spoken language as number of speakers (and I'm NOT talking native speakers here), Chinese is the first one by far, with Hindi almost on par with English and Spanish a close fourth. Russian is sixth and French barely tenth spot. HOWEVER, you have two big things "going for" the English language... USA and its economic supremacy, and the FORMER colonialistic power of the UK. People learn to speak English because "important" people speak English, so they have to get a way to understand them and make themselves understood.
Even German is slightly better as English, and German is quite horrible too. But hey don't get me wrong... if it works, no matter how bad it is... well, it works. _
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.11.04 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T ...
Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.11.04 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Because english is the only language that can easily adapt to describe new ideas and technics.. Try descibing something modern in Mandarin.
Pfft. The hell it is. English is a crude and inaccurate language, with a lot of confusing spelling rules, double entendres and so on and so forth.
It's also not even the most spoken language as number of speakers (and I'm NOT talking native speakers here), Chinese is the first one by far, with Hindi almost on par with English and Spanish a close fourth. Russian is sixth and French barely tenth spot. HOWEVER, you have two big things "going for" the English language... USA and its economic supremacy, and the FORMER colonialistic power of the UK. People learn to speak English because "important" people speak English, so they have to get a way to understand them and make themselves understood.
Even German is slightly better as English, and German is quite horrible too. But hey don't get me wrong... if it works, no matter how bad it is... well, it works.
Wait, German? Are you serious? Where the methodology for making a new word is to mash together a half dozen already existant words? I'd put German and Chinese toward the bottom of the list for languages that need to be group friendly and which deal with new or unorthodox concepts.
English is a good international language simply because of its flexibility. Which is also its single greatest weakness.
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Haffrage
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.04 07:24:00 -
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ITT we whine that english is overpowered and must be nerfed.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.11.04 07:41:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 04/11/2007 07:41:57
Originally by: Amarria Black Wait, German? Are you serious? Where the methodology for making a new word is to mash together a half dozen already existant words? I'd put German and Chinese toward the bottom of the list for languages that need to be group friendly and which deal with new or unorthodox concepts.
Ah, yes, but that "together-mashing" you refer to has a pretty clear logic, and it's not quite mandatory to use that "style" I wouldn't bash German as a counter-point to English bashing if I was you though... the difference between German and English is minimal, TBFH, and I can't understand for the life of me how in hell English native speakers DON'T almost automatically understand German. I "thought" myself German (more or less accidentally) in 7th grade by simply watching German TV shows (there was not much else to watch on TV soon after the "Romanian Revolution", Romanian television was crap, I could never learn Hungarian, CableTV was brand new, and they used to have a SINGLE channel broadcasting subbed movies evenings, all day long before and after it was RTL then Pro7), while having just a basic knowledge of English.
Now, the "core" romance languages (Italian, French, Spanish and so on), now that's something else entirely And for how much I hate finno-hungric languages (I never could "get" them, too... "alien"), they have their merits too. _
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.11.04 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: Amarria Black Wait, German?
Indeed.. Ask the Eve German localization team how much fun they had..
Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.04 07:44:00 -
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Edited by: cal nereus on 04/11/2007 07:45:43 No more than three hundred years ago French was more widely spoken (at least among the learned peoples) than English. It's really a case of the English kicking ass in international politics, warfare, and the economy. That's why English is really popular now. ---
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.11.04 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: cal nereus Edited by: cal nereus on 04/11/2007 07:45:43 No more than three hundred years ago French was more widely spoken (at least among the learned peoples) than English. It's really a case of the English kicking ass in international politics, warfare, and the economy. That's why English is really popular now.
Meh.. People are riding on english atm because of Curious George W. Chimp and crew..
Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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Yerik Locke
Caldari The New Order. United Connection's
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Posted - 2007.11.04 07:47:00 -
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Edited by: Yerik Locke on 04/11/2007 07:53:37
Following basic English-reading rules, since no exceptions are implied, really:
Trimark -> TRY-mark Triage -> TREE-age [age probably pronounced like "ihj" or "ehj" or a mix, depending on where you're from]
Quafe -> kwayf
I can understand where the "KWAH-fee" thing might come from, maybe a play on coffee. But it's a soft drink probably more along the lines of the modern "energy drinks," not a more bitter, harsh liquid like coffee is. I don't really see the connection outside the fact that both of the two actually exist. [Quafe being in a virtual way]
Aside from that, the English language gives no reason to pronounce "quafe" as "kwah-fee" instead of "kwayf"
To me, "kwah-fee" sounds ridiculous, drawn out [not easy to say - bad marketing!] and Boston-accented [not that there's anything wrong with that.]
Though if CCP were to say it's pronounced "kwah-fee," I'd go with it.
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr Exercitus Solus
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Posted - 2007.11.04 07:48:00 -
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I usually pronounce "Trimark" as "Try-mark" however afaik it should be pronounced as "tri" (think the word "triangle") and then "mark" with a slight weight on the k so that it doesn't come out as "maar". -
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.11.04 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: cal nereus Edited by: cal nereus on 04/11/2007 07:45:57
No more than three hundred years ago French was more widely spoken (at least among the learned peoples) than English. It's really a case of the English kicking ass in international trade, politics, and warfare. That's why English is really popular now.
And the fact that English assimilates useful words easily. (And it's specifically better suited than French due to counting words. 99 = "four times twenty plus nineteen"... wtf?)
If a Mexican came up with a new dish and called it a "calcalo" (AFAIK, a meaningless word, but could be future perfect tense for "to calculate"), the Germans would call it a fifteen syllable word that means "deep fried flour tortilla filled with goat cheese and ground beef". What would English speaking people call it? A calcalo. ^_^
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.04 07:58:00 -
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Good point. I like my English. *hugs*
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Rooker
Lysian Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.11.04 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Agetec Core Also, the same guy said that Quafe is pronouced K-uaf. Whereas I say it sounds like Kua-fee.
This is becasue Quafee seems to be a pardoy of Coffee. Quafe. Coffee. Get it?
Did anybody else hear "JAFFA! KREE!" in their head when they read that, or was it just me? :(
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Laura Steel
The Chaotic Order Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.11.04 10:04:00 -
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I dont think there is a big need to pronounce the words perfectly, I kind of like hearing variation when talking to people. :)
Quafe - Kwayf to me ;) ----
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